Manchester Arena 'explosions': Two loud bangs heard at Ariana Grande gig as emergency services rush to scene

nicko wrote:Hundreds of ISIS terrorists were let back into our country, WHY?    The names and addresses of these scum are known to the Police.  ALL should be arrested and locked up even if it means special secure units should be built.  It's time there was a crack down on terrorist supporters in this country.  Tiptoeing around Muslims for fear of upsetting them is not working,   time for the "big stick" to be used.

eddie wrote:(My thanks to didge for keeping this thread updated last night)

I cannot express how awful this is and how it makes me feel to think of all those young lives wiped out and families ruined.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

nicko wrote:Hundreds of ISIS terrorists were let back into our country, WHY?    The names and addresses of these scum are known to the Police.  ALL should be arrested and locked up even if it means special secure units should be built.  It's time there was a crack down on terrorist supporters in this country.  Tiptoeing around Muslims for fear of upsetting them is not working,   time for the "big stick" to be used.

find a remote island and build a camp and ship supplies in every month, let them take care of themselves.

Lord Foul wrote:glad you find it all so frivolous Quill, doubtless you agree with that scottish prick

1. The taxi driver offering free taxi rides

2. Hotels offering shelter

3. Two homeless men rush to help the injured

4. Rabbi delivers coffees and pasties to police 

5. The emergency services caring for dozens of injured people

6. Sikh temples offering food and accommodation

7. Residents offering overnight accommodation

8. Offers of cups of tea

9. People donating blood

Queues began to form outside blood banks in Manchester on Tuesday morning, with residents eager to help the wounded in any way they could.
GiveBlood NHS posted a notice on social media informing people that they currently have enough blood required for hospital patients.
So many people were offering to help that GiveBlood NHS asked people not to just turn up at donation centres and instead to sign up as blood donors.

Thorin wrote:Heroic Mancunians are being praised for their acts of generosity following the attack at Manchester Arena on Monday night, which left at least 22 people killed and a further 59 injured, including children.
From free taxi rides to offers of cups of tea, residents came out in force to help those affected by the attack, which was carried out by a suicide bomber as crowds left an Ariana Grande concert.
Here are the stories of the true heroes of the Manchester terror attack:

1. The taxi driver offering free taxi rides

AJ Singh, a taxi driver in Manchester, said that he was trying to help out “everywhere I could”.
“I’ve had people who needed to find loved ones, I’ve dropped them off to the hospital, they’re not had any money, they’ve been stranded,” he told Channel 4 News.
“There’s no transport in Manchester, all the roads are closed, it’s really hard to get around.” 

2. Hotels offering shelter

Hotels near to the venue offered to take people in who were caught up in the attack.
The Premier Inn and Holiday Inn both took in concert-goers who had been separated from their groups.
According to unverified reports, a woman also led about 50 children to safety after they became separated from their parents or guardians.
Hotel chains near to the venue were contacted by HuffPost UK but denied the children were brought to them.

3. Two homeless men rush to help the injured

Chris Parker, 33, was in the foyer area of the venue, where he regularly goes to beg for money as crowds leave the arena when the blast hit.
He said he heard a “bang” and then saw a “white flash, then smoke”. He then heard people screaming.
“It knocked me to the floor and then I got up and instead of running away my gut instinct was to run back and try and help,” he told the Press Association.
“There was people lying on the floor everywhere.”
Parker tended to a little girl and a woman aged in her 60s.

Speaking of the woman, who was badly hurt from the bombing with serious leg and head injuries, he said: “She passed away in my arms. She was in her 60s and said she had been with her family.
“I haven’t stopped crying,” he said.
Stephen Jones, 35, was sleeping near the venue on Monday night when he heard a bang coming from the venue.

“I then realised what was happening and saw children coming out, screaming and covered in blood,” Jones told ITV News.

“We were having to pull nails and bits of glass out of their arms and faces,” he said. “We haven’t slept most of the night because of what we’ve seen.”

4. Rabbi delivers coffees and pasties to police 

Rabbi Shneur Cohen was filmed delivering refreshments to officers standing outside the Manchester arena on Tuesday morning.

5. The emergency services caring for dozens of injured people

Niall Dickson, chief executive of the NHS Confederation, which represents health service organisations in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, said: “Together with the other emergency services, frontline NHS responders, managers, and other staff have once again responded superbly to a major incident and are providing the treatment, care and support that is needed.

“It is at times like these that as a society we really appreciate how important the health service is in all our lives.“


The police are also being praised for their actions on Monday night, with this picture of a little girl being comforted by an officer being shared on social media.

6. Sikh temples offering food and accommodation

The details and locations of Sikh temples offering food and accommodation were shared on social media for people seeking safety.
.

7. Residents offering overnight accommodation

Scores of people asked people in need to contact them if they required somewhere to stay following the attack.

8. Offers of cups of tea

9. People donating blood

Queues began to form outside blood banks in Manchester on Tuesday morning, with residents eager to help the wounded in any way they could.
GiveBlood NHS posted a notice on social media informing people that they currently have enough blood required for hospital patients.
So many people were offering to help that GiveBlood NHS asked people not to just turn up at donation centres and instead to sign up as blood donors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/manchester-arena-attack-incredible-acts-of-kindness_uk_5923ec72e4b03b485cb48aaf?xdk&utm_hp_ref=uk

eddie wrote:Someone who lives in Manchester posted this on a social media site:

"This is a co-incidence .  Not long before 9-0 pm this evening  I was outside near Salford quays and a large bang went off and it was followed by that noise when fireworks spray out sparks, followed by another bang shortly afterwards. also a Helicopter has been flying over this part of Manchester all afternoon."


The bomb didn't go off till 10:30pm.

Thorin wrote:Heroic Mancunians are being praised for their acts of generosity following the attack at Manchester Arena on Monday night, which left at least 22 people killed and a further 59 injured, including children.
From free taxi rides to offers of cups of tea, residents came out in force to help those affected by the attack, which was carried out by a suicide bomber as crowds left an Ariana Grande concert.
Here are the stories of the true heroes of the Manchester terror attack:

1. The taxi driver offering free taxi rides

AJ Singh, a taxi driver in Manchester, said that he was trying to help out “everywhere I could”.
“I’ve had people who needed to find loved ones, I’ve dropped them off to the hospital, they’re not had any money, they’ve been stranded,” he told Channel 4 News.
“There’s no transport in Manchester, all the roads are closed, it’s really hard to get around.” 

2. Hotels offering shelter

Hotels near to the venue offered to take people in who were caught up in the attack.
The Premier Inn and Holiday Inn both took in concert-goers who had been separated from their groups.
According to unverified reports, a woman also led about 50 children to safety after they became separated from their parents or guardians.
Hotel chains near to the venue were contacted by HuffPost UK but denied the children were brought to them.

3. Two homeless men rush to help the injured

Chris Parker, 33, was in the foyer area of the venue, where he regularly goes to beg for money as crowds leave the arena when the blast hit.
He said he heard a “bang” and then saw a “white flash, then smoke”. He then heard people screaming.
“It knocked me to the floor and then I got up and instead of running away my gut instinct was to run back and try and help,” he told the Press Association.
“There was people lying on the floor everywhere.”
Parker tended to a little girl and a woman aged in her 60s.

Speaking of the woman, who was badly hurt from the bombing with serious leg and head injuries, he said: “She passed away in my arms. She was in her 60s and said she had been with her family.
“I haven’t stopped crying,” he said.
Stephen Jones, 35, was sleeping near the venue on Monday night when he heard a bang coming from the venue.

“I then realised what was happening and saw children coming out, screaming and covered in blood,” Jones told ITV News.

“We were having to pull nails and bits of glass out of their arms and faces,” he said. “We haven’t slept most of the night because of what we’ve seen.”

4. Rabbi delivers coffees and pasties to police 

Rabbi Shneur Cohen was filmed delivering refreshments to officers standing outside the Manchester arena on Tuesday morning.

5. The emergency services caring for dozens of injured people

Niall Dickson, chief executive of the NHS Confederation, which represents health service organisations in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, said: “Together with the other emergency services, frontline NHS responders, managers, and other staff have once again responded superbly to a major incident and are providing the treatment, care and support that is needed.

“It is at times like these that as a society we really appreciate how important the health service is in all our lives.“


The police are also being praised for their actions on Monday night, with this picture of a little girl being comforted by an officer being shared on social media.

6. Sikh temples offering food and accommodation

The details and locations of Sikh temples offering food and accommodation were shared on social media for people seeking safety.
.

7. Residents offering overnight accommodation

Scores of people asked people in need to contact them if they required somewhere to stay following the attack.

8. Offers of cups of tea

9. People donating blood

Queues began to form outside blood banks in Manchester on Tuesday morning, with residents eager to help the wounded in any way they could.
GiveBlood NHS posted a notice on social media informing people that they currently have enough blood required for hospital patients.
So many people were offering to help that GiveBlood NHS asked people not to just turn up at donation centres and instead to sign up as blood donors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/manchester-arena-attack-incredible-acts-of-kindness_uk_5923ec72e4b03b485cb48aaf?xdk&utm_hp_ref=uk

Syl wrote:Social media have been brilliant according to the people who still haven't found their loved ones who attended the concert.

I cant begin to understand how desperate these parents and family members must be who still don't know whether their kids are alive or dead.

http://news.sky.com/story/manchester-arena-attack-search-for-missing-concertgoers-10889739

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Syl wrote:Social media have been brilliant according to the people who still haven't found their loved ones who attended the concert.

I cant begin to understand how desperate these parents and family members must be who still don't know whether their kids are alive or dead.

http://news.sky.com/story/manchester-arena-attack-search-for-missing-concertgoers-10889739

I find it rather strange that photos of 25 kids have been posted as missing.
Surely they are either in hospital or the morgue and parents would be able to find out which, unless something more sinister has happened to them.

Miffs2 wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
I find it rather strange that photos of 25 kids have been posted as missing.
Surely they are either in hospital or the morgue and parents would be able to find out which, unless something more sinister has happened to them.

What has happened to them is those close to the blast will have been all but vaporised they will be trying to find enough 'material' to identify a person.

Miffs2 wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
I find it rather strange that photos of 25 kids have been posted as missing.
Surely they are either in hospital or the morgue and parents would be able to find out which, unless something more sinister has happened to them.

What has happened to them is those close to the blast will have been all but vaporised they will be trying to find enough 'material' to identify a person.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Syl wrote:Social media have been brilliant according to the people who still haven't found their loved ones who attended the concert.

I cant begin to understand how desperate these parents and family members must be who still don't know whether their kids are alive or dead.

http://news.sky.com/story/manchester-arena-attack-search-for-missing-concertgoers-10889739

I find it rather strange that photos of 25 kids have been posted as missing.
Surely they are either in hospital or the morgue and parents would be able to find out which, unless something more sinister has happened to them.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Miffs2 wrote:

What has happened to them is those close to the blast will have been all but vaporised they will be trying to find enough 'material' to identify a person.

not likely, they may have been dismembered but not vaporised. the reason so few were killed considering how crowded it was, is bodies tend to dampen down explosions.

Thorin wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
not likely, they may have been dismembered but not vaporised. the reason so few were killed considering how crowded it was, is bodies tend to dampen down explosions.

Not correct, as such a blast would create a massive shockwave within your body killing many. The reason there is less dead, is because the vast majority were still inside the stadium. As the concert had not finished.

Those dead will certainly be disfigured and it will be more ensuring they can confirm they know who is dead.

best not follow this link if you have a fragile nature:

Syl wrote:Theresa May has raised the threat level from severe to critical.
Expect to see armed soldiers on our streets as from tomorrow.

Syl wrote:Theresa May has raised the threat level from severe to critical.
Expect to see armed soldiers on our streets as from tomorrow.

eddie wrote:One of my male friends trained in the police force (illness stopped his career). He said when you train in these things you are taught to "colour code" body parts...like all white shirts go in one pile, red shirts in another, denim in another etc.  

And then they piece parts together.

Awful job.

Thorin wrote:

Syl wrote:Theresa May has raised the threat level from severe to critical.
Expect to see armed soldiers on our streets as from tomorrow.

I very much doubt it Syl

And to do so is playing into the very fear that the terrorists want.

There will certainly be more of an armed presence of Police, but in no way the armed forces.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Thorin wrote:


I very much doubt it Syl

And to do so is playing into the very fear that the terrorists want.

There will certainly be more of an armed presence of Police, but in no way the armed forces.

its called operation temperer.

the threat level has been raised to the highest meaning an imminent threat of attack

Miffs2 wrote:

Syl wrote:Theresa May has raised the threat level from severe to critical.
Expect to see armed soldiers on our streets as from tomorrow.

That means imminent threat.

The Devil, You Know wrote:CNN are now just fake news


http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/05/23/move-over-infowars-here-comes-cnn-analyst-blames-manchesterbombing-on-right-wing-false-flag/

Thorin wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
its called operation temperer.

the threat level has been raised to the highest meaning an imminent threat of attack

Yes I am very aware of the threat levels

Again you will see more armed Police and there will be armed forces, but you wont see them.

Thorin wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:CNN are now just fake news


http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/05/23/move-over-infowars-here-comes-cnn-analyst-blames-manchesterbombing-on-right-wing-false-flag/

Original Quill wrote:Dino?  I wasn't aware he was scottish
idiot

I'm looking at this like the San Bernardino massacre.  In the wake of that tragedy Raggs and I tried to sort things out, but we didn't turn it into a domestic political rouser.

I think before we turn this tragedy into just another political advertisement, we ought to pay homage to the 22 dead, and 59 injured...so far.  They deserve some of our thoughts and prayers.

Thorin wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:CNN are now just fake news


http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/05/23/move-over-infowars-here-comes-cnn-analyst-blames-manchesterbombing-on-right-wing-false-flag/

Lord Foul wrote:well, first you change the Law

to make such a crime
with sufficiently draconian punishments

then....You round em up

alternatively you could change the law

to remove THEIR protection in law (kinda like make them "outlaws", with every mans hand against them)

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Thorin wrote:

Firstly, some of the Islamophobic attacks are real.

And one could right a script about how the extreme right wing react. Groups behind Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins are already calling for a final solution.

Truth is: this is all part of the grieving process. And when we feel powerless, we look at who to blame and what someone else could have done. Then most of us eventually reach acceptance and carry with our lives. That's the real script.