Melania wins damages from paper who called her a prostitute.

by Syl Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:50 pm

Good for her.

The UK's Daily Mail newspaper has agreed to pay damages and costs to the first lady of the United States over an article about her modelling career.
The newspaper had reported allegations that Melania Trump once worked as an escort, but later retracted the claims.
The story was published during the US election campaign last year.
Mrs Trump accepted damages and an apology from the newspaper at London's High Court.
The article was published by the Daily Mail newspaper, and subsequently the paper's digital operation Mail Online.
Mrs Trump filed a lawsuit against the Daily Mail in the UK, and filed against Mail Online in the US.
The payout settles the case both in New York and the UK, despite London's High Court having no jurisdiction in the US.
The US suit, filed last year, sought damages of $150m (£120m). The amount accepted by Mrs Trump in London was not disclosed in court.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39575680

by Andy Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:13 pm

The Mail is the British equivalent to Fox News.
Lies, scandal, buxom beauties in skimpy bikinis and more recently, smear campaigns , mainly against left wing supporters who usually sue and usually win.
I thought they leatned their lesson from Katie Flopkins fuck up last year, but they never learn.
Their lastest fad is to stalk young female celeb girls in skimpy swimwear to catch a glimpse of washboard abs, pert boobs and peachy posteriors.
And these girls are usually under 16.
Says a lot about Paul Dacre.

Is he a pervert?

by Syl Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:16 pm

Posting pics of underage girls to titillate readers must surely be against the law.
Which underage girls has he published pics of?

by Andy Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:20 pm

Kaia Gerber. They have a team that appear to be stalking her.
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and
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and

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by Original Quill Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:30 pm

The significant point in this story is:

BBC wrote:The US suit, filed last year, sought damages of $150m (£120m). The amount accepted by Mrs Trump in London was not disclosed in court.

The Trumps have mastered the art of going in with a rumble, but going out with a whimper.

by Syl Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:36 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Kaia Gerber. They have a team that appear to be stalking her.
[size=39]http://dailym.ai/2o8rB5i[/size]

and
http://dailym.ai/2oM0BKv

and

http://dailym.ai/2oGZ1GA

I agree, its weird and smacks of perversion for a paper to follow a young girl around whilst she is on holiday wearing bikinis.
I have never heard of this girl, she is the image of her mum and very pretty....no need to exploit her though, its bad.

After they had smeared Melania Trump I believe some American publications also published the story.
Quill repeated similar on here.....God knows how many others did on different sites and forums.
A womans reputation, especially a woman in such a public position is important.

by Syl Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:38 pm

Original Quill wrote:The significant point in this story is:

BBC wrote:The US suit, filed last year, sought damages of $150m (£120m). The amount accepted by Mrs Trump in London was not disclosed in court.

The Trumps have mastered the art of going in with a rumble, but going out with a whimper.

I think its the Daily Mail who are doing the whimpering at the moment. Laughing

by Original Quill Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:48 pm

Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:The significant point in this story is:

The Trumps have mastered the art of going in with a rumble, but going out with a whimper.

I think its the Daily Mail who are doing the whimpering at the moment.

Not if they settled for pennies on the dollar. As I say, the Trumps are all noise going into a fight, but they usually end up going quiet. They're showmen...get the audience going in, don't tell how much it cost on the back side.

by Syl Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:53 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:

I think its the Daily Mail who are doing the whimpering at the moment.

Not is they settled for pennies on the dollar. As I say, the Trumps are all noise going into a fight, but they usually end up whining. They're showmen...get the audience going in, don't tell how much they lost on the back side.

Well you would say that Quill because we had a couple of conversations about this in the past when you yourself have implied she was a prostitute. You also said that they would not sue, and if she did it would amount to nothing anyway.

The money isn't important....its the principle, the paper have apologised, paid out, and more importantly its all over the news and internet that they lied about her, which must be the most satisfying thing from her perspective.

I would say that's a job well done. cheers

by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:14 pm

It should be noted that the Daily Mail never actually called her a prostitute, of course.

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:06 am

Ben Reilly wrote:It should be noted that the Daily Mail never actually called her a prostitute, of course.

As good as...they speculated about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3769798/Melania-Trump-retraction.html

"The article discussed whether allegations being made about Melania Trump could negatively affect her husband Donald Trump's presidential bid. Among other things, the article noted that allegations have been made in a book available on Amazon about a modeling agency where Mrs. Trump worked in Milan being 'something like a gentleman's club,' and an article published by Suzy, a Slovenian magazine, alleged that Mrs. Trump's modeling agency in New York, run by Paolo Zampolli, 'operated as an escort agency for wealthy clients.'

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:44 am

Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Not is they settled for pennies on the dollar. As I say, the Trumps are all noise going into a fight, but they usually end up whining. They're showmen...get the audience going in, don't tell how much they lost on the back side.

Well you would say that Quill because we had a couple of conversations about this in the past when you yourself have implied she was a prostitute. You also said that they would not sue, and if she did it would amount to nothing anyway.

The money isn't important....its the principle, the paper have apologised, paid out, and more importantly its all over the news and internet that they lied about her, which must be the most satisfying thing from her perspective.

I would say that's a job well done.

You're writing a script. Forget the script and focus on the logical pattern. How did Trump get out of the Trump University lawsuit? He paid out $25-million, right? Trump has a history of threatening and filing lawsuits to make a big huff'n puff up front, and then he tucks tail and runs. Remember, in a lawsuit you can subpoena things, and relevance is not a valid objection. They probably got a subpoena duces tecum for Trump's tax returns for the past 10-years.

This is the cut and run phase in Melania's lawsuit. That's why they have put a non-disclosure clause in the settlement. If she won big she would be singing it from the hills.

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:01 am

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:

Well you would say that Quill because we had a couple of conversations about this in the past when you yourself have implied she was a prostitute. You also said that they would not sue, and if she did it would amount to nothing anyway.

The money isn't important....its the principle, the paper have apologised, paid out, and more importantly its all over the news and internet that they lied about her, which must be the most satisfying thing from her perspective.

I would say that's a job well done.

You're writing a script. Forget the script and focus on the logical pattern. How did Trump get out of the Trump University lawsuit? He paid out $25-million, right? Trump has a history of threatening and filing lawsuits to make a big huff'n puff up front, and then he tucks tail and runs. Remember, in a lawsuit you can subpoena things, and relevance is not a valid objection. They probably got a subpoena duces tecum for Trump's tax returns for the past 10-years.

This is the cut and run phase in Melania's lawsuit. That's why they have put a non-disclosure clause in the settlement. If she won big she would be singing it from the hills.

You are trying to deflect.
The story here is Melania's lawsuit nothing to do with any her husband may have brought in the past.
You specifically said she would not sue because she would not win, public figures like here never did.

I doubt the money is important here, her reputation is though....and in winning she has proved the paper was wrong in implying she ever worked in the sex trade.

The sum is publicly unknown but it doesn't sound like a pittance.

"And so the mighty Mail titles have been Trumped.

Well, almost. There are people in the legal profession flabbergasted at the size of the damages that Melania Trump has received from Associated Newspapers."

You had better be careful Quill...this is an open forum, you have said that and worse about her in the past....she might come after you next. Twisted Evil

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:19 am

Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You're writing a script. Forget the script and focus on the logical pattern. How did Trump get out of the Trump University lawsuit? He paid out $25-million, right? Trump has a history of threatening and filing lawsuits to make a big huff'n puff up front, and then he tucks tail and runs. Remember, in a lawsuit you can subpoena things, and relevance is not a valid objection. They probably got a subpoena duces tecum for Trump's tax returns for the past 10-years.

This is the cut and run phase in Melania's lawsuit. That's why they have put a non-disclosure clause in the settlement. If she won big she would be singing it from the hills.

You are trying to deflect.

To the contrary, I am trying to bring things back into realistic fact.

Syl wrote:The story here is Melania's lawsuit nothing to do with any her husband may have brought in the past.
You specifically said she would not sue because she would not win, public figures like here never did.

If she has possession or any rightful claim to the returns--did they file separately(?)--they can subpoena the tax returns. The point is, this is a bad time to be playing with lawsuits, as subpoenas are far-reaching.

Syl wrote:I doubt the money is important here, her reputation is though....and in winning she has proved the paper was wrong in implying she ever worked in the sex trade.

The sum is publicly unknown but it doesn't sound like a pittance.

How would you know?

Syl wrote:"And so the mighty Mail titles have been Trumped.

Well, almost. There are people in the legal profession flabbergasted at the size of the damages that Melania Trump has received from Associated Newspapers."

I don't think so. If any one knows, someone broke the covenant and the agreement is void.

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:32 am

You find it hard to admit you were wrong don't you Quill? Razz

Night night.

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:58 am

Syl wrote:You find it hard to admit you were wrong don't you Quill?

Night night.

Me? Wrong? Perish the thought.

She's got a confidentiality clause. Normally plaintiffs want all the publicity they can get, especially when it involves a character issue like prostitution.

So why does she want to keep it quiet? Could it be that it was a 'cost of litigation' settlement?

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:24 pm

Figures are already being leaked, between 2 and 3 million.....might be a pittance to them not to most people.

The important thing is she did what she set out to do...clear her reputation.
Well done her.

by Andy Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:57 pm

And the Daily Fail enhanced it's reputation as a lying, smear mongering scandal rag.
And if anyone forgot, it supported the Nazis 80 years ago and is still alt-right.

by 'Wolfie Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:39 pm

On tonight's news over here, they reported the payoit to be $3 million,...

Sounds like somebody over there is leaking the information ?

by nicko Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:17 pm

Why is it that a Woman who works as an "escort" is automaticly labelled as a Prostitute? Some actually do "escort" men to Dinners, shows,ect to show off as "partners".

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:22 pm

nicko wrote:Why is it that a Woman who works as an "escort" is automaticly labelled as a Prostitute? Some actually do "escort" men to Dinners, shows,ect to show off as "partners".

Yeah...riiiiiight. Big market for that. melania - Melania wins damages from paper who called her a prostitute. 2794048296

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:24 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

On tonight's news over here, they reported the payoit to be $3 million,...

Sounds like somebody over there is leaking the information ?

$3-million? Chump change...if that's the case.

Hulk Hogan got $140-million for invasion of privacy. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/judge-upholds-hulk-hogans-140-897301

Erin Andrews got $55-million for her reputation lawsuit. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/03/07/erin-andrews-awarded-55-million-in-peephole-case/?utm_term=.ae13ea2dc903

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:15 pm

nicko wrote:Why is it that a Woman who works as an "escort" is automaticly labelled as a Prostitute? Some actually do "escort" men to Dinners, shows,ect to show off as "partners".

Yes that's true Nicko, but there were more slurs against her, they used to word 'escort' slipped in comments like in her racy past had she worked in the Sex industry what they really meant was she had been a prostitute.

" In its apology the Daily Mail acknowledged it had published "allegations that she provided services beyond simply modelling".

by eddie Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:17 pm

Have you ever noticed that certain men always resort to calling women by those kind of names?
I've been called those kind of names a few times on forums.

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:28 pm

eddie wrote:Have you ever noticed that certain men always resort to calling women by those kind of names?
I've been called those kind of names a few times on forums.

Me too Eddie.

It really annoyed me when Melania was referred to as a prostitute/hooker/escort wink wink on here. Its like someone reads something in a low life paper or magazine, and feels they have the right to repeat it as fact, when they must know there was no basis for this in the first place.

It is the same mentality some use on forums....someone called so and so a slapper or a liar, therefore I will too....sad.

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:58 pm

Syl wrote:
eddie wrote:Have you ever noticed that certain men always resort to calling women by those kind of names?
I've been called those kind of names a few times on forums.

Me too Eddie.

It really annoyed me when Melania was referred to as a prostitute/hooker/escort wink wink on here. Its like someone reads something in a low life paper or magazine, and feels they have the right to repeat it as fact, when they must know there was no basis for this in the first place.

It is the same mentality some use on forums....someone called so and so a slapper or a liar, therefore I will too....sad.

You gotta toughen up, lady. This is a debate forum. Politics and political figures are an important part of the substance here. All opinions are fair game, as are swear words and harsh language.

We've got a leader of the strongest power on earth who grabs female genitalia for kicks. Do you wanna pretend that is not going on? He also gives strong indications that he is in bed with the Russian mafia. He supposedly takes urine-showers in Moscow.

If you thought Hitler was a maniac, welcome to the really big time.

by eddie Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:02 pm

I don't think anyone is doubting that Trump is a hideous human being, Quill, it's the fact that everyone is prepared to believe something horrid about someone they don't like.
If the same had been said of Michelle Obama, in the same position - you would never have even entertained it.

by Ben Reilly Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:04 pm

Syl wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:It should be noted that the Daily Mail never actually called her a prostitute, of course.

As good as...they speculated about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3769798/Melania-Trump-retraction.html

"The article discussed whether allegations being made about Melania Trump could negatively affect her husband Donald Trump's presidential bid. Among other things, the article noted that allegations have been made in a book available on Amazon about a modeling agency where Mrs. Trump worked in Milan being 'something like a gentleman's club,' and an article published by Suzy, a Slovenian magazine, alleged that Mrs. Trump's modeling agency in New York, run by Paolo Zampolli, 'operated as an escort agency for wealthy clients.'

The fact that they acknowledged the allegations exist didn't magick the allegations into being -- they were already out there, already with the potential to negatively affect her and her husband. At most, the reporting made more people aware of the issue -- which is the whole point of reporting the news, by the way.

by Ben Reilly Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:04 pm

eddie wrote:I don't think anyone is doubting that Trump is a hideous human being, Quill, it's the fact that everyone is prepared to believe something horrid about someone they don't like.
If the same had been said of Michelle Obama, in the same position - you would never have even entertained it.

I would have responded to that claim the same way I responded to the claim about Melania, which is to start by asking for the evidence of it.

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:09 pm

eddie wrote:I don't think anyone is doubting that Trump is a hideous human being, Quill, it's the fact that everyone is prepared to believe something horrid about someone they don't like.
If the same had been said of Michelle Obama, in the same position - you would never have even entertained it.

That's why we have investigations....to find out the truth. But where there's smoke, there's fire...and there's really heavy smoke going on here.

And don't give me that, innocent until proven guilty routine. I know you don't believe that.

This is much bigger than whether an arson suspect is guilty. This the strongest, most influential power on earth. This is politics. Melania is up to her eyeballs in it. Even if we err over the details, we are erring on the side of caution. It's better than WW III.

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:12 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:

Me too Eddie.

It really annoyed me when Melania was referred to as a prostitute/hooker/escort wink wink on here. Its like someone reads something in a low life paper or magazine, and feels they have the right to repeat it as fact, when they must know there was no basis for this in the first place.

It is the same mentality some use on forums....someone called so and so a slapper or a liar, therefore I will too....sad.

You gotta toughen up, lady. This is a debate forum. Politics and political figures are an important part of the substance here. All opinions are fair game, as are swear words and harsh language.

We've got a leader of the strongest power on earth who grabs female genitalia for kicks. Do you wanna pretend that is not going on? He also gives strong indications that he is in bed with the Russian mafia. He supposedly takes urine-showers in Moscow.

If you thought Hitler was a maniac, welcome to the really big time.

Its not a matter of toughening up is it.
Of course its a debate forum...and debating stuff is great. Actually saying someone is something they are not, just because you have read it in some third rate rag is hardly debate. That's simple being a sheep...baaaaing to order.

melania - Melania wins damages from paper who called her a prostitute. Happy-sheep-smiley-emoticon

By the way...its her husband who is the offensive fanny grabber not her. Its a bit cowardly venting your spleen on a woman who just happens to be married to the despot.

by eddie Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:14 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:I don't think anyone is doubting that Trump is a hideous human being, Quill, it's the fact that everyone is prepared to believe something horrid about someone they don't like.
If the same had been said of Michelle Obama, in the same position - you would never have even entertained it.

I would have responded to that claim the same way I responded to the claim about Melania, which is to start by asking for the evidence of it.

Well you might, but Quill is convinced Trump is on cocoaine because he occasionally sniffs on a YouTube clip.
I am not in favour of battering Melania Trump simply because she's married to the wanker she's married to, she's not really done anything wrong.

And I don't feel one way or the other about her for the record.

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:15 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Syl wrote:

As good as...they speculated about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3769798/Melania-Trump-retraction.html

"The article discussed whether allegations being made about Melania Trump could negatively affect her husband Donald Trump's presidential bid. Among other things, the article noted that allegations have been made in a book available on Amazon about a modeling agency where Mrs. Trump worked in Milan being 'something like a gentleman's club,' and an article published by Suzy, a Slovenian magazine, alleged that Mrs. Trump's modeling agency in New York, run by Paolo Zampolli, 'operated as an escort agency for wealthy clients.'

The fact that they acknowledged the allegations exist didn't magick the allegations into being -- they were already out there, already with the potential to negatively affect her and her husband. At most, the reporting made more people aware of the issue -- which is the whole point of reporting the news, by the way.

They acknowledged the allegations made from unreliable source, along with damning headline and nude pics of her I believe.
I think they thought they were being smart in the way they reported the story, sort of saying it all under the guise of they wasn't really.
Not that smart though....as the outcome has proven.

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:17 pm

eddie wrote:I don't think anyone is doubting that Trump is a hideous human being, Quill, it's the fact that everyone is prepared to believe something horrid about someone they don't like.
If the same had been said of Michelle Obama, in the same position - you would never have even entertained it.

Good point. When you said Michelle Obama looked like a man (something like that) people piled in to her defence (I was one of them) I bet Quill was too.
Melania it seems is not so protected.

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:23 pm

eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

I would have responded to that claim the same way I responded to the claim about Melania, which is to start by asking for the evidence of it.

Well you might, but Quill is convinced Trump is on cocoaine because he occasionally sniffs on a YouTube clip.

With substantial probable cause regarding the cocaine, I'm proud to say. I've made that case elsewhere, and the evidence is overwhelming. Look...you go to the Grand Jury with what you have. You put it out there, and let them judge. I'm a prosecutor...I make a case, I don't have the ultimate decision.

eddie wrote:I am not in favour of battering Melania Trump simply because she's married to the wanker she's married to, she's not really done anything wrong.

And I don't feel one way or the other about her for the record.

She sleeps on silk sheets, in three different mansions. She is carted around by an Air Force and the Marines, in the plushest aircraft available. She gets to dine those expensive meals, all on the government dole. That's MY money, there.

You're a conservative...isn't it my right to fire her ass if I want to fire her ass? Same with her husband, his daughter, son-in-law, and two other sons...fire their asses if I don't like the job they are doing.

by eddie Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:26 pm

Sorry Quill but you calling me a conservative because you feel like an arse makes you look like a bigger arse.

I've never voted conservative - now you're thrice an arse.

And for the record? With your supposed money and education and what you do for a living....you're far more in the conservative world than me.

You conservative arse melania - Melania wins damages from paper who called her a prostitute. 3489511464

melania - Melania wins damages from paper who called her a prostitute. 3489511464

by eddie Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:27 pm

You also sound a tad jealous of her silk sheets.
Sulky, Silky arse. Razz

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:30 pm

So Quill.....just say you are a highly paid lawyer working for the government, or even a bin man being paid from the local council.......if you did your job badly would people be entitled to call your wife a useless slapper?

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:33 pm

eddie wrote:You also sound a tad jealous of her silk sheets.
Sulky, Silky arse.

That's a nice gentle insult...I laughed, have a thanks. Razz

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:42 pm

eddie wrote:Sorry Quill but you calling me a conservative because you feel like an arse makes you look like a bigger arse.

You're just being belligerent because I'm winning.

eddie wrote:I've never voted conservative - now you're thrice an arse.

And for the record? With your supposed money and education and what you do for a living....you're far more in the conservative world than me.

You conservative arse

"Thrice an arse?" My money? My education? My profession?

Eddie, you are engaging in hate speech. You are attacking my status, and not the topic of this thread. Hate speech is in violation of the rules of this site. Please refrain.

You are a conservative in your tendencies. You don't believe in innocent until proven guilty. You don't believe in trials. You pick and choose who is a victim and who is a villain. It's fair for me to point out the leanings you, yourself, have admitted to.

Now let's get back to the topic...you were defending rich bitches and mafia government leaders, I believe.

by eddie Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:52 pm

You last sentence speaks for itself. You're upset and allowing your anger to cloud your judgment. You know, you warn us all about that!

You're also being silly because you're claming things I never said and you must know this, as a lawyer, I simply can't debate with you if you claim things I've never said?

So I'll wait for you to cool off.

by Original Quill Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:54 pm

eddie wrote:You last sentence speaks for itself. You're upset and allowing your anger to cloud your judgment. You know, you warn us all about that!

You're also being silly because you're claming things I never said and you must know this, as a lawyer, I simply can't debate with you if you claim things I've never said?

So I'll wait for you to cool off.

My last sentence? You don't want to get back on topic? Well, if you abandon the topic, I guess you are admitting my point.

I'll move on.

by eddie Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:56 pm

Yeah good idea. Move on.

by Syl Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:57 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Sorry Quill but you calling me a conservative because you feel like an arse makes you look like a bigger arse.

You're just being belligerent because I'm winning.

eddie wrote:I've never voted conservative - now you're thrice an arse.

And for the record? With your supposed money and education and what you do for a living....you're far more in the conservative world than me.

You conservative arse

"Thrice an arse?" My money? My education? My profession?

Eddie, you are engaging in hate speech. You are attacking my status, and not the topic of this thread. Hate speech is in violation of the rules of this site. Please refrain.

You are a conservative in your tendencies. You don't believe in ]innocent until proven guilty

Oh the irony of that remark.

You don't believe in trials. You pick and choose who is a victim and who is a villain.

And again.

It's fair for me to point out the leanings you, yourself, have admitted to.

Now let's get back to the topic...you were defending rich bitches

You cant help yourself can you?

and mafia government leaders, I believe.

by nicko Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:01 pm

I like Melanie ,On the game or not,I don't give a shit. I buy the Mail every Sunday, it has some very good articles and stories, those who don't like it, don't buy it , read the Mirror [spit] instead !

by Syl Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:36 pm

nicko wrote: I like Melanie ,On the game or not,I don't give a shit. I buy the Mail every Sunday, it has some very good articles and stories, those who don't like it, don't buy it , read the Mirror [spit] instead !

This is an old thread Nicko, the Mail wrongly accused her of being a high class prostitute, they were wrong, she sued, she won, they forked out millions in compensation....it all happened years ago.

by Original Quill Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:38 pm

nicko wrote: I like Melanie ,On the game or not,I don't give a shit. I buy the Mail every Sunday, it has some very good articles and stories, those who don't like it, don't buy it , read the Mirror [spit] instead !

Don't know much about papers over there, but I like Melania, too. I meant what I said about her quiet determination. She is incredibly skillful, and keeps to herself about it.

by Original Quill Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:46 pm

Syl, the references (marked in red) in the old post, are to an old conservative ethos. Conservatives make snap judgments, based upon tribal instincts.

Conservatives are law & order devotees--except Trump, but is he a conservative?--and don't like the fuss over the niceties over due process of law...namely presumptions, norms and evidence. They view it as pc.

That's what that discussion was about. Again, it is off-topic about the Melania/Trump strained relations...which isn't to criticize, only to say it does not go to what you want to show.

by Maddog Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:26 pm

Syl wrote:You find it hard to admit you were wrong don't you Quill?

Night night.

He's pathological in his inability to do so.

by Tommy Monk Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:46 pm

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and
http://dailym.ai/2oM0BKv

and

http://dailym.ai/2oGZ1GA

You seem to know a lot about this, hand shandy...

I wonder why...?

lol!

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