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'Hail Trump!': White Nationalists Salute the President Elect

Video of an alt-right conference in Washington, D.C., where Trump’s victory was met with cheers and Nazi salutes.

“Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!”
That’s how Richard B. Spencer saluted more than 200 attendees on Saturday, gathered at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C., for the annual conference of the National Policy Institute, which describes itself as “an independent organization dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of  people of European descent in the United States, and around the world.”
Spencer has popularized the term “alt-right” to describe the movement he leads. Spencer has said his dream is “a new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans,” and has called for “peaceful ethnic cleansing.”
For most of the day, a parade of speakers discussed their ideology in relatively anodyne terms, putting a presentable face on their agenda. But after dinner, when most journalists had already departed, Spencer rose and delivered a speech to his followers dripping with anti-Semitism, and leaving no doubt as to what he actually seeks. He referred to the mainstream media as “Lügenpresse,” a term he said he was borrowing from “the original German”; the Nazis used the word to attack their critics in the press.
“America was until this past generation a white country designed for ourselves and our posterity,” Spencer said. “It is our creation, it is our inheritance, and it belongs to us.”   
The audience offered cheers, applause, and enthusiastic Nazi salutes.
Here is the video, excerpted from an Atlantic documentary profile of Spencer that will premiere in December 2016.



https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/



The most revolting people in the world and now in power in the USA, the scum of the earth are doing their best to take over and people are closing their eyes to it.

Bumped for Scrat

sassy wrote:Bumped for Scrat

Its scary times ahead if any of these shitheads are at the levers of power, America could become the bedrock of anarchy and that anarchy will go global, America could back itself into a corner where the only way out would be a count down to thermonuclear warfare.

I'm hopeful their democracy can sort it out, but there's so much mistrust.

If the American people voted him in, then what did they expect!, he hardly hid what he is.

Unfortunately Scrat, I think for a large number that voted for him, that is exactly why they did.   Which bodes ill for the future.

Hail Trump
Trump rocks
Wish we had someone with guts to save our island from ammageddon.

Well, I think you have just proved beyond doubt that you are a Nazi scum and should be locked up.

sassy wrote:Well, I think you have just proved beyond doubt that you are a Nazi scum and should be locked up.

Why anyone who proclaims a love of Britain would identify with foreigners raising Hitler salutes is utterly beyond comprehension.

Trump will pay dividends for America and all those brave Americans who voted for him, then we will follow his example and sort our own mess out regarding clandestine invaders who wish us harm and scrounge that which belongs to OUR children and OUR old folks.

Ziz wrote:

sassy wrote:Well, I think you have just proved beyond doubt that you are a Nazi scum and should be locked up.

Why anyone who proclaims a love of Britain would identify with foreigners raising Hitler salutes is utterly beyond comprehension.  

When I think about how my Dad, who I now look after, flew hurricanes in the last war to get rid of scum like that, it makes me sick to my stomach.

Ziz wrote:

sassy wrote:Well, I think you have just proved beyond doubt that you are a Nazi scum and should be locked up.

Why anyone who proclaims a love of Britain would identify with foreigners raising Hitler salutes is utterly beyond comprehension.  

Itz what he does, and he would rather sell his country out to foreign nazi dictators, than stand up like a man for the values our grandparents fought for, losing many lives, battling it out with dark forces in our defence.

We must out these far right extremists for what they are, Nazi traitors, and they should be treated as such.

scrat wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Why anyone who proclaims a love of Britain would identify with foreigners raising Hitler salutes is utterly beyond comprehension.  

Itz what he does, and he would rather sell his country out to foreign nazi dictators, than stand up like a man for the values our grandparents fought for, losing many lives, battling it out with dark forces in our defence.

We must out these far right extremists for what they are, Nazi traitors, and they should be treated as such.

You and the likes of you are the TRAITORS to my island by getting into bed with mohammad and terrorist invaders.

Major wrote:

scrat wrote:
Itz what he does, and he would rather sell his country out to foreign nazi dictators, than stand up like a man for the values our grandparents fought for, losing many lives, battling it out with dark forces in our defence.

We must out these far right extremists for what they are, Nazi traitors, and they should be treated as such.

You and the likes of you are the TRAITORS to my island by getting into bed with mohammad and terrorist invaders.

Says the man espousing the views of Hitler.

Major wrote:

scrat wrote:
Itz what he does, and he would rather sell his country out to foreign nazi dictators, than stand up like a man for the values our grandparents fought for, losing many lives, battling it out with dark forces in our defence.

We must out these far right extremists for what they are, Nazi traitors, and they should be treated as such.

You and the likes of you are the TRAITORS to my island by getting into bed with mohammad and terrorist invaders.

Your parents would have gagged and tied you up, prior to dumping you in an internment camp for fellow Nazi TRAITORS, your vile and cowardly Nazi attitude should forfeit your citizenship.

You don't belong here!

Major wrote:

scrat wrote:
Itz what he does, and he would rather sell his country out to foreign nazi dictators, than stand up like a man for the values our grandparents fought for, losing many lives, battling it out with dark forces in our defence.

We must out these far right extremists for what they are, Nazi traitors, and they should be treated as such.

You and the likes of you are the TRAITORS to my island by getting into bed with mohammad and terrorist invaders.

Sass, scrat, it's people like that, that are the problem.  Nazism was heinous because of its ideas, yet unthinking people will identify with the crowd and not the idea.  Such people identify with the persons--anti-Muslim, them/us--and not realize that they are becoming the ideas of nazism all over again.  

Look at Major: "you are the TRAITORS" and "mohammad" and "terrorists"...he has people in mind, not ideas.  He doesn't even recognize it when a bad idea comes around, because he's so busy identifying the skin color or facial features of certain people.

I was raised during the war too.  But I thought everyone understood that those Germans were bad because of the ideas they held, not because of who they were ethnically.  In fact, ethnicity was over on the other side of the ledger--what you shouldn't hang your hat on.  

Imagine my utter amazement when I saw my own countrymen hating people (Muslims) because of skin color, and actually embracing torture and rape after 9/11.  They were the Germans all over again...blow me down!  My own countrymen!  They were invading other homelands, shooting innocent children and babies, raping daughters, slaughtering whole populations, and deliberately torturing...deliberately torturing.

That was 2003 and beyond.  I never again trusted my own country.  I realized then, that anyone can become a German.  Because people identify as people, and for/against people, and don't recognize that evil is an idea.  They, thus, don't see their own evil when it slips up on them.  They are too busy, like Major, seeing the optics of the people, and not what ideas people have.

Re Trump and some of his supporters giving the Nazi salute, I'm not surprised in the least.
I do think he can be likened to Hitler, not only with some of his ideas but also in the way he seems to have 'hypnotised' a good percentage of the American people with some sort of charisma that I don't understand.
He comes across as a bad joke....a caricature of everything a man should not be...yet there he is, victorious and incredibly dangerous, voted in by the public.

sassy wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Why anyone who proclaims a love of Britain would identify with foreigners raising Hitler salutes is utterly beyond comprehension.  

When I think about how my Dad, who I now look after, flew hurricanes in the last war to get rid of scum like that, it makes me sick to my stomach.

My father fought in WWii too - and my Granddad in the Battle of Cable Street - standing up to hate-mongers is what decent people do.

Ziz wrote:

sassy wrote:


When I think about how my Dad, who I now look after, flew hurricanes in the last war to get rid of scum like that, it makes me sick to my stomach.

My father fought in WWii too - and my Granddad in the Battle of Cable Street - standing up to hate-mongers is what decent people do.

Absolutely!

Original Quill wrote:

Major wrote:

You and the likes of you are the TRAITORS to my island by getting into bed with mohammad and terrorist invaders.

Sass, scrat, it's people like that, that are the problem.  Nazism was heinous because of its ideas, yet unthinking people will identify with the crowd and not the idea.  Such people identify with the persons--anti-Muslim, them/us--and not realize that they are becoming the ideas of nazism all over again.  

Look at Major: "you are the TRAITORS" and "mohammad" and "terrorists"...he has people in mind, not ideas.  He doesn't even recognize it when a bad idea comes around, because he's so busy identifying the skin color or facial features of certain people.

I was raised during the war too.  But I thought everyone understood that those Germans were bad because of the ideas they held, not because of who they were ethnically.  In fact, ethnicity was over on the other side of the ledger--what you shouldn't hang your hat on.  

Imagine my utter amazement when I saw my own countrymen hating people (Muslims) because of skin color, and actually embracing torture and rape after 9/11.  They were the Germans all over again...blow me down!  My own countrymen!  They were invading other homelands, shooting innocent children and babies, raping daughters, slaughtering whole populations, and deliberately torturing...deliberately torturing.

That was 2003 and beyond.  I never again trusted my own country.  I realized then, that anyone can become a German.  Because people identify as people, and for/against people, and don't recognize that evil is an idea.  They, thus, don't see their own evil when it slips up on them.  They are too busy, like Major, seeing the optics of the people, and not what ideas people have.

1000++++++

Syl wrote:Re Trump and some of his supporters giving the Nazi salute, I'm not surprised in the least.
I do think he can be likened to Hitler, not only with some of his ideas but also in the way he seems to have 'hypnotised' a good percentage of the American people with some sort of charisma that I don't understand.
He comes across as a bad joke....a caricature of everything a man should not be...yet there he is, victorious and incredibly dangerous, voted in by the public.

Good point - and I don't understand it either - 53% of white women even voted for the creep.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:Re Trump and some of his supporters giving the Nazi salute, I'm not surprised in the least.
I do think he can be likened to Hitler, not only with some of his ideas but also in the way he seems to have 'hypnotised' a good percentage of the American people with some sort of charisma that I don't understand.
He comes across as a bad joke....a caricature of everything a man should not be...yet there he is, victorious and incredibly dangerous, voted in by the public.

Good point - and I don't understand it either - 53% of white women even voted for the creep.

Lots of little Eva Braun's with posters pinned to their tops saying 'Trump can grab my pussy'.   Yep, they actually had those posters.

sassy wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Good point - and I don't understand it either - 53% of white women even voted for the creep.

Lots of little Eva Braun's with posters pinned to their tops saying 'Trump can grab my pussy'.   Yep, they actually had those posters.

Good god - sick fuckers.  

sassy wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Good point - and I don't understand it either - 53% of white women even voted for the creep.

Lots of little Eva Braun's with posters pinned to their tops saying 'Trump can grab my pussy'.   Yep, they actually had those posters.

It's unbelievable. I was shocked when the voting figures came in showing how many females had actually voted for him.
I know Clinton wasn't popular, but at least she doesn't sexually demean half of the worlds population the way he does.

sassy wrote:

Eeeew, desperate and possibly mentally disabled in some way, very sad.

February. Two Bullets.

HoratioTarr wrote:February.  Two Bullets.

Someone could almost imagine the whole thing has been planned out, a bit like the Kennedy assassination, that would be one explanation as to how he has gotten where he is.
Not sure why such an elaborate plan would be thought of, but strange things happen where power and control is the prize......maybe the bigger picture is yet to be revealed.

Syl wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:February.  Two Bullets.

Someone could almost imagine the whole thing has been planned out, a bit like the Kennedy assassination, that would be one explanation as to how he has gotten where he is.
Not sure why such an elaborate plan would be thought of, but strange things happen where power and control is the prize......maybe the bigger picture is yet to be revealed.

My missus thinks he might suffer something like a heart attack - more subtle, and plausible given his age.

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:

Someone could almost imagine the whole thing has been planned out, a bit like the Kennedy assassination, that would be one explanation as to how he has gotten where he is.
Not sure why such an elaborate plan would be thought of, but strange things happen where power and control is the prize......maybe the bigger picture is yet to be revealed.

My missus thinks he might suffer something like a heart attack - more subtle, and plausible given his age.

Or a fatal asthma attack brought on by too much hair lacquer inhalation...the possibilities are endless..

sassy wrote:

How stupid do you have to be to actually wear that?
Bet her daddy is proud.

We MIGHT want to cool it on conjecture about Trump dying here, guys ... right after I add this thought:



I bet the Trumps don't do this.

sassy wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Why anyone who proclaims a love of Britain would identify with foreigners raising Hitler salutes is utterly beyond comprehension.  

When I think about how my Dad, who I now look after, flew hurricanes in the last war to get rid of scum like that, it makes me sick to my stomach.

They did not have Hurricane aircraft in the last war

Major wrote:

sassy wrote:


When I think about how my Dad, who I now look after, flew hurricanes in the last war to get rid of scum like that, it makes me sick to my stomach.

They did not have Hurricane aircraft in the last war

No you are right, they didn't.   I was so fucking angry with you I said hurricanes when I should have said Lancs, and many people who have know me for many years will know that is true.   I think it is utterly revolting that so many of Bomber Command died for the likes of scum like you.   He got the DFC for his flying and for services to the country after he was given the OBE.   He's been interviewed for the archives they are doing for Bomber Command Centre http://www.internationalbcc.co.uk/archive and finally the things they endured are being told.     Over 55000 of them died, many of his friends and now scum like you are promoting the very ethos they fought against.   You are nothing, lower than the low, a turd in a pool of vomit.   You didn't deserve to be saved.

Yeah, Bae-Bae wrote:We MIGHT want to cool it on conjecture about Trump dying here, guys ... right after I add this thought:



I bet the Trumps don't do this.

Felt a bit sad watching that. Everything seemed brighter and full of hope then.

Major wrote:

sassy wrote:


When I think about how my Dad, who I now look after, flew hurricanes in the last war to get rid of scum like that, it makes me sick to my stomach.

They did not have Hurricane aircraft in the last war

What?  

The Hurricane was the most numerous of RAF Fighter Command’s aircraft during the Battle of Britain, equipping 33 squadrons by September 1940. Its traditional design - a wood and metal framework covered in fabric - was derived from earlier biplane fighters and was essentially out of date despite later improvements. However, it was a stable and rugged aircraft that could be maintained and repaired more easily than the Spitfire. Its limitations meant that, where possible, Hurricane squadrons were directed against enemy bombers while the superior Spitfires dealt with the fighter escorts. Despite its shortcomings, the Hurricane accounted for 656 German aircraft during the Battle of Britain - more than the Spitfire. Between 30 July and 16 September, 404 Hurricanes were destroyed.

(Imperial War Museum)

Ziz wrote:What?

The Hurricane was the most numerous of RAF Fighter Command’s aircraft during the Battle of Britain, equipping 33 squadrons by September 1940. Its traditional design - a wood and metal framework covered in fabric - was derived from earlier biplane fighters and was essentially out of date despite later improvements. However, it was a stable and rugged aircraft that could be maintained and repaired more easily than the Spitfire. Its limitations meant that, where possible, Hurricane squadrons were directed against enemy bombers while the superior Spitfires dealt with the fighter escorts. Despite its shortcomings, the Hurricane accounted for 656 German aircraft during the Battle of Britain - more than the Spitfire. Between 30 July and 16 September, 404 Hurricanes were destroyed.

(Imperial War Museum)

Yep, but they were Fighter Command not Bomber Command which my Dad was in.   I'm bloody steaming so much at the lump of turd I can't think straight.   Will have to take a Zen lesson from you Ziz.

sassy wrote:

Ziz wrote:What?

The Hurricane was the most numerous of RAF Fighter Command’s aircraft during the Battle of Britain, equipping 33 squadrons by September 1940. Its traditional design - a wood and metal framework covered in fabric - was derived from earlier biplane fighters and was essentially out of date despite later improvements. However, it was a stable and rugged aircraft that could be maintained and repaired more easily than the Spitfire. Its limitations meant that, where possible, Hurricane squadrons were directed against enemy bombers while the superior Spitfires dealt with the fighter escorts. Despite its shortcomings, the Hurricane accounted for 656 German aircraft during the Battle of Britain - more than the Spitfire. Between 30 July and 16 September, 404 Hurricanes were destroyed.

(Imperial War Museum)

Yep, but they were Fighter Command not Bomber Command which my Dad was in.   I'm bloody steaming so much at the lump of turd I can't think straight.   Will have to take a Zen lesson from you Ziz.

But that's not what the halfwit said:

Major wrote:
They did not have Hurricane aircraft in the last war

Ziz wrote:

sassy wrote:


Yep, but they were Fighter Command not Bomber Command which my Dad was in.   I'm bloody steaming so much at the lump of turd I can't think straight.   Will have to take a Zen lesson from you Ziz.

But that's not what the halfwit said:

Major wrote:
They did not have Hurricane aircraft in the last war

True, but he's a stupid .... anyway

Major wrote:

sassy wrote:


When I think about how my Dad, who I now look after, flew hurricanes in the last war to get rid of scum like that, it makes me sick to my stomach.

They did not have Hurricane aircraft in the last war

Don't be silly....

Wiki wrote:The Hawker Hurricane is a British single-seat fighter aircraft of the 1930s-1940s that was designed and predominantly built by Hawker Aircraft Ltd for the Royal Air Force (RAF). Although overshadowed by the Supermarine Spitfire, the aircraft became renowned during the Battle of Britain, accounting for 60% of the RAF's air victories in the battle, and served in all the major theatres of the Second World War.

The 1930s design evolved through several versions and adaptations, resulting in a series of aircraft which acted as fighters, bomber-interceptors, fighter-bombers (also called "Hurribombers") and ground support aircraft. Further versions known as the Sea Hurricane had modifications which enabled operation from ships. Some were converted as catapult-launched convoy escorts, known as "Hurricats". More than 14,583 Hurricanes were built by the end of 1944 (including at least 800 converted to Sea Hurricanes[3] and some 1,400 built in Canada by Canadian Car and Foundry).

Ziz wrote:

Syl wrote:Re Trump and some of his supporters giving the Nazi salute, I'm not surprised in the least.
I do think he can be likened to Hitler, not only with some of his ideas but also in the way he seems to have 'hypnotised' a good percentage of the American people with some sort of charisma that I don't understand.
He comes across as a bad joke....a caricature of everything a man should not be...yet there he is, victorious and incredibly dangerous, voted in by the public.

Good point - and I don't understand it either - 53% of white women even voted for the creep.

I THINK 'mesmerised' would be a more apt term than "hypnotised" in Syl's statement above there...

Trump didn't have to actually be a neo-nazi racist punk to attract those white supremacist scum to his cause --  he merely had to parrot back at them the kind of nonsense that he knows they want to hear --  whether or not he believes any of it is beside the point..

We have seen the same kind of cashing-in on fears and hatred of fringe groups often enough --  Pauline Hanson's One Nation down here in Australia, Nigel Farage's UKIP in the UK, the McCarthy communist witchunts in 1950s America.           

MY father [who was disabled] worked at Castle Bromwich Aero in the war,
he assembled Carberettas [spellcheck] for the SPITFIRE,and later Fuel Injection systems for same. He had a night off once, the same night the factory was bombed and the area he worked in was destroyed, and the man who was working at Dads bench was killed !

nicko wrote:MY father [who was disabled]   worked at Castle Bromwich Aero in the war,
he assembled Carberettas [spellcheck] for the SPITFIRE,and later Fuel Injection systems for same.  He had a night off once, the same night the factory was bombed and the area he worked in was destroyed, and the man who was working at Dads bench was killed !

God, luck, or something was on his side that night Nicko.

I do think it's sad that in those days many men didn't talk about what they had seen, and also what they had to do whilst the 2WW wars were active. There was no counselling for the survivors. My dad, and millions more were awarded medals for bravery, but so many didn't tell anyone what happened, they certainly didn't go into detail, it was all locked up inside of them.

sassy wrote:'Hail Trump!': White Nationalists Salute the President Elect

Video of an alt-right conference in Washington, D.C., where Trump’s victory was met with cheers and Nazi salutes.

“Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!”
That’s how Richard B. Spencer saluted more than 200 attendees on Saturday, gathered at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C., for the annual conference of the National Policy Institute, which describes itself as “an independent organization dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of  people of European descent in the United States, and around the world.”
Spencer has popularized the term “alt-right” to describe the movement he leads. Spencer has said his dream is “a new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans,” and has called for “peaceful ethnic cleansing.”
For most of the day, a parade of speakers discussed their ideology in relatively anodyne terms, putting a presentable face on their agenda. But after dinner, when most journalists had already departed, Spencer rose and delivered a speech to his followers dripping with anti-Semitism, and leaving no doubt as to what he actually seeks. He referred to the mainstream media as “Lügenpresse,” a term he said he was borrowing from “the original German”; the Nazis used the word to attack their critics in the press.
“America was until this past generation a white country designed for ourselves and our posterity,” Spencer said. “It is our creation, it is our inheritance, and it belongs to us.”   
The audience offered cheers, applause, and enthusiastic Nazi salutes.
Here is the video, excerpted from an Atlantic documentary profile of Spencer that will premiere in December 2016.



https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/



The most revolting people in the world and now in power in the USA, the scum of the earth are doing their best to take over and people are closing their eyes to it.

Typo! It would be more accurate for the caption in that video to read "Heil Trump"
Just like the "Heil Hitler" greeting of old.

I think Hail! (English) is translated as Heil! in German. Probably pronounced the same.

Original Quill wrote:I think Hail! (English) is translated as Heil! in German.  Probably pronounced the same.

Yes I know they have the same meaning, Quill.  
I was trying to say that the original German word should be used, not the English version.