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Post by The Devil, You Know Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:43 am

http://allenwestrepublic.com/2016/10/27/allen-west-whos-the-winner-on-november-9th-boils-down-to-one-thing/

here's a man who should run for office.
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Post by eddie Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:32 pm

Your link is dire. Keeps redirecting me to a Google win.

Any chance of actually putting the article here to read please lazy pants? Wink
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eddie wrote:Your link is dire. Keeps redirecting me to a Google win.

Any chance of actually putting the article here to read please lazy pants? Wink
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eddie wrote:Your link is dire. Keeps redirecting me to a Google win.

Any chance of actually putting the article here to read please lazy pants? Wink
Let us heed these words of Thomas Jefferson, “On matters of style, swim with the current, on matters of principle, stand like a rock.”

As Written By Allen B. West:

As I travel, I meet lots of folks in airports and elsewhere who confide in me that we’re “Facebook friends.” It’s so deeply humbling. Many ask if I ever read the comments. I’ll be honest, not often, but sometimes I take a survey of sentiment depending on a story. What I have noticed is there are more than a few who are despondent and believe nothing can be done to reverse our nation’s course. And then there are those who want to see our military rise up and arrest these corrupt and criminal individuals. And then there are the progressive trolls – spare me your illogical ranting about the lack of criminal behavior on the part of Hillary Clinton and her litany of disciples. If any of us were to commit a fraction of these actions, we would be charged and certainly incarcerated. Just do a simple comparison of the Hillary Clinton private email server case and her use of that insecure means to transmit classified information to that of US Marine Corps Major Jason Brezler…I rest my case.

But, somewhere in between the responses, there lies the true solution for what we’re witnessing in our America, which is the arrogance of officialdom.

I voted yesterday here in Dallas and made what I believe to be the best response to the evident corruption that has overtaken our system of governance. Yes, there is no doubt that there have been criminal actions and disregard of our rule of law. I will no longer accept an excuse of incompetence and ineptness as to where we find our economic situation in America — it is purposeful.

Over the past fifty years or so, we’ve seen the incremental rise of progressive socialism and the willing accomplices of the radical secular humanists. Along with that, we’ve witnessed the disturbing embrace of these progressive socialists of Islamo-fascists — how bizarre. This isn’t not about political party; it’s about a philosophy of governance and the restoration of our Constitutional Republic and the preservation of liberty — its very survival.

Once again I must repeat Abraham Lincoln’s true definition of liberty:

“The world has never had a good definition of the word liberty, and the American people, just now, are much in want of one. We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others the same word may mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men’s labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name—liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names—liberty and tyranny.”

This election is about what shall be the relationship between government and the individual. Shall we truly choose to have individual sovereignty to determine our own path, our pursuit of happiness? Or are we on the path towards having others determine the course and direction of our lives based on their collectivist ideology, seeking to guarantee our happiness? Do we still believe our inalienable rights – the first being life — emanate from the Creator, or have we succumbed to the ideal that the State, the government, is the highest authority…and therefore the grantor and taker of our individual rights?

This election isn’t about individuals who want to be president. It’s about a prevailing attitude, a theme — one of elitism – and truly, a bipartisan phenomenon. It is the political, media, cultural, educational, corporate and entertainment elites who are prescribing what’s best for those who are below them.

This sense of superiority has poisoned our Republic and our nation whereby power is being concentrated within a twelve square mile area called Washington DC. This election comes down to whether or not the elites win and continue on their path towards abject tyranny, eschewing liberty for their own gain and control. It is reflected in the words of President Barack Hussein Obama when he stood before the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation and admonished them, saying he’d take it as a personal insult if Hillary Clinton wasn’t elected president. Why? Why would a president say that? It’s simple, because it’s about HIS legacy, his ideology, his fundamental transformation of our United States of America — which we now fully see.

This election is about a liberal progressive media establishment that will manipulate the truth and become a state-sponsored entity that colludes and coordinates with certain political entities…why? Because it is all about the retention of power. This is about the educational elites who no longer teach the meaning of our rule of law and undermines our history, in many cases erasing it, in order to create the next generation of radicals who follow the mantra of Saul Alinsky instead of Thomas Jefferson.

After all, the incredible precepts given to us by our Founding Fathers are nullified because they were old white men who owned slaves. Sadly, we don’t pay attention to the white men and women who today advocate for a new form of enslavement – economic — as they advance the idea of the welfare state and the dependency society…all for their own power, by way of electoral patronage.

This election, the vote I cast yesterday is about what we shall be as a nation, what we shall pass onto our future generations. Imagine a nation where a government demands our men and women in uniform pay back enlistment bonuses for serving our nation in combat. When was the last time we heard of a government bureaucrat having to return a bonus paid by us the American taxpayer? That won’t happen because they’re the elites, and we’ve become the modern day serfs, as we head down the “road to serfdom.”

What I’ve come to realize, having been in Washington DC, is the best way to punish those who want power is take the power away. And we can do that with the votes we cast in these next two weeks. Certainly there are those who’ve become truly delusional lemmings who’ve forgotten what it means to be free… to have liberty. They’re more than happy to surrender themselves to the onerous and all encompassing federal government that will dictate to them “their bye and their leave.”

However, for those who us who believe in Lincoln’s definition of liberty, this is our moment, this is our time, it is our chance. If we fail in this endeavor, we will have said to the elites that regardless of your corruption and criminal behaviors, we will acquiesce. We will tell them we’re no longer willing to be citizens in a Republic, but rather subjects of a suit-wearing monarchy, certainly a political oligarchy where only certain folks retain power. And this isn’t about the false statement of the “one-percenters” — that is a political talking point. We should all seek to be a one-percenter, exceptional, in own our way.

As Thomas Paine wrote in December 1776 in “The Crisis,”

“THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.”

We do face a crisis at this time and on November 9th we will answer a simple question: were we sunshine patriots and summer soldiers? Years after Paine’s words, Lincoln articulated the meaning of tyranny — a group of elites determining what to do with others, and the product of others’ labor.

This is not easily conquered, but then again, no one thought standing up and defeating the British empire was either — yet it was a glorious triumph that set forth this “last great hope for mankind.”

Just remember, someone telling you they’ll give you something for nothing is cheap, like a participation trophy. It has no real value and in the end, holds no esteem. But to those true Americans, those who will make a stand…..

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Post by eddie Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:32 pm

Interesting....
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Post by Original Quill Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:55 pm

Allen West wrote:...spare me your illogical ranting about the lack of criminal behavior on the part of Hillary Clinton.

It's interesting that no less than Allan West admits that there is no "criminal behavior on the part of Hillary Clinton".  I have been saying this for months.  

Mr. West may want a sparing, but at least he's admitting the facts.  He admits that it is all based upon speculation...RW paranoia, I would call it.

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Allen West wrote:...spare me your illogical ranting about the lack of criminal behavior on the part of Hillary Clinton.

It's interesting that no less than Allan West admits that there is no "criminal behavior on the part of Hillary Clinton".  I have been saying this for months.  

Mr. West may want a sparing, but at least he's admitting the facts.  He admits that it is all based upon speculation...RW paranoia, I would call it.

yes of course takign a quote out of context can make it seem to say what you wish

As I travel, I meet lots of folks in airports and elsewhere who confide in me that we’re “Facebook friends.” It’s so deeply humbling. Many ask if I ever read the comments. I’ll be honest, not often, but sometimes I take a survey of sentiment depending on a story. What I have noticed is there are more than a few who are despondent and believe nothing can be done to reverse our nation’s course. And then there are those who want to see our military rise up and arrest these corrupt and criminal individuals. And then there are the progressive trolls – spare me your illogical ranting about the lack of criminal behavior on the part of Hillary Clinton and her litany of disciples. If any of us were to commit a fraction of these actions, we would be charged and certainly incarcerated. Just do a simple comparison of the Hillary Clinton private email server case and her use of that insecure means to transmit classified information to that of US Marine Corps Major Jason Brezler…I rest my case.


he didn't say what you implied he said.

not much of a lawyer are you.
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Post by Original Quill Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:32 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

It's interesting that no less than Allan West admits that there is no "criminal behavior on the part of Hillary Clinton".  I have been saying this for months.  

Mr. West may want a sparing, but at least he's admitting the facts.  He admits that it is all based upon speculation...RW paranoia, I would call it.

yes of course takign a quote out of context can make it seem to say what you wish

As I travel, I meet lots of folks in airports and elsewhere who confide in me that we’re “Facebook friends.” It’s so deeply humbling. Many ask if I ever read the comments. I’ll be honest, not often, but sometimes I take a survey of sentiment depending on a story. What I have noticed is there are more than a few who are despondent and believe nothing can be done to reverse our nation’s course. And then there are those who want to see our military rise up and arrest these corrupt and criminal individuals. And then there are the progressive trolls – spare me your illogical ranting about the lack of criminal behavior on the part of Hillary Clinton and her litany of disciples. If any of us were to commit a fraction of these actions, we would be charged and certainly incarcerated. Just do a simple comparison of the Hillary Clinton private email server case and her use of that insecure means to transmit classified information to that of US Marine Corps Major Jason Brezler…I rest my case.


he didn't say what you implied he said.

not much of a lawyer are you.

See?  He says "spare me the..." and then goes on to what if... suppositions.  What is concrete is, He has admitted the premise.

That's bigger than, say, Breitbart and Co. are willing to be. eh?

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Original Quill wrote:
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yes of course takign a quote out of context can make it seem to say what you wish

As I travel, I meet lots of folks in airports and elsewhere who confide in me that we’re “Facebook friends.” It’s so deeply humbling. Many ask if I ever read the comments. I’ll be honest, not often, but sometimes I take a survey of sentiment depending on a story. What I have noticed is there are more than a few who are despondent and believe nothing can be done to reverse our nation’s course. And then there are those who want to see our military rise up and arrest these corrupt and criminal individuals. And then there are the progressive trolls – spare me your illogical ranting about the lack of criminal behavior on the part of Hillary Clinton and her litany of disciples. If any of us were to commit a fraction of these actions, we would be charged and certainly incarcerated. Just do a simple comparison of the Hillary Clinton private email server case and her use of that insecure means to transmit classified information to that of US Marine Corps Major Jason Brezler…I rest my case.


he didn't say what you implied he said.

not much of a lawyer are you.

See?  He says "spare me the..." and then goes on to what if... suppositions.  What is concrete is, He has admitted the premise.

That's bigger than, say, Breitbart and Co. are willing to be. eh?
he was pointing out what people like you are trying to say. That is not admitting it is a fact.
you seem to be proving his point very well.
Just admit you really cocked up on that one.
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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:39 am

Oh, and Allan West has held office here, The DYK.
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Post by 'Wolfie Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:13 pm

Idea

ANY eligible American voter prepared to follow Mr West's personal beliefs and philosophy could not be voting for either of the major candidates...

As his assorted and rambling criteria would exclude both Trump and Clinton..

Anyone wanting to follow West's lead will need to vote for one of the minority/third party options !    
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Post by Original Quill Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:37 pm

Flop wrote:he was pointing out what people like you are trying to say. That is not admitting it is a fact.
you seem to be proving his point very well.
Just admit you really cocked up on that one.

To the contrary, he wants to avoid discussion of that matter, and go beyond to comment upon his victim status.  In essence he is saying, regardless of the fact she is innocent, if "any of us were to commit a fraction of these actions, we would be charged and certainly incarcerated."  

Certainly you are not saying he is guilty, and neither is he...just like Hillary,  That is the modus ponens posing of his statement.  His point goes to any innocent people, and the two divergent treatments.  Clearly, he is acknowledging that Hillary is innocent just like "any of us."

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:13 am

eddie wrote:Interesting....

Eddie, and to think that with all this is going on that you were accused of being a conspiracy theory nutjob.

Ya gotta laugh Laughing
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Post by Irn Bru Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:18 am

Allen West is hardly the ideal person to come out with all that. He's a republican and a member of the Tea Party.

He was offered the opportunity to pay a $5000 fine and resign from the US Army or face a court marshall for failing to uphold the standards expected of an officer of the US Army.

Some folks sure can pick 'em right enough Laughing
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Post by The Devil, You Know Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:52 am

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Flop wrote:he was pointing out what people like you are trying to say. That is not admitting it is a fact.
you seem to be proving his point very well.
Just admit you really cocked up on that one.

To the contrary, he wants to avoid discussion of that matter, and go beyond to comment upon his victim status.  In essence he is saying, regardless of the fact she is innocent, if "any of us were to commit a fraction of these actions, we would be charged and certainly incarcerated."  

Certainly you are not saying he is guilty, and neither is he...just like Hillary,  That is the modus ponens posing of his statement.  His point goes to any innocent people, and the two divergent treatments.  Clearly, he is acknowledging that Hillary is innocent just like "any of us."
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Irn Bru wrote:Allen West is hardly the ideal person to come out with all that. He's a republican and a member of the Tea Party.

He was offered the opportunity to pay a $5000 fine and resign from the US Army or face a court marshall for failing to uphold the standards expected of an officer of the US Army.

Some folks sure can pick 'em right enough Laughing
I understand you that you have no respect for those that serve in the military, I suppose it comes with the job in your case.
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Irn Bru wrote:Allen West is hardly the ideal person to come out with all that. He's a republican and a member of the Tea Party.

He was offered the opportunity to pay a $5000 fine and resign from the US Army or face a court marshall for failing to uphold the standards expected of an officer of the US Army.

Some folks sure can pick 'em right enough Laughing
cant help twisting the facts as usual.

The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000. West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits as a lieutenant colonel in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."
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Post by Original Quill Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:57 pm

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Original Quill wrote:

To the contrary, he wants to avoid discussion of that matter, and go beyond to comment upon his victim status.  In essence he is saying, regardless of the fact she is innocent, if "any of us were to commit a fraction of these actions, we would be charged and certainly incarcerated."  

Certainly you are not saying he is guilty, and neither is he...just like Hillary,  That is the modus ponens posing of his statement.  His point goes to any innocent people, and the two divergent treatments.  Clearly, he is acknowledging that Hillary is innocent just like "any of us."
make your mind up

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Post by Irn Bru Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:03 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:Allen West is hardly the ideal person to come out with all that. He's a republican and a member of the Tea Party.

He was offered the opportunity to pay a $5000 fine and resign from the US Army or face a court marshall for failing to uphold the standards expected of an officer of the US Army.

Some folks sure can pick 'em right enough Laughing
I understand you that you have no respect for those that serve in the military, I suppose it comes with the job in your case.

Oh dear Flap. I think you really need to read a bit more about him on how he tried to discredit an opponent who also served in the military.

 So Allen West Wants to Talk About His Military Record…

Tea Party superstar Representative Allen West released one of the toughest attack ads of the campaign season on Friday, contrasting his military career with his Democratic opponent’s arrest as a teenager following a drunken bar night—complete with a mug shot:
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Feb. 16, 2003, Fort Hood, Texas. Lt. Col. Allen West had just received deployment orders, and prepares his men to go to war. That night, South Beach, Miami: Patrick Murphy is thrown out of a club for fighting, covered in alcohol, and unable to stand. Murphy then confronts and verbally assaults a police officer. Patrick Murphy was arrested and taken to jail. Two men, a country in crisis—you decide.

To make the point even more bluntly, the West campaign put out a press release along with the ad saying that Murphy is a “spoiled brat who knows nothing of duty, honor or service.”

The voters of Florida’s 18th District will have to decide if they want to hold Murphy’s run-in with the law against him. But it’s odd that West trumpets “duty, honor and service” in comparison to the transgression, while touting his military career—because his record there is, by almost any measure, more ignominious than an arrest for drunk and disorderly conduct.

West resigned from the military in 2004, following an incident involving his unit’s treatment of an Iraqi man. West himself was charged with two violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, including one against assault, and agreed to retire after an Article 15 hearing in order to avoid a court martial.


https://www.thenation.com/article/so-allen-west-wants-talk-about-his-military-record/

I didn't have so much of a problem with what West did but I did with involving the men under his command to do the beating.And if you want to get personal with me about it let me just add that I have every respect for the military, unlike you who says you love your country but you can't bring yourself to live in it. And even worse you refused to defend it choosing to ask the MoD for permission to leave no doubt at the first whiff of trouble.

And how's the pro Trump campaign going?

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