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Post by magica Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:16 pm

The first of the children from the jungle arrived today. The ones I saw looked atleast 20!

I wonder how many Lily Allen puts up in her 2 million pound house. Razz

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:22 pm

I said this the other day...


They are not children and should not be allowed to come here!!!
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Post by magica Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:31 pm

Also those who are children, why were they left alone while their parents are here. I don't get it.
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Post by eddie Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:58 pm

Magica, do you have a link to a news article by any chance?
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Post by magica Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:12 am

Sorry I'm on my tablet Eddie, I can't do it on here. I will when I'm on the computer though.
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:20 am

These so called 'children' all look over 18!!!


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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:59 am

14 my arse! lol!


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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:01 am

Here's another one classed as a child.

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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:03 am

But this is what you'd expect, and I'm sure nobody objects to this lad being reunited with his brother.    Should everyone with family be let into the UK?  I think so, yes.   I just wish they'd be more honest about it, and stop calling these young men, children.

Edited to say, this is a child and he looks fourteen. I also get that many youngsters look older than their years. I think if they have family in the UK then they should be allowed to come here if their own country is unsafe.

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:31 am

Oh do fuck off.

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:32 am

HoratioTarr wrote:But this is what you'd expect, and I'm sure nobody objects to this lad being reunited with his brother.    Should everyone with family be let into the UK?  I think so, yes.   I just wish they'd be more honest about it, and stop calling these young men, children.  

Edited to say, this is a child and he looks fourteen.   I also get that many youngsters look older than their years.   I think if they have family in the UK  then they should be allowed to come here if their own country is unsafe.  

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Post by nicko Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:35 pm

I thought there were young girls there as well, where are they?
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:52 pm

They are not children and they should be returned to wherever they came from!!!
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:54 pm

nicko wrote:I thought there were young girls there as well,    where are they?


Suggest you read a bit more.   These are UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN.   The girls are nearly all accompanied.

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:57 pm

They are not children!!!
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:58 pm

17 yr olds at a 6th Form College 'do'

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:08 pm

Fuck off sassy... they have beers in their hands!!!


Look at the pictures of the immigrant 'children'... are you honestly trying to say they are children!!!???


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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:12 pm

Suggest you have a look at the children going in to your local 6th Form College.

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:16 pm

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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:17 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:They are not children and they should be returned to wherever they came from!!!

I look at it this way....I have three brothers, one of whom is gay. And I would like to think that, if they were in this situation, their lives in danger, and I was here, then they'd have eventually safe passage to be with family. I know the system is open to abuse, and I'm not for open door immigration - I still think we need to go through the proper processes, but we also have to have some fucking compassion here and look at individual cases and circumstances.
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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:27 pm

sassy wrote:Suggest you have a look at the children going in to your local 6th Form College.

I think the problem is the word 'children'. Perhaps they should change the usage to below the Age of Majority. People might have a better understanding of that and what it relates to.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:28 pm

That's a really good idea.

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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:28 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Fuck off sassy... they have beers in their hands!!!


Look at the pictures of the immigrant 'children'... are you honestly trying to say they are children!!!???

In the eyes of the law, you're a 'minor' til you're 18.
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:29 pm


I wonder how long it will be before they disappear from authority monitoring and then get arrested for a terrorist plot...?
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:48 pm



http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/722326/Migrant-crisis-ages-Calais-Jungle-refugee-children-questioned-UK
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:52 pm



'Adults are pretending to be children': Now even aid workers admit 'Calais kids' are LYING about their age as vulnerable nine-year-old African boy is refused UK entry in 'shambolic' selection process

But the Home Office claims rigorous checks are in place to check the ages of each refugee - despite admitting it won't carry out medical tests because they could be 'intrusive'. Instead, children are verified by their 'physical appearance'.

A Whitehall source added that the migrants may simply look older because fleeing war zones had 'probably toughened them up so they've grown up a bit quicker'.

lol!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3847114/Adults-pretending-children-aid-workers-admit-Calais-kids-LYING-age-vulnerable-nine-year-old-refused-UK-entry-shambolic-selection-process.html

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Post by magica Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:59 pm

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'Adults are pretending to be children': Now even aid workers admit 'Calais kids' are LYING about their age as vulnerable nine-year-old African boy is refused UK entry in 'shambolic' selection process

But the Home Office claims rigorous checks are in place to check the ages of each refugee - despite admitting it won't carry out medical tests because they could be 'intrusive'. Instead, children are verified by their 'physical appearance'.

A Whitehall source added that the migrants may simply look older because fleeing war zones had 'probably toughened them up so they've grown up a bit quicker'.
lol!

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Funny how that never made children in ww2 look any older, and they were bombed out of homes.  Also young boys in the first world war, fighting, they looked their age.  Im not buying this.

I think if they are really children they should go to their families, but as I said, why are their families here, and they are there, didn't they travel with them? How many are really families and jot just saying that, they have no papers as they destroy them they could be kids or are members of IS for all we now. 

Also how many of the youngster have families in other countries, why not go there?

It wont stop, and will carry on and on.  As much as I think its sad to be made homeless, in the war thousands were bombed out and had nowhere to go, no country wanted the british kids.


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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:00 pm

No proof is needed for one to claim to be related to another...


They can make it all up!!!
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Post by magica Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:01 pm

Sorry Tom I edited mine and said that before your post.
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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:30 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Fuck off sassy... they have beers in their hands!!!


Look at the pictures of the immigrant 'children'... are you honestly trying to say they are children!!!???

Who sold them those beers? Shocked
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Post by magica Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:30 am

These so called boys are men. Why arnt they fighting for their country like our men did in two wars.

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Post by Miffs2 Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:01 am

Fast forward a couple of months...
News headlines read... "Serious doubt being cast over ages of 'child' asylum seekers as it emerges....
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Post by Guest Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:22 am

magica wrote:These so called boys are men. Why arnt they fighting for their country like our men did in two wars.



Seems that comment showed a complete ignorance of what is happening.   Tell me, what side would you like them to fight with?   Assad who is barrel bombing his own people?  The 'moderates' that the USA and UK armed and it has now been establied are part of Al Qeda, or maybe ISIS?   You chose, after all, it's so easy.

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Post by Guest Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:23 am

Miffs2 wrote:Fast forward a couple of months...
News headlines read... "Serious doubt being cast over ages of 'child' asylum seekers as it emerges....


More likely to be 'As the terrible stories of the Chidren of Calais are told, our inhumanity at not acting sooner is revealed'.

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Post by magica Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:40 am

sassy wrote:
magica wrote:These so called boys are men. Why arnt they fighting for their country like our men did in two wars.



Seems that comment showed a complete ignorance of what is happening.   Tell me, what side would you like them to fight with?   Assad who is barrel bombing his own people?  The 'moderates' that the USA and UK armed and it has now been establied are part of Al Qeda, or maybe ISIS?   You chose, after all, it's so easy.

Im many things Sassy but ignorant isnt one of them.

They could've fought with the Iraqi troops who are fighting out there, to liberate Syria. They had to come through Iraq to get here after all.

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Post by Miffs2 Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:41 am

sassy wrote:
Miffs2 wrote:Fast forward a couple of months...
News headlines read... "Serious doubt being cast over ages of 'child' asylum seekers as it emerges....


More likely to be 'As the terrible stories of the Chidren of Calais are told, our inhumanity at not acting sooner is revealed'.

Of the 500 who have had their age queried, 65% were found to be over 18. This included one aged 32. They could start there. Or they could think about the Afghan national who claimed to be a child, he was an adult who went on to commit a serious assault. Dress it up any which way the are not children!
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Post by magica Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:43 am

Now its been said one of the 'children' is 38!

Meanwhile while the do gooders are pushing these men over here, kids are being overlooked.

Also while we are taking all the illegals in, people who want to come here legally are refused! Its so confusing and mixed up now.
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Post by Miffs2 Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:48 am

magica wrote:Now its been said one of the 'children' is 38!

Meanwhile while the do gooders are pushing these men over here, kids are being overlooked.

Also while we are taking all the illegals in, people who want to come here legally are refused! Its so confusing and mixed up now.  

That's why they want to come to this country because it's such a bloody mess, they know once they get in they are sorted.
Why no girls either?
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:13 pm



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Post by magica Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:20 pm

I wondered that. Surely there must be young girls on their own. Are other countries taking these 'boys' too.  They all claim to have families here, but now it turns out many don't - well we saw that coming.

I have no qualms in helping anyone, especially kids, but these liars get in, and the real kids dont.  

One, so called child, who performed a sexual act on the lady who took him in and gave him a home,  wasn't a child at all, and how do we know they're not IS either.  Its a shambles, and the luvvies lwho called for them will not offer their homes to them I bet.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:34 pm

They are lying filthy scum... they are not children and they are not refugees if they pass through places of safety to head for somewhere that might be economically more beneficial to them... they are then economic migrants znd illegal immigrants who should be returned to wherever they came from...
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Post by Miffs2 Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:53 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:They are lying filthy scum... they are not children and they are not refugees if they pass through places of safety to head for somewhere that might be economically more beneficial to them... they are then economic migrants znd illegal immigrants who should be returned to wherever they came from...

Less than 5% in Calais are from Syria. You are right they are economic migrants who, if genuine, would have claimed asylum in the first safe country.
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