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Post by HoratioTarr Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:07 pm

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'I'm sorry for what we've put you through': Lily Allen apologises 'on behalf of my country' after breaking down in tears during a visit to the Jungle in Calais

The 31-year-old singer broke down in tears at one point during a meeting with a boy aged 13 from Afghanistan, who has risked his life trying to board UK-bound lorries.
The teenager, who said his father lives in Birmingham, has been camped at the Jungle on the edge of the northern French port city for two months.
During their meeting, Allen told him: ‘It just seems that at three different intervals in this young boy’s life, the English in particular have put you in danger.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3834170/I-m-sorry-ve-Lily-Allen-apologises-behalf-country-breaking-tears-visit-Jungle-Calais.html
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Post by The Devil, You Know Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:37 pm

Ziz wrote:
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they are not values that ISLAM ascribe to. some Muslims may not kill them but they dont support them.

you seem to think oppression of the gays is only a right wing issue.
bit of a sweeping statement dont you think


I don't care whether the oppression of gays comes from right or left - I am anti-hater.
except you dont appear to be, you just want to bash the right.
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:39 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

I don't care whether the oppression of gays comes from right or left - I am anti-hater.
except you dont appear to be, you just want to bash the right.

Couldn't care less what I appear to be - when a case of hate for women, gays, immigrants, whatever emerges from the left I will condemn it.

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Post by The Devil, You Know Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:41 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
except you dont appear to be, you just want to bash the right.

Couldn't care less what I appear to be - when a case of hate for women, gays, immigrants, whatever emerges from the left I will condemn it.
what about russia?
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:42 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Couldn't care less what I appear to be - when a case of hate for women, gays, immigrants, whatever emerges from the left I will condemn it.
what about russia?

What about them?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:42 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
they are not values that ISLAM ascribe to. some Muslims may not kill them but they dont support them.

you seem to think oppression of the gays is only a right wing issue.
bit of a sweeping statement dont you think


Right or left, matters to me not a jot  - I am anti-hate.


So you are anti left...?


Because lefties are full of hate against everyone who doesn't bow down to them and their 'progressrve' views...


There are a lot of feminists who are full of hate...


And homo-nazis are seething most of the time too...
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:46 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Right or left, matters to me not a jot  - I am anti-hate.


So you are anti left...?


Because lefties are full of hate against everyone who doesn't bow down to them and their 'progressrve' views...


There are a lot of feminists who are full of hate too...


And homo-nazis are seething most of the time too...

Anti-hate - including homosexuals and females who sow hatred and division. Gender and orientation are not an indication of righteousness.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:50 pm

Ziz wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


So you are anti left...?


Because lefties are full of hate against everyone who doesn't bow down to them and their 'progressrve' views...


There are a lot of feminists who are full of hate too...


And homo-nazis are seething most of the time too...

Anti-hate -including homosexuals or feminists that sow hatred and division. Gender and orientation are not an indication of righteousness.


Neither is being a leftie or a 'progressive'...
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:52 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Anti-hate -including homosexuals or feminists that sow hatred and division. Gender and orientation are not an indication of righteousness.


Neither is being a leftie or a 'progressive'...

True.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:14 pm

And while we're on the subject of hate...



The hate comes from those who just can't face
Inconvenient truth conclusively fact based
Overwhelming evidence is there
Enraged lefties pull out their hair
While I sit back and laugh and rest my case!!!


Laughing

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:47 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:And while we're on the subject of hate...



The hate comes from those who just can't face
Inconvenient truth conclusively fact based
Overwhelming evidence is there
Enraged lefties pull out their hair
While I sit back and laugh and rest my case!!!


Laughing


Not from me it doesn't - I simply don't hate. grin angel

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Post by HoratioTarr Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:08 am

So they've found 'Dad'.

The father of the migrant boy controversially championed by Lily Allen sneaked into Britain in the back of a lorry to claim asylum – then returned to the country he fled in terror for a three-month holiday after being given the right to stay here.
Hazrat Gul Sherin, whose son Shamsher appeared with the tearful pop star last week as she ‘apologised’ on behalf of Britain for bombing his country and putting him ‘in the hands of the Taliban’, came to the UK illegally in 2005, having fled war-torn Afghanistan.
His decision to flee the country was prompted not by the Taliban but because as a leading supporter of a brutal Islamist warlord – and an officer in his private army – he was afraid of the US and UK-backed Northern Alliance.
After seven years, Sherin was given indefinite leave to remain in the UK, then promptly returned to Afghanistan to visit his family.
the 49-year-old was a commander in the Islamist group Hezb-e Islami, led by the Butcher of Kabul, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.
In the early 1990s, Hekmatyar’s group of fundamentalist Sunni Muslim Pashtuns clashed violently with other mujahideen factions in the struggle for control of the capital, Kabul.
Hezb-e Islami was blamed for much of the terrible death and destruction of that period and was accused of appalling human rights abuses, including the assassination of intellectuals and throwing acid in women’s faces.
The civil war led to Hekmatyar’s fall from grace and he quickly became one of the most reviled men in the country. And in 1996, when Hekmatyar went into exile, Sherin also began to lead a quieter life.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3840098/Calais-Jungle-boy-silly-Lily-cry-father-ex-Islamist-fighter.html
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:17 am



No surprise there HT...


The lying asylum seekers and quick to go back to their home countries after being granted leave to remain here... or if they are evading police here after committing crimes...


But the lefties will always deny this and pretend not to see any evidence of it...
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Post by veya_victaous Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:51 pm

Actually Progressiveness is right. as proven by history.

Doesn't matter how you spin it tommy, humanity has dealt with the fearful cowards like yourself infinite times before.

YES people like you are always the problem way back to the Roman Republic and the greek states we can see Your mindset prevelant in the LOSERS in the groups we now views as the 'bad guys' the ones that we now acknowledge were holding back humanity due to their personal weakness, fear and failings.
Just like you.

You see Tommy people like You have to Lose or mankind fails.
If life stands still it dies, and you wail and cry and the slightest movement.
Your mindset is a threat to humanity that needs to be neturalized, Lucky we can cure it with education, too late for you but future generations should fair better.


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Post by Irn Bru Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:27 am

I say well done Lily Allen. I saw her interview on BBC and she was very emotional and it was genuine as well so it's easy to understand what she said and why she said it.

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So much better than the darlin' of the RW like Kate Hopkins who would rather take out a gunboat and sink the boats crossing the Med as they fled from the terror. Hundreds died drowing, men, women and children and she called them cockroaches.

There's the difference.
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Post by 'Wolfie Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:36 am

Suspect

That KATIE HOPKINS is such a disgusting little scrubber,  isn't she  !!!

Fortunately for me, the only things that I've heard about her have been the occasional items reproduced on here...

Not only does she seem to have zero compassion for her fellow human beings,  but she also appears to be a perfect example of just how a totally talentless, worthless bone idle idiot can weasel her way into overpaid but still largely superficial and irrelevent jobs through simply spreading her legs for the 'right' people..

No doubt Tommy and Major do idolise and fantasise over her, in their idle moments ?
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Post by nicko Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:21 am

Your a hateful little man aren't you? By your own admission you know very little about her. Just want to get your "key board warrior" hat on don't you? Disgusting remarks from a forum poster.
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Post by Andy Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:32 am

Hopkins is beyond vile.
She is a tv troll.
She cannot seriously believe the hatred she spews out.
Nobody is that evil.
Except the extremists.
Didnt she wish Corbyn had cancer, like she had?
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:42 am

veya_victaous wrote:Actually Progressiveness is right. as proven by history.

Doesn't matter how you spin it tommy, humanity has dealt with the fearful cowards like yourself infinite times before.

YES people like you are always the problem way back to the Roman Republic and the greek states we can see Your mindset prevelant in the LOSERS in the groups we now views as the 'bad guys' the ones that we now acknowledge were holding back humanity due to their personal weakness, fear and failings.
Just like you.

You see Tommy people like You have to Lose or mankind fails.
If life stands still it dies, and you wail and cry and the slightest movement.
Your mindset is a threat to humanity that needs to be neturalized, Lucky we can cure it with education, too late for you but future generations should fair better.


You are such a twat... you try any reason to try to justify mass immigration to the UK while ignoring all of the negative consequences and the fact that 75% of the population want immigration numbers greatly reduced or stopped...



If you don't get your own way mankind fails...!?


What a melodramatic bell end...!!!


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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:43 am

Lilly Allen is a complete twat!!!
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Post by veya_victaous Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:47 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:Actually Progressiveness is right. as proven by history.

Doesn't matter how you spin it tommy, humanity has dealt with the fearful cowards like yourself infinite times before.

YES people like you are always the problem way back to the Roman Republic and the greek states we can see Your mindset prevelant in the LOSERS in the groups we now views as the 'bad guys' the ones that we now acknowledge were holding back humanity due to their personal weakness, fear and failings.
Just like you.

You see Tommy people like You have to Lose or mankind fails.
If life stands still it dies, and you wail and cry and the slightest movement.
Your mindset is a threat to humanity that needs to be neturalized, Lucky we can cure it with education, too late for you but future generations should fair better.


You are such a twat... you try any reason to try to justify mass immigration to the UK while ignoring all of the negative consequences and the fact that 75% of the population want immigration numbers greatly reduced or stopped...



If you don't get your own way mankind fails...!?


What a melodramatic bell end...!!!




Umm No the UK is not important, i really don't give the slightest shit about it.
but to be FAIR it should have an Average level of migration like it has now
Considering all the Damagwe teh UK has doner to the world.

the reason I oppose you so storngly is YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT like suggesting the UK has Mass migtration When it clearly DOES NOT
yes it's the most you have had but it is still barely the AVERAGE rate of migration for a western nation.


And It's not my way You are conservative and Dumb and they ALWAYS lose in the end
always have,
you can hold back progress only so long before like a breaking dam it sweeps the shit like you away

You openly oppose progress so you should be treated liek the meaningless pointelss waste of resoures you are and those resource that are wasted on you shoudl be gioven to someoen else. because of what you post I have come to truely beleive that it would be better if you and major etc where chucked in the sea and let someone else live there instead, they migth actually do something instead of Squander and Whine about the fact they are getting a Free ride.

Your not even right wing, You are just Stupid.
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:59 pm

Average for the western world...?


Mass immigration is happening in many places in the western world...


To try to just call it 'average' as though it is anything other than mass immigration is pure leftie double speak spin waffle!!!
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Post by Irn Bru Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:11 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Lilly Allen is a complete twat!!!

Lily Allen went to Calais at the request of a charity to highlight what it was like job done

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The darling of the RW, Kate Hopkins, on migrants fleeing from the terror

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Who's the twat?
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Post by veya_victaous Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:37 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Average for the western world...?


Mass immigration is happening in many places in the western world...


To try to just call it 'average' as though it is anything other than mass immigration is pure leftie double speak spin waffle!!!


And ours is signifantly higher than yours
It's not the problem
people like YOU are the problem

You are barely 1.5% migration rate.
barely anything NOT even remotely in the relams of Mass migration.


http://focus-migration.hwwi.de/Country-Profiles.1349.0.html?&L=1


The United Kingdom became a country of immigration after the Second World War, following large-scale immigration from its former colonies. Events since the mid-1990s have undermined confidence both in the ability of the country to integrate visible minorities and in the efficacy of multicultural policies in doing so. Today, the United Kingdom is receiving more immigrants than at any point in its history. These new arrivals come at a time when the UK has not fully coped with the challenges thrown up by earlier waves in postwar migration. (Version from 12/2007)

not migrant, but the Failure of the Locals

Check out the other nations MOST handle it better than you. It is your failure
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Post by nicko Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:48 am

Can't you get it through your thick skull that we are only a SMALL island,
it's been pointed out to you enough times. We don't have enough Doctors, nurses, School places ect.
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Post by veya_victaous Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:54 am

nicko wrote:Can't you get it through your thick skull that we are only a SMALL island,
it's been pointed out to you enough times. We don't have enough Doctors, nurses, School places ect.

And cant you stop being lazy fuckers and train more!!!!!

You PROVE the point that it is the Failure of the British People

You really Think a single thing you said makes any difference?
the fact you think any of them are anything but tiny issues
Shows how Pathetic and Make beleive Your problems with migration is.

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:53 am

veya_victaous wrote:
nicko wrote:Can't you get it through your thick skull that we are only a SMALL island,
it's been pointed out to you enough times. We don't have enough Doctors, nurses, School places ect.

And cant you stop being lazy fuckers and train more!!!!!

You PROVE the point that it is the Failure of the British People

You really Think a single thing you said makes any difference?
the fact you think any of them are anything but tiny issues
Shows how Pathetic and Make beleive Your problems with migration is.

Pull ya fingers Out you lazy Fucks and Stop whining Lily Allen Causes a Twitter Furore after apologising for the whole of the British people - Page 5 4233679493

Mind your own business - we'll decide how we want our country to be, not you.

I don't know why nicko keeps explaining anything to you - you're just an anti-English bigot anyway.
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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:53 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Average for the western world...?


Mass immigration is happening in many places in the western world...


To try to just call it 'average' as though it is anything other than mass immigration is pure leftie double speak spin waffle!!!


And ours is signifantly higher than yours
It's not the problem
people like YOU are the problem

You are barely 1.5% migration rate.
barely anything NOT even remotely in the relams of Mass migration.


http://focus-migration.hwwi.de/Country-Profiles.1349.0.html?&L=1


The United Kingdom became a country of immigration after the Second World War, following large-scale immigration from its former colonies. Events since the mid-1990s have undermined confidence both in the ability of the country to integrate visible minorities and in the efficacy of multicultural policies in doing so. Today, the United Kingdom is receiving more immigrants than at any point in its history. These new arrivals come at a time when the UK has not fully coped with the challenges thrown up by earlier waves in postwar migration. (Version from 12/2007)

not migrant, but the Failure of the Locals

Check out the other nations MOST handle it better than you. It is your failure

What other nations do is up to them, what we do is up to us.
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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:21 am

veya_victaous wrote:
nicko wrote:Can't you get it through your thick skull that we are only a SMALL island,
it's been pointed out to you enough times. We don't have enough Doctors, nurses, School places ect.

And cant you stop being lazy fuckers and train more!!!!!

You PROVE the point that it is the Failure of the British People

You really Think a single thing you said makes any difference?
the fact you think any of them are anything but tiny issues
Shows how Pathetic and Make beleive Your problems with migration is.

Pull ya fingers Out you lazy Fucks and Stop whining Lily Allen Causes a Twitter Furore after apologising for the whole of the British people - Page 5 4233679493

in the UK now you have to pay thousands to get a degree before you can be a nurse, for example. Years ago, that wasn't an issue. Nursing was open to all. You just had to pass an entrance exam and interview panel and you were then trained in the wards. This method of training nurses worked perfectly well for decades and decades. Prior to 1990, nurse education followed an apprentice type model. The Project 2000 implemented by Thatchers reign took nurse training out of hospitals and into universities.

It's not about being lazy. It's about not having opportunity or the financial backing for many people.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:25 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

And cant you stop being lazy fuckers and train more!!!!!

You PROVE the point that it is the Failure of the British People

You really Think a single thing you said makes any difference?
the fact you think any of them are anything but tiny issues
Shows how Pathetic and Make beleive Your problems with migration is.

Pull ya fingers Out you lazy Fucks and Stop whining Lily Allen Causes a Twitter Furore after apologising for the whole of the British people - Page 5 4233679493

in the UK now you have to pay thousands to get a degree before you can be a  nurse, for example.   Years ago, that wasn't an issue.  Nursing was open to all.  You just had to pass an entrance exam and interview panel and you were  then trained in the wards.   This method of training nurses worked perfectly well for decades and decades.   Prior to 1990, nurse education followed an apprentice type model.  The Project 2000 implemented by Thatchers reign took nurse training out of hospitals and into universities.

  It's not about being lazy.   It's about not having opportunity or the financial backing for many people.


Absolutely agree with you about nursing, and now the bastards have even taken away the burseries.

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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:37 am

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HoratioTarr wrote:

in the UK now you have to pay thousands to get a degree before you can be a  nurse, for example.   Years ago, that wasn't an issue.  Nursing was open to all.  You just had to pass an entrance exam and interview panel and you were  then trained in the wards.   This method of training nurses worked perfectly well for decades and decades.   Prior to 1990, nurse education followed an apprentice type model.  The Project 2000 implemented by Thatchers reign took nurse training out of hospitals and into universities.

  It's not about being lazy.   It's about not having opportunity or the financial backing for many people.


Absolutely agree with you about nursing, and now the bastards have even taken away the burseries.

I feel quite strongly about the lack of opportunity for young people in this country. How now, the onus is on money and we are sending them out into the world up to their necks in debt before they've even started earning. It's disgusting.

Dani Ella Wynn, 18, from Wigan, applied to six universities to study nursing and midwifery and was rejected from every one.
"I'm only 18," she said. "I've always wanted to be a nurse and tried to get as much experience as I could. I've taken four A-levels but still no place."
Health Education England said national training places have increased.
The number of nurses coming to the UK from other parts of the EU has risen steadily during the past six years, making up the vast majority of new overseas recruits.
The number of foreign nurses coming from outside Europe has dropped.
The trend has been driven partly by the financial problems in countries like Spain and Portugal.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33692001/nursing-why-the-uk-has-so-many-foreign-nurses
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:12 am

Now they have taken away the burseries it can only get worse.   My grandson was accepted to uni but didn't go because he would end up with a debt of over £80,000.   We advised him to go and the money would only be taken when he earned enough, but he simply could not handle the thought of that debt hanging over his head.

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:40 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Average for the western world...?


Mass immigration is happening in many places in the western world...


To try to just call it 'average' as though it is anything other than mass immigration is pure leftie double speak spin waffle!!!


And ours is signifantly higher than yours
It's not the problem
people like YOU are the problem

You are barely 1.5% migration rate.
barely anything NOT even remotely in the relams of Mass migration.


http://focus-migration.hwwi.de/Country-Profiles.1349.0.html?&L=1


The United Kingdom became a country of immigration after the Second World War, following large-scale immigration from its former colonies. Events since the mid-1990s have undermined confidence both in the ability of the country to integrate visible minorities and in the efficacy of multicultural policies in doing so. Today, the United Kingdom is receiving more immigrants than at any point in its history. These new arrivals come at a time when the UK has not fully coped with the challenges thrown up by earlier waves in postwar migration. (Version from 12/2007)

not migrant, but the Failure of the Locals

Check out the other nations MOST handle it better than you. It is your failure


Your country is huge with a tiny population... our country is tiny with a relatively huge population... we are full and our infrastructure and public services are being stretched beyond capability... your country wants immigrants... this is what we in uk think...


http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKBREA0600F20140107


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