Lily Allen Causes a Twitter Furore after apologising for the whole of the British people

by HoratioTarr Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:07 pm

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'I'm sorry for what we've put you through': Lily Allen apologises 'on behalf of my country' after breaking down in tears during a visit to the Jungle in Calais

The 31-year-old singer broke down in tears at one point during a meeting with a boy aged 13 from Afghanistan, who has risked his life trying to board UK-bound lorries.
The teenager, who said his father lives in Birmingham, has been camped at the Jungle on the edge of the northern French port city for two months.
During their meeting, Allen told him: ‘It just seems that at three different intervals in this young boy’s life, the English in particular have put you in danger.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3834170/I-m-sorry-ve-Lily-Allen-apologises-behalf-country-breaking-tears-visit-Jungle-Calais.html

by Andy Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:11 pm

eddie wrote:If you buy the orange corner and the red corner on the monopoly board you will always win.

Don't say I don't give you anything.

I always go for the pink or the brown.

by HoratioTarr Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:11 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:I have a question about bob geldof, he said he would leave for good if the brexit won. Probably worth a few thousand votes for leave I know, question is, is he waiting for russell brand to shove the firework up his arse for the tories winning the election, or is he waiting for paul o'grady's spare room in venice to be finished?

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by eddie Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:12 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
eddie wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

Bagsie the Scottie dog

Damn! I always have the metal dog.

You can have the top hat

Okay! I look great in hats!

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:18 pm

Ziz wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

So why would anyone want to come here then? There must be at least one reason? Perhaps two?

Tickets for Ascot and Glynebourne?

if they can afford them then why not, not up to the taxpayer to pay for them though is it?

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:19 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
you mean you are in favour of people breaking the laws of the land?

How is offering support and advice breaking the law?

if it is telling people how to get into the uk illegally

by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:20 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

How is offering support and advice breaking the law?
if it is telling people how to get into the uk illegally

If it is, yes.

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:20 pm

Lord Foul wrote:I do agree upon one thing though...

we should never have gotten involved in the first place
and

we should withdraw immediately/stop supplying weapons (then sassy cant whinge about us bombing them)

and from the outset we should have left it to the russians (whos "sphere of influence" it was anyway)

do russia share a border with syria, if anything it would be turkeys sphere of influence

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:21 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
now you open a can of ~~worms~~ hypocrisy

All those Jewish refugees after all that suffering and with no place to go. Israel took them in and then.....well, then they rose up against the people who had been there in the first place and pinched their land off them. Fucking ingrates!

yes sneaky bastards too, burying their temples under all those Muslim ones.

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:23 pm

Ziz wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

What has his origins to do with speaking like a twat?

Nothing - but he does not speak for the "English" as suggested.

yet he attempted to influence the outcome of a uk referendum when he disparaged many british people.
I understand both he and eddie izzard have been brought in to run #jihadijez's 2020 election campaign.

by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:23 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Tickets for Ascot and Glynebourne?
if they can afford them then why not, not up to the taxpayer to pay for them though is it?

Does the taxpayer provide tickets for Glynebourne - they're doing Madama Butterfly now which I quite fancy - where do I apply? Lily Allen Causes a Twitter Furore after apologising for the whole of the British people - Page 3 2190311264

Lily Allen Causes a Twitter Furore after apologising for the whole of the British people - Page 3 2190311264

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:24 pm

Ziz wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

You guessed. My neighbour goes up the post office once a week for her Glynebourne handouts. I think you get about £20.70 for family Ascot.

I thought that migrants were a threat to our "culture" - but perhaps not.

migrants may not be, islamic fanatics most certainly are.

by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:24 pm

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:25 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
eddie wrote:

Damn! I always have the metal dog.

You can have the top hat

it would never fit on her unusually large head

by Victorismyhero Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:26 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:I do agree upon one thing though...

we should never have gotten involved in the first place
and

we should withdraw immediately/stop supplying weapons (then sassy cant whinge about us bombing them)

and from the outset we should have left it to the russians (whos "sphere of influence" it was anyway)
do rusia share a border with syria, if anything it would be turkeys sphere of influence

turkey aint a big enough player to HAVE a sphere of influence and syria has for years looked to russia for support......

by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:26 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

I thought that migrants were a threat to our "culture" - but perhaps not.
migrants may not be, islamic fanatics most certainly are.

Fanatics of any kind are not my cup of tea. Lily Allen Causes a Twitter Furore after apologising for the whole of the British people - Page 3 Kaffesmile

Lily Allen Causes a Twitter Furore after apologising for the whole of the British people - Page 3 Kaffesmile

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:27 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
if they can afford them then why not, not up to the taxpayer to pay for them though is it?

Does the taxpayer provide tickets for Glynebourne? They're doing Madama Butterfly now which I quite fancy - where do I apply?

I dont know I am not on benefits. You suggested it was why people are trying to get in from calais

by HoratioTarr Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:28 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

All those Jewish refugees after all that suffering and with no place to go. Israel took them in and then.....well, then they rose up against the people who had been there in the first place and pinched their land off them. Fucking ingrates!
yes sneaky bastards too, burying their temples under all those Muslim ones.

Just goes to show you can't trust anyone these days!

by eddie Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:28 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:
eddie wrote:

Damn! I always have the metal dog.

You can have the top hat
it would never fit on her unusually large head

It was photoshopped, that photo. Ask Tommy!

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:29 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
do rusia share a border with syria, if anything it would be turkeys sphere of influence

turkey aint a big enough player to HAVE a sphere of influence and syria has for years looked to russia for support......

surely as syria was once part of the ottomen empire turkey would have an interest. It is currently trying to revive the ottoman empire under bir dakika bey.

Yes russia has sold them arms and offered support for access to the med.

by HoratioTarr Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:29 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

You can have the top hat
it would never fit on her unusually large head

REPORTED !!!!!!!!!!! Lily Allen Causes a Twitter Furore after apologising for the whole of the British people - Page 3 859118666

by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:30 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Does the taxpayer provide tickets for Glynebourne? They're doing Madama Butterfly now which I quite fancy - where do I apply?
I dont know I am not on benefits. You suggested it was why people are trying to get in from calais

Oh well, I'll ask an expert next time then - but thanks anyway

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:30 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
migrants may not be, islamic fanatics most certainly are.

Fanatics of any kind are not my cup of tea.

but it does not need many of them to cause endless trouble. A few thousand almost took syria and iraq and they would not have stopped there.

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:32 pm

eddie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
it would never fit on her unusually large head

It was photoshopped, that photo. Ask Tommy!

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by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:32 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
it would never fit on her unusually large head

REPORTED !!!!!!!!!!!

and quite right too,

by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:33 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Fanatics of any kind are not my cup of tea.
but it does not need many of them to cause endless trouble. A few thousand almost took syria and iraq and they would not have stopped there.

True, it doesn't - I've been trying to get rid of the far-right for years.

by The Devil, You Know Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:59 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
but it does not need many of them to cause endless trouble. A few thousand almost took syria and iraq and they would not have stopped there.

True, it doesn't - I've been trying to get rid of the far-right for years.

the far right are not a threat to anyone. they stand no chance of being elected to a position of responsibility.
The far left have now taken over the opposition in the UK.

by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:07 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

True, it doesn't - I've been trying to get rid of the far-right for years.
the far right are not a threat to anyone. they stand no chance of being elected to a position of responsibility.
The far left have now taken over the opposition in the UK.

ISIS are far-right.

by HoratioTarr Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:32 am

The teenage refugee in Calais who Lily Allen apologised to 'on behalf of my country' thanked Britain yesterday for fighting the Taliban.

But Shamsher, who fled Afghanistan to avoid conscription by the Taliban, told the Daily Mail he was grateful to the British servicemen who had fought to try to rid his country of the Islamist insurgents.
He said: 'The British Government didn't make any problems for me in Afghanistan.'
Asked what he thought about British military attacks on the Taliban in the country, he beamed and said: 'I was happy.'

The son of a vegetable seller, Shamsher grew up in Jalalabad, the capital of the Nangarhar province in the East of Afghanistan, which is dominated by Taliban fighters. He said: 'My family were threatened many times by the Taliban.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3837129/Calais-teen-refugee-Lily-Allen-apologised-behalf-country-reveals-kidnapped-insurgents.html

by HoratioTarr Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:35 am

His says his father, Hazrat Gul Sherin, went on ahead of him to set up a home for the family, and now lives in Birmingham.
But in the chaos of escaping Afghanistan he said he lost contact with his whole family.

Er, if that was my child, I'd move heaven and earth to get him back to England. I'm wondering why his father isn't doing this, knowing he must be in that camp? Also, I'm wondering how his father just managed to swan into Britain so easily when others are having to wait for so long? Seems a bit odd.

by nicko Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:52 am

Fell off a lorry?

by Tommy Monk Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:03 pm

I saw a picture of some of these so called 'children' in the newspaper this morning... they all looked in their 20's...!

by The Devil, You Know Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:06 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
the far right are not a threat to anyone. they stand no chance of being elected to a position of responsibility.
The far left have now taken over the opposition in the UK.

ISIS are far-right.

daesh are islamic, although they do have a leftist command structure

by The Devil, You Know Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:08 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

True, it doesn't - I've been trying to get rid of the far-right for years.
the far right are not a threat to anyone. they stand no chance of being elected to a position of responsibility.
The far left have now taken over the opposition in the UK.

I though we were talking about the UK

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:08 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

ISIS are far-right.
daesh are islamic

And?

by Tommy Monk Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:09 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

I saw a picture of some of these so called 'children' in the newspaper this morning... they all looked in their 20's...!

These were a small group that had been given permission to cone here from callais and we're waiting for the eu to star... in the metro newspaper...

by The Devil, You Know Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:11 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
daesh are islamic

And?

nothing else, just pointing out your error. (again)

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:13 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

And?
nothing else, just pointing out your error. (again)

I have made no error - Isis, Isil, IS or Daesh (whatever you prefer) are far-right.

by The Devil, You Know Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:30 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
nothing else, just pointing out your error. (again)
I have made no error - Isis, Isil, IS or Daesh (whatever you prefer) are far-right.

except they are not

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:33 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:
I have made no error - Isis, Isil, IS or Daesh (whatever you prefer) are far-right.
except they are not

Depends on how one views those who seek authoritarianism and theocracy - I view them as far-right.

by eddie Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:58 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:
I have made no error - Isis, Isil, IS or Daesh (whatever you prefer) are far-right.
except they are not

Depends on how one views those who seek authoritarianism and theocracy - I view them as far-right.

Me too.

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:59 pm

eddie wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Depends on how one views those who seek authoritarianism and theocracy - I view them as far-right.

Me too.

Most people without a flag to fly do I imagine.

by The Devil, You Know Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:12 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
except they are not

Depends on how one views those who seek authoritarianism and theocracy - I view them as far-right.

authoritarian regimes are often left.
But to go back you want to get rid of islam then?

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:19 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Depends on how one views those who seek authoritarianism and theocracy - I view them as far-right.
authoritarian regimes are often left.
But to go back you want to get rid of islam then?

Don't know many theocratic left-wing regimes though.

No, I'm not for "getting rid of" Islam.

by The Devil, You Know Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:31 pm

Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
authoritarian regimes are often left.
But to go back you want to get rid of islam then?

Don't know many theocratic left-wing regimes though.

No, I'm not for "getting rid of" Islam.

so you assertion you want to get rid of the far right is just hot air?

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:43 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:

Don't know many theocratic left-wing regimes though.

No, I'm not for "getting rid of" Islam.
so you assertion you want to get rid of the far right is just hot air?

But I didn't assert that Islam was far-right. scratch

by Ben Reilly Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:17 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
nothing else, just pointing out your error. (again)
I have made no error - Isis, Isil, IS or Daesh (whatever you prefer) are far-right.
except they are not

Of course they are! They're quite anti-feminist and anti-gay, they don't believe in freedom of expression, freedom of religion, multiculturalism, pacifism, representative democracy, or any of the other hallmarks of left-wing ideology.

by Victorismyhero Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:26 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
Ziz wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
nothing else, just pointing out your error. (again)
I have made no error - Isis, Isil, IS or Daesh (whatever you prefer) are far-right.
except they are not

Of course they are! They're quite anti-feminist and anti-gay, they don't believe in freedom of expression, freedom of religion, multiculturalism, pacifism, representative democracy, or any of the other hallmarks of left-wing ideology.

erm may I point out that both stalin and the legacy therof and the stifleing regime in china are/were "left"

may I point out that pol pot was "left"

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:30 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

Of course they are! They're quite anti-feminist and anti-gay, they don't believe in freedom of expression, freedom of religion, multiculturalism, pacifism, representative democracy, or any of the other hallmarks of left-wing ideology.

erm may I point out that both stalin and the legacy therof and the stifleing regime in china are/were "left"

may I point out that pol pot was "left"

But not theocracies.

by Victorismyhero Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:40 pm

Ziz wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

Of course they are! They're quite anti-feminist and anti-gay, they don't believe in freedom of expression, freedom of religion, multiculturalism, pacifism, representative democracy, or any of the other hallmarks of left-wing ideology.

erm may I point out that both stalin and the legacy therof and the stifleing regime in china are/were "left"

may I point out that pol pot was "left"

But not theocracies.

That is debateable since they all (as indeed did nazism) build on a "cult " of a charismatic and or revered/feared leader

this is a long running argument I have here

see some idiots here consider me to be essentially R/W they are however wrong

I am socialist first and foremost...but also nationalist...which I guess makes me a national socialist (?????????????)
now does that make me a nazi...

nope...see nazism was a "cult of HITLER"

(and besides hitlers idea of "socialism" wasnt actually "socialism" either although at least in the beginning he did seek to better the lot off the "common man" somewhat more so than what went before)

it would have been better labled "hitlerism"

OR by the same token I am at liberty to label every outright lefty here a "stalinist"

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:44 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Ziz wrote:

But not theocracies.

That is debateable since they all (as indeed did nazism) build on a "cult " of a charismatic and or revered/feared leader

this is a long running argument I have here

see some idiots here consider me to be essentially R/W they are however wrong

I am socialist first and foremost...but also nationalist...which I guess makes me a national socialist (?????????????)
now does that make me a nazi...

nope...see nazism was a "cult of HITLER"

(and besides hitlers idea of "socialism" wasnt actually "socialism" either although at least in the beginning he did seek to better the lot off the "common man" somewhat more so than what went before)

it would have been better labled "hitlerism"

OR by the same token I am at liberty to label every outright lefty here a "stalinist"

Not debatable at all - no gods involved.

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