Global warming

First topic message reminder :

He is a chart that even a climate changing denying dullard like Tom can understand.

https://xkcd.com/1732/

When did Tommy say the earth was flat?

Handy Andy wrote:So the Professor of Cimatology at Reading University was interviewed on LBC yesterday explaining why the warmer trend in weather this century is a result of man's interference  by way of carbon emissions, the ozone hole was a liar.?
Who is better qualified?
An expert university Professor specialising in climatology and meteorology or
Tom. A dolt who thinks the earth is flat and the reductions in polar ice are a result of the hot air from the mouths of those who insist climate change is happening.

And absolutely nothing to do with the increased solar activity...!?

And the Thames freezing over 250 years ago was nothing you do with low levels of solar activity...!?



How big was the ozone hole 50 years ago...?

How about compared to100 years ago...?

Or 200 years ago...?

I trust a unt professors  intellect over yours Tom.
Come to that, my pet westie dog shows more brains than you too.

Just discovered that Tom and his chums are putting the human race in peril.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/scientists-earth-endangered-by-new-strain-of-fact-resistant-humans

Some people will believe anything a man in a white coat says...


I have posted the facts... check them out for yourself and use your own brain... if you can find it that is...

Oh... and one more thing... you do know that sunlight creates ozone in the atmosphere...?


And down by the south Pole there simply isn't enough sunlight to create the ozone...?


Hence the 'hole'...!

Tommy Monk wrote:Oh... and one more thing... you do know that sunlight creates ozone in the atmosphere...?


And down by the south Pole there simply isn't enough sunlight to create the ozone...?


Hence the 'hole'...!

Just another aspect of the denial you wrap yourself in!

"...Ozone forms readily in the stratosphere as incoming ultraviolet radiation breaks molecular oxygen (two atoms) into atomic oxygen (a single atom). ... Destruction of ozone in the stratosphere takes place as quickly as formation of ozone, because the chemical is so reactive..."



The Antarctic doesn't get a lot of sun... so it doesn't get a lot of ozone made over it...

The only ones denying global warming are the industries that gain from polluting this planet and their minions paid to be skeptics despite the facts.

All I tell is the truth...

Tommy Monk wrote:

All I tell is the truth...

Only the truth you've been brainwashed into believing, and you'll believe those you consider your betters every time, because they play into your own "little englander" prejudices.

Always try and reverse what you've been told, that would take you much closer to the truth.

My beliefs are from independent thought and scientific facts!!!


I have posted the facts on this thread and elsewhere on others.

Tommy Monk wrote:

My beliefs are from independent thought and scientific facts!!!


I have posted the facts on this thread and elsewhere on others.

No you're just a common or garden racist fascist, your thoughts are not your own, you've been restricted and manipulated by the spin of big business and the Nazi worshipping daily mail.

You and special Eds display these traits most clearly, still as you're a minority you do add variety to life and as such you do provide some entertainment.

Why have you brought me into this?

Scrat... it is the brainwashed who see the facts I post and check them out to be true, but are then still unable to think for themselves and come to the clear and obvious conclusions!!!


They instead keep bleating out their brainwashed bullshit.


Look at the facts I post... these are official figures and statistics and historical facts!!!


Then THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!


WAKE UP SCRAT!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/08/greenpeace-exposes-sceptics-cast-doubt-climate-science

scrat wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

My beliefs are from independent thought and scientific facts!!!


I have posted the facts on this thread and elsewhere on others.

No you're just a common or garden racist fascist, your thoughts are not your own, you've been restricted and manipulated by the spin of big business and the Nazi worshipping daily mail.

You and special Eds display these traits most clearly, still as you're a minority you do add variety to life and as such you do provide some entertainment.

Again, why have you brought me into this?

scrat wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:
My beliefs are from independent thought and scientific facts!!!

I have posted the facts on this thread and elsewhere on others.

No you're just a common or garden racist fascist, your thoughts are not your own, you've been restricted and manipulated by the spin of big business and the Nazi worshipping daily mail.

......

THERE are zero "facts" involved in Tommy's whacky beliefs.
On the contrary, when Tommy tries to present some cherry-picked fact as part of his claims, they usually contradict the rubbish that he's actually claiming..

Tommy keeps on proving that he is by far the most stupid and ignorant dolt on this forum.  So every time he says that he has science or maths on his side -- two central and basic subjects that he obviously knows less-than-zero about --  we know that he's starting off on yet another round of distracting and misleading c&p'd total bullshite.        

Prove it wolfboy...!!!???


Why don't you post up what I have said that is wrong...???


Should be easy for you if I've said so much and it's all wrong...???


Come on...???


I bet you can't...!!!

Ben Reilly wrote:

I was just going to mention how the earths climate has been changing for millions of years so this is nothing but may be the very first stages
to new warming of the globe and wipe out a few more animal species like the Polar bear and most of us but some things always survive in remote
parts of the world.

Look at the claimed +/- degrees centigrade temperature scale at the top of comic picture...


It was much colder than claimed during the recent cold period known as 'the mini ice age'...


Also... why have they drawn their claimed 'average' line based on average temp between 1961-1990...?


Surely if you are going to show a collection of claimed temperature data then your 'average' line should be based on the average of all the data you are claiming...!?

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

scrat wrote:
No you're just a common or garden racist fascist, your thoughts are not your own, you've been restricted and manipulated by the spin of big business and the Nazi worshipping daily mail.

......

THERE are zero "facts" involved in Tommy's whacky beliefs.
On the contrary, when Tommy tries to present some cherry-picked fact as part of his claims, they usually contradict the rubbish that he's actually claiming..

Tommy keeps on proving that he is by far the most stupid and ignorant dolt on this forum.  So every time he says that he has science or maths on his side -- two central and basic subjects that he obviously knows less-than-zero about --  we know that he's starting off on yet another round of distracting and misleading c&p'd total bullshite.        

Prove it wolfboy...!!!???


Why don't you post up what I have said that is wrong...???


Should be easy for you if I've said so much and it's all wrong...???


Come on...???


I bet you can't...!!!











Still waiting...!?

Just heard nick Abbot on LBC saying that we need to have mass immigration because of 'climate change' and that it is just 'too hot' for all those 3rd world people to live where they are and they must all come here instead...!!!








And if you wondered why the 'climate change' bullshit is being peddled... there we have it...!!!

Then he said that they are all going to be coming anyway, and we can't stop it...!!!


And then he was saying how important it is for us to be in the eu...!!!

It does not surprise me that far right extremists like Thomas are also in denial over climate change it fits the pattern of denial that preoccupies their lives.

Banks cause the financial crisis, introduce austerity and blame the poor.

Muslims are causing all the violence, bomb them some more.

Greedy Industries are causing global warming, blame the scientists for discovering that fact.

And then you've got the effects of all these causes

Why do the poor need greater health care because of austerity

Why are their so many migrants because we're bombing the fuck out of them

Why can't we drink the water because fracking pollutes the ground water, etc etc etc.

You got the questions and the answers, but racist fascists like Thomas will continue to deny this because the answers aren't the answers he wants to hear.

When one bit of waffle isn't enough... conflate a few bits of waffle together... and there you have a leftie sixhirb style cluster bomb...

You live in a looping time warp 1997-2010, outside of that its nothing but denial, you're the worse type of racist fascist you're a cowardly racist fascist you're even in denial of that.

Let's be honest here Thomas, if you had the strength of character to actually believe in the racist fascist garbage you spout you'd at least have the sense of conviction.

Sadly your cowardice outweighs all of that.

You are the fascist scrat... you leftie UAF thug types want to impose big state and state control over everything and everyonel by force... that is the definition of fascism!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:


THERE are zero "facts" involved in Tommy's whacky beliefs.
On the contrary, when Tommy tries to present some cherry-picked fact as part of his claims, they usually contradict the rubbish that he's actually claiming..

Tommy keeps on proving that he is by far the most stupid and ignorant dolt on this forum.  So every time he says that he has science or maths on his side -- two central and basic subjects that he obviously knows less-than-zero about --  we know that he's starting off on yet another round of distracting and misleading c&p'd total bullshite.        

Prove it wolfboy...!!!???


Why don't you post up what I have said that is wrong...???


Should be easy for you if I've said so much and it's all wrong...???


Come on...???


I bet you can't...!!!











Still waiting...!?

Well...!?


Still nothing wolfboy...???

Tommy Monk wrote:

You are the fascist scrat... you leftie UAF thug types want to impose big state and state control over everything and everyonel by force... that is the definition of fascism!!!

Again you expose your own stupidly, it is the state imposing fracking, it is big business that controls everyone and everything by force.

You live in complete denial of the reality, you will do your masters bidding till the bitter end, and when you finally discover this, it will be too late!

When did I ever say I was in favour of fracking...?


And I don't remember ever being frog marched into a branch of Greggs and forced to buy a cream apple Danish...!

You said it was the left imposing big state control, but it's the government imposing fracking on behalf of big business and big business that's imposing control.

Like I said you must live in some alternative reality, have you never asked yourself why big business pays certain individuals to act as skeptics and smear scientists, why do they do that?

When did I say I was in favour of fracking...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:

When did I say I was in favour of fracking...!?

I know you wish to deflect because you're a bit thick, most knuckle dragging fascist are that way inclined, but you said the left were imposing control, it is the government imposing fracking and control.

Now, again I ask you as you've been brainwashed into punting out government lies, and smearing for big business, why do you think you're being manipulated to attempt to mislead and smear the science behind all of this?

Allowing a bit of gas extraction is a bit different to the imposition of big state and big state control I was talking about scat...


Oil/gas/coal extraction has been going on for a lot longer than since 2010 you cretin... and coal extraction is particularly dangerous and polluting... but you're always bleating about how the coal mines should have kept going!!!



The hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds...!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:


THERE are zero "facts" involved in Tommy's whacky beliefs.
On the contrary, when Tommy tries to present some cherry-picked fact as part of his claims, they usually contradict the rubbish that he's actually claiming..

Tommy keeps on proving that he is by far the most stupid and ignorant dolt on this forum.  So every time he says that he has science or maths on his side -- two central and basic subjects that he obviously knows less-than-zero about --  we know that he's starting off on yet another round of distracting and misleading c&p'd total bullshite.        

Prove it wolfboy...!!!???


Why don't you post up what I have said that is wrong...???


Should be easy for you if I've said so much and it's all wrong...???


Come on...???


I bet you can't...!!!











Still waiting...!?

You got any proof of anything I've said that's wrong yet wolftwat...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:

Allowing a bit of gas extraction is a bit different to the imposition of big state and big state control I was talking about scat...


Oil/gas/coal extraction has been going on for a lot longer than since 2010 you cretin... and coal extraction is particularly dangerous and polluting... but you're always bleating about how the coal mines should have kept going!!!



The hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds...!!!

So now fracking is simply extracting a little bit of gas, polluting our countryside and poisoning our ground water is nothing compared to the profits than can be made, once again you expose your anti British credentials,,,,,but hold on you said it was the left imposing state control?

Who is imposing fracking and trying to bribe landowners to accept it?

Should have polluting coal mining going on instead eh scat...?

Fracking has been going for some time in different places, but we don't know where.

Tommy Monk wrote:

When did I ever say I was in favour of fracking...?


And I don't remember ever being frog marched into a branch of Greggs and forced to buy a cream apple Danish...!

You two should get together as a stage act lol.

nicko wrote:
Fracking has been going for some time in different places,   but we don't know where.

IT IS known where it goes on in different parts of the world..
Especially in parts of the USA ans Australi..

And because it is a higher environmental risk activity, compared with many other types of comparatively low impact forms of mining, it is also widely known what happens when things go wrong -- as has happened in both parts of the USA and in Queensland..

Much harder to hide, then it may be in the back blocks of some third world or poverty stricken nation.

It is also quite eroneous and plain stupid, though not exactly unexpected, to see that moron Tommy Monk attempting to compare Fracking with Coal mining --when both the sources of dangers, and the different pathways to pollution, from the two separate industries, are so different in both cause and effect.

Basically, Tommy is attempting to play on some people's ignorance -- unfortunately for him, he obviously clearly knows little about either industry, himself..        

Wrong again wolfbreath...


I know a bit more about fracking and coal mining than you think!


And my point to scrat was also a lot more cleverly calculated and targeted than you do me credit for...


But... besides that... have you managed to find any post of mine that is factually or scientifically wrong yet, to back up your claims about me...!?

Any British citizen caught supporting fracking should be tried for treason, if found guilty they should be dragged to the stocks for a damn fine pelting, they should then be cattle trucked to Luton Airport, have their passports incinerated on the runway and combat dropped into some US fracking hellhole.

scrat wrote:Any British citizen caught supporting fracking should be tried for treason, if found guilty they should be dragged to the stocks for a damn fine pelting, they should then be cattle trucked to Luton Airport, have their passports incinerated on the runway and combat dropped into some US fracking hellhole.

... says the violent leftie nationalist socialist...!!!

Thomas the anti British worker (wants to pay nationalised European rail workers from our taxes) Thomas the anti British fracker (wants to destroy our beautiful island and pay American petrochemical concerns for this privilege) Thomas the anti British hate monger (hates everyone from all ethnicities that make Britain its multicultural success other than demented little englander Nazi clones)

Thomas simply hates Britain, why don't you and your far right extremist buddies fuck off to noddy land you're not wanted here.

It's you lefties who shafted the British workers with your pro mass immigration and pro eu policies and pro eu law having supremacy over British law... plus you lefties also legislated for the break up of the United Kingdom with your splitting up of the uk with your acts of devolution... just as the eu wanted... you treacherous eu whore...!!!



And you have the cheek to suggest others are traitors to the UK...!!!???

I do notice Tommy, that some posters accuse you of all sorts but never return to back up what they accuse you of.
I don't think I'm the only one who's noticed.

Mass immigration now is it, well we've had over six years of tory rule and immigration has never been higher, so what went wrong there?

As to the EU and break up of the U.K., it was a Tory government that took us into the EU and a Tory government with the assistance of the racist fascist UKIP that took us out, so what went wrong there?

But this thread is about global warming, something you're in complete denial about, you even tried to blame the left for that, but it's a Tory government that rides roughshod over our countryside demanding that fracking take place, blackmailing landowners so they can rape our land and pollute are water for a few dollars of profit, regardless of the consequences.

And now you're looking for someone to blame, you can't blame #Dodgydave he's gone, you can't blame BoJo the fucking idiot he's gone, you can't blame fascist fraggle farage he's gone, and because everyone who's left a trail of debris has gone, all you can do is blame the left.

Like I said, if you don't like multicultural societies, you don't like the modern world and you hate Britain that much you're happy to see it raped for a few bob, fuck off somewhere else.

Morning Scat, still churning out your hate filled posts I see.

Be carefull you don't go over the top and lose it as you did on Flap.

You wouldn't want to be banned from here as well, would you?

nicko wrote:Morning Scat,   still churning out your hate filled posts I see.

Be carefull you don't go over the top and lose it as you did on Flap.

You wouldn't want to be banned from here as well,    would you?

Good morning Penflod, I'm not banned from flap, I will not return there until a level playing field is restored and I never lose it, I don't do meltdowns nor hissy fits, I'm capable of holding my own with my words, it's just some folk don't like the truth and you know that these very same folk hate the truth up em more than anything else.

Thomas must face his own anti British prejudice, all I can offer him are the facts, if that gets me banned, Ho hum!

Syl wrote:Bloody global warming, not in Manchester.
I flew round doing everything that had to be done earlier, it was scorchio....now I can relax in the garden it's gone all dull and cloudy.....so much for the heatwave we were promised.

There was a heatwave here - yet again. Thank goodness it's gone now - the people I work with are rejoicing. It's not so bad if you have nothing to do I guess.