global warming

nicko wrote:NASA has admitted that they may be only 38% right in saying 2014 was the warmest year!

From the DAILY MAIL today!

nicko wrote:Explain!

nicko wrote:Well it does disprove 68%   of it.    Ben, there may be an increase in Global Warming but I am not sure we are causing it.  It has been said many times that the Earth goes through periods of hot and cold that are naturally occurring.Why can't this be the case now?.  Earth went through these periods many times in the last millions of years and there weren't humans around then.  

nicko wrote:why don't you just shut the fuck up,   your gob is bigger than your boots.

darknessss wrote:Ben????? whats with "request timed out"?????????????

darknessss wrote:
ok
now wolfie boy...when are you goinf to actually contribute something of value to a thread..instead of merely attacking in a totally unjustified manner ...another poster?

darknessss wrote:
ok
now wolfie boy...when are you goinf to actually contribute something of value to a thread..instead of merely attacking in a totally unjustified manner ...another poster?

THE VERY FACT that the Ciimate Change 'denialists'/Ciimate 'Sceptics' movement was created, funded and organised by lobbyists, shareholders and other assorted apologists for the coal mining-Big Oil-energy sectors, is enough in and of itself to convince me to believe in the greater majority of worries and warnings coming from the greater majority [>97%] of the world's climatologists, oceanographers and associated environmental scientists, rather than a few self-serving "corporate shills"...

I ALSO take the position that there is no great "downside" to making all contributing industries, corporations and countries 'clean up their act' sooner, rather than later (and "pay their fair share" in the process)..

AFTER ALL, if the climatologists have 'got it wrong' then no harm is done ~ as all of that pollution is way overdue for 'fixing' anyways ~ while if they are correct, then the time to start acting has already gone.

Lone Wolf wrote:

TYPICAL BRAINDEAD "non-answers" from nicko and Victor  ==>  ALL that those two vacuous fuckwits can do now is keep on repeating their insipid attacks on me  ==> typical fossil fuel apologists' claptrap...

     'The Saga of nicko, that idiot lapdog "Corporation Shill" :

       

           

         

FELLOW 'denialist' Victor jumps to nicko' defence :


                 

PR watch wrote:
" The Heartland Institute's president, Joseph Bast, has claimed there was "no global warming trend" but alternatively asserted that if it were to get hotter, global warming "would be beneficial to the natural world and to human civilization." His colleague, James Taylor, has made similar climate change denialist claims.

For tonight's episode of the Showtime series, subtitled “Against the Wind,” actress America Ferrera interviewed Taylor and separately interviewed CMD/The Progressive Inc.'s president, Lisa Graves, and DeSmog Blog's founder Brendan DeMelle.

Ferrera serves as a correspondent for the Showtime series, and she also interviews a farmer affected by the droughts that have deepened as our climate has changed, traveling to the actual heartland, as opposed to the Heartland Institute, a shadowy non-profit that invokes the heartland but that is actually located amid high-priced skyscrapers in downtown Chicago."

- See more at: http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/05/12483/showtime-exposes-climate-change-deniers-joseph-bast-and-heartland-institute#sthash.FteC0aMC.dpuf

The Guardian wrote:
" The Daily Mail, much loved for its objective reporting on climate change (and other stuff), declared: 'Climate change scientist claims he has been forced from new job in "McCarthy"-style witch-hunt by academics across the world.'

These stories were quoted approvingly by the Wall Street Journal's James Taranto as "the latest reason to distrust the authority of 'consensus' climate scientists."

But even a cursory glance reveals how thin these stories are.

The latest climate denialist outburst hinges on one man - Prof Lennart Bengtsson of the University of Reading. According to the Mail and The Times, a paper submitted by Bengtsson to Environmental Research Letters, was rejected by the journal not because it was bad science, but because of political "intolerance of dissenting views on climate science" among climate scientists.

The paper purported to challenge the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) projections that global average temperatures could rise by more than 4 degrees Celsius by end of century, claiming that the climate was much less sensitive to carbon dioxide emissions than widely understood.

Bengtsson also complained that he had been bullied by climate scientists "all over the world" after he joined the notorious 'sceptic' think tank, the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), causing him to resign. The letter was published two days ago on the GWPF website as a press release:

"I have been put under such an enormous group pressure in recent days from all over the world that has become virtually unbearable to me. If this is going to continue I will be unable to conduct my normal work and will even start to worry about my health and safety. I see therefore no other way out therefore than resigning from GWPF. I had not expecting such an enormous world-wide pressure put at me from a community that I have been close to all my active life. Colleagues are withdrawing their support, other colleagues are withdrawing from joint authorship etc.

I see no limit and end to what will happen. It is a situation that reminds me about the time of McCarthy. I would never have expecting anything similar in such an original peaceful community as meteorology."

Contradicting this, however, in an apparent effort to pretend that the scientific community actually agrees with Bengtsson's claims about climate change, The Times story also reports: "Scientists from around the world sent messages of support to Professor Bengtsson."

Read more @ http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/may/16/murdoch-media-hypes-lone-climate-denial-big-oil

Media Matters wrote:
" Despite the overwhelming consensus among climate experts that human activity is contributing to rising global temperatures, 66 percent of Americans incorrectly believe there is "a lot of disagreement among scientists about whether or not global warming is happening." The conservative media has fueled this confusion by distorting scientific research, hyping faux-scandals, and giving voice to groups funded by industries that have a financial interest in blocking action on climate change. Meanwhile, mainstream media outlets have shied away from the "controversy" over climate change and have failed to press U.S. policymakers on how they will address this global threat. When climate change is discussed, mainstream outlets sometimes strive for a false balance that elevates marginal voices and enables them to sow doubt about the science even in the face of mounting evidence."

Read more @ http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/28/meet-the-climate-denial-machine/191545

darknessss wrote:Now didn't I just say on another thread that THIS is exactly what the village pig would do....

claim I attack him....

who started on who I have to ask ...eh wolfie boy.....

if you dont like the heat dont stray into hells kitchen...

keyboard warrior....