David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point?

by eddie Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

He mentions Mr Obama at the end - but I'm not really interested in that.
I am interested in what people truly make of his impression of Mrs Obama and her past occupational doings...

It's not a long clip

by Guest Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:36 pm

Absolutely true, I just don't get it.

by Tommy Monk Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:41 pm

The survey gave voice to women ranging in age from 20s to 60s, and with educational attainment of high school diploma/GED to PhD. With such vast differences in demographics, it was interesting to see the trends that emerged: optimism, relatability, and “realness.”

When asked to rate (on a scale of ‘strongly disagree’ to ‘strongly agree’) various statements about the First Lady and why they relate to her, the following were the most consistently agreed or strongly agreed upon:

· 88% said she has made them (more) optimistic about the future of Black/African-American women.

· 82% said that because of her, other races/nationalities perceive Black/African-American women in a more favorable light.

They relate to her because:
· 92% – she’s Black.
· 96% – she’s stylish.
· 98% – she’s no-nonsense.
· 98% – she’s not afraid to speak her mind.
· 98% – she can go from the White House to a cookout and not miss a step.
· 96% – in her they see all the things that are possible for themselves.
· 96% – in her they see all the things that are possible for Black/African-American girls and teens.
· 90% – in her they see all the things that are possible for Black/African-American women.

In the words of 37-year-old Nikki F. from Chicago, Il (Mrs. Obama’s hometown), “She represents everything our [Black girls] parents taught us that we could be.”

by Syl Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:51 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

The survey gave voice to women ranging in age from 20s to 60s, and with educational attainment of high school diploma/GED to PhD. With such vast differences in demographics, it was interesting to see the trends that emerged: optimism, relatability, and “realness.”

When asked to rate (on a scale of ‘strongly disagree’ to ‘strongly agree’) various statements about the First Lady and why they relate to her, the following were the most consistently agreed or strongly agreed upon:

· 88% said she has made them (more) optimistic about the future of Black/African-American women.

· 82% said that because of her, other races/nationalities perceive Black/African-American women in a more favorable light.

They relate to her because:
· 92% – she’s Black.
· 96% – she’s stylish.
· 98% – she’s no-nonsense.
· 98% – she’s not afraid to speak her mind.
· 98% – she can go from the White House to a cookout and not miss a step.
· 96% – in her they see all the things that are possible for themselves.
· 96% – in her they see all the things that are possible for Black/African-American girls and teens.
· 90% – in her they see all the things that are possible for Black/African-American women.

In the words of 37-year-old Nikki F. from Chicago, Il (Mrs. Obama’s hometown), “She represents everything our [Black girls] parents taught us that we could be.”

So whats not to love about her?
I think it's hard for a white woman living in the UK to relate to a black woman living in the US......but maybe she is the first intelligent black role model they have had recently who inspires them....though I think Oprah did a good job for the generation before them.

by Tommy Monk Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:56 pm

Judging on looks is ok now...?

by Syl Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:00 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Judging on looks is ok now...?

She was judged (in that survey) more on her demeanour and the way she inspires other women.

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:47 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
The survey gave voice to women ranging in age from 20s to 60s, and with educational attainment of high school diploma/GED to PhD. With such vast differences in demographics, it was interesting to see the trends that emerged: optimism, relatability, and “realness.”

When asked to rate (on a scale of ‘strongly disagree’ to ‘strongly agree’) various statements about the First Lady and why they relate to her, the following were the most consistently agreed or strongly agreed upon:

· 88% said she has made them (more) optimistic about the future of Black/African-American women.

· 82% said that because of her, other races/nationalities perceive Black/African-American women in a more favorable light.
They relate to her because:
· 92% – she’s Black.
· 96% – she’s stylish.
· 98% – she’s no-nonsense.
· 98% – she’s not afraid to speak her mind.
· 98% – she can go from the White House to a cookout and not miss a step.
· 96% – in her they see all the things that are possible for themselves.
· 96% – in her they see all the things that are possible for Black/African-American girls and teens.
· 90% – in her they see all the things that are possible for Black/African-American women.
In the words of 37-year-old Nikki F. from Chicago, Il (Mrs. Obama’s hometown), “She represents everything our [Black girls] parents taught us that we could be.”

And here I was thinking, that you'd finally read something and had a CLUE about the post because you'd clipped part of it out and left it lay - {without comment} but you'd at least clipped a most important part!

And then you follow up with this >

Tommy Monk wrote: wrote: Judging on looks is ok now...?

David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 2387050134

INDEED, that's exactly ...so astute of you to have ferreted that hidden gem out and posted it for all of us confused adults that had no idea that the intent for that clearly - well written - informative - brilliant - uplifting article was just about FLOTUS appearance! David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 1363015401

David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 1363015401

by Irn Bru Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:54 am

I think Mechelle Obama is a wonnderful person who is simply gorgeous. Check out her 'Let's Move' initative to try and introduce a healthier lifestyle particulary for children.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/first-lady-michelle-obama-launches-lets-move-americas-move-raise-a-healthier-genera

She resigned her position on the board of the food company in 2007 prior to Barak Obama being elected president.

by Syl Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:09 am

Irn Bru wrote:I think Mechelle Obama is a wonnderful person who is simply gorgeous. Check out her 'Let's Move' initative to try and introduce a healthier lifestyle particulary for children.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/first-lady-michelle-obama-launches-lets-move-americas-move-raise-a-healthier-genera

She resigned her position on the board of the food company in 2007 prior to Barak Obama being elected president.

Well said...and I think you have very good taste when it comes to ladies Irn....
I have seen you give Eddie and me compliments in the past, so this has formed my opinion on your superior views of us womenfolk. Razz

by JulesV Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:41 am

Tommy Monk wrote: Behind Mrs Obama... why is there that large slab of wood on the floor...?

Well it's a long story, but the carpenter tried his hardest to create a table top which floated in the air, with no visible means of support, oblivious to gravitational forces, but he gave up in the end and made a proper base to support it, which explains the presence of the large slab of wood.

I did warn you it was a long story! Razz

by JulesV Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:50 am

David Icke just loves to share his conversations with the voices in his head, bless.

Michelle Obama has not put a foot wrong in 8 years as flotus and she raised her kids very well. There are so many negative things one could say about the behaviour of kids of presidents and prime ministers on both sides of the Atlantic starting with Thatcher's pair of under-achieving flops.

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:09 am

Jules wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote: Behind Mrs Obama... why is there that large slab of wood on the floor...?

Well it's a long story, but the carpenter tried his hardest to create a table top which floated in the air, with no visible means of support, oblivious to gravitational forces, but he gave up in the end and made a proper base to support it, which explains the presence of the large slab of wood.

I did warn you it was a long story!

~~~ U ROCK ~~~ I like your style!

David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 Secret-handshake-smiley-emoticon

** SNARKY PEOPLE UNITE **

by Original Quill Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:42 am

You forgot the greenie, 4Eva. No matter, I filled in the blank.

I laughed as I read. And Irn, I couldn't agree more. That is one nearly perfect, classy Flotus. But, WTH, let's let it all out. He is without question the best president that the US has ever had. Personable, intelligent, crafty, with a sense of history...perfect.

If I had any criticism, it would be that he let Repuglicans cow him at first. I think he was operating under the assumption that they would play in the sandbox like they would with a white adversary. He needed to learn...racism does not play fair.

He's learned, regained his even keel, and now we can appreciate him as the greatest president of all time. And why wouldn't he end up with the perfect Flotus?

Some people ask the dumbest questions! Wink

by Tommy Monk Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:46 am

Syl wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Judging on looks is ok now...?

She was judged (in that survey) more on her demeanour and the way she inspires other women.

And on looking... BLACK!

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:49 am

Syl wrote:Re looks....it's inevitable that a woman in the public eye has her looks judged in a way that men never do.
Theresa Mays appearance has come in for some real criticism just as Michelle Obama's has.
Odd how pug ugly men can sail through their political careers and no one ever comments on their shoes or rate their facial attractiveness as being found wanting.

Oh do shut up sassy and Syl. Trump has been completely slagged off for his looks as has Farage and Cameron.....

Stop being so overly-sensitive! She's not feminine at all and looks like a man in drag and I would bet most men on here (apart from quill of course) don't find her attractive (though not ONE has the actual balls to admit it) - but you've made it about that and I am not bothered how she looks anyway, it was a throwaway remark by me because some one brought up the transgender thing!

Hell, I don't even dislike her but I'm also not so totally brainwashed and brainfucked by glossy media that paints her as pure as the driven snow either.

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:51 am

Syl wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:I think Mechelle Obama is a wonnderful person who is simply gorgeous. Check out her 'Let's Move' initative to try and introduce a healthier lifestyle particulary for children.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/first-lady-michelle-obama-launches-lets-move-americas-move-raise-a-healthier-genera

She resigned her position on the board of the food company in 2007 prior to Barak Obama being elected president.

Well said...and I think you have very good taste when it comes to ladies Irn....
I have seen you give Eddie and me compliments in the past, so this has formed my opinion on your superior views of us womenfolk.

Hahahahah you creep Laughing

by Tommy Monk Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:02 am

Jules wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote: Behind Mrs Obama... why is there that large slab of wood on the floor...?

Well it's a long story, but the carpenter tried his hardest to create a table top which floated in the air, with no visible means of support, oblivious to gravitational forces, but he gave up in the end and made a proper base to support it, which explains the presence of the large slab of wood.

I did warn you it was a long story!

The pic was edited... sassy posted up a video of the meeting and at no point did they all stand in the positions shown in picture!!!

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:04 am

Tommy, he thought he had woke us
When he started his Hocus Pocus
He zoomed in on pics
And got in a fix
When he found they were all out of focus

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:27 am

eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:Re looks....it's inevitable that a woman in the public eye has her looks judged in a way that men never do.
Theresa Mays appearance has come in for some real criticism just as Michelle Obama's has.
Odd how pug ugly men can sail through their political careers and no one ever comments on their shoes or rate their facial attractiveness as being found wanting.
Oh do shut up sassy and Syl. Trump has been completely slagged off for his looks as has Farage and Cameron.....
Stop being so overly-sensitive! She's not feminine at all and looks like a man in drag and I would bet most men on here (apart from quill of course) don't find her attractive (though not ONE has the actual balls to admit it) - but you've made it about that and I am not bothered how she looks anyway, it was a throwaway remark by me because some one brought up the transgender thing!
Hell, I don't even dislike her but I'm also not so totally brainwashed and brainfucked by glossy media that paints her as pure as the driven snow either.

Interesting ...you clearly take a classly/ highly educated/ gorgeous female - that our ugly R-winged redneck world has eviscerated in their most heinous ability behind their laptops & PC and hooked up with those lesser thinking humans (those folks are racists and will die that way) because "your NOT brainwashed or brainfucked" by the media - relieved

your just being utterly crude and vile to your very own gender because it's a COOL THING TO DO.

Maybe Subjective - taking an instant dislike to this public figure because by no fault of her own she's A PUBLIC FIGURE BECAUSE OF THE MAN SHE'S MARRIED too.
WOW - what glossy media have you read '?' when the only item you brought in here were the 'trash blogs' that supported your MEAN GIRL OPINION?
David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 859118666

David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 859118666

That's for taking 'MY' gender back 50 years, I hope your daughter never - ever wants to run for public office ...some well meaning human may return the same sentiment and judge her by such bizarre standards too! Don't take that to seriously - it's just a 'throw away remark!'

by 'Wolfie Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:56 am

eddie wrote:
http://sandrarose.com/2009/03/michelle-obama-accused-of-turning-away-poor-black-patients/

http://lidblog.com/michelle-obamas-hospital-turns-away/

I daresay the links will be unsuitable for most - but I reckon there must be some truth to this.

"Truth" ???

You wouldn't recognise the truth if it bit you..

Right wing gossip and propaganda blog sites by unknown writers do not equate to reputable or factual sources ! tongue

by 'Wolfie Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:03 am

eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:Re looks....it's inevitable that a woman in the public eye has her looks judged in a way that men never do.
Theresa Mays appearance has come in for some real criticism just as Michelle Obama's has.
Odd how pug ugly men can sail through their political careers and no one ever comments on their shoes or rate their facial attractiveness as being found wanting.

Oh do shut up sassy and Syl. Trump has been completely slagged off for his looks as has Farage and Cameron.....

Stop being so overly-sensitive! She's not feminine at all and looks like a man in drag and I would bet most men on here (apart from quill of course) don't find her attractive (though not ONE has the actual balls to admit it) - but you've made it about that and I am not bothered how she looks anyway, it was a throwaway remark by me because some one brought up the transgender thing!

................................

WHY are you so jealous of and negative towards successful and high-flying black women, eddie ???

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:12 am

But...and yet....it's okay for me, and you, to ridicule trump for his looks, 4ever?

I merely said she looked like a man and she does.
Some people like that look, I don't. My opinion.

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:14 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:Re looks....it's inevitable that a woman in the public eye has her looks judged in a way that men never do.
Theresa Mays appearance has come in for some real criticism just as Michelle Obama's has.
Odd how pug ugly men can sail through their political careers and no one ever comments on their shoes or rate their facial attractiveness as being found wanting.

Oh do shut up sassy and Syl. Trump has been completely slagged off for his looks as has Farage and Cameron.....

Stop being so overly-sensitive! She's not feminine at all and looks like a man in drag and I would bet most men on here (apart from quill of course) don't find her attractive (though not ONE has the actual balls to admit it) - but you've made it about that and I am not bothered how she looks anyway, it was a throwaway remark by me because some one brought up the transgender thing!

................................

WHY are you so jealous of and negative towards successful and high-flying black women, eddie ???

Hmmmmm. Maybe for the same reason you're jealous of me, you freak of fucking nature.

What a cock you are.

You are jealous of Trump then, I presume, going by that logic? Rolling Eyes

Think befroe you post. You can't just go around making shit up you know just so you can join in with your mates.

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:33 am

You lot are a bunch of fucking hypocrites. You've slagged off Farage's looks and Trump's - BUT THATS OKAY COS THEY ARE BADDIES AND YOU DONT LIKE THEM.....RIGHT?

Hypocritical fucktards take note:

Here are some warning signs of THE HYPOCRITE:

1) Do as I say, not as I do.
Their actions never seem to match up with their charming words. They have extremely high expectations in you, but don’t seem to follow those standards themselves.

2) "The rules apply to others, but they do not apply to me."
They believe they are above the law—both legally and ethically. They feel entitled to behave however they choose, but others must be kept in line at all times. We see this in politics every single day, when our elected officials stomp across the morals they enforce upon everyone else.

3) It is always someone else’s fault.
It's not their fault for lying. It's your fault for being so petty and pointing out their lie. They might also bring up your past mistakes, to prove that their lie isn't actually so bad by comparison. Someone is always out to get them, and that’s the reason behind all of their problems.

4) Anyone who points out my wrongdoings should be punished.

5) The perpetual victim.
Their bad behavior always has sob-story roots. They hate drama; all they’ve ever wanted is some peace & quiet, and yet they provoke more drama than anyone you’ve ever known. They declare their hatred of negativity, all the while doing exactly the same.

6) Condescending, patronizing, and superior. You feel like a child being reprimanded by an adult. They speak down to you as if you are intellectually deficient and emotionally unstable. They laugh when you try to express yourself, dismissing any concerns you might have as hyper-sensitive and crazy.

7) Lies & excuses.
Hypocrites have excuses for everything. You will find that they spend a lot more time excusing their behavior than ever actually improving it.

You know who you are.

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:46 am

You can make your weak and watery excuses here:

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t17656-hypocrites-are-the-worst-kind-of-people#335031

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:08 pm

eddie wrote:But...and yet....it's okay for me, and you, to ridicule trump for his looks, 4ever?

I merely said she looked like a man and she does.
Some people like that look, I don't. My opinion. You've called her a Transgender - more than once!

Before you've allowed your 'HYSTERIA' to carry your rational thinking off into this massive hissy-fit {that you'll look back on and wonder WTF were you thinking} ...you do know that all of the people you've mentioned in your diatribe have something in COMMON: 'Cheeto-Jesus', Cameron, Mays, Farage, Margaret Thatcher, hell even Churchill

David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 Thinking-hard-smiley-emoticon

should I give you a few moments - allow you to take some deep {really deep breaths} or just tell you?

Michelle Obama-FLOTUS ...didn't run for any political office - wasn't running for political office - she acquired her position by default for having married the man that WE ELECTED FOR POTUS. I mentioned that before but perhaps your reading was impaired by your overly emotional state that you've allowed this to take you!

You lot are a bunch of fucking hypocrites. You've slagged off Farage's looks and Trump's - BUT THATS OKAY COS THEY ARE BADDIES AND YOU DONT LIKE THEM.....RIGHT?
Hypocritical fucktards take note:
Here are some warning signs of THE HYPOCRITE: Go look in the MIRROR

See, Syl ...this is the 'Eddie' that I've met - that I've been dealing with - that I've known since entering this community; this is the REAL EDDIE that works herself into a position that has many unwarranted character & personality flaws and generated off of a cheap blogger ideology with zero facts but loads of BS and gossip mentality and barely defensible and when she {Eddie} has worked herself into a corner she ATTACKS the community members for their opinions!

Now that you've just pulled a 'DIDGEY-DOOER' melt down/hysteria fit Twisted Evil

Perhaps a day in the basement would be what you need; just sayin - you seem to be needing a good punching bag to work out your emotional stress on and now it's become the members here! Suspect

FFS - I would doubt that Michelle Obama would treat you or talk about you with such gutter type language but she's not looking at your public image shoved in front of her because of who you're married too! Rolling Eyes

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:12 pm

4ever please find where I called Mrs Obama a trangender. Now.

And as to the rest of your post - you attacked me because I said she looked manly.

Now bore off.

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:14 pm

eddie wrote:Yes I know, lots of people saying she's trangender. I don't buy it either and I don't care. What I do care about is her doing that job and treating black people that way.
I'm sure someone will be along to pooh-pooh it.

Do you mean here, 4ever, where I said I don't buy the "transgender" thing??

People only lie when they don't have anything else.

by Syl Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:16 pm

eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:Re looks....it's inevitable that a woman in the public eye has her looks judged in a way that men never do.
Theresa Mays appearance has come in for some real criticism just as Michelle Obama's has.
Odd how pug ugly men can sail through their political careers and no one ever comments on their shoes or rate their facial attractiveness as being found wanting.

Oh do shut up sassy and Syl. Trump has been completely slagged off for his looks as has Farage and Cameron.....

Stop being so overly-sensitive! She's not feminine at all and looks like a man in drag and I would bet most men on here (apart from quill of course) don't find her attractive (though not ONE has the actual balls to admit it) - but you've made it about that and I am not bothered how she looks anyway, it was a throwaway remark by me because some one brought up the transgender thing!

Hell, I don't even dislike her but I'm also not so totally brainwashed and brainfucked by glossy media that paints her as pure as the driven snow either.

No I wont shut up, it's actually a very interesting diversion to this thread to comment on the criticism she (and almost every other female in the public eye come to that) has to put up with regarding physical good looks....or the lack of.

I don't think it's being over sensitive to touch on a subject that grinds women down....probably more now than ever before.

Of course we all have opinions on who is beautiful and who isn't....but when what she is doing or saying has no connection to how she is looking, I just don't see the reason for bringing her looks into it. If she was attending a fashion show looking like a bag lady....fair point, if she is standing up making a speech for the underprivileged, why should someone hone in about her hair or shoes??

As for Trump being ridiculed......I'm all for that. Razz

So off to the hypocrite thread I go.... tongue

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:18 pm

Syl wrote:Re looks....it's inevitable that a woman in the public eye has her looks judged in a way that men never do.
Theresa Mays appearance has come in for some real criticism just as Michelle Obama's has.
Odd how pug ugly men can sail through their political careers and no one ever comments on their shoes or rate their facial attractiveness as being found wanting.

Not on here. Everyone has commented on Trump, Farage and Cameron, among others, for their looks.

So that's bollocks.

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:23 pm

Syl, please read back and don't play dumb.
You will find out why her looks were mentioned and why - I made the thread about net job not her looks.

Looks and attractiveness are all opinion and subjective and I have no idea WHY I have been attacked for saying I don't think she's attractive?!

Perhaps you can explain it to me?

Halle Berry is muscular and has short hair and she is stunning IN MY OPINION
Michelle Obama is not attractive IN MY OPINION.

So let's see.....what exactly did I say that was so wrong?

Frankly I care not one fucking jot. At least I'm not a hypocrite - I say it how I see it.

by Syl Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:28 pm

eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:Re looks....it's inevitable that a woman in the public eye has her looks judged in a way that men never do.
Theresa Mays appearance has come in for some real criticism just as Michelle Obama's has.
Odd how pug ugly men can sail through their political careers and no one ever comments on their shoes or rate their facial attractiveness as being found wanting.

Not on here. Everyone has commented on Trump, Farage and Cameron, among others, for their looks.

So that's bollocks.

Trump is fair game as I have pointed out above....Farage and Cameron??....maybe on here their physical looks have been commented on, in the press the worst I have seen is Fatcat Cameron has a bit of a paunch...(which considering food banks have multiplied to feed hungry families since he came to power is fair comment) and Farage is a scruffy get....(harsh but true) but neither comments are enough to keep them awake at night.

Eddie, I find it hard to believe you don't see the huge divide between men and women and the way the press, social media, the general public, everyone in fact, dissects women for their beauty, attractiveness, ugliness, even personal behaviour.

by Syl Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:36 pm

eddie wrote:Syl, please read back and don't play dumb.
You will find out why her looks were mentioned and why - I made the thread about net job not her looks.

Looks and attractiveness are all opinion and subjective and I have no idea WHY I have been attacked for saying I don't think she's attractive?!

Perhaps you can explain it to me?

Halle Berry is muscular and has short hair and she is stunning IN MY OPINION
Michelle Obama is not attractive IN MY OPINION.

So let's see.....what exactly did I say that was so wrong?

Frankly I care not one fucking jot. At least I'm not a hypocrite - I say it how I see it.

Why do you think I'm playing dumb because I express a different opinion to you on this?

You read back Eddie, I haven't attacked you or anyone else on here. I am pointing out that in the media women are treated very differently to men re looks.
I think you are taking this a bit too personally.

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:58 pm

As for us being hypocrites, I think you first have to prove Eddie that we have ever had a go at Trump for his looks.

He disgusts me because he is a misogynist, says he'd fuck his daughters if they weren't his daughters, says a woman journalist who asked him a difficult question was probably on her period, stirs up racial hatred, encourages his followers to be violent and says he will pay their fines, his only policy is 'let's make America great again' but not how, is being taken to court for the con of his 'university' that wasn't which got people who couldn't afford it to take out high loans, gave them nothing and left them in debt, etc etc, etc.

I have nothing to make excuses about.

And I will continue to say that Michelle Obama is a beautiful, strong, sexy, sporty, inspiration woman who has been magnificent as a First Lady.

by Syl Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:05 pm

I suppose in a way Michelle Obama is in the same position Cherie Blair was.
She is not a politician herself but she never takes a back seat and publicises her own causes thus putting herself in the spotlight.

Now I admit, I didn't like Cherie Blair, I always thought looks wise she tried to be a Jackie Kennedy lookalike, but sadly she didn't have the grace, charm, or facial features of Jackie, so she failed miserably.

Does that make me a hypocrite to say so?

Don't care. tongue

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:15 pm

Frankly, I think you made a lame/lazy attempt to drag our FLOTUS into a discussion but the 'LAME/LAZY' blogger of choice you used garnered you so much ridicule and angst ...that you dropped that and just went rogue trying to grasp at some 'Straw man' position to save your POV and there wasn't anything other than 'this is your judgmental POV' and you felt you needed proof!

BTW - yes, you pack peddled away from calling her a 'TRANS' but then just prettied it up with this >

So they do have segregated care.
What planet are you on?
And Syl? Yes, that was a lovely video of her being all Singy and clappy - not set up at all.!
And tbh, though I don't thinks she's transgender, she is NOT a feminine woman and she is NOT, what I'd call attractive (not heard anyone regard her as attractive) and she does look like a man in make up.
Sorry. But she bloody does.
But again. All beside the point as I prefer her, to the husband anyway, and feel she would've possibly made a better president....

But seriously, that comprehension about the MEANING OF HYPOCRIT and the Definition of Transgender = your as good at twisting words as our own TOMMYKINS! Twisted Evil

And as for 'MY' feelings about your topic:
a.) you brought it in here for membership discussion - SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP, it didn't pan out as you'd hoped
b.) you tried to push Icke's lame POV but the man is a notorious 'BLOGGER' of lies ...and you got your hat handed to you because of that
c.) if your little feeling got bruised ...why are you so sensitive about something that you've taken as a PERSONAL ISSUE when this isn't about YOUR LOOKS - we don't judge you
d.) oh, hell yes - anyone in the political media is pretty much fair game; but we've {right minded/non judgmental decent humans} always left the wives and children of our POTUS alone during their term of office - you Brits on the other hand seem quite capable of Paraná attacking anything that moves! Suspect

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:21 pm

sassy wrote:As for us being hypocrites, I think you first have to prove Eddie that we have ever had a go at Trump for his looks.

He disgusts me because he is a misogynist, says he'd fuck his daughters if they weren't his daughters, says a woman journalist who asked him a difficult question was probably on her period, stirs up racial hatred, encourages his followers to be violent and says he will pay their fines, his only policy is 'let's make America great again' but not how, is being taken to court for the con of his 'university' that wasn't which got people who couldn't afford it to take out high loans, gave them nothing and left them in debt, etc etc, etc.

I have nothing to make excuses about.

And I will continue to say that Michelle Obama is a beautiful, strong, sexy, sporty, inspiration woman who has been magnificent as a First Lady.

Bumped

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:25 pm

Syl wrote:
eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:Re looks....it's inevitable that a woman in the public eye has her looks judged in a way that men never do.
Theresa Mays appearance has come in for some real criticism just as Michelle Obama's has.
Odd how pug ugly men can sail through their political careers and no one ever comments on their shoes or rate their facial attractiveness as being found wanting.

Not on here. Everyone has commented on Trump, Farage and Cameron, among others, for their looks.

So that's bollocks.

Trump is fair game as I have pointed out above....Farage and Cameron??....maybe on here their physical looks have been commented on, in the press the worst I have seen is Fatcat Cameron has a bit of a paunch...(which considering food banks have multiplied to feed hungry families since he came to power is fair comment) and Farage is a scruffy get....(harsh but true) but neither comments are enough to keep them awake at night.

Eddie, I find it hard to believe you don't see the huge divide between men and women and the way the press, social media, the general public, everyone in fact, dissects women for their beauty, attractiveness, ugliness, even personal behaviour.

So? I'm not the media am I? scratch

I'm allowed to say I think someone is attractive/unattractive if I like. Am I not?

I had no idea, that becasue the media is "harsh on women", that I was supposed to lie and say that someone was attractive just to even out the press comments...? Rolling Eyes

I mean, you do see how over the actual top and through the roof, all these over reactions are, don't you?
"Omg! Eddie said another woman is unattractive!" affraid

Fuck off with that shit. It's all fake pretence and fake outcries and it is hypocritical in the extreme.

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:27 pm

sassy wrote:
sassy wrote:As for us being hypocrites, I think you first have to prove Eddie that we have ever had a go at Trump for his looks.

He disgusts me because he is a misogynist, says he'd fuck his daughters if they weren't his daughters, says a woman journalist who asked him a difficult question was probably on her period, stirs up racial hatred, encourages his followers to be violent and says he will pay their fines, his only policy is 'let's make America great again' but not how, is being taken to court for the con of his 'university' that wasn't which got people who couldn't afford it to take out high loans, gave them nothing and left them in debt, etc etc, etc.

I have nothing to make excuses about.

And I will continue to say that Michelle Obama is a beautiful, strong, sexy, sporty, inspiration woman who has been magnificent as a First Lady.

Bumped

Sassy if you can't remember making comments with 4evrr and I about trumps hair and his face.....then your memory sucks or you're a fucking liar.

I'm sure 4ever wil find you the posts. She's very good at finding the things people say.

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:31 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:

Bumped

Sassy if you can't remember making comments with 4evrr and I about trumps hair and his face.....then your memory sucks or you're a fucking liar.

I'm sure 4ever wil find you the posts. She's very good at finding the things people say.

Well, it's easy enough for you to prove it if you are right, so go ahead.

Now, walking the dog on the beach calls so will bbl.

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:33 pm

Nope. I have no burning need to prove you wrong. I'm not that bothered.

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:50 pm

eddie wrote:Nope. I have no burning need to prove you wrong. I'm not that bothered.

David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 3350646086

David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 2581891615

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:56 pm

4EVER2 wrote:
eddie wrote:Nope. I have no burning need to prove you wrong. I'm not that bothered.

Are you telling me you don't remember you, and I and sassy laughing about trumps hair and his face?????

You call him Cheeto-Jesus!

You two are too fucking old for forums if you can't remember something we laughed at a few weeks ago.

Or you're lying.

So which is it? Are you senile or a liar?

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:04 pm

Never mind ladies. I remember it and I remember it well and because I know how sharp you both are, I know you remember it too.

So you're both lying and quite frankly I am really upset and shocked and a little saddened that you would feel the need to lie about something so trivial.

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:25 pm

eddie wrote:
4EVER2 wrote:

Are you telling me you don't remember you, and I and sassy laughing about trumps hair and his face?????

You call him Cheeto-Jesus!

You two are too fucking old for forums if you can't remember something we laughed at a few weeks ago.

Or you're lying.

So which is it? Are you senile or a liar?

WOW, for someone that has PRIDED themselves on being OPEN MINDED - never holding a GRUDGE and becoming irrational ...you've just gone utterly and totally Didgy-dooer about an issue that not #1 time have I ever denied and now you've gone beyond calling me a:
Fucking Hypocrite - Bore Off - LIAR - Senile and LYING!

Your Topic opening post - seems you've forgotten what you stated - how far your hysteria has taken it and now you've gone utterly POSTAL and have continued to INSULT when none of that was necessary!

He mentions Mr Obama at the end - but I'm not really interested in that.
I am interested in what people truly make of his impression of Mrs Obama and her past occupational doings...

Well, this is the immature MOD/little Eddie that told me to slap you with a Fish when you started going CRAZY and I've tried that a few times today and that didn't calm your cray-cray-crazy down - you've filled 2 topics with your insanity and rabid pit-bull attacks!

Sweet Jesus - there's just no protection from MODS ON INSANITY MODE David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 3986371719

David Icke on Michelle Obama - does he have a point? - Page 2 3986371719

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:25 pm

Eddie, you know that humble pie?

Here's the thread you appear to be talking about, thought I didn't remember it.

4Ever and I were not involved:

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t11318-donald-trump-s-bible-would-be-a-terrible-read

by Tommy Monk Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:29 pm

4ever has called him cheeto Jesus's on many threads...

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:33 pm

sassy wrote:Eddie, you know that humble pie?

Here's the thread you appear to be talking about, thought I didn't remember it.

4Ever and I were not involved:

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t11318-donald-trump-s-bible-would-be-a-terrible-read

Remember, Eddie said "it doesn't matter - she doesn't care"

But 'I' have never denied this issue but it's not what I've been trying to get her to read; but for this day - she's arrived in a huge chip wedge firmly up her butt and she's gone beyond all reason and now has 2 topics that are for nothing but trashing members and THAT IS AGAINST THE RULES!

But I'm the "fucking hypocrite/liar/bore off/senile/lying member" that has called our little eddie anything but IMMATURE! And she's wearing that quite nicely, yet again! Twisted Evil

by eddie Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:33 pm

sassy wrote:Eddie, you know that humble pie?

Here's the thread you appear to be talking about, thought I didn't remember it.

4Ever and I were not involved:

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t11318-donald-trump-s-bible-would-be-a-terrible-read

That isn't the one sassy.
I keep telling you it was you and me and 4ever.

It's fine. You don't remember.
It's better than me thinking you're a liar.

And 4ever? You never answer anything I ask or write about and that's called deflection, you,do it a lot.
So I notice you're posting but I'm not actually reading anything because you're as slippery as a fish and it's probably about my being a mod which has naff all to do with your lies.

by Guest Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:37 pm

Well, I suggest you find the right thread or apologise, I don't know what the problem is, but your postings today have been unacceptable. Perhaps you don't realise quite how nasty you have been.

by Original Quill Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:41 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:4ever has called him cheeto Jesus's on many threads...

I think that's a little different, tommy. First, he's the candidate; Michelle is not. Second, Trump is himself given to attaching nombres to people, so inevitably he invites the same treatment back. Third, his hair and coloring are the result of conscious grooming efforts to look that way, so that naming him after those characteristics is in fact just calling him by his own brand.

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