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Post by Irn Bru Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:12 am

How the regressive RW media outlets reported the Dallas shootings.

At a Black Lives Matter (BLM) rally in Dallas yesterday, demonstrators protested the recent shootings of two African American men by white police officers in Minnesota and Louisiana. “Enough is enough!” the marchers shouted while they held signs bearing slogans like: “If all lives matter, why are black ones taken so easily?” Then, as we now know, an assassin opened fire on the law-enforcement officers who were on duty at the rally. Four policemen and one transit officer were killed, and six additional police were wounded.

No analysis of this atrocity would be complete without noting the now-indisputable fact that every word uttered by BLM and its mouthpieces is an unadulterated lie. The entire self-identified purpose of this movement—which is to demand “an immediate end to police brutality and [to] the murder of Black people and all oppressed people”—is rendered utterly fictitious by a single statement of fact: Of all suspects who are killed by police in the US each year, 41.7% are white, 20.3% are Hispanic, and 31.7% are black—even as blacks account for 38.5% of all arrests for violent crimes, which are the types of crimes most likely to trigger a confrontation with police that could result in a fatality.

These numbers do not in any way suggest a lack of restraint by police in their dealings with black suspects. They suggest precisely the opposite. And that's the dirty little secret. Evidence of systemic racism in police shootings simply doesn't exist. Anywhere.

The premise underlying BLM's whole mission is a lie.


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Front Page mag is a bigotted organisatio to start with so no surprise they come out with this sort of stuff. They're part of the problem and not the solution.
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:55 am

clipped from the article > Evidence of systemic racism in police shootings simply doesn't exist. Anywhere.
And this example is what gets regurgitated in mass volumes daily on FB/Myspace/'Faux News paid commentators/Bloggers world wide ...people with zero creditability to verify their talking points yet just shuffle the BS and send it along as if it's their very own POV. 
But as you've stated ...
IRN stated > They're part of the problem and not the solution.
What really rips me a new one daily is hearing and reading exerts from some notable 'lesser thinking' human getting paid for his/her mental drool that keeps feeding the flames about the BLM being nothing but a 'HATE GROUP' and how it's 'their own fault that they are treated this way' Evil or Very Mad
Rudy Giuliani - former Mayor of NY City or Sarah Palin - former Gov. of Alaska {short term, she quit the job} but they get asked to fill a chair on some news show {usually FAUX media} and they go off on their insanity filled diatribes and it gut wrenching.
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Post by veya_victaous Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:21 am

I already think US cops should be declared terrorists. they kill heaps of people and they do use terror as a tool to suppress the population (the real true definition or a terrorist)

the thing is Targeting Police is the Correct thing to do, Police are not civilians they are Combatants for the governing power in Civil warfare, IF they are going to target a group of people they declare 'Enemy' then to target white police officers is much more reasonable because it is specific, than those that declare the broad and generic 'immigrants' or 'Black' or 'refugees' as the enemies.
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:28 am

veya_victaous wrote:I already think US cops should be declared terrorists. they kill heaps of people and they do use terror as a tool to suppress the population (the real true definition or a terrorist)

the thing is Targeting Police is the Correct thing to do, Police are not civilians they are Combatants for the governing power in Civil warfare, IF they are going to target a group of people they declare 'Enemy' then to target white police officers is much more reasonable because it is specific, than those that declare the broad and generic 'immigrants' or 'Black' or 'refugees' as the enemies.

UGH ...that sounds vaguely like 'high noon shoot out at the OK CORRAL' and all the rest of us collateral damaged - soon to be body counts caught in the middle.   It’s Time to Designate Black Lives Matter a Terrorist Organization  Scared-smiley-emoticon

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Post by Original Quill Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:01 am

Irn Bru wrote:Of all suspects who are killed by police in the US each year, 41.7% are white, 20.3% are Hispanic, and 31.7% are black—even as blacks account for 38.5% of all arrests for violent crimes, which are the types of crimes most likely to trigger a confrontation with police that could result in a fatality.

First, who can tell me what the percentage of blacks are in the US?  Ok, the guy in the back...Yes, that's right, only 13%.  But here you are quoting figures in the 30-40% range.  Can anyone tell me what is suspicious about this?

All of these statistics are about--no, not about blacks--but about what white policemen do.  They make arrests.  Then they lie to juries about the alleged crimes.  In the Minneapolis case, the cop said he stopped the driver for a broken taillight.  Did y'all miss the fact that the taillight was not broken.  Right...the cop lied.

Cops lie.  They lie about probable cause to stop someone.  They lie about resisting arrest when they assault the guy.  And they lie to juries about the evidence.  Cops lie.

Ok, back to the statistics.  Who keeps these statistics?  Right, the same cops who lie.  But they don't have to lie about the statistics...they've already lied to swoop up blacks into the criminal justice system to begin with.  And what was that number?  "...blacks account for 38.5% of all arrests for violent crimes."  And who arrested them?  And who said they were violent crimes?  Riiiiight...the cops.

I don't think y'all, living in your tidy little islands that look like The Hamptions, can begin to understand what a racist nation is.  America pays American policemen to do what the straw boss did to the field niggahs...keep 'em in line.  Whip them when necessary.  Beat the shit outta them. And throw the big ones in the goil.  Kill 'em if, ya know...you're really pissed.

Does anyone wonder why I want to start a new nation, in a place where there are no southerners, and I don't even want to be associated with them?  Vote for the separation of the Pacific States of America.  cheers

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:58 am

Astounding hypocrisy going on here on this thread.
The people portraying "Black Lives Matter " are terrorist are wrong, but so is the conception of "Black lives Matters" when its humans shot by the Police, where in 70% of these killings the person shot is armed, but they come from all ethnic groups. As those not blacked are shot and rendered unimportant. So the principle should be around "human lives matter" and about why around 30% of those killed were unarmed. Nobody claims all Muslims are terrorists, but a substancial number are. The police in the US deal with millions of crimes, of which they face the added threat and knowledge many people can be armed. By the very law of the country on gunss, then vastly increases the possibility of such shootings, but to claim all 900,000 US officers are terrorists when out of 10 million arrests and that leads to less than a thousand shootings of suspects, its poor to say the least.
Again people seem to fail to grasp the situation that is going on where guns are available as candy and how both left and right fuel issues on this when ever people are shot, that then makes the matter worse where fear and hate grows from the African American community towards the Police and they in reverse with fear from this community to being murdered, when they have the RW whip this up and are indoctrinated on training with being shown countless videos of cops being murdered,.

If you want to see a dramatic decrease in such shootings, then the people of the US need to realise you cant always get what you want and life is going to be safer for all by banning the right to bear arms and that is should only be for sporting or hunting purposes

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Post by veya_victaous Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:49 am

Didge wrote:Astounding hypocrisy going on here on this thread.
The people portraying "Black Lives Matter " are terrorist are wrong, but so is the conception of "Black lives Matters" when its humans shot by the Police, where in 70% of these killings the person shot is armed, but they come from all ethnic groups. As those not blacked are shot and rendered unimportant. So the principle should be around "human lives matter" and about why around 30% of those killed were unarmed. Nobody claims all Muslims are terrorists, but a substancial number are. The police in the US deal with millions of crimes, of which they face the added threat and knowledge many people can be armed. By the very law of the country on gunss, then vastly increases the possibility of such shootings, but to claim all 900,000 US officers are terrorists when out of 10 million arrests and that leads to less than a thousand shootings of suspects, its poor to say the least.
Again people seem to fail to grasp the situation that is going on where guns are available as candy and how both left and right fuel issues on this when ever people are shot, that then makes the matter worse where fear and hate grows from the African American community towards the Police and they in reverse with fear from this community to being murdered, when they have the RW whip this up and are indoctrinated on training with being shown countless videos of cops being murdered,.

If you want to see a dramatic decrease in such shootings, then the people of the US need to realise you cant always get what you want and life is going to be safer for all by banning the right to bear arms and that is should only be for sporting or hunting purposes

that post is pretty ignorant

Cause we act like white lives don't matter? NO that is not the case.
is it a statement about the way the authrorties in the USA act like Black lives dont matter? YES it is.

DO the shootings of white peopel get more investigation? and Did the shooting of white people up until the black lives matter movement get alot more media attention? yes they did.

SO at any point has ANYONE suggested any other lives don't matter? NO, NO ONE HAS SUGGESTED THAT.
It is a statement saying this group that Society acts like doesn't matter, Does actually matter too.

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veya_victaous wrote:
Didge wrote:Astounding hypocrisy going on here on this thread.
The people portraying "Black Lives Matter " are terrorist are wrong, but so is the conception of "Black lives Matters" when its humans shot by the Police, where in 70% of these killings the person shot is armed, but they come from all ethnic groups. As those not blacked are shot and rendered unimportant. So the principle should be around "human lives matter" and about why around 30% of those killed were unarmed. Nobody claims all Muslims are terrorists, but a substancial number are. The police in the US deal with millions of crimes, of which they face the added threat and knowledge many people can be armed. By the very law of the country on gunss, then vastly increases the possibility of such shootings, but to claim all 900,000 US officers are terrorists when out of 10 million arrests and that leads to less than a thousand shootings of suspects, its poor to say the least.
Again people seem to fail to grasp the situation that is going on where guns are available as candy and how both left and right fuel issues on this when ever people are shot, that then makes the matter worse where fear and hate grows from the African American community towards the Police and they in reverse with fear from this community to being murdered, when they have the RW whip this up and are indoctrinated on training with being shown countless videos of cops being murdered,.

If you want to see a dramatic decrease in such shootings, then the people of the US need to realise you cant always get what you want and life is going to be safer for all by banning the right to bear arms and that is should only be for sporting or hunting purposes

that post is pretty ignorant

Cause we act like white lives don't matter? NO that is not the case.
is it a statement about the way the authrorties in the USA act like Black lives dont matter? YES it is.

DO the shootings of white peopel get more investigation? and Did the shooting of white people up until the black lives matter movement get alot more media attention? yes they did.

SO at any point has ANYONE suggested any other lives don't matter? NO, NO ONE HAS SUGGESTED THAT.
It is a statement saying this group that Society acts like doesn't matter, Does actually matter too.



Poor reasoning.
The principle matter is on humans being shot and killed by the Police
To ask whether others get investigated or have the same media attention fails to understand we have created a continual problem over the classifications of races itself. Where because people watch a video of an unlawful shooting and because a label has been attached to someone, which biologically does not exist. Creates an automatic belief that the killing has happened due to the person being Black. Based off such an emotional charged situation it then leads people to believe that any blacks have been unlawfully killed. It is then emotions and not reason that is rulling judgement. Its very possible that it could be racially motivated, but both left and right in politics, the media and the web further make the problem worse by again the simple fact we wrongly identify people into mythical races. This then leads people to believe that races of humans are then more susceptable to criminality, which fails to understand what leads to people falling into crime.

Eddie posted a very good video on this how we are not black or white and yet from the moment we are born, such a racial classification continues to allow racism to exist. It provides the means to claim people born with a different skin colour based on a couple of years of crime stats, makes them more criminal. Its of course nonsense, as nobody collects the data on what eye colours people have and place this onto how many people commit a crime. We class people being a different race of skin colour but not eye colour. I imagine if you applied the same stats on killers on their eye colours people would then start being prejudiced towards that group with the highest from one colour. For years the world has failed to see that from the first moments of our lives we are being divided into seperate groups which has for years allowed people to continual hold misconceptions about these groups. Its not because of our skin or eye colours that make people commit homicides, rape, but a variety of influences from society, whether that be poverty, ideological, political, religious or non religious beliefs which then effect the emotional state of the individual growing up. In the case of many African Americans they are born with this incorrect Black label and where they have been previously disadvantaged and still are some of them, with poverty levels, poor education provided etc. Lead to an increase chance of people turning to crime. As then more people whether back, white and latino from poverty levels, the system has failed many of them, because America itself is strutured on the bases of a White Middle Class family. Its set to look out for this group and higher.

You need to do away with racial classifications, as people born in the US, should be classed Americans and to idenetify from ethnicity, which is the collective language, culture beliefs etc of the country of ancestry, their gender sexualitym beleifs etc. As at present all you are seeing is America divided as a people because it has a failed system that has a high risk of people failing into crime. On top of this it has a gun policy that allows people to walk around armed in public areas, vastly increasing the risk of violence. Then you have the Police fueld on training to fear the loss of their lives watching countless videos of murdered cops, added to this the RW playing off stats on how many homicides are committed by African Americans. On top of this knowing that they go into a situation where many suspects are armed. Thus increasing the risk factor and even more so emotions taking control of a situation. This is the environment that has been created by the American system which has gotten so bad blacks fear and sterotype the Police and the Police fear and sterotype the blacks. Again 509 people have been shot by the Police and whilst it is probable that soime could be racially motivated, the reality is most will have been cause by the emotion of fear taking control. When that takes control and people fear for their lives, people can make poor reactive decisions. If people cannot even understand this then they simply do not understand the human mind. When I helped trained on the NHS Pathways system, one of the questions asked to the patient, is whether they have a feeling of impending doom, of whhich does happen to people near and close to having a heart attack. The body knows something is very wrong and fear takes control. So if you are placing officers into a possible emotionally charged situation, due to the fact people armed with guns is a significant threat to people lives. Then its bound to have an effect on some officers when dealing with such situations.

So many whites, blacks and latinos have been shot by the Police its to these root causes that is need to look at to help tackle the problem and that out of those killed even more so the ones who were killed unarmed whih is around 30% percent of them. There is even 22 cases of where cops have mistaken toy guns for real guns and shot and killed the individual. That shows how evern more a fear of their life at the mere sight of a gun can have on the officer involved. So when I say all lives matter, then this means in the context of America all Human lives, whether they be black, white, latino, Asian or Cops themselves. This is why there should be a unified movement to challenge when people have been shot and killed by the Police. That every cases is properly investigated and that a ruling body charges any Cops that killed unlawfully. Otherwise there is imple no point in having your justice system. The sad reality is due to racism that does effect black lives and where there have been documented racism from the Police. Then to promoite black lives matter is going off the presumed position that all blacks that are shot by the Police have been racially motivated. Which does nothing in helping understand the problems that exist that can lead to a higher risk of a possible shooting occuring when the Police attend an incident. This allows for an emotional charged situation, leading to anger and hate, which as seen can lead to reprisals with more human lives lost. That is why it is essential to champion the view of "human lives matter" and why when multiple lives are at risk, that deadly force is required in order to prevent loss of life, as we saw happened at Dallas. All I am seeing is an endless cycle of fear, hate, resentment, prejudice etc being fueld by left and right when they automatically assume that when someone black is killed unlawfully by the Police that its racially motivated or when blacks commit homicides, that the presumption is they have murdered someone because they are something that bioligically does not exist, a black human race. All you are seeing is a heightened fear being created, where innocent black people will surrfer from as well as innocent Police officers. People are judging events based on their emotions and not reason.

You can protect anyone from discrimination as we already do on based sexuality, gender, height, obesity, hair colour, what religion they beleive in, what political belief they belief in, their skin colour their ethnic ancestry, their language etc. You do not classify people into seperate human races, as for centuries it allows for the wort and poorest prejudiced to set in

What the US should be asking themselves is whether the right to bear arms matter more than human lives

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:08 am

I wouldn't necessarily associate this organisation with the shooting which happened, but whenever there's a terrorist act or murder by someone who's "right wing", the lefties try to associate them with a "right wing" organisation like the EDL or Britain First.

I remember when David Copeland blew up the Admiral Nelson pub in London, so many people tried to link him with the BNP. In fact, he had been a member of the BNP but he left because he didn't consider them hard line enough, and the bombing was nothing to do with them.

Micah Johnson used a Black Lives Matter protest to do his evil deed, and he clearly did so in support of them, so why not link him to them in the same way that lefties try make a similar link?
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:46 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I wouldn't necessarily associate this organisation with the shooting which happened, but whenever there's a terrorist act or murder by someone who's "right wing", the lefties try to associate them with a "right wing" organisation like the EDL or Britain First.

I remember when David Copeland blew up the Admiral Nelson pub in London, so many people tried to link him with the BNP. In fact, he had been a member of the BNP but he left because he didn't consider them hard line enough, and the bombing was nothing to do with them.

Micah Johnson used a Black Lives Matter protest to do his evil deed, and he clearly did so in support of them, so why not link him to them in the same way that lefties try make a similar link?

Micah Johnson has nothing to do with BLM.  'Black Lives Matter' exists, as an organization, because some American police--not all--believe that black lives do not matter.  

It's a very narrow, specific statement that says: stop killing blacks...they matter!!!

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Post by veya_victaous Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:50 pm

Major wrote:Whites, blacks, browns have never mixed successfully so it begs the question WHY?
Answer, all are different in some way to one another and do not want to for whatever exact reason.

Who wants to live/associate with people that you are not happy with.

Think about it in general terms.


yes they have and do Dumb ass

it is Wankers like you that Dont mix successfully with others
that is why I propse Purging People like you
then we can all get along Rolling Eyes

simple as that BY your logic You are unhappy seeing other races, so You should NOT be here in the modern world
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:39 am

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I wouldn't necessarily associate this organisation with the shooting which happened, but whenever there's a terrorist act or murder by someone who's "right wing", the lefties try to associate them with a "right wing" organisation like the EDL or Britain First.

I remember when David Copeland blew up the Admiral Nelson pub in London, so many people tried to link him with the BNP. In fact, he had been a member of the BNP but he left because he didn't consider them hard line enough, and the bombing was nothing to do with them.

Micah Johnson used a Black Lives Matter protest to do his evil deed, and he clearly did so in support of them, so why not link him to them in the same way that lefties try make a similar link?

Micah Johnson has nothing to do with BLM.  'Black Lives Matter' exists, as an organization, because some American police--not all--believe that black lives do not matter.  

It's a very narrow, specific statement that says: stop killing blacks...they matter!!!
Unfortunate, we won't get any opportunity to check with Micah - see what triggered his mental change when he came back from his tour of duty in the military - see if his parents could reach him and 'check his free-fall' into the abyss - no, can't put those pieces back together for any possible answers Suspect

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:56 am

Major wrote:Whites, blacks, browns have never mixed successfully so it begs the question WHY?
Answer, all are different in some way to one another and do not want to for whatever exact reason.
Who wants to live/associate with people that you are not happy with.
Think about it in general terms.
It's not 'ODD' to my mind to read your written words here Stormee; there are quite a few relic ole' gents here in America that have that same mind-set but you are the vanishing breed and the world is changing so very rapidly - and the color of our skin tone has morphed even greater towards a common blend then even during your grandparents time.

So if you are able to put aside the 'skin color' issue and just think about or consider the linguistic side of our common bonds; the very way we have to communicate - we English speaking are not the #1 largest cultural group around - no, indeed >
 
World Diversity Patterns


There are more than 6.5 billion people in the world today.  Nearly 2/3 of them are Asians living on less than 1/3 of the land.   Only about 5% of the world's people live in North America.

A good indication of cultural survival is the continued use of traditional languages and dialects.  People who are unable to readily communicate because of language differences are more likely to maintain cultural differences as well.  Linguists estimate that the world's peoples speak 5000-6000 languages.  The most common "native" language is Mandarin Chinese.   English is a distant third. 
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Post by 'Wolfie Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:13 am

Surprised

NOTICE Stormee's idiotic proclivity towards claiming that his own narrow minded and obviously limited experience of life somehow reflects the wider world  !!!

His idiotic claim that "black, brown and white" people have never been able to live together successfully and peacefully; and then his totally spurious and moronic references, to people not wanting to mix with anyone different..

This brand of insular ignorance really does tell us that Stormee really does need to get out and travel more, and open his eyes to the world around him..

Instead of constantly hiding his head up the backsides of his white supremacist and neo-nazi white trash and scumbag kindred non-thinkers.

It really would do the brainless little turd a world of good..       Arrow
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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:39 am

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I wouldn't necessarily associate this organisation with the shooting which happened, but whenever there's a terrorist act or murder by someone who's "right wing", the lefties try to associate them with a "right wing" organisation like the EDL or Britain First.

I remember when David Copeland blew up the Admiral Nelson pub in London, so many people tried to link him with the BNP. In fact, he had been a member of the BNP but he left because he didn't consider them hard line enough, and the bombing was nothing to do with them.

Micah Johnson used a Black Lives Matter protest to do his evil deed, and he clearly did so in support of them, so why not link him to them in the same way that lefties try make a similar link?

Micah Johnson has nothing to do with BLM.  'Black Lives Matter' exists, as an organization, because some American police--not all--believe that black lives do not matter.  

It's a very narrow, specific statement that says: stop killing blacks...they matter!!!

It's not relevant whether he had anything to do with Black Lives Matter or not. The point is that any kind of organisation like that will attract nutters. You're surely not going to tell me that his rampage was a complete coincidence are you? He chose a day and place where there was a Black Lives Matter protest. Any organisation which is protesting will attract attention from people like that, and yet lefties like to make a direct association if it's a "right wing" organisation.


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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:41 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Major wrote:Whites, blacks, browns have never mixed successfully so it begs the question WHY?
Answer, all are different in some way to one another and do not want to for whatever exact reason.

Who wants to live/associate with people that you are not happy with.

Think about it in general terms.


yes they have and do Dumb ass

it is Wankers like you that Dont mix successfully with others
that is why I propse Purging People like you
then we can all get along Rolling Eyes

simple as that BY your logic You are unhappy seeing other races, so You should NOT be here in the modern world

More proposals to "cleanse" the planet of people you don't like? That's not very PC is it?
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Post by nicko Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:41 am

Dumb ass, Wanker, do you ever think of yourself when useing these words,---------you should do!
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