Menstrual Leave

Raggamuffin wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:



You gotta learn yourself in these matters.

It's very common on forums. A "new" person picks out the most gullible member, and then gives them little snippets of personal info via PM which might be true, or might not be true, and then sits back whilst they give away their whole life history.

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

She has a point.   A very valid one.  When you've had to deal with the worst of forum scum, you get a nose for these things.

Oh I've got that and I know a real person when I meet one.   And there are reasons why I know she is who she says she it, which I will not divulge here as I will not betray a confidence.

Raggamuffin wrote:

sassy wrote:


Oh I've got that and I know a real person when I meet one.   And there are reasons why I know she is who she says she it, which I will not divulge here as I will not betray a confidence.

You mean you know what she's told you.

sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

You mean you know what she's told you.

I'm not telling you why I know and you can go on about it all day, and of course you will say that is not trolling.

sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

It's very common on forums. A "new" person picks out the most gullible member, and then gives them little snippets of personal info via PM which might be true, or might not be true, and then sits back whilst they give away their whole life history.

You don't have the slightest idea what we have talked about, you'd never keep up with it.

eddie wrote:Can we leave family members out of debates please??

Seriously, let's just debate!

Didge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Are you saying my mum is not a girl?

Are you saying you have had sex with her, which is more the worrying point?

WTF

eddie wrote:Let's get back on topic.

I think this a terrible idea. Firstly, because if you have a huge company that employs a lot of women, you could potentially be having dozens of members "off sick"
Secondly, some women will abuse it!
Thirdly, it's part of life and the pains aren't usually that bad - usually if you're period pains are that bad, it's because you may have an underlying health issue like endometriosis etc and then you'd be under the hospital.
If that was the case then time off would and should be allowed.

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

She has a point.   A very valid one.  When you've had to deal with the worst of forum scum, you get a nose for these things.

Oh I've got that and I know a real person when I meet one.   And there are reasons why I know she is who she says she it, which I will not divulge here as I will not betray a confidence.

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:Let's get back on topic.

I think this a terrible idea. Firstly, because if you have a huge company that employs a lot of women, you could potentially be having dozens of members "off sick"
Secondly, some women will abuse it!
Thirdly, it's part of life and the pains aren't usually that bad - usually if you're period pains are that bad, it's because you may have an underlying health issue like endometriosis etc and then you'd be under the hospital.
If that was the case then time off would and should be allowed.

Yes. They can be bad of course, which is what codeine is for.

aspca4ever wrote:

sassy wrote:

You don't have the slightest idea what we have talked about, you'd never keep up with it.

Hmmm, I'm thinking the #2 has a huge 'need to know' and her jealousy in having missed out on a sincere friendship {due to her own ass-swipe attacks} is leaving her 'GREEN' with envy that she's not included in our 'GROUP' and other discussions!

That would clearly go over her head as she's not capable of understanding educated humans having intelligent discourse with each other and enjoying getting to know some one new! 

Calling you childish names; tsk - tsk, like that's doing anything but proving my POINT!  For a #2 troll to stalk my every post and make such rude/crude references to any thing I've said --- hell, she even has attacked my thoughts about the 'beheaded child' on the other topic!  Clearly, this 'hero worship' of #2 has been eating away at her... **sigh** really sad, when you have NO LIFE! 

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes. They can be bad of course, which is what codeine is for.

Yes I think strong painkillers usually do the trick but let's say for some women they don't? Then a letter from a GP or hospital consultant would suffice for sick leave.

I just think it's going to be taken advantage of. I really do.
It's something women have to deal with and they do say that light exercise does period pains the world of good....so perhaps going to work mKes some women feel better?

HoratioTarr wrote:

aspca4ever wrote:

Hmmm, I'm thinking the #2 has a huge 'need to know' and her jealousy in having missed out on a sincere friendship {due to her own ass-swipe attacks} is leaving her 'GREEN' with envy that she's not included in our 'GROUP' and other discussions!

That would clearly go over her head as she's not capable of understanding educated humans having intelligent discourse with each other and enjoying getting to know some one new! 

Calling you childish names; tsk - tsk, like that's doing anything but proving my POINT!  For a #2 troll to stalk my every post and make such rude/crude references to any thing I've said --- hell, she even has attacked my thoughts about the 'beheaded child' on the other topic!  Clearly, this 'hero worship' of #2 has been eating away at her... **sigh** really sad, when you have NO LIFE! 

Why do you keep referring to forum members by #1 and #2?   Why not just use their forum names?

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes. They can be bad of course, which is what codeine is for.

Yes I think strong painkillers usually do the trick but let's say for some women they don't? Then a letter from a GP or hospital consultant would suffice for sick leave.

I just think it's going to be taken advantage of. I really do.
It's something women have to deal with and they do say that light exercise does period pains the world of good....so perhaps going to work mKes some women feel better?

Horatio >>> Why do you keep referring to forum members by #1 and #2?   Why not just use their forum names?

aspca4ever wrote:

Horatio >>> Why do you keep referring to forum members by #1 and #2?   Why not just use their forum names?

A.) you've been given a dictate from a 'MODERATOR'

B.) WTF is it a concern of yours when "YOU'VE GOT A NOSE' for forum scum"...seriously --- your all over the dam place with your FLIP/FLOPPING thoughts!  
Give it Up and LET IT GO~~~

aspca4ever wrote:

Horatio >>> Why do you keep referring to forum members by #1 and #2?   Why not just use their forum names?

A.) you've been given a dictate from a 'MODERATOR'

B.) WTF is it a concern of yours when "YOU'VE GOT A NOSE' for forum scum"...seriously --- your all over the dam place with your FLIP/FLOPPING thoughts!  
Give it Up and LET IT GO~~~

aspca4ever wrote:WOW...what are you going to do;
BUST A CAPS LOCK ON MY ARSE ~~~ Seriously...
grow the hell up!  So beneath what I thought you were ---

HoratioTarr wrote:

aspca4ever wrote:WOW...what are you going to do;
BUST A CAPS LOCK ON MY ARSE ~~~ Seriously...
grow the hell up!  So beneath what I thought you were ---

It's a perfectly reasonable request.  Still no answer?

Just goes to show you don't ever really know who you're dealing with on forums, yes?

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

It's a perfectly reasonable request.  Still no answer?

Just goes to show you don't ever really know who you're dealing with on forums, yes?

I'd say you don't HT.  Making demands just ain't the way to go about it, and you're better than that anyway

HoratioTarr wrote:

sassy wrote:

I'd say you don't HT.  Making demands just ain't the way to go about it, and you're better than that anyway

I'm not demanding anything.  I'm asking.   Clearly, there's no answer to it. Which is understandable.

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

I'm not demanding anything.  I'm asking.   Clearly, there's no answer to it. Which is understandable.

Well, this is just a guess, but I'd say not dignifying them with names when they are behaving like trolls

Harotio stated >>> you keep banging on about the same old thing regard trolls #1 and #2.   Nobody cares.
1.) I'm not sure those you keep accusing of trolling give a hooter's shit about you either.  I'm beginning to believe you do have an agenda though.
2.)It's a perfectly reasonable request.  Still no answer?
Just goes to show you don't ever really know who you're dealing with on forums, yes?
3.)I'm not demanding anything.  I'm asking.  Clearly, there's no answer to it. Which is understandable.
4.)And you don't think that is being even more inflammatory and provoking?   I get that if someone gives you a hard time, you snap back or give as good as you get, but if one keeps it going on and on ad nauseam, expect to be challenged.  
You're right I don't care.  

I had replied >>> No, 'YOU' don't care; you cannot and do not speak for everyone!!! 
Now that would be, well just highly unlikely and totally inflammatory too...and I never assumed to post in such wide range generalizations!  LOL

Cass wrote:Well here's my take on this policy.

I've suffered terribly for years, more or less since I was 14. The only relief I got was when I was pregnant and then 3 years ago I had a endometrial ablasion which took care of some things but not others.

I am not going to go into graphic details - suffice to say that nothing worked whatsoever and there was no specific underlying condition. I was just one of those unfortunates who suffered from menorrhagia.

It's not a made up condition, it's not discrimination, it's real and it takes you out of life for a few days every month.

If women can get a letter from their doctors stating that they have this, then it should be good enough. It's not a sickness, it is a chronic condition.

What the #1 'Wrong On Every Level' seems oblivious to:
This is about a 'blood borne issue' --- not just some 'Oh, I've got a headache/back ache/I stubbed my toe' type of pain issue --- BLOOD is considered a BIO-Hazardous Contaminated Problem!!!  Why all emergency personnel wear GLOVES... Rolling Eyes

And all of the additional issues that both Horatio & Sassy have used for supporting the change in this POLICY...we have a 'Medical Leave' policy in the USA; granted not every company offers it - not every company even has paid sick days to use or lose - not every company will allow ANY ABSENTEEISM - PERIOD

I hired a young man that was a 'hemophiliac' {aka a bleeder}; he disclosed it on his employee packet and we discussed the proper protocol to handle the 'WHAT IFS' it should happen while he was on the job.  Since we provided X amount of sick leave days to accumulate {but they were to be used or lost at the end of the year or we'd buy them back as a bonus}...he had times where he had to leave ASAP from his job site ---
Humans have specific medical conditions that require specific methods to protect those that work around them and with the emergency staff that rushes in to care for them. BLOOD is one of those specific issues!  

It is a GOOD THING for companies that can afford to offer this!

HoratioTarr wrote:

sassy wrote:

Well, this is just a guess, but I'd say not dignifying them with names when they are behaving like trolls

And you don't think that is being even more inflammatory and provoking?   I get that if someone gives you a hard time, you snap back or give as good as you get, but if one keeps it going on and on ad nauseam, expect to be challenged.

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

And you don't think that is being even more inflammatory and provoking?   I get that if someone gives you a hard time, you snap back or give as good as you get, but if one keeps it going on and on ad nauseam, expect to be challenged.

Well, perhaps #1 troll and #2 troll is more polite than some of the other names used by others.  So how about we broaden it out to a general question to everyone like why do they use specsaver, Nazi, or Stassi for example?  Is #1 troll any worse than those?   And if not, why are you making a particular fuss about them?

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

And you don't think that is being even more inflammatory and provoking?   I get that if someone gives you a hard time, you snap back or give as good as you get, but if one keeps it going on and on ad nauseam, expect to be challenged.

Well, perhaps #1 troll and #2 troll is more polite than some of the other names used by others.  So how about we broaden it out to a general question to everyone like why do they use specsaver, Nazi, or Stassi for example?  Is #1 troll any worse than those?   And if not, why are you making a particular fuss about them?

Stormee wrote:

sassy wrote:


Well, perhaps #1 troll and #2 troll is more polite than some of the other names used by others.  So how about we broaden it out to a general question to everyone like why do they use specsaver, Nazi, or Stassi for example?  Is #1 troll any worse than those?   And if not, why are you making a particular fuss about them?

Pot kettle, how you have the audacity???????????????? you start things off EVERY time and you mouth is vile.

Stormee wrote:

sassy wrote:


Well, perhaps #1 troll and #2 troll is more polite than some of the other names used by others.  So how about we broaden it out to a general question to everyone like why do they use specsaver, Nazi, or Stassi for example?  Is #1 troll any worse than those?   And if not, why are you making a particular fuss about them?

Pot kettle, how you have the audacity???????????????? you start things off EVERY time and you mouth is vile.

sassy wrote:

Stormee wrote:

Pot kettle, how you have the audacity???????????????? you start things off EVERY time and you mouth is vile.

Oh do stick you head in anthill and bury it, this coming from a racist idiot who started the thread about ethnic cleansing.

sassy wrote:Look out look out, there's a Dodge Troll about

This post was made by Didge who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.

Stamp your feet dodgy troll, I can't hear you lol

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

And you don't think that is being even more inflammatory and provoking?   I get that if someone gives you a hard time, you snap back or give as good as you get, but if one keeps it going on and on ad nauseam, expect to be challenged.

Well, perhaps #1 troll and #2 troll is more polite than some of the other names used by others.  So how about we broaden it out to a general question to everyone like why do they use specsaver, Nazi, or Stassi for example?  Is #1 troll any worse than those?   And if not, why are you making a particular fuss about them?

HoratioTarr wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:U.K. COMPANY TO INTRODUCE MENSTRUAL LEAVE 'PERIOD POLICY'

Periods are still something of a taboo subject, especially in the workplace, but a community and arts center in Bristol is set to become the first company in the U.K. to introduce menstrual leave, allowing women time off work during their monthly cycle.

http://europe.newsweek.com/menstrual-leave-uk-company-introduce-period-policy-432588?rm=eu

Good idea?

What about leave for men and itchy bullocks?

Picture this.    Griping stomach pains, like the worse bellyache you've ever had, only tenfold.  Flooding blood.   Nausea sometimes with vomiting.  Headache.   Just a few of the symptoms a woman has to go through each month, particularly young women who haven't had kids yet.  The muscle spasms can be excruciating, akin to childbirth.  

Itchy bollocks?   You clearly don't have a girlfriend or wife.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Picture this: a sensation so scratchy that your hands grab your genitals as a "reflex" and if you don't, the sensation multiplies and becomes so excruciating that you are likely to pass out. Dizziness, disorientation. Just a few of the symptoms a man has to go through EACH DAY!

Imagine having no choice but to stick your hands down your underwear in the middle of staff meeting or crucial presentation.

Not sure if you're PMS'ing right now or you always have sand in your vagina but you're being utterly sexist.

I'd rather not picture it if you don't mind.

Didge wrote:

sassy wrote:


Oh do stick you head in anthill and bury it, this coming from a racist idiot who started the thread about ethnic cleansing.

Shut the fuck up 

What the fuck is wrong with you

Do you live daily to start fights

Grow the fuck up

Stormee wrote:

Didge wrote:


Shut the fuck up 

What the fuck is wrong with you

Do you live daily to start fights

Grow the fuck up

I asked you nicely, offud the olive branch to thee to stop insulting, trolling me, stalking me, effing me, bast me.
I told you I was not gonna take anymore of your nastiness without retaliation.
I have been fair with you.

You have opted to continue your vile tirades, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.

Hugz and kissiz. xxxxx