I'll just leave this here

Survation, the only poll to correctly predict the election.

According to http://electoralcalculus.co.uk this would mean Boris Johnson, Amber Rudd, Justine Greening and Philip Davies would all lose their seats

Definition of irony

Far lefties getting excited over a poll, which they claimed was useless when Tories were miles in the lead in polls before

Go figure

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

sassy wrote:

Survation, the only poll to correctly predict the election.

According to http://electoralcalculus.co.uk  this would mean Boris Johnson, Amber Rudd, Justine Greening and Philip Davies would all lose their seats

Didn't the polls say we would all vote remain and tump would lose??

Asking people to trust a Politician honesty?

This is Priceless

This is the mindset of the Corbyn lovers

John McDonnell was again unable to put a figure on the cost of nationalisation or on lifting the public sector pay cap this morning during a masterful skewering of Labour’s economic fantasies. Interviewed on Sunday With Paterson, McDonnell was first confronted on Labour’s slippery sums and their tendency to change.

Then the Shadow Chancellor repeated his mantra that nationalisation “will pay for itself”. He claimed it would be “cost free”…

Finally, McDonnell was unable to give a figure for lifting the public sector pay cap. He said: “we’ve costed it within the thing”…

Not a good interview, especially since the Shadow Chancellor has been asked the very same questions on his last few broadcast appearances. Must stop forgetting that iPad…

https://order-order.com/2017/12/03/mcdonnell-unable-cost-nationalisation-public-sector-pay/

Video's on link

You know you have really got them when they have to do a flurry of replies   corbyn way ahead of May in the approval ratings as well.  Suck it it up, all the ranting back won't change it.

sassy wrote:You know you have really got them when they have to do a flurry of replies   corbyn way ahead of May in the approval ratings as well.  Suck it it up, all the ranting back won't change it.

May is an idiot and so are the Tories.

How can you even compare Corbyn?

He is a terrorist sympathizer and also loves the socialism of Venezuela.

How is that working out for the people there sassy?

Yes, we can suck it up, just as sadly people are living through Trump.

We may have to live through Corbyn for 5 years.

The difference is, Trump will make very little difference. Corbyn will make a difference and ensure he wrecks our economy.

So please explain to the forum, how Labour is going to pay for its economy?

This post was made by Didge who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.


You still rattling on Dodge. You are so spooked lol

Can you imagine sports based on Corbyn Britain.

"Todays football results"

"Arsenal 15 Spurs 0"

Based on Maxist equality, the game is classed as a score draw.



"And England whitewash Australia in the Ashes, but we have decided to split the trophy in half, because everyone is a winner in cricket"



"Usain Bolt smashes the world record for a hundred meters,but it does not matter. All are equal and now every sprinter wins gold."



Now apply the same stupidity to the economy under Corbyn

sassy wrote:This post was made by Didge who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.


You still rattling on Dodge.   You are so spooked lol

You have him on ignore as well??

Snap

sassy wrote:This post was made by Didge who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.


You still rattling on Dodge.   You are so spooked lol

So she claims to have me on ignore and actually admits to seeing my post and reading it, as she has to by making such a reply



If I am so rattled, why is it that you cannot counter.
Is this just another example of Labours economic plan?

No answers to sound questions

smelly-bandit wrote:

sassy wrote:This post was made by Didge who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.


You still rattling on Dodge.   You are so spooked lol

You have him on ignore as well??

Snap

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Bless, my little sunshine needs a hug again



The reality is, there is little difference between you and sassy

You hate anyone left of the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging and she hates anyone right of Pol Pot

You hate Muslims and she hates Zionists

You both fail to combat ideologioes and instead, go off hate. To look to discriminate against people off this/

Now that is irony at its best

smelly-bandit wrote:

sassy wrote:This post was made by Didge who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.


You still rattling on Dodge.   You are so spooked lol

You have him on ignore as well??

Snap

Had him on ignore for ages. He can't help being a pontificatig know-nothing fool, but when you get someone who is a pontificating know-nothing fool and they have delusions of grandeur, it reaches the point where you'd be insane to give them any credence or allow them any of your time.

sassy wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

You have him on ignore as well??

Snap

Had him on ignore for ages.   He can't help being a pontificatig know-nothing fool, but when you get someone who is a pontificating know-nothing fool and they have delusions of grandeur, it reaches the point where you'd be insane to give them any credence or allow them any of your time.

Sassy spreads the love  

I love how people, can never counter my views, but attack the poster instead

I mean its like sassy is talking street cred crap talk

It reaches a point, where i just laught at how many excuses people make, When they cannot counter my reasoned views. That they have to make up bullshit and seek smelly, in order to get out of  proving how inept they are.

Bullshit surveys are for bullshit people...

smelly-bandit wrote:

sassy wrote:

Survation, the only poll to correctly predict the election.

According to http://electoralcalculus.co.uk  this would mean Boris Johnson, Amber Rudd, Justine Greening and Philip Davies would all lose their seats

Didn't the polls say we would all vote remain and tump would lose??

I remember Neil Kinnock strutting around a stage in Sheffield celebrating a great Labour victory on the strength of an exit poll...at the time that one of his aides at the side of the stage was desperately trying to attract his attention to tell him that Labour had, er, lost.

Opinion polls, particularly at this stage of a parliament, are virtually meaningless because, like all polls, they are based on pitifully small samples and do not take full account of the high percentage (I think it's about 30%) of traditionally mercurial "don't knows."

And anyway wasn't/isn't May a long way ahead of Corbyn in respondents' preference for PM?

Theresa May has so much going for her...

Nearly lost her last 'surprise !' election;

Keeps on protecting paedophiles (e.g. William Slim..);

Promising more corporate/billionaires' tax cuts;

Keeps on slashing the NHS and gov't services;

Refuses to investigate 'institutionalsed' child abuse;

Housing, food and energy costs keep rising, much faster than wages;

Brexit discussions dragging on..

Go the Tories  !!!        

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

Didn't the polls say we would all vote remain and tump would lose??

I remember Neil Kinnock strutting around a stage in Sheffield celebrating a great Labour victory on the strength of an exit poll...at the time that one of his aides at the side of the stage was desperately trying to attract his attention to tell him that Labour had, er, lost.

Opinion polls, particularly at this stage of a parliament, are virtually meaningless because, like all polls, they are based on pitifully small samples and do not take full account of the high percentage (I think it's about 30%) of traditionally mercurial "don't knows."

And anyway wasn't/isn't May a long way ahead of Corbyn in respondents' preference for PM?

Whenever I get asked I always say I'm voting labour.

I'd sooner crawl into the gutter to have sex with sassy than vote labour, but that's what I tell them.

Surely there will be others who will answer "don't know" for fear of some knuckle dragging labour thug finding out and coming for them.

Polls are nonsense

smelly-bandit wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

I remember Neil Kinnock strutting around a stage in Sheffield celebrating a great Labour victory on the strength of an exit poll...at the time that one of his aides at the side of the stage was desperately trying to attract his attention to tell him that Labour had, er, lost.

Opinion polls, particularly at this stage of a parliament, are virtually meaningless because, like all polls, they are based on pitifully small samples and do not take full account of the high percentage (I think it's about 30%) of traditionally mercurial "don't knows."

And anyway wasn't/isn't May a long way ahead of Corbyn in respondents' preference for PM?

Whenever I get asked I always say I'm voting labour.

I'd sooner crawl into the gutter to have sex with sassy than vote labour, but that's what I tell them.

Surely there will be others who will answer "don't know" for fear of some knuckle dragging labour thug finding out and coming for them.

Polls are nonsense

Apparently, according to 'er indoors, May was ahead of Corbyn but that position has now been reversed.

I mention it only because I at least try to be factual in my posts...even though I personally couldn't care a fish's tit who is ahead at this stage.

Polls and surveys...mirrors and lies.
Don't believe anything until you see it.

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Theresa May has so much going for her...

Nearly lost her last 'surprise !' election;

Keeps on protecting paedophiles (e.g. William Slim..);

Promising more corporate/billionaires' tax cuts;

Keeps on slashing the NHS and gov't services;

Refuses to investigate 'institutionalsed' child abuse;

Housing, food and energy costs keep rising, much faster than wages;

Brexit discussions dragging on..

Go the Tories  !!!        

As matter of interest and apropos of nothing in particular, does the Hertfordshire company Taylor Beehive Co have any presence in Oz?

It's just that I gather they were at one time a leading world company in beekeeping equipment, and I married into the family in the 1960s.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

Whenever I get asked I always say I'm voting labour.

I'd sooner crawl into the gutter to have sex with sassy than vote labour, but that's what I tell them.

Surely there will be others who will answer "don't know" for fear of some knuckle dragging labour thug finding out and coming for them.

Polls are nonsense

Apparently, according to 'er indoors, May was ahead of Corbyn but that position has now been reversed.

I mention it only because I at least try to be factual in my posts...even though I personally couldn't care a fish's tit who is ahead at this stage.

That's right

A few days ago the tories were well ahead, and now in less than a week where nothing has happened the polls the opposite story.

You send a pollster to Islington and he will come back with a poll saying labour are miles ahead, send that same pollster to a tory stronghold and it will show labour well behind.

What I do know is that if Labour win the only poll that matters, we are all fucked

Oh dear Smelly, lying doesn't help, none of that is the truth. Try doing some reading and research.

sassy wrote:Oh dear Smelly, lying doesn't help, none of that is the truth.   Try doing some reading and research.

I saw how the polls worked in regards to two of the most earth shattering events in modern political history.

They didn't work, that's the point

smelly-bandit wrote:

sassy wrote:Oh dear Smelly, lying doesn't help, none of that is the truth.   Try doing some reading and research.

I saw how the polls worked in regards to two of the most earth shattering events in modern political history.

They didn't work, that's the point

But Survation got it right, that's rather the point.

sassy wrote:Oh dear Smelly, lying doesn't help, none of that is the truth.   Try doing some reading and research.

Blimey, you fear me and combat smelly in debate?

Wow, what a compliment.

Didge wrote:John McDonnell was again unable to put a figure on the cost of nationalisation or on lifting the public sector pay cap this morning during a masterful skewering of Labour’s economic fantasies. Interviewed on Sunday With Paterson, McDonnell was first confronted on Labour’s slippery sums and their tendency to change.

Then the Shadow Chancellor repeated his mantra that nationalisation “will pay for itself”. He claimed it would be “cost free”…

Finally, McDonnell was unable to give a figure for lifting the public sector pay cap. He said: “we’ve costed it within the thing”…

Not a good interview, especially since the Shadow Chancellor has been asked the very same questions on his last few broadcast appearances. Must stop forgetting that iPad…

https://order-order.com/2017/12/03/mcdonnell-unable-cost-nationalisation-public-sector-pay/

Video's on link

Now can any worshipper of Corbyn make a case for the ecomony?

Even that former athiest,Eilzel, who now prays 5 times a day to Corbyn?

sassy wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

I saw how the polls worked in regards to two of the most earth shattering events in modern political history.

They didn't work, that's the point

But Survation got it right, that's rather the point.

Survation got lucky.

Its illogical to say every other pollster hit it wrong except for one.

If Survation use a radically different method to poll then they might be right more often than not, if they use similar techniques and models then they got lucky.

Polls don't work, except of course when they are polling in your favour eh sassy??

The poll was before the increased pressure from her cabinet to requestion Green to resign, and before the entire social mobility task force, an all party group, resigned en mass , as a protest over the government's inavtion.
I have nothing personal against May. She isn't nasty like Cameron , Osborn, Boris, Gove, Khunt, IDS, WRM, but my goodness she is SO weak.
She needs to grow a pair and just sack him, prior to more dirt being uncovered.

smelly-bandit wrote:

sassy wrote:


But Survation got it right, that's rather the point.

Survation got lucky.

Its illogical to say every other pollster hit it wrong except for one.

If Survation use a radically different method to poll then they might be right more often than not, if they use similar techniques and models then they got lucky.

Polls don't work, except of course when they are polling in your favour eh sassy??

Funnily enough, Survation do use a different method. Not only did they get the GE17 right, they

Were the most accurate polling company in the Scottish Independence Referendum
Produced a 52% Leave figure for the EU Referendum a week prior to polling day, as well as 52% leave figure for clients on the day itself
Conducted a telephone poll the night before General Election 2015 which correctly caught the Conservative lead over Labour
Produced highly accurate final polling for the Holyrood 2016 elections


So far, their record is pretty accurate.

sassy wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

Survation got lucky.

Its illogical to say every other pollster hit it wrong except for one.

If Survation use a radically different method to poll then they might be right more often than not, if they use similar techniques and models then they got lucky.

Polls don't work, except of course when they are polling in your favour eh sassy??

Funnily enough, Survation do use a different method.   Not only did they get the GE17 right, they

Were the most accurate polling company in the Scottish Independence Referendum
Produced a 52% Leave figure for the EU Referendum a week prior to polling day, as well as 52% leave figure for clients on the day itself
Conducted a telephone poll the night before General Election 2015 which correctly caught the Conservative lead over Labour
Produced highly accurate final polling for the Holyrood 2016 elections


So far, their record is pretty accurate.

Actually, they are the least accurate on record over time

Anyway, most people rightly see Corbyn, for the terrorist supporting antisemitic scum that he is

In time others will as well

sassy wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

Survation got lucky.

Its illogical to say every other pollster hit it wrong except for one.

If Survation use a radically different method to poll then they might be right more often than not, if they use similar techniques and models then they got lucky.

Polls don't work, except of course when they are polling in your favour eh sassy??

Funnily enough, Survation do use a different method.   Not only did they get the GE17 right, they

Were the most accurate polling company in the Scottish Independence Referendum
Produced a 52% Leave figure for the EU Referendum a week prior to polling day, as well as 52% leave figure for clients on the day itself
Conducted a telephone poll the night before General Election 2015 which correctly caught the Conservative lead over Labour
Produced highly accurate final polling for the Holyrood 2016 elections


So far, their record is pretty accurate.

What different method??

The crystal ball method.

Polls do not work, they can only give a very loose idea of what's about to happen.

Polls are political in nature, and are used as propaganda for political parties.

If pollsters were impartial and had any integrity they might be somewhat reliable to gauge the mood, but they aren't impartial which is why they are unreliable

Didge wrote:This is Priceless

This is the mindset of the Corbyn lovers

I can't listen Didge - it makes my blood boil lol