Pope Francis Suggests Donald Trump Is ‘Not Christian’
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Pope Francis Suggests Donald Trump Is ‘Not Christian’
ABOARD THE PAPAL AIRLINER — Inserting himself into the Republican presidential race, Pope Francis on Wednesday suggested that Donald J. Trump “is not Christian” because of the harshness of his campaign promises to deport more immigrants and force Mexico to pay for a wall along the border.
“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian,”
Francis said when a reporter asked him about Mr. Trump on the papal airliner as he returned to Rome after his six-day visit to Mexico.
The pope’s remarks came during a wide-ranging, midair news conference in which he also waded into the question of whether the Roman Catholic Church should grant an exception to its prohibitions on abortion and birth control in regions where the Zika virus is causing a public health emergency, including in much of Catholic-dominated Latin America.
Researchers say pregnant women are especially at risk, noting that the virus may be responsible for a spike in cases of microcephaly, a condition in which newborns have unusually small heads and brains.
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People tried to get a glimpse of Pope Francis as he left the outdoor Mass in Ciudad Juárez on Wednesday. Credit Gregory Bull/Associated Press
In answering the question, Francis made a distinction between abortion and birth control. He flatly ruled out condoning abortion, which he described as “a crime, an absolute evil.” But he seemed more open to making an exception for contraception, citing Pope Paul VI’s decision in the 1960s to make an emergency exception and permit nuns in the Belgian Congo to use contraceptives because they were in danger of rape.
“Avoiding pregnancy is not an absolute evil,” Francis said. “In certain cases, as in this one, as in that one I mentioned of Blessed Paul VI, it was clear. I would also urge doctors to do their utmost to find vaccines against these mosquitoes that carry this disease.”
Francis’ comments on Mr. Trump and the possibility of using contraceptives to prevent the spread of the Zika virus are certain to garner strong reactions. On Thursday, the World Health Organization advised the sexual partners of pregnant women to use condoms or abstain from sex if they live in Zika-affected areas or are returning from them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/world/americas/pope-francis-donald-trump-christian.html
Well he ain't wrong about that. Does Trump claim to be Christian? If he does, he's showing no sign of being one.
“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian,”
Francis said when a reporter asked him about Mr. Trump on the papal airliner as he returned to Rome after his six-day visit to Mexico.
The pope’s remarks came during a wide-ranging, midair news conference in which he also waded into the question of whether the Roman Catholic Church should grant an exception to its prohibitions on abortion and birth control in regions where the Zika virus is causing a public health emergency, including in much of Catholic-dominated Latin America.
Researchers say pregnant women are especially at risk, noting that the virus may be responsible for a spike in cases of microcephaly, a condition in which newborns have unusually small heads and brains.
Photo
People tried to get a glimpse of Pope Francis as he left the outdoor Mass in Ciudad Juárez on Wednesday. Credit Gregory Bull/Associated Press
In answering the question, Francis made a distinction between abortion and birth control. He flatly ruled out condoning abortion, which he described as “a crime, an absolute evil.” But he seemed more open to making an exception for contraception, citing Pope Paul VI’s decision in the 1960s to make an emergency exception and permit nuns in the Belgian Congo to use contraceptives because they were in danger of rape.
“Avoiding pregnancy is not an absolute evil,” Francis said. “In certain cases, as in this one, as in that one I mentioned of Blessed Paul VI, it was clear. I would also urge doctors to do their utmost to find vaccines against these mosquitoes that carry this disease.”
Francis’ comments on Mr. Trump and the possibility of using contraceptives to prevent the spread of the Zika virus are certain to garner strong reactions. On Thursday, the World Health Organization advised the sexual partners of pregnant women to use condoms or abstain from sex if they live in Zika-affected areas or are returning from them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/world/americas/pope-francis-donald-trump-christian.html
Well he ain't wrong about that. Does Trump claim to be Christian? If he does, he's showing no sign of being one.
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As Dr. Obama said in his press conference in California yesterday, most of Europe is shocked by the temper of the Republican debate. The Pope is no exception.
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I find it utterly sick and twisted. And, to be honest, utterly frightening that such vile people stand even the smallest chance of being in the White House.
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Some people might say the Pope is not a Christian. It's all a bit silly - it's not a competition.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Some people might say the Pope is not a Christian. It's all a bit silly - it's not a competition.
As normal Rags, you miss the point by a mile.
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sassy wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:Some people might say the Pope is not a Christian. It's all a bit silly - it's not a competition.
As normal Rags, you miss the point by a mile.
There doesn't appear to be a point to this thread ...
Would you like to actually make a proper comment about the "story"?
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Raggamuffin wrote:sassy wrote:
As normal Rags, you miss the point by a mile.
There doesn't appear to be a point to this thread ...
Would you like to actually make a proper comment about the "story"?
Think you have just proved my point. Trump claims to be a christian, it's rather important in a Republican if he wants to get elected, yet the views he expresses are diametrically opposed to the teachings of Jesus.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Some people might say the Pope is not a Christian. It's all a bit silly - it's not a competition.
they would be stupid people then wouldn't they
And the Pope is only stating the obvious if you openly contradict the words of christ you are not Christian
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It's not up to the Pope to decide who's a Christian and who isn't.
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Stormee wrote:It is up to the individual, Miss Ragga.
just thinking, around here 4/5 oldiz go to church on Sunday mornings if they can get a lift.
Apart from them I do not know anyone else who does go to church.
When I was young quite a few went, are the congregations getting smaller do you think?
I'm not sure Stormee. I think there a lot of "alternative" churches these days which seem quite popular.
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Raggamuffin wrote:It's not up to the Pope to decide who's a Christian and who isn't.
well actually IT IS
and besides that there is the defintion
Saying your christrian doesn't make you christian and more than saying you're a turnip makes you a turnip
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veya_victaous wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:It's not up to the Pope to decide who's a Christian and who isn't.
well actually IT IS
and besides that there is the defintion
Saying your christrian doesn't make you christian and more than saying you're a turnip makes you a turnip
Why is it up to the Pope? He doesn't speak for all Christians.
If Trump believes that Jesus is the Son of God, etc, then he's a Christian.
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