Petition to Ban Trump from Coming to UK gets over 25,000 signatures in 2 hours

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:11 am

First topic message reminder :

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003

At this rate it will reach 100,000 in a couple of days and have to be debated in House of Commons. The Government already have to respond to it, that have to do that at 10,000. Reached that in less than an hour lol.

by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:34 pm

eddie wrote:I think it's ridiculous! Banning someone for not liking his opinion???

Isn't that what he's doing to Muslims?

People are so fucking stupid

That's lefties for you. lol!

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:44 pm

eddie wrote:I think it's ridiculous! Banning someone for not liking his opinion???

Isn't that what he's doing to Muslims?

People are so fucking stupid

That's the whole point. Showing him that his ridiculous views can end up affecting him as well and the position is reversed.

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:20 pm

Sassy, I do not know you but can I respectfully ask you a personal question?

"Are you a Muslim"?

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:22 pm

Stormee wrote:Sassy, I do not know you but can I respectfully ask you a personal question?

"Are you a Muslim"?

No, I'm a Pagan

by Victorismyhero Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:28 pm

I think we should let him come....

then we can throw eggs at him... Laughing

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:33 pm

Lord Foul wrote:I think we should let him come....

then we can throw eggs at him...

It's just under 300,000 now, this one is going to run and run!

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:33 pm

sassy wrote:
Stormee wrote:Sassy, I do not know you but can I respectfully ask you a personal question?

"Are you a Muslim"?

No, I'm a Pagan

a town in Burma, situated on the Irrawaddy south-east of Mandalay. It is the site of an ancient city, founded in about ad 849, which was the capital of a powerful Buddhist dynasty from the 11th to the end of the 13th centuries.

Seems a nice place olive.

Ah, I see, Thank you

by eddie Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:35 pm

I can't see the petition holding any water apart from the wet pissy comments people make on the petition form.
You simply can't ban someone from having an opinion.

All it's doing is giving him free publicity.

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:58 pm

Nope, it was hate speech, divisive, nasty and just plain wrong. Really glad Nicola Sturgeon has told him to go to hell.

by Major Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:24 pm

sassy wrote:Nope, it was hate speech, divisive, nasty and just plain wrong. Really glad Nicola Sturgeon has told him to go to hell.

She's a Jock, who will, like yourself ALWAYS go against us Englanders, so she doesn't count..

by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:50 pm

Stormee wrote:
sassy wrote:Nope, it was hate speech, divisive, nasty and just plain wrong. Really glad Nicola Sturgeon has told him to go to hell.

She's a Jock, who will, like yourself ALWAYS go against us Englanders, so she doesn't count..

Oh, I'll gladly go against Englanders like you, because I know you ain't no real Englander, if we were all like you this country would be nothing and would deserve to rot.

by nicko Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:56 pm

There are about 500.000 votes to keep him out, what they don't tell you is there are about 600.000 votes to let him in. Personly I don't give a shit either way!

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:41 pm

It's now at just under 550,000. Perhaps you would like to show proof of your 600,000 that want him.

by eddie Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:53 pm

Oh it's just ridiculous!

He wants to keep Muslims out and people get the hump about human rights and so want to keep another human out of their country??

Hypocritical twats.

by nicko Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:54 pm

SASS, I read it in The B,ham Mail, but as I said I don't care either way, only it doesn't seem fair, that Choudry bloke can go around preaching hate much worse that Trump and I don't see as much hate directed at him, do you?

by eddie Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:58 pm

I don't agree with what he said, I think it's stupid and nasty, but it's an opinion.
You can't stop people saying what they want.

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:59 pm

I see a lot of hate directed at him, from all sides, basically because he's a pillock. But he is a citizen, Trump isn't, and we have kept a lot of people out because of their views Nicko.

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:00 pm

eddie wrote:I don't agree with what he said, I think it's stupid and nasty, but it's an opinion.
You can't stop people saying what they want.

You can if it's going to stir up racial hatred and cause violence, and it would and will.

by eddie Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:12 pm

sassy wrote:
eddie wrote:I don't agree with what he said, I think it's stupid and nasty, but it's an opinion.
You can't stop people saying what they want.

You can if it's going to stir up racial hatred and cause violence, and it would and will.

It's silly to ban someone becasue you don't agree with them banning someone though?
It's just hypocritical

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:15 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:

You can if it's going to stir up racial hatred and cause violence, and it would and will.

It's silly to ban someone becasue you don't agree with them banning someone though?
It's just hypocritical

If it was just something I disagreed with, wouldn't be a problem. It's the potential for incitement to violence that's the problem.

by eddie Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:30 pm

sassy wrote:
eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:

You can if it's going to stir up racial hatred and cause violence, and it would and will.

It's silly to ban someone becasue you don't agree with them banning someone though?
It's just hypocritical

If it was just something I disagreed with, wouldn't be a problem. It's the potential for incitement to violence that's the problem.

Every single so-called "negative" opinion on immigration or refugees then, could be a potential for incitement to violence?

I find it ridiculous!

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:34 pm

So basically those who agree that he should be banned, should also agree that we throughly vet those coming into our country and if they hold extreme views that are incitment to hatred, whether they be religious or polictial should be denied entry to this country?
Also if after gaining entry and they have lied and are found to be promoting extremism, they should be immediatelly deported then?

by eddie Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:36 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So basically those who agree that he should be banned, should also agree that we throughly vet those coming into our country and if they hold extreme views that are incitment to hatred, whether they be religious or polictial should be denied entry to this country?
Also if after gaining entry and they have lied and are found to be promoting extremism, they should be immediatelly deported then?

Exactly. Excellent points didge actually
Green for that

Anyone care to answer?

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:43 pm

eddie wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:So basically those who agree that he should be banned, should also agree that we throughly vet those coming into our country and if they hold extreme views that are incitment to hatred, whether they be religious or polictial should be denied entry to this country?
Also if after gaining entry and they have lied and are found to be promoting extremism, they should be immediatelly deported then?

Exactly. Excellent points didge actually
Green for that

Anyone care to answer?

Thank you eddie, but the left will now even more hate my next point.
If we know a proportion of a people hold racist hateful views, that promote and incite violence against a group of people then also they should be denied entry as well, surely, as this is extremist hatred?

http://global100.adl.org/#map/meast

The above is the level of racist hatred held by many Middle East people.
So should we accept refugees that hold such hateful racist views?

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:46 pm

I mean if you are going to ban people for holding derisive views against Muslims, the same should apply to anyone who holds derisive views against any group.

The level of antisemitism.

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by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:54 pm

I mean lets have some honest here.
Why have the left never objected to a substancial amount of Muslims gaining entry to this country if they hold racist extreme views?
Does this rationality become only applicable to white western people to ban entry for racist views?
You see this is why more and more people are coming to see that a significant amout of lefties are the biggest hypocrites going who never speak out on racists, if they are classified non-white.

by eddie Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:06 pm

I agree entirely.

by Major Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:59 pm

I agree entirely.

by Tommy Monk Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:05 pm

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-immigration-survey-idUKBREA0600F20140107

by Major Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:12 pm

Tommy, they survey gives a figure but EVERY person I speak to say they want it stopped entirely.
I believe I could ask 100 people and they would ALL say NO MORE.

I am at a party on Boxing Day and if this subject crops, and it will, up I will get a vote and tell you, I bet it is 100%

by Tommy Monk Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:18 pm

The lefties think that the wishes of 1% of population deserves action... but the wishes of 75% should be ignored...

by Ben Reilly Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:30 pm

eddie wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:So basically those who agree that he should be banned, should also agree that we throughly vet those coming into our country and if they hold extreme views that are incitment to hatred, whether they be religious or polictial should be denied entry to this country?
Also if after gaining entry and they have lied and are found to be promoting extremism, they should be immediatelly deported then?

Exactly. Excellent points didge actually
Green for that

Anyone care to answer?

Sure, I think anybody who the UK government deems as a likely risk of inciting violence should probably be kept out of the country.

The real question should be, is there any evidence that Trump might incite violence? Well, he has in the U.S.

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:38 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:

Exactly. Excellent points didge actually
Green for that

Anyone care to answer?

Sure, I think anybody who the UK government deems as a likely risk of inciting violence should probably be kept out of the country.

The real question should be, is there any evidence that Trump might incite violence? Well, he has in the U.S.

But in the UK we have had hate preachers be allowed to enter and speak at even Universities and I am yet to see the left organise many petitions to stop them entering the country on the media attention level we have seen with Trump.
We rightly saw Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer banned, where again a petition was raised.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/11870429/British-universities-that-give-the-floor-to-extremist-speakers-are-named-and-shamed.html

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/sep/20/westminster-university-islamic-students-society-ultra-conservative-Muslims

I think Ben, some are rightly pissed off with the hypocrisy.
The same rule should apply for all who hold extreme views

by Victorismyhero Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:41 pm

do you have evidence of a causal link....

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:42 pm

Lord Foul wrote:do you have evidence of a causal link....

Hi Victor

I you asking me or ben?

Not clear and what you mean?

by Victorismyhero Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:43 pm

oh no didge...cant do that ...It will "radicalise them"

by Ben Reilly Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:43 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:

Exactly. Excellent points didge actually
Green for that

Anyone care to answer?

Sure, I think anybody who the UK government deems as a likely risk of inciting violence should probably be kept out of the country.

The real question should be, is there any evidence that Trump might incite violence? Well, he has in the U.S.

But in the UK we have had hate preachers be allowed to enter and speak at even Universities and I am yet to see the left organise many petitions to stop them entering the country on the media attention level we have seen with Trump.
We rightly saw Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer banned, where again a petition was raised.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/11870429/British-universities-that-give-the-floor-to-extremist-speakers-are-named-and-shamed.html

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/sep/20/westminster-university-islamic-students-society-ultra-conservative-Muslims

I think Ben, some are rightly pissed off with the hypocrisy.
The same rule should apply for all who hold extreme views

Not being from the UK, I can sit back and say treat everyone the same. If there's proof someone will incite violence, don't let them come.

by Victorismyhero Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:43 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:do you have evidence of a causal link....

Hi Victor

I you asking me or ben?

Not clear and what you mean?

was asking ben

by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:44 pm

No problem, catch you later

by Ben Reilly Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:45 pm

Lord Foul wrote:do you have evidence of a causal link....

There was the crowd at the Trump rally who beat up a Black Lives Matter protester ... there were the brothers who beat up the Hispanic homeless guy and stated that "Trump is right." I think there are others as well.

by nicko Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:59 pm

Those that would incite violence are already here!

by Victorismyhero Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:30 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:do you have evidence of a causal link....

There was the crowd at the Trump rally who beat up a Black Lives Matter protester ... there were the brothers who beat up the Hispanic homeless guy and stated that "Trump is right." I think there are others as well.

thats pretty conclusive...

so now....

lock him up for inciting violent race hate....

surely even YOU have laws against that???

by Victorismyhero Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:55 pm

Lets face it, even your national bird cant abide the prat

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