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Post by Guest Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:28 pm

Yes i did bring it up sassy as the debate had long sinced derailed or you may want to go back to when it did.

Yes give up and dont ever dare excuse me of shit again when you are not fit to wipe your own backside

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Post by eddie Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:35 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Yes i did bring it up sassy as the debate had long sinced derailed or you may want to go back to when it did.

Yes give up and dont ever dare excuse me of shit again when you are not fit to wipe your own backside

Wow. So angry. Why do you get so angry all the time?
You are always so angry and abusive.

I don't care didge. I have alot going in my life as it is, always busy, to even begin going into this meaningless drivel with you.
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:42 pm

eddie wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:Yes i did bring it up sassy as the debate had long sinced derailed or you may want to go back to when it did.

Yes give up and dont ever dare excuse me of shit again when you are not fit to wipe your own backside

Wow. So angry. Why do you get so angry all the time?
You are always so angry and abusive.

I don't care didge. I have alot going in my life as it is, always busy, to even begin going into this meaningless drivel with you.


Angry

I am telling you straight Eddie, do not dare accuse me as you did falsey when it was veya that banned them and you did not even have the guts to apoplogise.
It just shows to me more that power goes to much to your head.
If its meaningless you would not have bored with your inane hypocrical bull for the last hour

Now run along and play, there is a good girl.

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Post by eddie Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:43 pm

Okay. I will in along and play.
That's the wisest thing you've said today.
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:46 pm

Wise?
When you understand hypocrisy and double standards and how you are not the only one that views certain threads important, then you might begin to understand what it means to be wise.

On that I wish you the best of luck in finding.

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Post by Original Quill Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:46 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Yes i did bring it up sassy as the debate had long sinced derailed or you may want to go back to when it did.

Yes give up and dont ever dare excuse me of shit again when you are not fit to wipe your own backside

Didge, you know better than that. Such language! It's Friday...have you had a few tonight??? You're not usually this hostile.

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Post by eddie Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:48 pm

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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Yes i did bring it up sassy as the debate had long sinced derailed or you may want to go back to when it did.

Yes give up and dont ever dare excuse me of shit again when you are not fit to wipe your own backside

Didge, you know better than that.  Such language!  It's Friday...have you had a few tonight???  You're not usually this hostile.

Yes he is Quill. Where have you been????
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Post by Original Quill Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:49 pm

eddie wrote:
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Didge, you know better than that.  Such language!  It's Friday...have you had a few tonight???  You're not usually this hostile.

Yes he is Quill. Where have you been????

It's morning here...9:45. I've just been over on the Calif. shooting thread, talking with Raggs.

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Post by Guest Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:50 pm

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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Yes i did bring it up sassy as the debate had long sinced derailed or you may want to go back to when it did.

Yes give up and dont ever dare excuse me of shit again when you are not fit to wipe your own backside

Didge, you know better than that.  Such language!  It's Friday...have you had a few tonight???  You're not usually this hostile.


When you apologise for the vile language you have said to both Nicko and Victor, then I might then begin to listen to you.

Again another one who fails to understand hypocrisy and double standards.

For my comment to eddie about wiping her arse i apologise which at least i am able to do.

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Post by eddie Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:50 pm

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eddie wrote:
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Didge, you know better than that.  Such language!  It's Friday...have you had a few tonight???  You're not usually this hostile.

Yes he is Quill. Where have you been????

It's morning here...9:45.  I've just been over on the Calif. shooting thread, talking with Raggs.

Erm I meant where have you been in general? Are you on a wind up? scratch
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:52 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Didge, you know better than that.  Such language!  It's Friday...have you had a few tonight???  You're not usually this hostile.

Yes he is Quill. Where have you been????


You see so unwise

When has he ever apologised for the vile comments he has made to both Nicko and Victor

Like I say, no understanding of hypocrisy and double standards, though keep searching as I hope you come to learn them,

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Post by Original Quill Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:54 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

It's morning here...9:45.  I've just been over on the Calif. shooting thread, talking with Raggs.

Erm I meant where have you been in general? Are you on a wind up? scratch

Wind up?  I don't know what you mean. No...I'm just trying to cool things down.

Raggs and I have been having an excellent (well...for amateurs), fact-oriented discussion about the San Bernardino incident(s), and trying to figure or sort things out.

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Post by eddie Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:21 pm

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eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

It's morning here...9:45.  I've just been over on the Calif. shooting thread, talking with Raggs.

Erm I meant where have you been in general? Are you on a wind up? scratch

Wind up?  I don't know what you mean.  No...I'm just trying to cool things down.

Raggs and I have been having an excellent (well...for amateurs), fact-oriented discussion about the San Bernardino incident(s), and trying to figure or sort things out.

Lol yes I know, I am there on the same thread!!???? scratch

Seriously, there is something in the water tonight.
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Post by Original Quill Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:24 pm

eddie wrote:
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Wind up?  I don't know what you mean.  No...I'm just trying to cool things down.

Raggs and I have been having an excellent (well...for amateurs), fact-oriented discussion about the San Bernardino incident(s), and trying to figure or sort things out.

Lol yes I know, I am there on the same thread!!???? scratch

Seriously, there is something in the water tonight.

lol!

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:48 am

Stormee wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/republicans/12052760/republican-debate-donald-trump-las-vegas.html

Good for you Donald, look after your own people, bugga the rest.

He sticks to his guns, I'll give him that. He's not being vague in the hope that a lot of people won't understand what he's saying and ignore the issue when they vote. He's taking a big gamble though - he must either hope that a lot of people agree with him or he doesn't actually care about being President.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:56 pm

He's asking for a government policy based upon religious preference. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion or impeding the free exercise of religion. In effect, Trump is proposing allowing all other religions easy access to the US, while restricting access for Muslims. Like it or not, he would have to propose an amendment to the Constitution. A lot of trouble for just a temporary measure.

The other big issue is, how does he propose to implement this law? Any terrorist bent on a mission to harm the US will simply deny that he is a Muslim...

Thank you very much, sir, you may pass...

Hardly effective.

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:58 pm

Original Quill wrote:He's asking for a government policy based upon religious preference.  The First Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion or impeding the free exercise of religion.  In effect, Trump is proposing allowing all other religions easy access to the US, while restricting access for Muslims.  Like it or not, he would have to propose an amendment to the Constitution.  A lot of trouble for just a temporary measure.

The other big issue is, how does he propose to implement this law?  Any terrorist bent on a mission to harm the US will simply deny that he is a Muslim...

Thank you very much, sir, you may pass...

Hardly effective.

He says it's a security issue, not a religious one.

I don't think it could be enforced though.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:02 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:He's asking for a government policy based upon religious preference.  The First Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion or impeding the free exercise of religion.  In effect, Trump is proposing allowing all other religions easy access to the US, while restricting access for Muslims.  Like it or not, he would have to propose an amendment to the Constitution.  A lot of trouble for just a temporary measure.

The other big issue is, how does he propose to implement this law?  Any terrorist bent on a mission to harm the US will simply deny that he is a Muslim...

Thank you very much, sir, you may pass...

Hardly effective.

He says it's a security issue, not a religious one.

If it's not religious-based, then he will have no objection to dropping the Muslim qualification. After all, it's not a religious issue.

Then...what? We just restrict access to all people, of whatever religious persuasion??

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:06 pm

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He says it's a security issue, not a religious one.

If it's not religious-based, then he will have no objection to dropping the Muslim qualification.  After all, it's not a religious issue.  

Then...what?  We just restrict access to all people, of whatever religious persuasion??

Sounds like a good idea to me, but then I'm not in America. Laughing
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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:11 pm

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If it's not religious-based, then he will have no objection to dropping the Muslim qualification.  After all, it's not a religious issue.  

Then...what?  We just restrict access to all people, of whatever religious persuasion??

Sounds like a good idea to me, but then I'm not in America. Laughing

lol! By the look of things, we are getting there. Since Scalia was appointed to the Supreme Court, I've been wondering about those Italians.

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Post by eddie Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:08 pm

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Stormee wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/republicans/12052760/republican-debate-donald-trump-las-vegas.html

Good for you Donald, look after your own people, bugga the rest.

He sticks to his guns, I'll give him that. He's not being vague in the hope that a lot of people won't understand what he's saying and ignore the issue when they vote. He's taking a big gamble though - he must either hope that a lot of people agree with him or he doesn't actually care about being President.

Look at the end of the day he's fresh air in a plastic world. I don't like him, I don't like what he says but by God at least he has some free-thinking going on in his head and he isn't a little robot.

I wish we could have a non-robot in charge of our country!
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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:13 pm

eddie wrote:
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Stormee wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/republicans/12052760/republican-debate-donald-trump-las-vegas.html

Good for you Donald, look after your own people, bugga the rest.

He sticks to his guns, I'll give him that. He's not being vague in the hope that a lot of people won't understand what he's saying and ignore the issue when they vote. He's taking a big gamble though - he must either hope that a lot of people agree with him or he doesn't actually care about being President.

Look at the end of the day he's fresh air in a plastic world. I don't like him, I don't like what he says but by God at least he has some free-thinking going on in his head and he isn't a little robot.

I wish we could have a non-robot in charge of our country!

Really? His rhetoric is as close to Hitler as we've had in this country in a very long time.

Requiring people to carry an ID that records their religion? Keeping people of a certain religion in a database?

Check out the point about leprechauns in this video -- it's funny because it's true:

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Post by Victorismyhero Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:14 pm

I may not like what a man says, but i'll defend to the death his right to say it

and of course , by the same token he wont mind me saying I think he's a cnut
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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:19 pm

Lord Foul wrote:I may not like what a man says, but i'll defend to the death his right to say it

and of course , by the same token he wont mind me saying I think he's a cnut

Actually he would, he's very sensitive and lashes out publicly at anyone who criticizes him. Just what we want in a president, of course.
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Post by Victorismyhero Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:27 pm

hmmm....that was sarcasm Ben......
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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:48 pm

eddie wrote:
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He sticks to his guns, I'll give him that. He's not being vague in the hope that a lot of people won't understand what he's saying and ignore the issue when they vote. He's taking a big gamble though - he must either hope that a lot of people agree with him or he doesn't actually care about being President.

Look at the end of the day he's fresh air in a plastic world. I don't like him, I don't like what he says but by God at least he has some free-thinking going on in his head and he isn't a little robot.

I wish we could have a non-robot in charge of our country!

But everything is negative with him. I was listening to his speech before last night's debate, and he didn't have a single positive reference. He's against this; he's against that; but no reference to anything that would be better. He's going deport Mexicans (and perhaps Muslims); he certainly doesn't want Muslims entering the country; he's against women who don't talk nice to him--especially when they are menstruating (Megyn Kelly); he wants to eliminate the Environmental Protection Agency ("what they do is a disgrace"); he wants to shut down Planned Parenthood, and he's against abortion (after flip-flopping from pro-choice); he's against any soldiers who got captured, like John McCain; he's against Gay marriage and says there should be no same-sex benefits; he is against animal rights; he wants to keep the prisons packed with non-violent offenders; he wants to cut education spending; he thinks climate change is a hoax; he wants to "kill ObamaCare before it becomes a trillion-ton weight" (Dec 2011); and he hates blacks. I mean...what's left to cheer about?

He doesn't have any particular skill. He doesn't know diplomacy. He knows nothing about the military. He believes, "we must deal with the maniac in North Korea with nukes..." (Sep 2015). He wants to "let Russia bash ISIS; let Germany defend Ukraine..." (Nov 2015). He thinks "gun-free zones are target practice for sickos..." (Oct 2015). Seems he would leave the world in a worse way after all was said and done.

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Post by eddie Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:55 pm

Well the "period" thing was a joke, people should just lighten up tbh.

As for him having nothing positive to say, I will say I agree with you; can't stand negative people and you make a fair point in that regard.

As to the other stuff, well, to be frank Quill, perhaps even Obama agrees with some of it - you'd never know because he'd never say.
And that's what I mean by at least Trump says what he thinks.

For the record again, I'm not defending trump - I dislike him.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:10 pm

eddie wrote:Well the "period" thing was a joke, people should just lighten up tbh.

Of course, and let GWB play grab-ass with Angela Merkel. Maybe a titty-grab of your Queen. There's something to be said about propriety.

eddie wrote:As for him having nothing positive to say, I will say I agree with you; can't stand negative people and you make a fair point in that regard.

As to the other stuff, well, to be frank Quill, perhaps even Obama agrees with some of it - you'd never know because he'd never say.
And that's what I mean by at least Trump says what he thinks.

For the record again, I'm not defending trump - I dislike him.

Obama is simply smart. He keeps quiet. What's to say? He's not up for election anymore. He's positioned the US in a chess game with Congress, to get things exactly as he wants them. No more war. He's used executive action to reform immigration. And Hillary will win the presidency in 2016.


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Post by Andy Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:10 am

Trump hates Muslims and blacks.
Not sure he would be welcome in Cumbria at present.
Just saw this on my Facebook.

""Bloody foreigners" coming up to Cumbria with all their donations and supplies..

"Bloody foreigners" driving half the length of the country, at their own expense I hasten to add, helping all the flood victims clear their homes.

"Bloody foreigners" bringing their mobile food vans from miles away and then having the affront to actually give really tasty and enjoyable food to those who don't even have a house let alone a kitchen to cook in.

"Bloody foreigners" of all colours, creeds and religions helping all those people in Cumbria (and Lancashire and south Scotland) of all colours, creeds and religions in the aid centres by helping then get themselves back together.

I say one thing to you all. THANK YOU for being superb members of our one BRITISH community.

Being British is not about colour or creed or religion it's about the attitude of all pulling together through adversity whoever we are."

Also goes to the two hostile Muslim haters here.
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Post by eddie Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:51 pm

Why do you have those posts coming up on your newsfeed unless your friends are posting those comments or stories?
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:56 pm

Handy Andy wrote:Trump hates Muslims and blacks.
Not sure he would be welcome in Cumbria at present.
Just saw this on my Facebook.

""Bloody foreigners" coming up to Cumbria with all their donations and supplies..

"Bloody foreigners" driving half the length of the country, at their own expense I hasten to add, helping all the flood victims clear their homes.

"Bloody foreigners" bringing their mobile food vans from miles away and then having the affront to actually give really tasty and enjoyable food to those who don't even have a house let alone a kitchen to cook in.

"Bloody foreigners" of all colours, creeds and religions helping all those people in Cumbria (and Lancashire and south Scotland) of all colours, creeds and religions in the aid centres by helping then get themselves back together.

I say one thing to you all. THANK YOU for being superb members of our one BRITISH community.

Being British is not about colour or creed or religion it's about the attitude of all pulling together through adversity whoever we are."

Also goes to the two hostile Muslim haters here.

Are you sure they're not just talking about British people who aren't from Cumbria? Laughing
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Post by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:30 pm

I'll bet there wasnt a bacon sarnie for miles around
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Post by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:32 pm

and again I notice NO mention for a british organisation that was there and critical for the whole job

no, half a dozen Muslims turn up and its MEGA news

these other guys turn up...in their own time, with their own kit (all "self insured of course)

and no one even notices, or if they do its just "expected"

Pffft...spot the propaganda
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