£155 a week may be an idea whose time has come
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Re: £155 a week may be an idea whose time has come
Oh dear, really wants to live up to the Dick name.
From your own link:
Field laborers and herdsmen were guaranteed a wage of “eight gur of corn per year,” and ox drivers and sailors received six gur. Doctors, meanwhile, were entitled to 5 shekels for healing a freeborn man of a broken bone or other injury, but only three shekels for a freed slave and two shekels for a slave.
So they were guaranteed a wage FOR WORKING
The guaranteed minimum income is for whether you are working or not! You can't help some people, they just enjoy making themselves look stupid.
From your own link:
Field laborers and herdsmen were guaranteed a wage of “eight gur of corn per year,” and ox drivers and sailors received six gur. Doctors, meanwhile, were entitled to 5 shekels for healing a freeborn man of a broken bone or other injury, but only three shekels for a freed slave and two shekels for a slave.
So they were guaranteed a wage FOR WORKING
The guaranteed minimum income is for whether you are working or not! You can't help some people, they just enjoy making themselves look stupid.
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You fixated about phallus again with your invented boyfriend you have to keep telling everyone about lol
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So you do want to look stupid. Ah well, par for the course.
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
This is what Zack the twat wrote:
"Show me your evidence that the Sumerians invented the minimum guaranteed income."
Does the above show a minimum guarnateed wage?
Yes
Did zack just prove his is an ignorant little runt?
Yes
Ha ha
Did he just try to move th3e goalpost because I shattered his delusions over islam plagerism.
Twat ha haThe Code established a minimum wage for workers.
Hammurabi’s Code was surprisingly ahead of its time when it came to laws addressing subjects like divorce, property rights and the prohibition of incest, but perhaps most progressive of all was a stipulation mandating an ancient form of minimum wage. Several edicts in the Code referenced specific occupations and dictated how much the workers were to be paid. Field laborers and herdsmen were guaranteed a wage of “eight gur of corn per year,” and ox drivers and sailors received six gur. Doctors, meanwhile, were entitled to 5 shekels for healing a freeborn man of a broken bone or other injury, but only three shekels for a freed slave and two shekels for a slave.
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-things-you-may-not-know-about-hammurabis-code
You lose your temper like Didge too, Dick.
A wage is something you get per hour and then you work the hours you want.
An income is something you get regardless of the hours you work. In this case, zero hours. Hence a "minimum income" and not "minimum wage".
It's not my fault you don't understand basic economics. Perhaps you missed that at school. ;-)
"Abu Bakr also introduced a guaranteed minimum standard of income, granting each man, woman, and child ten dirhams annually; this was later increased to twenty dirhams,"
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/guaranteeing-a-minimum-income-has-been-a-utopian-dream-for-centuries
I'm glad you've admitted you were wrong about your Sumerian history. Perhaps you need to follow your own advice and educate yourself.
lol wiki ha ha ha
Typical Mulsim ignorant runt
Still think they invented zero as well?
Glad to see you are living up to your spineless no backbone name
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He has to keep showing himself up, it's sad really.
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:You fixated about phallus again with your invented boyfriend you have to keep telling everyone about lol
Don't get personal and be a dick, Dick.
lol hardman behind a PC, no doubt bullied at school
Tell me, do you run around in gangs with kn ives like other Muslims?
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Re: £155 a week may be an idea whose time has come
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
lol wiki ha ha ha
Typical Mulsim ignorant runt
Still think they invented zero as well?
Glad to see you are living up to your spineless no backbone name
Ooh! You're so hard, Dick.
You are getting hard thinking of me
Well that is a turn up for the book lol
How is the pegion chest lol
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Re: £155 a week may be an idea whose time has come
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
lol hardman behind a PC, no doubt bullied at school
Tell me, do you run around in gangs with kn ives like other Muslims?
Please don't take your insecurities out on me.
It's not my fault you're obviously intimidated.
What a Muslim gang with knives?
No problem, easy to spit out they are normally gutless lol
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
You are getting hard thinking of me
Well that is a turn up for the book lol
How is the pegion chest lol
You obviously visit the same websites as Didge, Dick.
You obviously are from Rotherham
Have they caught you yet?
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You can tell he's still a football yob, probably be back in prison soon.
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sassy wrote:You can tell he's still a football yob, probably be back in prison soon.
Says the woman who backs terrorism and harm to people just on views.
You should be locked up for your extremism, but hey you think things in the past outweigh your vile views of the present
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:sassy wrote:You can tell he's still a football yob, probably be back in prison soon.
I know. And yet he pretends to be a pseudo intellectual. Lol!
He fucked up today -'so he's lost his temper again. He'd do a lot better if he calmed down.
lol now talking around me, now that is running away lol
I am loving how you have not been able to respond to many other threads and posts
But hey if you want to speak around me, it shows you chicken out
like I say gutless
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:sassy wrote:You can tell he's still a football yob, probably be back in prison soon.
I know. And yet he pretends to be a pseudo intellectual. Lol!
He fucked up today -'so he's lost his temper again. He'd do a lot better if he calmed down.
Give him his due, he did manage it for about 6 hours, that's his limit though, and if proved wrong has a temper tantrum. Ah well, small minds are sent to try us lol
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
lol now talking around me, now that is running away lol
I am loving how you have not been able to respond to many other threads and posts
But hey if you want to speak around me, it shows you chicken out
like I say gutless
Bruv, you absolutely failed to provide any evidence of your claims.
In fact worse, you didn't even understand the difference between wage and income.
I'd have more respect for you if you admitted you were wrong. But this way we get to have fun and expose your arrogant brand of idiocy. HA HA!
Bruv?
We are no relation.
I know you have the idiotic belief everyone is born Muslims
Which means to you all non-Muslims are apostates and thus to you justified to be executed, but I am not your bruv.
Have you ever admitted you were wrong?
I did make a mistake here, but your claim on the wiki is very flimsy, what corroborating evidence do you have
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uhm....
firstly the only people that could possibly object to this are those of a "mean minded" approach.
the problem being, DESPITE the whingeing of the supposedly hard working (actually tory spivs and shills) there are insufficient jobs to go round...and there will be many fewer in the near future "technological redundancy".
since these corporations that "benefit from replacing staff with machines" do so on a massive scale it is only right that they should pay a surcharge on tax to support those who will no longer have a job
I mean you fools...how do you think utopia is going to work otherwise????
I would suggest that since everyone would benefit then the naysayers should shut the fuck up....they will get it as well so.......
as to how to pay for it
all benefits, except certain "top up" benefits will cease, thus not only saving the actual cost of the benefit but the INFRASTRUCTURE required will dissapear, the offices, staff costs etc. there will be no need for expensive investigators, since there will be no system to cheat...
on top of that a tax should be levied on the technology...so every "device" mobile phone, tablet, pc etc should have another £20 minimum tax on it, all "contracts for such should carry another 10~% VAT every text should carry a 1 or 2p tax and every kb of data on mobile systems likewise. Every game whether played mobile or home system should pay 1 or 2p per KB of data during play and a £10 tax on purchase.
almost every household "white goods" has a totally unnecessary "smart chip these days, even ruddy kettles, under the (false) claim that it makes them "energy efficient"
these should carry a tax penalty...
then of course we could start to actually make the criminals that avoid/evade our taxes by various loop holes pay their propper share,,,,
we could then afford to do this quite easily
firstly the only people that could possibly object to this are those of a "mean minded" approach.
the problem being, DESPITE the whingeing of the supposedly hard working (actually tory spivs and shills) there are insufficient jobs to go round...and there will be many fewer in the near future "technological redundancy".
since these corporations that "benefit from replacing staff with machines" do so on a massive scale it is only right that they should pay a surcharge on tax to support those who will no longer have a job
I mean you fools...how do you think utopia is going to work otherwise????
I would suggest that since everyone would benefit then the naysayers should shut the fuck up....they will get it as well so.......
as to how to pay for it
all benefits, except certain "top up" benefits will cease, thus not only saving the actual cost of the benefit but the INFRASTRUCTURE required will dissapear, the offices, staff costs etc. there will be no need for expensive investigators, since there will be no system to cheat...
on top of that a tax should be levied on the technology...so every "device" mobile phone, tablet, pc etc should have another £20 minimum tax on it, all "contracts for such should carry another 10~% VAT every text should carry a 1 or 2p tax and every kb of data on mobile systems likewise. Every game whether played mobile or home system should pay 1 or 2p per KB of data during play and a £10 tax on purchase.
almost every household "white goods" has a totally unnecessary "smart chip these days, even ruddy kettles, under the (false) claim that it makes them "energy efficient"
these should carry a tax penalty...
then of course we could start to actually make the criminals that avoid/evade our taxes by various loop holes pay their propper share,,,,
we could then afford to do this quite easily
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Re: £155 a week may be an idea whose time has come
Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Bruv?
We are no relation.
I know you have the idiotic belief everyone is born Muslims
Which means to you all non-Muslims are apostates and thus to you justified to be executed, but I am not your bruv.
Have you ever admitted you were wrong?
I did make a mistake here, but your claim on the wiki is very flimsy, what corroborating evidence do you have
FYI - I admitted I was wrong about Victor, yesterday. And apologised to him.
Which means you have finally reached puberty
Bravo, give yourself a pat on the back
And the corroborating evidence?
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Bruv?
We are no relation.
I know you have the idiotic belief everyone is born Muslims
Which means to you all non-Muslims are apostates and thus to you justified to be executed, but I am not your bruv.
Have you ever admitted you were wrong?
I did make a mistake here, but your claim on the wiki is very flimsy, what corroborating evidence do you have
FYI - I admitted I was wrong about Victor, yesterday. And apologised to him.
Yes you did indeed fuzzy...apology accepted....
Its difficult via this media to "get a feel" for someones ideas...
I would have to say that I am indeed a national socialist, since there is nothing else to describe my stance on things
I am. by definition both nationalistic and socialistic
however
my nationalistic side is not the nationalism of the "hitlerist" , and it is a mistake many make to consider nationalism in the same box as "nazism"
and
my socilaistic side is not the "wet letteuce leftism" of the left in general on here
to be honest the left here are a dissapointment, they are not modern socialists, they are regressive marxists, with fluffy pie in the sky jam tomorrow ideas and no real understanding of human nature.
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Re: £155 a week may be an idea whose time has come
Didge me old mucker
you are beginning to worry me......
have the atheists "radicalised" you?
its beginning to sound like it......
you are beginning to worry me......
have the atheists "radicalised" you?
its beginning to sound like it......
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Nazism used the view of socialsim to attract voters.
As soon as it was in power it eradicated many of the socialist memebers in the Knight of the Long Knives.
So really Victor you would be better placed as a Strasserist?
Without the Jew hatred though
As soon as it was in power it eradicated many of the socialist memebers in the Knight of the Long Knives.
So really Victor you would be better placed as a Strasserist?
Without the Jew hatred though
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Lord Foul wrote:Didge me old mucker
you are beginning to worry me......
have the atheists "radicalised" you?
its beginning to sound like it......
Stop being a twat victor.
That has to be the most idiotic and childish thing you have said to me.
On what posts have I promoted a stance of radiclaised athiest even though there is no such thing.
Bloddy cheek when you round off about Muslims coming here all the time.
So if anyone is a radical its you with your pagan bullshit
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Nazism used the view of socialsim to attract voters.
As soon as it was in power it eradicated many of the socialist memebers in the Knight of the Long Knives.
So really Victor you would be better placed as a Strasserist?
Without the Jew hatred though
hmm...interesting idea didge, but I dunno.....
I think what needs to be done is to decouple national socialism from nazism all together, although hitler embraced an extreme form of national socialism the nazi movement was more akin to a cult movement ...as I would call it "hitlerism"
Just as socialism itself is decoupled from the cult of stalinism
any lefty attempting to place the "nazi" lable on ME is just asking for the lable "stalinist" to be reurned on them......
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Lord Foul wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:Nazism used the view of socialsim to attract voters.
As soon as it was in power it eradicated many of the socialist memebers in the Knight of the Long Knives.
So really Victor you would be better placed as a Strasserist?
Without the Jew hatred though
hmm...interesting idea didge, but I dunno.....
I think what needs to be done is to decouple national socialism from nazism all together, although hitler embraced an extreme form of national socialism the nazi movement was more akin to a cult movement ...as I would call it "hitlerism"
Just as socialism itself is decoupled from the cult of stalinism
any lefty attempting to place the "nazi" lable on ME is just asking for the lable "stalinist" to be reurned on them......
You will never be able to do that unless you call your form of polictics something new and something different.
Socialism should not be associated with Nazism as its absurd to do so.
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Which means you have finally reached puberty
Bravo, give yourself a pat on the back
And the corroborating evidence?
Maybe I'll change my username too: Fuzzy Sack
And I don't need to provide any evidence to you. You ain't my judge, buddy.
Then your claim is groundless
I am a judge to bad claims made.
So either put up or bow out
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Then your claim is groundless
I am a judge to bad claims made.
So either put up or bow out
Lol!
As long as Vic saw the appology, that's all that matters.
Glad to know you're still sanctimonious and arrogant, Dick (SAD!)
That is not the evidence I asked for you dumbass lol
It is on your evidence of a Muslim inventing this.
You are still an insecure anxioius victim of being bullied at schools.
That is evident how you have to costantly big yourself up
Now again put up or bow out
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Lord Foul wrote:Didge me old mucker
you are beginning to worry me......
have the atheists "radicalised" you?
its beginning to sound like it......
Stop being a twat victor.
That has to be the most idiotic and childish thing you have said to me.
On what posts have I promoted a stance of radiclaised athiest even though there is no such thing.
Bloddy cheek when you round off about Muslims coming here all the time.
So if anyone is a radical its you with your pagan bullshit
Q.E.D.
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Lord Foul wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Stop being a twat victor.
That has to be the most idiotic and childish thing you have said to me.
On what posts have I promoted a stance of radiclaised athiest even though there is no such thing.
Bloddy cheek when you round off about Muslims coming here all the time.
So if anyone is a radical its you with your pagan bullshit
Q.E.D.
Quackery Eddiot dumbass
Summed up zack beautifully
Like I say do not post rubbish you idiot
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
That is not the evidence I asked for you dumbass lol
It is on your evidence of a Muslim inventing this.
You are still an insecure anxioius victim of being bullied at schools.
That is evident how you have to costantly big yourself up
Now again put up or bow out
Muslims didn't invent the word "this". As far as I know.
You failed to provided any evidence that the Sumerians invented the minimum guaranteed income. You're just a sore loser now.
Copout
I admitted my error
I then asked for corrorborating evidence for your Muslim claim
You now act like a little brat again
You have now had many opportunities and cannot back your claim
Thus like the poor claim to inventing zero it has to be rusbbished
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Fuzzy Zack wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Copout
I admitted my error
I then asked for corrorborating evidence for your Muslim claim
You now act like a little brat again
You have now had many opportunities and cannot back your claim
Thus like the poor claim to inventing zero it has to be rusbbished
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Q6OnAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA54&lpg=PA54&dq=minimum+guaranteed+income+islam&source=bl&ots=QomaJF9s1B&sig=6J2hAixCf6XZDP5VJIiimHzC47Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-j5zFy8zJAhXC2xoKHV6iBpEQ6AEIKjAE#v=onepage&q=minimum%20guaranteed%20income%20islam&f=false
A book
Do you understand what corroborating evidence is?
I expect some evidence later
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and...may I remind you didge....
"us pagans", unlike "you athiests" have not, in modern times at least, been involved in procuring, legislating for or invoking the death of millions,
just a thought.........
"us pagans", unlike "you athiests" have not, in modern times at least, been involved in procuring, legislating for or invoking the death of millions,
just a thought.........
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Lord Foul wrote:and...may I remind you didge....
"us pagans", unlike "you athiests" have not, in modern times at least, been involved in procuring, legislating for or invoking the death of millions,
just a thought.........
Neither has athiesm, if you think it has, you are anb idiot.
I suggest you go to the section oin history which answers this
Laters
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stalin was an atheist
pol pot likewise
dunno if mao was, but i suspect so
pol pot likewise
dunno if mao was, but i suspect so
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Lord Foul wrote:uhm....
firstly the only people that could possibly object to this are those of a "mean minded" approach.
the problem being, DESPITE the whingeing of the supposedly hard working (actually tory spivs and shills) there are insufficient jobs to go round...and there will be many fewer in the near future "technological redundancy".
since these corporations that "benefit from replacing staff with machines" do so on a massive scale it is only right that they should pay a surcharge on tax to support those who will no longer have a job
I mean you fools...how do you think utopia is going to work otherwise????
I would suggest that since everyone would benefit then the naysayers should shut the fuck up....they will get it as well so.......
as to how to pay for it
all benefits, except certain "top up" benefits will cease, thus not only saving the actual cost of the benefit but the INFRASTRUCTURE required will dissapear, the offices, staff costs etc. there will be no need for expensive investigators, since there will be no system to cheat...
on top of that a tax should be levied on the technology...so every "device" mobile phone, tablet, pc etc should have another £20 minimum tax on it, all "contracts for such should carry another 10~% VAT every text should carry a 1 or 2p tax and every kb of data on mobile systems likewise. Every game whether played mobile or home system should pay 1 or 2p per KB of data during play and a £10 tax on purchase.
almost every household "white goods" has a totally unnecessary "smart chip these days, even ruddy kettles, under the (false) claim that it makes them "energy efficient"
these should carry a tax penalty...
then of course we could start to actually make the criminals that avoid/evade our taxes by various loop holes pay their propper share,,,,
we could then afford to do this quite easily
Well I object to it, and yet I would benefit from it myself, so I don't know why you think only "mean minded" people would object.
Do you really think that certain people wouldn't demand more? Disabled people, for example, would say - hang on, I should get more than those who used to be on JSA, so I should get much more than £155 per week. People with young children will say they get much more as well. Those on low pay will say it's not fair that people earning loads should get extra dosh.
Nobody is going to agree to pay more for their gadgets, so get real.
No, the higher tax payers would have to pay for it, and they won't take kindly to paying even more tax. If they don't have to pay more tax, there will be cuts in services to pay for it.
Loads of people wouldn't bother to work even if they could - they'll just sit there and take the dosh. House prices might rise because everyone would get more money.
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