Guantanamo Bay: Former Inmate Flees UK to Join Islamic State Group, Reports Say

by Guest Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:54 pm

Guantanamo Bay: Former Inmate Flees UK to Join Islamic State Group, Reports Say
Jamal al-Harith, who was released in 2004, was given £1 million from the British government due to claims of mistreatment and is now in Syria to aid the Islamic State, news outlets report.

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UK gave freed Guantanamo inmate £1million in compensation... now he’s fled to Syria and joined ISIS

Muslim convert Jamal al-Harith was caught in Afghanistan in March 2002
He was sent to the notorious Cuban camp, but was freed two years later
Launched claim against Britain saying agents knew about mistreatment
It is now revealed he escaped UK 18 months ago to join ISIS in Syria

By Ian Drury and Emily Davies for the Daily Mail

Muslim convert Jamal al-Harith was awarded a £1million payout after being released from the US military jail in Cuba in 2004

Muslim convert Jamal al-Harith was awarded a £1million payout after being released from the US military jail in Cuba in 2004

A terror suspect given £1million compensation by Britain after he was freed from Guantanamo Bay has fled to join Islamic State.

Muslim convert Jamal al-Harith was awarded the payout after being released from the US military jail in 2004.

The suspected Taliban sympathiser was flown to the notorious camp in Cuba and locked up after being captured in Afghanistan by US troops in March 2002.

But after intense campaigning by Tony Blair’s government, British citizen al-Harith – who had pleaded his innocence – was let out two years later.

He launched a compensation claim on the grounds British agents knew or were complicit in his mistreatment and was handed up to £1million of taxpayers’ money to stay silent.

But last night it emerged that, despite security services being fully aware of his previous detention, al-Harith was able to escape the UK 18 months ago to fight with IS in Syria. His journey has been revealed following an escape from IS-controlled Syria last month by British mother Shukee Begum and her five children.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267074/UK-gave-freed-Guantanamo-inmate-1million-compensation-s-fled-Syria-joined-ISIS.html#ixzz3oC0f4RQE

by Guest Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:55 pm

No doubt the lefty liberalists are soooo proud of themselves.....

by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:07 pm

Doesn't surprise me...

by nicko Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:27 am

Who was the prat who decided he should have a million quid?

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:22 pm

Some leftie liberal Muslim appeasers...

by Original Quill Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:58 pm

Well, it was his choice. What did you expect...that he would join a convent?

by Guest Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:07 pm

waste of money waste of oxygen , should have let him rot in Guantanamo .

by Ben Reilly Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:02 pm

Guantanamo Bay's prison has always been illegal. When you commit a crime against someone, it's idiotic not to think they'll try to get revenge Rolling Eyes

by Original Quill Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:15 pm

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:waste of money waste of oxygen , should have let him rot in Guantanamo .

Actually Guantanamo Bay is a beautiful place. The US has leased it for centuries as a base from which to deploy for the Caribbean...kinda like your Gibraltar is for the Mediterranean.

The reason why they located the prison there is that, off-site, it is not subject to the US Constitution or the US Courts. Because, what they do there is unconstitutional and highly illegal.

Yes, its hypocrisy on steroids. But hey, that's Bush and Cheney.

by Guest Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:24 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Guantanamo Bay's prison has always been illegal. When you commit a crime against someone, it's idiotic not to think they'll try to get revenge

so you would say its ok for the family of the guy wrongly executed in your backward country to exact revenge (perhaps in the form of a bombing campaign)??

interesting.......

after all he WAS given a million quid as "quid pro quo". Clearly he shoud have been given 100 grains of lead at 3000 ft/sec

by Guest Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:17 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Guantanamo Bay's prison has always been illegal. When you commit a crime against someone, it's idiotic not to think they'll try to get revenge

so you would say its ok for the family of the guy wrongly executed in your backward country to exact revenge (perhaps in the form of a bombing campaign)??

interesting.......

after all he WAS given a million quid as "quid pro quo". Clearly he shoud have been given 100 grains of lead at 3000 ft/sec

remember the guy is a moslem so Ben will be chuffed to bits that he got revenge us Brits anything to get revenge for being British and 'white' Razz

by Guest Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:47 pm

yes, clearly Ben thinks that the "justice" idea is redundant and that "revenge" should be the way

i mean...fine by me.....

and as we know that more or less how the american "justice" (in name only) system works

its why we have a law that clearly states that a man may NOT "be fined to his utter ruin"

by veya_victaous Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:47 am

So to Recap....
terrorists imprison and torture an innocent man for years
then surprised when he fights them after release..

The torture and terrorism committed by western forces has the same effect as that committed by anyone else.

LOL at VOD and the British obsession with trying to make it our like they are victims and not perpetrators. "got revenge on Brits" by joining ISIS confused

Cause ISIS gives the Slightest shit about the UK, maybe you lot are deaf or they show you the less than 1% of ISS videos that mentiaon the UK. 99%Plus is all about the USA no one cares that much about a Provence of the EU. Rolling Eyes

LOL at implication of the article

She reached safety last month when she was rescued by Al Qaeda-linked group Al Nusra.

and the fact that it implies the UK is a Prison Colony for terrorists and others found undesirable to USA Razz

his release has been delayed for at least eight years amid allegations the US is concerned about Britain’s ability to monitor terror suspects.

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:22 am

victorismyhero wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Guantanamo Bay's prison has always been illegal. When you commit a crime against someone, it's idiotic not to think they'll try to get revenge

so you would say its ok for the family of the guy wrongly executed in your backward country to exact revenge (perhaps in the form of a bombing campaign)??

interesting.......

after all he WAS given a million quid as "quid pro quo". Clearly he shoud have been given 100 grains of lead at 3000 ft/sec

I'm getting really tired of you twisting my words around, victor.

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:25 am

Just to elucidate -- because apparently victor is a moron ...

If someone punches you in the face, of course it's not "okay" to punch them back. But how many of us can do what's right when something like that happens?

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:27 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Just to elucidate -- because apparently victor is a moron ...

If someone punches you in the face, of course it's not "okay" to punch them back. But how many of us can do what's right when something like that happens?

because apparantly ben is a bit slow

it IS ok to punch an assailant back....at the time...its called defence

It is NOT ok to wait a week then go after them...PROVIDED there is a "justice system " in place that will "deal with them properly and see that YOU (the victim ) is decently recompensed.
If such a system is NOT in place then "revenge justice" is inevitable...and possibl "right"

In this case he was "recompensed" ...to the tune of 1 million pounds.....the fact he still seeks revenge PROVES that he is not fit for our society.....

As for twisting your words.....well try being specific inststead of the usual wishy washy mish mash of lefty word play....say what you mean...and own it, instead of being scared to pin your words to the mast so to speak...

clue for ben

the meaning of the word shall be the plain meaning of the word in english.....(the definig rule for all parliamentary legislation and legal proceedings)

taking THAT as a given, it is clear that your point

"Guantanamo Bay's prison has always been illegal. When you commit a crime against someone, it's idiotic not to think they'll try to get reveng"

CLEARLY shows "sympathy " for his actions.... Rolling Eyes

by SEXY MAMA Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:33 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Just to elucidate -- because apparently victor is a moron ...

If someone punches you in the face, of course it's not "okay" to punch them back. But how many of us can do what's right when something like that happens?

Im with Victor on this ( I know Shocked

)

What he did was well out of order! He was compensated end of.

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:38 am

thats becasue YOU Sexy, have a brain and can use it....

You dont just open your mouth and let lefty platitudes fall out

we may not agree on many things.....but thats OK.....

by Original Quill Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:06 pm

Ben wrote:I'm getting really tired of you twisting my words around, victor.

Ben wrote:Just to elucidate -- because apparently victor is a moron ...

If someone punches you in the face, of course it's not "okay" to punch them back. But how many of us can do what's right when something like that happens?

Victor is obsessed with America-bashing, so he often loses his line of reasoning in pursuit of his brainlessness. It’s not that he is a moron, he only acts like one when he’s drinking.

What everyone forgets about these detainees (in Guantanamo) is that they have never been charged with a crime, nor have they been tried, nor least of all, convicted. He “was caught in Afghanistan in March 2002.” That means he was walking down the street, or helping an old lady carry her packages, and some British soldier didn’t like him and pushed him into the back of a truck. He ends up in Guantanamo for the next couple of years.

If the government had any real evidence on these detainees, or if they had been caught in the act of doing something wrong, they would have been tried and convicted long ago. And for sure the UK would not have paid any money. These detainees were just everyday johns who were picked up off the street, and then had to spend the next decade in prison.

What vic and the boys object to is the normal consequence of injustice: anger. It’s all to do with this new-found mindset of ‘let’s kick their ass cause they are Muslim sand niggers’. They think prejudice should be given equivalency with actual proof of misconduct. They are not regular guys; they are guilty of being Muslims.

Ben, he’s not just twisting your words, he’s actually responsible for twisting whole lives of innocent people. Right now, he’s trying to justify it. Look at the holes in his logic…in his story. Where's the evidence? Where's the trial? Where's the conviction? Why the compensation?

While we're at it, the compensation is for his time. You can never buy his opinion of western assholes (his view). So, it's hypocritical to expect as much. Of course he's gonna join ISIL...in his mind, after his experience with westerners, they are the good guys.

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:21 pm

obama strikes again

by Original Quill Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:27 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:obama strikes again

Or not. Notice he hasn't closed America's one concentration camp yet.

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:32 pm

its the republicans who are stopping him

by Original Quill Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:42 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:its the republicans who are stopping him

It's the same logic that you are hearing right here: prejudice.

They didn't do anything wrong. They're at Guantanamo because we wrongfully put them there. And now we don't know what to do with them. We don't want to release them into our society. We don't want to release them into their society.

What evil webs we weave...

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:58 pm

Original Quill wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:its the republicans who are stopping him

It's the same logic that you are hearing right here: prejudice.

They didn't do anything wrong. They're at Guantanamo because we wrongfully put them there. And now we don't know what to do with them. We don't want to release them into our society. We don't want to release them into their society.

What evil webs we weave...

its the republicans i tell you!!!

they cause global warming and tsunamis dont you know??

the people in camp x-ray arent really Muslims, they are republicans in fancy dress

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:16 pm

more verbal bowel movements from quill....

I said nothing about guilt or innocence

and regardless he was paid a considerable amount of compensation....

Now here's a poser for you quill , since like ben you seem to think that this "reaction " is all normal and fair and right

If one of these laddies blows up my neighbourhood and kills someone of mine...you reckon I'd be right declaring "personal war " upon all and every one of their countrymen then?

becasue any compensation I would recieve would be paltry indeed compared to his million quid....

or is it merely a case of the liberal lefty hatered of his own that drives you to post such drivel....

or do you really beleive the crap yopu come out with....

basically you are saying you agree with him....becasue he's a "poor trodden down Muslim"

AND furthermore....

if what you are ACTUALLY saying is that whilst you dont agree with him, you can "see where he's comming from"

then THAT argument was denied validity by you lefty liberal types a while back in relation to a poster at present on here. When you accused him of siding with a vile and violent act.....

apparantly the hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:21 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Ben wrote:I'm getting really tired of you twisting my words around, victor.

Ben wrote:Just to elucidate -- because apparently victor is a moron ...

If someone punches you in the face, of course it's not "okay" to punch them back. But how many of us can do what's right when something like that happens?

Victor is obsessed with America-bashing, so he often loses his line of reasoning in pursuit of his brainlessness. It’s not that he is a moron, he only acts like one when he’s drinking.

says the crack scoffing dope smoker

As for America bashing...I dont really have to try very hard do I?...I mean the entire world is better at that than me.....
Ben I can forgive ...after all he's from texas....where even stupidity is bigger, you quill are just a boor

What everyone forgets about these detainees (in Guantanamo) is that they have never been charged with a crime, nor have they been tried, nor least of all, convicted. He “was caught in Afghanistan in March 2002.” That means he was walking down the street, or helping an old lady carry her packages, and some British soldier didn’t like him and pushed him into the back of a truck. He ends up in Guantanamo for the next couple of years.

If the government had any real evidence on these detainees, or if they had been caught in the act of doing something wrong, they would have been tried and convicted long ago. And for sure the UK would not have paid any money. These detainees were just everyday johns who were picked up off the street, and then had to spend the next decade in prison.

What vic and the boys object to is the normal consequence of injustice: anger. It’s all to do with this new-found mindset of ‘let’s kick their ass cause they are Muslim sand niggers’. They think prejudice should be given equivalency with actual proof of misconduct. They are not regular guys; they are guilty of being Muslims.

Ben, he’s not just twisting your words, he’s actually responsible for twisting whole lives of innocent people. Right now, he’s trying to justify it. Look at the holes in his logic…in his story. Where's the evidence? Where's the trial? Where's the conviction? Why the compensation?

While we're at it, the compensation is for his time. You can never buy his opinion of western assholes (his view). So, it's hypocritical to expect as much. Of course he's gonna join ISIL...in his mind, after his experience with westerners, they are the good guys.

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:27 pm

The Americans i know love the British people i don't know what's wrong with Ben he has such hatred for us .

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:38 pm

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:The Americans i know love the British people i don't know what's wrong with Ben he has such hatred for us .

jealousy

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:42 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:The Americans i know love the British people i don't know what's wrong with Ben he has such hatred for us .

jealousy

Jealousy is such a bad emotion it eats people from inside and causing all sorts of diseases .

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:42 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Just to elucidate -- because apparently victor is a moron ...

If someone punches you in the face, of course it's not "okay" to punch them back. But how many of us can do what's right when something like that happens?

because apparantly ben is a bit slow

it IS ok to punch an assailant back....at the time...its called defence

It is NOT ok to wait a week then go after them...PROVIDED there is a "justice system " in place that will "deal with them properly and see that YOU (the victim ) is decently recompensed.
If such a system is NOT in place then "revenge justice" is inevitable...and possibl "right"

In this case he was "recompensed" ...to the tune of 1 million pounds.....the fact he still seeks revenge PROVES that he is not fit for our society.....

As for twisting your words.....well try being specific inststead of the usual wishy washy mish mash of lefty word play....say what you mean...and own it, instead of being scared to pin your words to the mast so to speak...

clue for ben

the meaning of the word shall be the plain meaning of the word in english.....(the definig rule for all parliamentary legislation and legal proceedings)

taking THAT as a given, it is clear that your point

"Guantanamo Bay's prison has always been illegal. When you commit a crime against someone, it's idiotic not to think they'll try to get reveng"

CLEARLY shows "sympathy " for his actions....

I'm not excusing or saying his involvement in ISIS is okay, I'm saying you don't subject someone to what he was subjected to and not think they might come after you someday. If we want fewer terrorists, we need to shut down Guantanamo and stop interfering in other people's countries.

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:44 pm

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:The Americans i know love the British people i don't know what's wrong with Ben he has such hatred for us .

It's obviously not as simple as "I hate everyone from the UK," obviously I don't. I also don't hate the people here that I don't get along with; I just think they're wrongheaded.

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:47 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:

because apparantly ben is a bit slow

it IS ok to punch an assailant back....at the time...its called defence

It is NOT ok to wait a week then go after them...PROVIDED there is a "justice system " in place that will "deal with them properly and see that YOU (the victim ) is decently recompensed.
If such a system is NOT in place then "revenge justice" is inevitable...and possibl "right"

In this case he was "recompensed" ...to the tune of 1 million pounds.....the fact he still seeks revenge PROVES that he is not fit for our society.....

As for twisting your words.....well try being specific inststead of the usual wishy washy mish mash of lefty word play....say what you mean...and own it, instead of being scared to pin your words to the mast so to speak...

clue for ben

the meaning of the word shall be the plain meaning of the word in english.....(the definig rule for all parliamentary legislation and legal proceedings)

taking THAT as a given, it is clear that your point

"Guantanamo Bay's prison has always been illegal. When you commit a crime against someone, it's idiotic not to think they'll try to get reveng"

CLEARLY shows "sympathy " for his actions....

I'm not excusing or saying his involvement in ISIS is okay, I'm saying you don't subject someone to what he was subjected to and not think they might come after you someday. If we want fewer terrorists, we need to shut down Guantanamo and stop interfering in other people's countries.

exactly......let them wipe each other out......

Oh and "not interfering also encompases NOT taking "refugees"
if a country is in turmoil...seal its borders and keep em shut until it stops festering....whatever the outcome....

or is "limited non interference" a leftist option now as well?

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:48 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:

because apparantly ben is a bit slow

it IS ok to punch an assailant back....at the time...its called defence

It is NOT ok to wait a week then go after them...PROVIDED there is a "justice system " in place that will "deal with them properly and see that YOU (the victim ) is decently recompensed.
If such a system is NOT in place then "revenge justice" is inevitable...and possibl "right"

In this case he was "recompensed" ...to the tune of 1 million pounds.....the fact he still seeks revenge PROVES that he is not fit for our society.....

As for twisting your words.....well try being specific inststead of the usual wishy washy mish mash of lefty word play....say what you mean...and own it, instead of being scared to pin your words to the mast so to speak...

clue for ben

the meaning of the word shall be the plain meaning of the word in english.....(the definig rule for all parliamentary legislation and legal proceedings)

taking THAT as a given, it is clear that your point

"Guantanamo Bay's prison has always been illegal. When you commit a crime against someone, it's idiotic not to think they'll try to get reveng"

CLEARLY shows "sympathy " for his actions....

I'm not excusing or saying his involvement in ISIS is okay, I'm saying you don't subject someone to what he was subjected to and not think they might come after you someday. If we want fewer terrorists, we need to shut down Guantanamo and stop interfering in other people's countries.

exactly......let them wipe each other out......

Oh and "not interfering also encompases NOT taking "refugees"
if a country is in turmoil...seal its borders and keep em shut until it stops festering....whatever the outcome....

or is "limited non interference" a leftist option now as well?

I don't think taking in refugees is an act of interference -- it's an act of compassion.

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:49 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:The Americans i know love the British people i don't know what's wrong with Ben he has such hatred for us .

It's obviously not as simple as "I hate everyone from the UK," obviously I don't. I also don't hate the people here that I don't get along with; I just think they're wrongheaded.

LOL well that's really self righteous

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:51 pm

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:The Americans i know love the British people i don't know what's wrong with Ben he has such hatred for us .

It's obviously not as simple as "I hate everyone from the UK," obviously I don't. I also don't hate the people here that I don't get along with; I just think they're wrongheaded.

LOL well that's really self righteous

Then you're really self righteous too, unless you're about to surprise me by saying you don't think I'm wrongheaded Cool

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:58 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

LOL well that's really self righteous

Then you're really self righteous too, unless you're about to surprise me by saying you don't think I'm wrongheaded

I think you're a typical American (big headed) Razz

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:08 pm

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

LOL well that's really self righteous

Then you're really self righteous too, unless you're about to surprise me by saying you don't think I'm wrongheaded

I think you're a typical American (big headed)

Actually, my head is atypically large for an American -- hard to buy hats Sad

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:10 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:

exactly......let them wipe each other out......

Oh and "not interfering also encompases NOT taking "refugees"
if a country is in turmoil...seal its borders and keep em shut until it stops festering....whatever the outcome....

or is "limited non interference" a leftist option now as well?

I don't think taking in refugees is an act of interference -- it's an act of compassion.

ah so you are only for "limited non interference"

also...would you please explain to me what use that pointless emotion is???? (pointless that is when applied to people with no ties and no "value" to either our economy or cuture.)

mean camergoon has said 20,000 and the left are wetting them selves with "its only 20% of wembly stadium

but is that really 20,000 as in 20,000 to include families

or is it (more likely ) 20,000 fit young men who once settled here will bring in mother father baby duck grandmama and (pregnant with quins) daughter, along with aunts cousins and anyone else that can beg a lift on the back of his "residency"

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:10 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

I think you're a typical American (big headed)

Actually, my head is atypically large for an American -- hard to buy hats

so thats the reason is it...

more room for "dumbness"

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:15 pm

victorismyhero wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
victorismyhero wrote:

exactly......let them wipe each other out......

Oh and "not interfering also encompases NOT taking "refugees"
if a country is in turmoil...seal its borders and keep em shut until it stops festering....whatever the outcome....

or is "limited non interference" a leftist option now as well?

I don't think taking in refugees is an act of interference -- it's an act of compassion.

ah so you are only for "limited non interference"

also...would you please explain to me what use that pointless emotion is???? (pointless that is when applied to people with no ties and no "value" to either our economy or cuture.)

mean camergoon has said 20,000 and the left are wetting them selves with "its only 20% of wembly stadium

but is that really 20,000 as in 20,000 to include families

or is it (more likely ) 20,000 fit young men who once settled here will bring in mother father baby duck grandmama and (pregnant with quins) daughter, along with aunts cousins and anyone else that can beg a lift on the back of his "residency"

That's sociopath talk Evil or Very Mad

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:29 pm

sociopath???

sociopath is having the desire to go and DO harm to people.....

NOT "not giving a toss"

NOT absolute neutrality

NOT "its NOT my problem"...dont make it so....

Strictly speaking I dont really care if they invite the entire population of syria here.....

as long as the ONLY people to suffer the consequences of such a move were the ones who supported it.

Clearly even with the 20,000 (plus inevitable coat tail hangers) there will be finacial and social penaties

NOW...I reckon there should be a register made whereby every person should be made to register their position on this....

then WHEN the costs become apparent...those who registered FOR it should be the ones whos taxes are increased, whos place on health service waiting lists are used up first, whos wives wil be taken 50 miles out of town for childbirth...etc etc etc.....

let responsibility lie with those responsible.....

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:24 pm

Yeah, you don't give a shit about the plight of millions of people ... that's called a sociopath.

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:34 pm

only in your mamby pamby lefty world.....

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:17 pm

victorismyhero wrote:only in your mamby pamby lefty world.....

Better than your hateful, stingy, fearful, dog-eat-dog world that's shrinking to a small (in every sense of the word) point before our eyes Smile

by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:24 pm

really...and when the lefties magic pocket finally proves to be empty....what then?

i mean by all means lets deny our own what THEY have paid for and give it all to johney foreigner....

but what when the pot is finally empty and NO one has anything....

will you be happy then?

becasue you know the 1% will STILL own 99% of everything

and the real truth is that you lefties want a bit of that...but havnt the nads to go get it....and besides the ones that have it aint going to let you get it.....without a LOT of bloodshed and mayhem....and in THAT case they will just move it to quieter realms while you lot have your tantrum .....and blame your fellow whities for YOUR failure...
pfffft....and heres me thinking the R/W dont know how the world works....

by veya_victaous Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:02 pm

victorismyhero wrote:more verbal bowel movements from quill....

I said nothing about guilt or innocence

and regardless he was paid a considerable amount of compensation....

Now here's a poser for you quill , since like ben you seem to think that this "reaction " is all normal and fair and right

If one of these laddies blows up my neighbourhood and kills someone of mine...you reckon I'd be right declaring "personal war " upon all and every one of their countrymen then? Did his country support and fund his actions? NO so No. Did you? YES you did. IF you swap countrymen or Muslims with the actual group that supports and funds his actions than that would be fine. ISIS is the legitimate target and the UK are dropping bombs on them already, so if he did blow up in the UK as a representative of ISIS it would only be a continuation of the hostilities you are already engaged in.
becasue any compensation I would recieve would be paltry indeed compared to his million quid....

or is it merely a case of the liberal lefty hatered of his own that drives you to post such drivel....

or do you really beleive the crap yopu come out with....

basically you are saying you agree with him....becasue he's a "poor trodden down Muslim"

AND furthermore....

if what you are ACTUALLY saying is that whilst you dont agree with him, you can "see where he's comming from"

then THAT argument was denied validity by you lefty liberal types a while back in relation to a poster at present on here. When you accused him of siding with a vile and violent act.....

apparantly the hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds

And the Magic Pocket will never empty because it filled by Human drive and ambition to make the world and Humanity BETTER it is the Spirit of Evolution. it is the reason we don't still live in caves, with each passing generation the pocket gets bigger and even more can be drawn..

violent revolution is nessecary and over due.... I'll give you that Wink

We have already expanded the pocket enough to look after everyone and attempt for the stars.... if we cut the head off the 0.01% that wastes so many resources of luxury.

I put to you again that the problem is not the migrant it is the footballer on millions it the company that is willing to pay many million to have a small advertisement on a players shirt and inevitable raise the cost of the there good waste resources from all society so some guy playing a game has a advertisement on his shirt. IF society doesn't have enough to pay for hospitals well look at all the crap it is has decide to spend it on instead. Kicking a ball around is worth 10 or even 100 doctors according to society... Suspect

by Original Quill Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:46 pm

victorismyhero wrote:more verbal bowel movements from quill....

And more erudite ignorance from you. Do you ever engage a brain? Anyone's?

Victor wrote:I said nothing about guilt or innocence

That's my point. You put a man in a concentration camp for no reason whatsoever, held him and tortured him and then you are offended when he hates you?? Where's the sense in that?

Victor wrote:and regardless he was paid a considerable amount of compensation....

He was paid for his time and the injustice. He's back to ground zero now, and free to have his own opinions. He doesn't like you...I don't blame him. If I were him I'd go be among friends. It's human instinct; and not only that, it's the right thing to do.

Victor wrote:Now here's a poser for you quill , since like ben you seem to think that this "reaction " is all normal and fair and right

If one of these laddies blows up my neighbourhood and kills someone of mine...you reckon I'd be right declaring "personal war " upon all and every one of their countrymen then?

becasue any compensation I would recieve would be paltry indeed compared to his million quid....

or is it merely a case of the liberal lefty hatered of his own that drives you to post such drivel....

or do you really beleive the crap yopu come out with....

You make a better woodworker than a reasoner. I don't think I've ever talked to you when you are sober, so I don't know.

You think you can blow up his family, take away his country, and lock him up in a concentration camp and torture him for decades...and now you wonder why he doesn't like you? You really do have shit for brains. And if you tell me that if you were him, you would have nothing but love, your a fuckin' liar. Christ, you hate Muslims merely because they no longer wipe your Bright British Boots. All he did was walk over to his side of the playground, and now you're pissed.

But rightys are not thinkers. We're probably lucky they're not. We'd all be dead by now if rightys could really figure things out.

Victor wrote:basically you are saying you agree with him....becasue he's a "poor trodden down Muslim"

AND furthermore....

if what you are ACTUALLY saying is that whilst you dont agree with him, you can "see where he's comming from"

then THAT argument was denied validity by you lefty liberal types a while back in relation to a poster at present on here. When you accused him of siding with a vile and violent act.....

apparantly the hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds

I'm sorry, but you're so fuckin' drunk I can't make out what you are saying.

Basically, I'm pointing out that you hate him because he's a Muslim. You forget that you and your RW kind started this whole thing when you picked him off the street for no reason, locked him up for decades and tortured him. Now you're asking why he doesn't love you...you Brits are so arrogant, it's shear audacity...'cept maybe for the Iranians.

The rest--from "AND furthermore..."-- you made no sense at all. Go sober up and we'll pick it up in the morning.

by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:55 pm

what a boor, and ignorant too

I dont think I have ever talked to you when you wern't being a twat, but hey ho.....keep sniffing the white line quill......

by nicko Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:58 pm

Vic, he's a yank, what do you expect, have to" Cut him some slack"

by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:00 pm

yeah I know Nicko....

but NOT in the trouser dept....he's all talk and no balls....

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