Neo-Nazis threaten Liverpool race riots if Mayor Joe Anderson cancels city centre march

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10:49, 9 August 2015
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Joe Anderson was sent a letter from National Action





Far-right neo-Nazis threatened to cause race riots in Liverpool in a sinister letter to Mayor Joe Anderson.

White supremacist group National Action has threatened that the city “will go up in flames” if a racist march through its streets is banned.

In the letter directly addressed to the Liverpool Mayor, and seen by the ECHO, the group promises violent retribution if their planned ‘White Man March’ next Saturday is not allowed to go ahead.

The hate-filled letter states: “God help you and your Liverpool vision if you interfere with our God given right of public expression and freedom of speech.

“We look forward to a National Action-packed weekend of ethnically-enriched chaos and mayhem. We may even pay you a visit if things are played against us. It’s in your hands.”

The letter ends: “Only Bullets Will Stop Us!”




The threatening blackmail letter from National Action Group to Liverpool. Racist thugs. #loveworldinoneCity pic.twitter.com/bbSIQgWjLB
— Joe Anderson (@joeforliverpool) August 9, 2015

Much as I cant stand Anderson he must act to stop this

Ok Ben... why don't we just let the whole world move here to UK and concrete over it all...!?


Idiot!

Tommy Monk wrote:Ok Ben... why don't we just let the whole world move here to UK and concrete over it all...!?


Idiot!

The Uk hardly takes in people compared to other nations and yet you prove how utterly selfish you are, based on you thinking you can decide of peoples lives based on nothing more than geography.
That is plain ignorance

Undermining this country, its people and security IS short sighted madness.

Tommy Monk wrote:Undermining this country, its people and security IS short sighted madness.

No you are just a selfish idiot.
You are priviliddge to be born here, that does not mean you can condemn others through selfishness based again on nothing more than geography

Cuchulain wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Ok Ben... why don't we just let the whole world move here to UK and concrete over it all...!?


Idiot!

The Uk hardly takes in people compared to other nations and yet you prove how utterly selfish you are, based on you thinking you can decide of peoples lives based on nothing more than geography.
That is plain ignorance

Yep! 97 percent of the UK is unspoiled wilderness. Look it up if you don't believe me. Y'all could triple in population and barely impact your Robin-Hood forests

Bollocks!



You could say the same about the countries of origin of immigrants...



It's a big world out there!

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


The Uk hardly takes in people compared to other nations and yet you prove how utterly selfish you are, based on you thinking you can decide of peoples lives based on nothing more than geography.
That is plain ignorance

Yep! 97 percent of the UK is unspoiled wilderness. Look it up if you don't believe me. Y'all could triple in population and barely impact your Robin-Hood forests

You do not need to convince me Ben as I have posted this evidence many times.








What gets me more than anything is the ungratful attitude of people where they did nothing to create the advanatages they live in. I am come from immigrant parents, of which my grand parents never even lived here but fought for this nation. Countless other immigrant families have had those who served to fight for this country and never even lived here and their children came here because of this service. I mean how ungrateful the people are today disgusts me to the core. That millions not even British joined up and served to defend the freedom of this country and in many cases where the British were their subject rulers. Nobody born today did anything to create the advantages they benefit from yet think they have some selfish right to deny this to others. Not only this, many of these refugees coming here are as a part of British involvement in these nations and then we have those who wish to turn them away when we take hardly any compared to other nations. Its is disgusting plain and simple.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


The Uk hardly takes in people compared to other nations and yet you prove how utterly selfish you are, based on you thinking you can decide of peoples lives based on nothing more than geography.
That is plain ignorance

Yep! 97 percent of the UK is unspoiled wilderness. Look it up if you don't believe me. Y'all could triple in population and barely impact your Robin-Hood forests

Of course America has such an open door policy...

Nems wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


The Uk hardly takes in people compared to other nations and yet you prove how utterly selfish you are, based on you thinking you can decide of peoples lives based on nothing more than geography.
That is plain ignorance

Yep! 97 percent of the UK is unspoiled wilderness. Look it up if you don't believe me. Y'all could triple in population and barely impact your Robin-Hood forests

Of course America has such an open door policy...

We actually do, though we deport tens of thousands of people, a good 11 to 20 million of us are "undocumented" (actually a misdemeanor rather than an actual crime here). How is anyone going to get rid of, say, 15 million people? The answer is, they won't. We'd need a WWII-size governmental intervention to pull that off. Far better that we make our rules easier for the vast majority of the so-called illegals, because as it stands, many of them might find themselves waiting over 20 years to become "legal" (i.e., it's okay for them to cross an imaginary line in the desert).

Nems wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Yep! 97 percent of the UK is unspoiled wilderness. Look it up if you don't believe me. Y'all could triple in population and barely impact your Robin-Hood forests

Of course America has such an open door policy...

Redundent point.
America has often made millions of what is termed there as illegal immigrants to citizens, because they realise how daft it is not to.
Yes the US also has selfish idots in the form of the Republicans and Tea Party it does not make their view right.
Even more so when the vast majority of US citizens are descended from immigrants.

Cuchulain wrote:

Nems wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Yep! 97 percent of the UK is unspoiled wilderness. Look it up if you don't believe me. Y'all could triple in population and barely impact your Robin-Hood forests

Of course America has such an open door policy...

Redundent point.
America has often made millions of what is termed there as illegal immigrants to citizens, because they realise how daft it is not to.
Yes the US also has selfish idots in the form of the Republicans and Tea Party it does not make their view right.
Even more so when the vast majority of US citizens are descended from immigrants.

Yep! People like me and Quill in the Southwest realize how stupid it is to deny citizenship to the descendents of people who once owned our lands. It's only the northern Americans who aren't used to Latino people who get all up in arms. For me, living in Texas from childhood, a good quarter of Texans are of Mexican descent ... they didn't cross the border, the border crossed them!

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Redundent point.
America has often made millions of what is termed there as illegal immigrants to citizens, because they realise how daft it is not to.
Yes the US also has selfish idots in the form of the Republicans and Tea Party it does not make their view right.
Even more so when the vast majority of US citizens are descended from immigrants.

Yep! People like me and Quill in the Southwest realize how stupid it is to deny citizenship to the descendents of people who once owned our lands. It's only the northern Americans who aren't used to Latino people who get all up in arms. For me, living in Texas from childhood, a good quarter of Texans are of Mexican descent ... they didn't cross the border, the border crossed them!

Yep its insanity Ben and a fear of whites not being dominat in the US anymore.
Always fear is used in the arguments, as to me no matter what skin tone they are all American.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Nems wrote:

Of course America has such an open door policy...

We actually do, though we deport tens of thousands of people, a good 11 to 20 million of us are "undocumented" (actually a misdemeanor rather than an actual crime here). How is anyone going to get rid of, say, 15 million people? The answer is, they won't. We'd need a WWII-size governmental intervention to pull that off. Far better that we make our rules easier for the vast majority of the so-called illegals, because as it stands, many of them might find themselves waiting over 20 years to become "legal" (i.e., it's okay for them to cross an imaginary line in the desert).

As many as that undocumented?! Does that mean they cant work or get healthcare or insurance etc?

Cuchulain wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Redundent point.
America has often made millions of what is termed there as illegal immigrants to citizens, because they realise how daft it is not to.
Yes the US also has selfish idots in the form of the Republicans and Tea Party it does not make their view right.
Even more so when the vast majority of US citizens are descended from immigrants.

Yep! People like me and Quill in the Southwest realize how stupid it is to deny citizenship to the descendents of people who once owned our lands. It's only the northern Americans who aren't used to Latino people who get all up in arms. For me, living in Texas from childhood, a good quarter of Texans are of Mexican descent ... they didn't cross the border, the border crossed them!

Yep its insanity Ben and a fear of whites not being dominat in the US anymore.
Always fear is used in the arguments, as to me no matter what skin tone they are all American.

To me, America shouldn't be a racial nation at all, but a people connected by a common viewpoint. It's been that way for me my whole life, I got along with people who thought like me, rather than those who look like me. I think that's what an immigrant nation should become. If you're going to steal good people and ideas from other cultures, at least be honest about it

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Yep its insanity Ben and a fear of whites not being dominat in the US anymore.
Always fear is used in the arguments, as to me no matter what skin tone they are all American.

To me, America shouldn't be a racial nation at all, but a people connected by a common viewpoint. It's been that way for me my whole life, I got along with people who thought like me, rather than those who look like me. I think that's what an immigrant nation should become. If you're going to steal good people and ideas from other cultures, at least be honest about it

Is your view a majority or minority view would you say, in your area?

Nems wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Nems wrote:

Of course America has such an open door policy...

We actually do, though we deport tens of thousands of people, a good 11 to 20 million of us are "undocumented" (actually a misdemeanor rather than an actual crime here). How is anyone going to get rid of, say, 15 million people? The answer is, they won't. We'd need a WWII-size governmental intervention to pull that off. Far better that we make our rules easier for the vast majority of the so-called illegals, because as it stands, many of them might find themselves waiting over 20 years to become "legal" (i.e., it's okay for them to cross an imaginary line in the desert).

As many as that undocumented?! Does that mean they cant work or get healthcare or insurance etc?

They get hired by businesses and people willing to defy the law, but they don't get the full benefits of American citizenship. They pick fruit, wrangle livestock, repair housing and likewise do things for money that the rest of us wouldn't get out of bed to do. The state of Texas did a study and concluded that if it weren't for "illegal" labor, we'd be in economic recession. Literally, we need them as much (or more) as they need us.

Nems wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Yep its insanity Ben and a fear of whites not being dominat in the US anymore.
Always fear is used in the arguments, as to me no matter what skin tone they are all American.

To me, America shouldn't be a racial nation at all, but a people connected by a common viewpoint. It's been that way for me my whole life, I got along with people who thought like me, rather than those who look like me. I think that's what an immigrant nation should become. If you're going to steal good people and ideas from other cultures, at least be honest about it

Is your view a majority or minority view would you say, in your area?

I'd say in my area, it's a minority view, at least by a bit. There are many like me who see the value of so-called illegal immigration, but also a very large number who think they're leaching off legal citizens. The facts speak for themselves, though, and they say my state would be worse off without the immigrants. Furthermore, the immigrants are very often blood-kin to people whose families have lived here for several centuries, so I would say they have at least as much claim, if not more, than I do. My dad was from Texas but I was born close to Washington D.C. and was moved here as a kid.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Nems wrote:

As many as that undocumented?! Does that mean they cant work or get healthcare or insurance etc?

They get hired by businesses and people willing to defy the law, but they don't get the full benefits of American citizenship. They pick fruit, wrangle livestock, repair housing and likewise do things for money that the rest of us wouldn't get out of bed to do. The state of Texas did a study and concluded that if it weren't for "illegal" labor, we'd be in economic recession. Literally, we need them as much (or more) as they need us.

there is always someone ready to profiteer on the back of another, that's the same the world over

Nems wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Nems wrote:

As many as that undocumented?! Does that mean they cant work or get healthcare or insurance etc?

They get hired by businesses and people willing to defy the law, but they don't get the full benefits of American citizenship. They pick fruit, wrangle livestock, repair housing and likewise do things for money that the rest of us wouldn't get out of bed to do. The state of Texas did a study and concluded that if it weren't for "illegal" labor, we'd be in economic recession. Literally, we need them as much (or more) as they need us.

there is  always someone ready to profiteer on the back of another, that's the same the world over

Yep! That's the little-acknowledged schism among the right-wingers here in the U.S. The rank-and-file everyday right wingers don't profit from immigration, but the rich ones who finance the politicians are really happy having an illegal and frightened workforce they can exploit ...

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Nems wrote:

Is your view a majority or minority view would you say, in your area?

I'd say in my area, it's a minority view, at least by a bit. There are many like me who see the value of so-called illegal immigration, but also a very large number who think they're leaching off legal citizens. The facts speak for themselves, though, and they say my state would be worse off without the immigrants. Furthermore, the immigrants are very often blood-kin to people whose families have lived here for several centuries, so I would say they have at least as much claim, if not more, than I do. My dad was from Texas but I was born close to Washington D.C. and was moved here as a kid.

Where I come from is very interesting from a view of immigration, same as you are describing but in a tiny concentrated area.

Right better go to work another murder and a couple of stabbings over the weekend will keep me out of mischief!

Tommy Monk wrote:This letter could have been sent from anyone, couldn't it!?


Couldn't it also have been from someone who is totally against the march going ahead, and trying to stir up trouble etc...!?


I smell a rat here... living in a big straw man!!!

Interesting question Tommy. You think the letter might be fake in order to get the march cancelled?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:Liverpool is a fantastic city that gave so much to the wealth of this nation over many generations.
It deserves better than to have these clowns running amok in it.

Scumbags

Exactly right, if Liverpool in its great days had turned away immigrants, you'd have to kiss this goodbye:



... unless you think a guy named McCartney was native British

You could have chosen a better Beatles track.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:Liverpool is a fantastic city that gave so much to the wealth of this nation over many generations.
It deserves better than to have these clowns running amok in it.

Scumbags

Exactly right, if Liverpool in its great days had turned away immigrants, you'd have to kiss this goodbye:



... unless you think a guy named McCartney was native British

You could have chosen a better Beatles track.

I had to pick a McCartney one ... no, of course Lennon is also quite an Irish name. Actually Lennon identified as Irish more than Paul ever did ... by the way ...

You should have picked "Revolution".

Raggamuffin wrote:You should have picked "Revolution".

One of my favorites!

AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!



It's a well-known fact that John Lennon invented the rock'n roll scream. And was pretty much better than anything Jim Morrison or Elvis Presley ever aspired to (Didge)

Sorry, the Beatles were the best ever as far as I'm concerned, and anybody else who came up with anything good was just copying them

I would have chosen:





Or






In fact too many to choose from 

Cuchulain wrote:I would have chosen:





Or






In fact too many to choose from 

Exactly, Elvis was a has-been compared to the Fab Four

Seriously, Elvis can eat a dick, give me the Beatles any day.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:I would have chosen:





Or






In fact too many to choose from 

Exactly, Elvis was a has-been compared to the Fab Four

Seriously, Elvis can eat a dick, give me the Beatles any day.

How dare you, that is Blasphemy, now for your penance, you have to sing 4 Hound Dogs and 12 All shook ups

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:You should have picked "Revolution".

One of my favorites!

AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!



It's a well-known fact that John Lennon invented the rock'n roll scream. And was pretty much better than anything Jim Morrison or Elvis Presley ever aspired to (Didge)  

Revolution is fabulous - I love the way it just rolls along.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:You should have picked "Revolution".

One of my favorites!

AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!



It's a well-known fact that John Lennon invented the rock'n roll scream. And was pretty much better than anything Jim Morrison or Elvis Presley ever aspired to (Didge)  

Revolution is fabulous - I love the way it just rolls along.

I even like the slower version ...



Lennon's actually a bit darker on this version

Ooooh no Ben - that doesn't have the same bite.

Raggamuffin wrote:Ooooh no Ben - that doesn't have the same bite.

It's far more mellow, but it does have John singing: "But when you talk about destruction ... don't you know that you can count me out (whispered: "In!").

Yeah, John wanted to ...

John was always a bit of a rebel.

Raggamuffin wrote:John was always a bit of a rebel.

At least, his heart was there. He never had to pick up a machine gun and defy a dictator, but we're all stuck with the lives we're given

The BEATLES were great, but only Elvis could sing any type of song. From Church based blues through to Country, love songs and Rock and Roll.

nicko wrote:The BEATLES were great, but only Elvis could sing  any type of song.  From Church based blues through to Country, love songs and Rock and Roll.

Yeah, okay, but he couldn't hold a candle to Lennon, McCartney or Harrison for that matter when it came to songwriting. Maybe -- MAYBE -- Ringo

Raggamuffin wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:This letter could have been sent from anyone, couldn't it!?


Couldn't it also have been from someone who is totally against the march going ahead, and trying to stir up trouble etc...!?


I smell a rat here... living in a big straw man!!!

Interesting question Tommy. You think the letter might be fake in order to get the march cancelled?

OF course it is a distinct possibility... could have been anyone for that reason or just to stir up hatred towards the anti mass immigratiow voice.


As this whole group is probably designed to do... like all against mass immigration have previously been labeled as far right Nazi BNP knuckle draggers etc... this group will be the new label for anyone Who is against mass immigration although over 75% of the UK population are against mass immigration.



And dodge .. its all about numbers and quality of those coming skills etc and need to be free of diseases that threaten UK people.

Yet more drivel from Tommy

Ben, was it Ringo who "sang" Octopusses Garden? And who wrote it?

nicko wrote:Ben, was it Ringo who "sang"  Octopusses  Garden?   And who wrote it?

Ringo wrote and sang that one. But he was notorious for writing songs that turned out to be copies of songs that were already around ... much like me at his age, it's hard not to do when you're trying to write an original song

Don't want to be misunderstood, I think Ringo was fantastic, a very good drummer and certainly better than Pete Best.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

nicko wrote:The BEATLES were great, but only Elvis could sing  any type of song.  From Church based blues through to Country, love songs and Rock and Roll.

Yeah, okay, but he couldn't hold a candle to Lennon, McCartney or Harrison for that matter when it came to songwriting. Maybe -- MAYBE -- Ringo

Great song writers and great band, but Elvis was the King and they will never be a match for his showmanship.

Ringo also wrote and sang another one, that was similar to Texas music the group was exposed to when they came to Dallas. It's obscure but the guitar work is really good.

Cuchulain wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

nicko wrote:The BEATLES were great, but only Elvis could sing  any type of song.  From Church based blues through to Country, love songs and Rock and Roll.

Yeah, okay, but he couldn't hold a candle to Lennon, McCartney or Harrison for that matter when it came to songwriting. Maybe -- MAYBE -- Ringo

Great song writers and great band, but Elvis was the King and they will never be a match for his showmanship.

And if this was about showmanship, that would be a valid point. Unfortunately, this is about writing and performing music

Me and a buddy put on a 45 of "What Goes On" in this little record store owned by an old lady in Fort Worth years ago -- she said, "Listen to them pickin'!" You don't get better praise than that.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Great song writers and great band, but Elvis was the King and they will never be a match for his showmanship.

And if this was about showmanship, that would be a valid point. Unfortunately, this is about writing and performing music

Behave his performances outshine theirs everyday of the week mate 
His voice better by a long shot also.
Do not get me wrong I love the Beatles, but they will never top Elvis, sorry.

Fifty years ago today, the Beatles played their only Dallas concert. And I was there. Me, my best friends Bobbie and Sondra, and 10,000 other Beatlemaniacs. It was the highlight of my almost 14 years. Nothing was as exciting before — or possibly since. Yet now I scarcely remember what all the shouting was about.

Well, we didn’t shout. We were far too sophisticated for that. “We might have squealed a little,” Sondra said.

The Beatles burst on the American music scene earlier that year like a jolt of electricity, splitting the world into before and after. Now that pop music is so diverse, it’s hard to imagine how the band would affect today’s music. Yet the Beatles are part of the reason for pop’s diversity. After the Beatles, nothing was ever the same — not for music and not for Bobbie, Sondra and me.

We each picked our Beatle. Mine was John. He was intelligent, cocky, smart-alecky and a rebel. He was also “the married Beatle.” I didn’t suppose I should really date John, so publicly I was stuck with Paul. Secretly, I knew John would dump Cyn once he met me. It would be a scandal and all, but everybody would just have to get over it.

http://www.dallasnews.com/entertainment/music/headlines/20140918-50-years-ago-today-beatles-played-one-and-only-dallas-concert.ece

Not in any way forgotten

Cuchulain wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Great song writers and great band, but Elvis was the King and they will never be a match for his showmanship.

And if this was about showmanship, that would be a valid point. Unfortunately, this is about writing and performing music

Behave his performances outshine theirs everyday of the week mate 
His voice better by a long shot also.
Do not get me wrong I love the Beatles, but they will never top Elvis, sorry.

Eight days a week?

Sorry, Elvis would be honored to carry the Beatles' instrunents. He'd say, "Ah yeah, thankyaveruhmuch"

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Behave his performances outshine theirs everyday of the week mate 
His voice better by a long shot also.
Do not get me wrong I love the Beatles, but they will never top Elvis, sorry.

Eight days a week?

Sorry, Elvis would be honored to carry the Beatles' instrunents. He'd say, "Ah yeah, thankyaveruhmuch"

Lol, they would be behind him like lapdogs lol 

It's weird, but maybe the Beatles were historically more of a refreshing breath of air for Americans than for the English?

They broke onto the scene just as we were ready to stop mourning Kennedy -- my own mother told me about that.

Regardless -- greatest pop/rock group ever. The premier innovators, who made great dance music and then completely transcended it. I've never heard better, but I really hope someday I do -- that would have to be utterly amazing.