no difference to trade if we leave the eu....we all know that..

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 9:21 am

http://news.sky.com/story/1485951/jcb-boss-eu-exit-will-make-no-difference

but its the scaremongering that it will that keeps some believing it will..

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 1:40 pm

Trade will continue!!!

We buy more from them and they need our money so will not put a barrier to this which may affect this.

Plus the EU cannot refuse to trade as part of EU rules.

Also we would re take up our seat at the world trade organisation and as a member of it, they also cannot refuse trade.

One of the main reasons for wanting to leave is to regain control over our borders and out of EU free movement... this is a non negotiable part of EU membership so the only way is out!

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 1:42 pm

One boss and his opinion..

Is that it, where is the rest backing him?

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 1:43 pm

It is up to The British people to decide.

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 1:49 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Trade will continue!!!

We buy more from them and they need our money so will not put a barrier to this which may affect this.

Plus the EU cannot refuse to trade as part of EU rules.

Also we would re take up our seat at the world trade organisation and as a member of it, they also cannot refuse trade.

One of the main reasons for wanting to leave is to regain control over our borders and out of EU free movement... this is a non negotiable part of EU membership so the only way is out!

not just our borders but control over the laws we make for our country ... Smile

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 1:55 pm

Correct!

It is up to The British people who governs us.

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 2:01 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:It is up to The British people to decide.

Yes it is up to them and those foreign working here to decide, as their fate also is very much so effected by the outcome, but the point is will you respect their decision?

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 2:04 pm

It is not up to foreign people.

It is up to The British people!

Will you respect our decision!?

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 2:07 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:It is not up to foreign people. It is up to The British people! Will you respect our decision!?

Of course they have a right to say, that is democracy.
Of course I will respect the decision, the point is, will you?

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 2:09 pm

Foreign EU nationals have no right to vote in our national decision on whether to leave the EU or not.

They have the say over their own countries membership.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3084754/Migrants-s-votes-force-stay-EU-PM-urged-ban-one-million-Europeans-voting-Britain-s-referendum.html#ixzz3aQrpNIzv

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 2:21 pm

Yes they have every right to vote where they are working in this country which will effect them.
You are basically trying to deny them the right they should have to vote

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 2:28 pm

It is up to British people to decide whether UK stay in or leaves the EU... not other foreign EU nationals...

They have their own countries to vote in.

EU nationals are not allowed to vote in our national elections and certainly should not be allowed to vote on our country being in or out of the EU.

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 3:06 pm

EU nationals do not get to vote in our general elections and have no place voting in OUR decision whether to leave the EU or not!!!

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 3:16 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:EU nationals do not get to vote in our general elections and have no place voting in OUR decision whether to leave the EU or not!!!

They certainly have a right to vote on EU decisions.
So you are wrong again;

http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/faq/voting-and-registration/who-is-eligible-to-vote-at-a-uk-general-election

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 3:21 pm

On a British constitutional issue they have no right to vote.

Only British people have the right to vote on British constitutional issues!

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 3:23 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:On a British constitutional issue they have no right to vote.

Only British people have the right to vote on British constitutional issues!

Its an issue for those working here also, so they have every right to vote.

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 3:39 pm

No they don't... it is an issue for Britain and British people...

Did you not read the article I posted...!?

EU nationals don't get to vote on our national govt or constitutional issues.

They are guests in our country, not British citizens.

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 3:48 pm

Wrong. Again they are working in the UK based on the EU, this is a vote whether to stay in the EU, so they have every right to vote on such a decision.

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 3:58 pm

No they don't... read the mail article...

They do not get to vote in our gen election and should certainly not have a say on our countries membership of EU.

It is a British constitutional issue for British people to decide.

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 4:00 pm

It will be down to thew Government to decide where you are going off the Daily Mail?
Behave, you know they have every right and the only reason you shit your pants on this as their vote could be crucial.
There is no reason to deny them on something which matters with the EU, which by law have the right to vote on.

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 4:05 pm

They don't get to vote on our national govt and should certainly not get to vote on our constitutional matters.

It is a matter of British sovereignty for British people to decide!!!

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 4:07 pm

This is not a vote on the national government but the EU, hence why you are wrong here.
They are allowed to vote on matter with the EU
So tough luck.

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 4:10 pm

They are not entitled to vote on British constitutional matters.

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 4:12 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:They are not entitled to vote on British constitutional matters.

Its a vote on the EU

DOH

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 4:20 pm

It is a vote on an important British constitutional issue... not an election of EU ministers.

by Raggamuffin Mon May 18, 2015 4:20 pm

It would be a no vote anyway, regardless.

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 4:22 pm

Its a vote on the EU which there are people from within the EU of which the decision will effect.
Thus they have every right to vote on.
You can keep spouting nonsense Tommy and you have no utter point.
They are allowed to vote on EU maters and this is a matter regarding the EU

by Raggamuffin Mon May 18, 2015 4:23 pm

It all depends on which electoral register they use. Cameron wants to use the one for general elections - ie, British people only.

by Tommy Monk Mon May 18, 2015 5:18 pm

No dodge, you are wrong... this is a British constitutional matter for British people to decide.

You can't have foreign nationals having a vote on Britains future.

That would be an absurdity...

Stop being an idiot!!!

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 6:32 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No dodge, you are wrong... this is a British constitutional matter for British people to decide.

You can't have foreign nationals having a vote on Britains future.

That would be an absurdity...

Stop being an idiot!!!

exactly the vote should be made purely by British nationals...

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 6:37 pm

Definition of irony

Ukippers moan they did not get to vote on the EU claiming how undemocratic that is.

They then demand that EU migrant workers who work and pay taxes who's livelihood is dependent on this referendum should be denied the right to vote, thus being undemocratic.

by Raggamuffin Mon May 18, 2015 6:38 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:No dodge, you are wrong... this is a British constitutional matter for British people to decide.

You can't have foreign nationals having a vote on Britains future.

That would be an absurdity...

Stop being an idiot!!!
exactly the vote should be made purely by British nationals...

Yes, it should.

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 6:59 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:No dodge, you are wrong... this is a British constitutional matter for British people to decide.

You can't have foreign nationals having a vote on Britains future.

That would be an absurdity...

Stop being an idiot!!!
exactly the vote should be made purely by British nationals...

agree

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