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Child abuse case dropped against Labour peer for second time
Child abuse case dropped against Labour peer for second time
Campaigners criticise the Crown Prosecution Service's decision not to put Lord Greville Janner on trial for historic sex abuse allegations
Lord Greville Janner of Braunstone, QC, will escape charges for the second time over alleged historic child sex crimes, as Alison Saunders, the director of public prosecutions, will announce on Thursday that it is not in the public interest to put him on trial.
Crown Prosecution Service lawyers have spent nine months studying evidence gathered by Leicestershire police’s Operation Enamel and detectives have interviewed more than 20 men who claim they were abused by Lord Janner in their youth.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11540872/Child-abuse-case-dropped-against-Labour-peer-for-second-time.html
And.....
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2014/03/22/greville-janner-tony-blair-madeline-mccann-margaret-hodge-and-the-vip-child-abuse-connection/
So. WHY??????
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Don't forget this bit Eddie.
I think it explains quite how and why...
In 1974, a group of child sex abusers launched the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE). This group was legal at the time, and sought to promote the rights of ‘paedophiles’. The group espoused the view that children had the right to indulge in their sexual feelings with adults, and argued the age of consent should be lowered to four years old, or abolished altogether.
This was not some fringe group, hidden away. They had thousands of members, many from senior positions in the media, the security services, politics and other establishment positions.
The members were public and built affiliations with the Gay Liberation Front, the Campaign for Homosexual Equality, mental health charity Mind, and even human rights organisation Liberty (previously named The National Council for Civil Liberties). The leaders of PIE shared platforms with Harriet Harman, Patricia Hewitt, and others.
PIE members had been using the ‘Contact’ page of their magazine The Magpie, to connect and network with each other. They also used it to introduce consumers of child pornography to suppliers. In 1978, the homes of PIE members were raided and they faced charges of conspiracy against public morality. One person however, was not tried. He was referred to as “Mr Henderson” until the Private Eye outed him as Sir Peter Hayman, a senior diplomat and former British High Commissioner to Canada. While other PIE members who indulged in the same activity as Hayman were sent for trial at the Old Bailey, Hayman was sent home by the Attorney General and carried on regardless.
PIE was dissolved in 1984, but not before it had allowed for the creation of a powerful network of paedophiles within the most senior ranks of the UK establishment.
In the documentary Nightmares at Elm Guest House, former National Adult Advisor of the National Association for Young People in Care (NAYPIC) Chris Fay, attests that this paedophile ring was widely known, but that the membership of such senior figures had a double lock effect. Firstly, the members were in positions of such seniority that they had the political and financial power to keep stories suppressed, close down police investigations and keep members out of jail. Secondly, the members were such significant establishment faces that the potential impact of their exposure incentivised those around them who knew to keep quiet.
http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/12/18/uk-establishment-closes-ranks-as-organised-paedophile-network-leads-back-to-no-10/comment-page-1/
I think it explains quite how and why...
In 1974, a group of child sex abusers launched the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE). This group was legal at the time, and sought to promote the rights of ‘paedophiles’. The group espoused the view that children had the right to indulge in their sexual feelings with adults, and argued the age of consent should be lowered to four years old, or abolished altogether.
This was not some fringe group, hidden away. They had thousands of members, many from senior positions in the media, the security services, politics and other establishment positions.
The members were public and built affiliations with the Gay Liberation Front, the Campaign for Homosexual Equality, mental health charity Mind, and even human rights organisation Liberty (previously named The National Council for Civil Liberties). The leaders of PIE shared platforms with Harriet Harman, Patricia Hewitt, and others.
PIE members had been using the ‘Contact’ page of their magazine The Magpie, to connect and network with each other. They also used it to introduce consumers of child pornography to suppliers. In 1978, the homes of PIE members were raided and they faced charges of conspiracy against public morality. One person however, was not tried. He was referred to as “Mr Henderson” until the Private Eye outed him as Sir Peter Hayman, a senior diplomat and former British High Commissioner to Canada. While other PIE members who indulged in the same activity as Hayman were sent for trial at the Old Bailey, Hayman was sent home by the Attorney General and carried on regardless.
PIE was dissolved in 1984, but not before it had allowed for the creation of a powerful network of paedophiles within the most senior ranks of the UK establishment.
In the documentary Nightmares at Elm Guest House, former National Adult Advisor of the National Association for Young People in Care (NAYPIC) Chris Fay, attests that this paedophile ring was widely known, but that the membership of such senior figures had a double lock effect. Firstly, the members were in positions of such seniority that they had the political and financial power to keep stories suppressed, close down police investigations and keep members out of jail. Secondly, the members were such significant establishment faces that the potential impact of their exposure incentivised those around them who knew to keep quiet.
http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/12/18/uk-establishment-closes-ranks-as-organised-paedophile-network-leads-back-to-no-10/comment-page-1/
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Hi Matt!
It's Disgusting! There are paedos all over the place in these political parties!! They're all as bad as each other!
Let's here what the labour supporters make of it.
It's Disgusting! There are paedos all over the place in these political parties!! They're all as bad as each other!
Let's here what the labour supporters make of it.
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Basically Eddie, because they are waiting until they drop off their perch before they do anything, like Leon Britton, Janner (who now has dementia), Cyril Smith etc and the ones the Margeret Thatcher was told about and refused to do anything. It went right to the top and they don't want it uncovered, why do you think the Inquiry that May promised is still not happening? The survivors and still clamouring for it to start.
Lot of information on this link:
http://www.exaronews.com/content/child-sex-abuse-fernbridge-and-fairbank-exaro-story-thread
Enoch Powell has now been named by a Bishop:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3016399/Enoch-Powell-named-bishop-sex-abuse-probe-Scotland-Yard-investigate-satanic-abuse-claim-demands-filed-held-serving-MPs.html
Even Theresa May has said it is only the tip of the iceberg:
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-03-14/theresa-may-warns-sex-abuse-claims-are-tip-of-the-iceberg/
In fact the only reason most of it has been uncovered is because of unrelenting pressure and investigation by MPs John Mann and Tom Watson.
Lot of information on this link:
http://www.exaronews.com/content/child-sex-abuse-fernbridge-and-fairbank-exaro-story-thread
Enoch Powell has now been named by a Bishop:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3016399/Enoch-Powell-named-bishop-sex-abuse-probe-Scotland-Yard-investigate-satanic-abuse-claim-demands-filed-held-serving-MPs.html
Even Theresa May has said it is only the tip of the iceberg:
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-03-14/theresa-may-warns-sex-abuse-claims-are-tip-of-the-iceberg/
In fact the only reason most of it has been uncovered is because of unrelenting pressure and investigation by MPs John Mann and Tom Watson.
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It's not just Tories though is it? .theyre all at it!
Disgusting bunch of evil bastards!
Thanks for the links will check them out
Disgusting bunch of evil bastards!
Thanks for the links will check them out
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It appears he is suffering from advanced dementia, requiring constant care...
now regardless of your feelings about HIM
the LAW, quite rightly says that if someone does not have the mental faculties to efend themselves OR appreciate what is going on they cannot be tried.
therefor the DPP's decision is the correct one.....
the fact that he SHOULD have been done years ago is neither here nor there as far as todays decision is concerned.
now regardless of your feelings about HIM
the LAW, quite rightly says that if someone does not have the mental faculties to efend themselves OR appreciate what is going on they cannot be tried.
therefor the DPP's decision is the correct one.....
the fact that he SHOULD have been done years ago is neither here nor there as far as todays decision is concerned.
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Agreed, they are leaving it too late on purpose, because they don't want it to come out.
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What worries me is Cameron called it a 'conspiracy theory' and then stopped files being looked at:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529/Cabinet-office-child-abuse-cover-MoS-beats-attempt-No10-gag-VIP-file-shows-Thatcher-knew-paedophile-MP-Cyril-Smith.html
and refused to allow 4 other files to be looked at:
http://news.sky.com/story/1440318/family-demands-names-of-new-child-abuse-files
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529/Cabinet-office-child-abuse-cover-MoS-beats-attempt-No10-gag-VIP-file-shows-Thatcher-knew-paedophile-MP-Cyril-Smith.html
and refused to allow 4 other files to be looked at:
http://news.sky.com/story/1440318/family-demands-names-of-new-child-abuse-files
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It's almost like these cases are never supposed to heard.....
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11543630/Lord-Janner-allegations-are-latest-to-dog-Westminster.html
It's diabolical, but John Mann and Tom Watson are not about to drop it thankfully, and the survivors have banded together to form a very impressive protest group.
It's diabolical, but John Mann and Tom Watson are not about to drop it thankfully, and the survivors have banded together to form a very impressive protest group.
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And you lot are going to vote either Labour or Tory.
You need your brains testing & your hypocrite levels checked.
You need your brains testing & your hypocrite levels checked.
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If someone is a pervert, it's not because of their politics, it's because they are a pervert. The trouble was, the main pervert, Leon Britton, was given the file of what was going on and conveniently 'lost' it.
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If you vote UKIP,you'll feel cleansed.
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Never going to happen, I'd be one of the booers on tonights debate. Oh, they all booed lol
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Either wait 'til they drop dead or if they are still alive just claim that they are away with the fairies and not able to stand trial.
What incentive is that for people who claim they are victims to come forward and give their account?
None
What incentive is that for people who claim they are victims to come forward and give their account?
None
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eddie wrote:It's not just Tories though is it? .theyre all at it!
Disgusting bunch of evil bastards!
Thanks for the links will check them out
It's a mistake to view politics as bilateral. The parties--particularly RW and LW--are not just different brands, but entirely different products. LW = interests of all people. RW = special interests, particularly interests of the wealthy. There is nothing that they have in common.
As a consequence, the attitudes of the two are vastly different. The LW politician sees his work as a responsibility. The RW politician sees how much he can steal, or what he can get away with. Two completely different people, with no basis for comparison.
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@quill
LOLZ would be nice if it was true but,
LW and RW will sell you out just as fast
Both are after self gain, and both gain more by sucking up to Corporate masters
Obama has been just as much a shill for big business as any other president.
it is bilateral LW/RW/corporate interests versus the REST
remember you can tell when a politician is lying by the fact his lips are moving. their lips don't move unless they are lying
LOLZ would be nice if it was true but,
LW and RW will sell you out just as fast
Both are after self gain, and both gain more by sucking up to Corporate masters
Obama has been just as much a shill for big business as any other president.
it is bilateral LW/RW/corporate interests versus the REST
remember you can tell when a politician is lying by the fact his lips are moving. their lips don't move unless they are lying
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@veya...you've given up trying. Otherwise you wouldn't settle for platitudes.
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i vote Greens
an extreme LW party
Both major parties suck
Greens are able to pull about 10% of the primary vote now, If they can push it past 20% it will break the Westminster system or force us into minority gov't which only happened once in my lifetime (Julia Gillard's) and was probably the best most balanced policy implementation ever.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/nsw-election-2015/results/
PS. liberals and Nationals combine to become the coalition. the RW party (Tony Abbott's currently)
But I am pretty close to giving up, Democracy has failed it is corrupted beyond use. I see no way of fixing things other than revolution and the inevitable violence that implies.
an extreme LW party
Both major parties suck
Greens are able to pull about 10% of the primary vote now, If they can push it past 20% it will break the Westminster system or force us into minority gov't which only happened once in my lifetime (Julia Gillard's) and was probably the best most balanced policy implementation ever.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/nsw-election-2015/results/
PS. liberals and Nationals combine to become the coalition. the RW party (Tony Abbott's currently)
But I am pretty close to giving up, Democracy has failed it is corrupted beyond use. I see no way of fixing things other than revolution and the inevitable violence that implies.
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I'm not that pessimistic...well, you know my politics.
I just don't thing bilateralism is real.
I just don't thing bilateralism is real.
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