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Post by Guest Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:15 pm

Palestinian armed groups displayed a flagrant disregard for the lives of civilians by repeatedly launching indiscriminate rockets and mortars towards civilian areas in Israel during the conflict in July and August 2014, said Amnesty International in a new report published today.
Unlawful and deadly: Rocket and mortar attacks by Palestinian armed groups during the 2014 Gaza/Israel conflict provides evidence that several attacks launched from inside the Gaza Strip amount to war crimes. Six civilians in Israel, including a four-year-old boy, were killed in such attacks during the 50-day conflict. In the deadliest incident believed to have been caused by a Palestinian attack, 11 children were among 13 Palestinian civilians killed when a projectile fired from within the Gaza Strip landed in the al-Shati refugee camp.


https://www.amnesty.org/en/articles/news/2015/03/palestinian-armed-groups-killed-civilians-on-both-sides-in-2014-gaza-conflict/

Not far enough this report which fails to mention Palestinian women and children being used as combatants by Hamas, let alone how they command Palestinians to stay after being warned of attacks by Israel.
Yes Israel has committed some crimes of that I have no doubt but this report falls way to short of telling the full story of what Hamas is doing to its civilians. How it has little care for them and provides and builds no shelters for them but tunnels to smuggle weapons.
Its a start and some more honesty is needed

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:54 pm

Oh dear, looks as if Dodge doesn't know that when Palestine went to the ICC they were told that Hamas would be looked into as well, and Hamas said if they had made mistakes they were willing to have them shown, because they would be infinitesimal against the crimes of Israel.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:46 am

risingsun wrote:Oh dear, looks as if Dodge doesn't know that when Palestine went to the ICC they were told that Hamas would be looked into as well, and Hamas said if they had made mistakes they were willing to have them shown, because they would be infinitesimal against the crimes of Israel.



Oh I knew this very well sassy, hence why I knew this report as due out today, hence why it fell short of telling the full picture by a long mile

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:20 pm

Palestinian armed groups committed war crimes by indiscriminately firing rockets at civilians in Israel during the conflict between Israel and Hamas last summer, Amnesty International alleges in a report to be published on Thursday. This is the first report by the London-based human rights group that specifically focuses on Palestinian rocket fire from Gaza. The Amnesty report generally confirms Israeli allegations that Palestinians had fired many rockets from civilian areas, although it could not confirm such a charge in every situation it investigated.

Still, it said that general evidence showed that rocket launchings from civilians areas were “far from isolated incidents.”

“There are credible reports that, in certain cases, Palestinian armed groups launched rockets or mortars from within civilian facilities or compounds, including schools, at least one hospital, and a Greek Orthodox church in Gaza City,” the report says. “In at least two cases, accounts indicate that attacks were launched in spite of the fact that displaced Gazan civilians were sheltering in the compounds or in neighboring buildings,” the report said. It quoted one resident of the al-Karama neighborhood in Gaza City, who described rocket launchings near homes on July 21. “That day, while I was resting, two Kassam rockets were fired from the right and left of the house, at the same time that the missiles from the plane hit us.”

The report specifically points out that the 13 civilians who were killed on July 28th in the Shati refugee camp were likely killed by a Palestinian rocket misfiring, based on testimony from an independent munitions expert.

“The blast crater was too shallow to have been caused by an artillery or mortar shell or a missile fired by a drone, and its circumference was too wide to have been caused by a tank shell,” the report said.

In the weeks leading up to the war, at least 250 rockets and dozens of mortars were fired at Israel, the report noted.


Palestinian armed groups fired 4,881 rockets and 1,753 mortars at Israel between July 8 and August 26, 2014, according to the report. At least 243 were intercepted by Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system, while another 31 fell short and landed within the Gaza Strip, according to the report.

However, Amnesty concluded that the Palestinian attacks did not justify Israel’s response.

“The devastating impact of Israeli attacks on Palestinian civilians during the conflict is undeniable, but violations by one side in a conflict can never justify violations by their opponents,” said Luther.

“The fact that Palestinian armed groups appear to have carried out war crimes by firing indiscriminate rockets and mortars does not absolve the Israeli forces from their obligations under international humanitarian law,” he said.

Amnesty has called on the International Criminal Court to prosecute both Israelis and Palestinians for their actions during the summer and requested the international community to halt arms shipments to both.

The Israeli Embassy in London said in response to the report that it welcomes “the highlighting of Hamas’s war crimes, including the deliberate targeting of Israel’s civilian population by thousands of rockets and mortars.”

It added, “Unlike Hamas, Israel is vigorously investigating its conduct, aiming to draw lessons and minimize civilian harm. Meanwhile, Hamas continues to incite terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians, boast of building new cross-border assault tunnels, and test-fires rockets, in preparation for further violence against Israelis.”


http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Amnesty-International-charges-Palestinians-with-war-crimes-during-Gaza-conflict-395134

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:57 pm

[b]Horror on Gaza Beach: New York Times Photographer Witnesses Israeli Killing of 4 Palestinian Boys[/b]

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/17/horror_on_gaza_beach_new_york

Sources people, sources

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:05 pm

risingsun wrote:[b]Horror on Gaza Beach: New York Times Photographer Witnesses Israeli Killing of 4 Palestinian Boys[/b]

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/17/horror_on_gaza_beach_new_york

Sources people, sources


Really hearsay is your evidence?
I think you need to do better than that to explain the points that have been raised which bring into doubt serious questions about the beech incident.
As again Sassy, explain why there is nobody on the beach in the News photo?
We have photis from your reported be on the scene when the medical crews are there

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:10 pm

The flaw in the link from Sassy's claim:


Read what he said:




GALLAGHER FENWICK: We witnessed the incident. The first strike occurred, and we went out onto our balcony. You have to understand that this happened right in front of the hotels on the Gaza beachfront where most of the international media are staying, so there were very many witnesses of this incident. As I mentioned, there was a first very loud strike that hit a structure that is right on the Gaza port. So, many people looking out onto there. And after that first strike happened, we saw four very young children running away from the point of impact on a completely empty beach, so very clearly visible from a distance. And that’s why—that’s when, excuse me, there was a second strike that obviously hit the other children, so leaving four children dead on that beach—a very shocking incident given that, again, these children were clearly simply playing around and were very, very clearly visible from a distance.


That is very much hearsay and dubious, they hear the first strike and then not take a single photo capturing on film what they have claimed?
That leaves their claim very suspect to say the least because are you going to next tell me a journalist does not have such equipment to hand so they might capture such a photo?
Hence why the above really lacks credibility.

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