Of course the Majority of Muslims dont beleive in violence etc

FROM http://news.sky.com/story/1409237/four-killed-in-anti-charlie-hebdo-protests




Four Killed In Anti-Charlie Hebdo Protests

Dozens more are wounded in violent demonstrations in Niger, as protests against the magazine erupt around the world.


More than 40 people were also injured in the Zinder protests



At least four people have died in Niger in violent protests over the Charlie Hebdo's publication of a new cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed.

Interior minister Hassoumi Massaoudou told Associated Press a security officer and three demonstrators were killed and more than 40 people were injured during the demonstrations in Zinder. Niger's second city.

He said protesters set fire to the French cultural centre and three churches.

The government has banned the sale of the Charlie Hebdo magazine in the predominantly Muslim country.
Zinder



Thousands of people around the world have been taking to the streets to vent anger at the French satirical magazine's new cartoon of the Prophet.

In Pakistan, at least three people were injured when protesters clashed with police outside the French consulate in Karachi.
Video: Anti-Hebdo Protests In Algeria

Among them was an AFP photographer, who was shot in the back.

Police fired water cannon and tear gas into the air as they clashed with protesters from the Jamaat-e-Islami religious party.

The nationwide rallies followed comments by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who led parliament in condemning the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo, whose Paris offices were attacked last week, leaving 12 people dead.
Video: Pakistan Charlie Hebdo Protests

A statement from one faction of the Pakistani Taliban, meanwhile, issued a statement lauding the two brothers who carried out the massacre, saying: "They freed the earth from the existence of filthy blasphemers".

Elsewhere, protesters in the northwest city of Peshawar and central Multan burned French flags in the streets.

Rallies were also held in the capital, Islamabad, and the eastern city of Lahore.


Insulting the Prophet carries the death penalty under Pakistan's blasphemy laws, with 14 people currently on death row.

In the Middle East, Qatar and Bahrain warned that the cartoon published on Wednesday could fuel hatred around the world.

In Amman, around 2,500 protesters set off from Al Husseini mosque under tight security, holding banners that read "insulting the prophet is global terrorism".
Video: 'It's Important To Buy A Copy'

In Algiers, there were clashes as up to 3,000 marchers chanted "We are all Mohammed".

Some shouted support for the Islamist Kouachi brothers who carried out the Charlie Hebdo murders.

Around 100 protesters rallied in Istanbul in response to a call by a group calling itself the Fraternal Platform of the Prophet's Companions, with some holding pictures of the Kouachis.

Thousands of people around the world? My gosh.

So around several thousand people out of 1.6 billion Muslims, which clearly proves the majority of Muslims do not back violence. I mean if you had anything on the scale we saw in Paris, 4 and half million, that would still be 0.5% of Muslims on that figure, but these protests are no where near that number, they got nowhere near 50,000, which would be around 0.003% of Muslims in the world. Again I am being generous at 50,000 using here, where it was more like 10,000 around the world. If it was 50,000 Muslims kicking off that is only 1 in 32,000 Muslims, if more likely it was 10000 protesting, that would be one in every 160,000 Muslims. Out those that did protest most were  less than a few hundred that were violent.


So basically then actually the vast  99.9% of Muslims are not violent, as if we are to believe Victor we should have least seen 801 million Muslims being violent an protesting.


Well done Victor, you just proved inadvertently that the vast majority of Muslims (by a humongous margin to those who do), are not violent

It's just sad how people let a few nutters represent 1.5 billion human beings in their view ... and then mock the phrase "it's only a few" to boot. Hell, "it's only a few" is what I remind myself when I see some of our UK members' antics here

Ben_Reilly wrote:It's just sad how people let a few nutters represent 1.5 billion human beings in their view ... and then mock the phrase "it's only a few" to boot. Hell, "it's only a few" is what I remind myself when I see some of our UK members' antics here

Well the whole thread was a massive own goal from Victor. As we saw vastly more people take to the streets of France, unified in defiance to not bow down to fear that no ore than 10,000 take to the streets for the protest. Huge difference

What did we see here? Yes the usual cold blooded barbaric murders and at best 10,000 Muslim demonstrating and even less than a few hundred committing violence.

So we can tell here from this the vast majority of Muslims certainly do not seem bothered or care to join the protests or the incidents of trouble. (Yet the majority are meant to be violent? How odd)
For people who I am told are meant to be over insensitive and go mental at any insult to their deity or its prophet. You can clearly deduce many (99/9%) did not seem to care over something that (I m told) is meant to make them go nuts and be violent. (I never saw 800,0000,000 Muslims protesting and committing violence , maybe Victor can explain his maths)
I mean there is a sizable amount of extremists and terrorists nobody denies this,but this is miles removed from being anywhere near becoming a majority

I just don't see how someone can't visualize, say, the Charlie Hebdo terrorists doing their thing, with the more than a billion other Muslims not simultaneously doing it. It seems really simple, not an intellectual exercise at all, really.

It's very easy for me to imagine one person killing in the name of their religion while another person who puts the same verbal label on his or her own religious beliefs simply doing their jobs, worrying about their loved ones, going grocery shopping, jacking off, whatever.

There's a whole town in Oklahoma that only lets in the people who believe what Timothy McVeigh believed, but none of them ever blew up a federal building ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim_City,_Oklahoma

Ben_Reilly wrote:It's just sad how people let a few nutters represent 1.5 billion human beings in their view ... and then mock the phrase "it's only a few" to boot. Hell, "it's only a few" is what I remind myself when I see some of our UK members' antics here

Well, the point is that only a few of a few are involved in this so-called terrorist thing in the first place.  When we call them 'Muslim extremists' we are doing a disservice not only to Muslims, but to ourselves.  We lose sight of the fact that they are just a criminal element, having nothing formally to do with Islam.  Their interpretations so twist the principles of the Muslim faith, as to have nothing to do it.

A good parallel is right here in America.  Few people realize that the KKK began with as a Christian movement.  It is not for nothing that KKK rallies feature a burning cross.  "We are a Christian organization," Frank Ancona, the imperial wizard of the Traditional American Knights of the KKK is quoted by The Christian Post as saying.  According to Kelly J. Baker, of the University of Tennessee:

Kelly J. Baker wrote:William J. Simmons, a fraternalist and former minister, organized the charter for the new order and consecrated its beginning by setting afire a cross on the top of Stone Mountain, Georgia.
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The Miami Herald documented the “weird” ceremonies of the Klan from a distance....Although Simmons cloaked the new order in the familiar white robes of its predecessor, he explicitly developed the Christian nature of the order and its ties to religious faith and patriotism.

Perhaps in the future it would be informative to refer to the KKK as Christian extremists.  The parallel to so-called Muslim extremists is apt.  Neither one represent the religion, but because they claim the religion at their inception, the religion has to bear the burden of sharing the name.  I can see the headlines: Christian Extremists hang 50 black men, behead 67 Jews...world wonders why Rome puts up with it...Vatican silent.

Original Quill wrote:When we call them 'Muslim extremists' we are doing a disservice not only to Muslims, but to ourselves.

I'm glad you said that, I cringe inwardly every time I use the phrase. Just to clarify, I use it only to be understood, not that I think these people have anything to do with some poor mother in Libya who wants her kids to do their homework, or some poor fuck-up in Saudi Arabia who's just trying to make a bit of extra cash selling weed http://www.hightimes.com/read/saudi-arabia-beheads-four-brothers-over-marijuana

Nobody in the mainstream Christian movement, and few outside it, ever give any credence to the KKK's claim that it's Christian. I think it's a privilege thing, where Christians are empowered to disown anything that claims Christianity as its basis but doesn't play nice. Muslims, sadly, aren't at that point, and I think it's a mistake for any Muslim to make it a point to speak out against terrorism specifically because of that.

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YOU really are an immature, clueless, know-nothing little dickless wonder, aren't you "darkless" ?!?

RACIST, xenophobic, hatemongering spineless little spammer ~ even your attempted abuses against other members on here is seen to be quite weak, puerile, lacklustre ~ typical of a chronic spammer such as yourself with your early high school intellect and lack of emotional maturity..

ONCE a fuckwit, always a gormless braindead fuckwit !

Brasidas wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:
It's just sad how people let a few nutters represent 1.5 billion human beings in their view ... and then mock the phrase "it's only a few" to boot. Hell, "it's only a few" is what I remind myself when I see some of our UK members' antics here

Well the whole thread was a massive own goal from Victor. As we saw vastly more people take to the streets of France, unified in defiance to not bow down to fear that no ore than 10,000 take to the streets for the protest. Huge difference.........................

I mean there is a sizable amount of extremists and terrorists nobody denies this,but this is miles removed from being anywhere near becoming a majority.

WHAT I believe that the ol' Vic has demonstrated to us on this forum this year, is that his previous creeping senility from the last couple of years is now sadly fast degenerating into galloping dementia  !!!

AT THIS RATE, by this time next year he will probably be shut away in a nursing home, wearing nappies and dribbling out both sides of his mouth..  Dreaming fondly of long past glories and adventures.  

I just don't understand how anybody can fail so epically to see this straight. And I'm not pushing any agenda other than "don't blame people for things they had nothing to do with."

The Hebdo killers? Fuck them, hang the motherfuckers. But how you judge someone else who has the same superficial background or culture, I just don't see how you can do that sort of thing and think you're on the right side. If that's fair, I don't want to be a human being anymore.

Lone Wolf wrote:

Brasidas wrote:
Well the whole thread was a massive own goal from Victor. As we saw vastly more people take to the streets of France, unified in defiance to not bow down to fear that no ore than 10,000 take to the streets for the protest. Huge difference.........................

I mean there is a sizable amount of extremists and terrorists nobody denies this,but this is miles removed from being anywhere near becoming a majority.

WHAT I believe that the ol' Vic has demonstrated to us on this forum this year,  is that his previous creeping senility from the last couple of years is now sadly fast degenerating into galloping dementia  !!!

AT THIS RATE, by this time next year he will probably be shut away in a nursing home, wearing nappies and dribbling out both sides of his mouth..  Dreaming fondly of long past glories and adventures.  

I see the village pig has managed to sober up enough to hit a few random keys again

of course...I COULD be disingenious and "claim" that you are all "misreading" (deliberately) what I said...and that I was making a straight statement of fact....... which the title would bear out...

re read it with that in mind....

Now....

how do you know what I meant?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Empirical evidence of your previous arguments and views.
A natural reaction for people to have then, based on this, would you not agree Victor?

Ben_Reilly wrote:It's just sad how people let a few nutters represent 1.5 billion human beings in their view ... and then mock the phrase "it's only a few" to boot. Hell, "it's only a few" is what I remind myself when I see some of our UK members' antics here

Hey! I am very well-behaved!!!

darknessss wrote:of course...I COULD be disingenious and "claim" that you are all "misreading" (deliberately) what I said...and that I was making a straight statement of fact....... which the title would bear out...

re read it with that in mind....

Now....

how do you know what I meant?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Perhaps you were misunderstood, I'll give you that.  But we are used to lil Andy, who used to simply post and leave it to make it's own statement.  Of course, its bias is in the selection of what to include in his litany...it was situation communication at its best.

It is well and good to say, I'm just posting facts.  But that begs the question, why are you posting at all?  You see--something I taught raw university freshman--If you really don't have a thesis (argument), the tendency is not to say anything at all.  You give yourself away. No one writes without a thesis.  No one just posts facts, without intending an argument.

But what are we to think?  Lil andy used to try to say he was just posting facts, but everyone knew what he was doing.  Situation communication is just another way of making an argument.  And, oh yes...otherwise you would be quick to deny it, given the nature of our little forum.