Are young people getting treated better at work?

WHEN it comes to attracting and retaining talent, there’s no doubt that some companies skew toward millennials.

Employers are providing easy mobile access to work files, encouraging social media interactions with the company, highlighting charitable initiatives, and giving consistent employee feedback, just the way Gen Y likes.

While these newer policies don’t exclusively benefit millennials, they do represent a big shift in the way the workplace is run. It’s easy to see how workers of older generations can feel like outsiders, and perhaps even think that their employers are favouring their younger colleagues. But is this really the case, or are employers simply trying to keep up with the times while making their staff happy?

Kirk Baumann, vice president of career services at Enactus, an entrepreneurial community of student, academic and business leaders, noted that employers may not necessarily be treating Gen Y workers differently, but the workplace does evolve and change with each new generation.

“With the adoption of technology, employers continue to move forward,” Baumann said. “Millennials are tied to their smartphones and have always had the internet. The nine-to-five job is starting to shift --- [millennials may] have flex time [and] the option to work wherever they want. The perception [may be that] the new kid is the favourite and gets the new technology, etc.”

“Show millennials that you care about their professional path [by tying] training into a broader career development plan,” Gorman said. “But again, offer this to everyone. Employees of all ages will benefit from a more comprehensive approach to career development, as will the organisation as a whole.”

Integrating different generational groups can also go a long way to help all employees feel like they’re part of the same team. Baumann advised creating cross-generational project teams, and setting millennials up with an older mentor so both parties can learn from one another.

“There are strengths that other generations bring that millennials don’t have and vice versa,” Baumann said. “Make them work together [to] move your staff forward.”

Raggamuffin wrote:Hmmmm, in the UK, re the minimum wage, a person under the age of 21 is paid less than someone who is over 21. If they're under 18 they're paid even less. I would say that this is discrimination, but nobody seems to question it.

Lone Wolf wrote:

THOSE employers foolish enough as to only employ "millenials" are already running into widespread problems of their own making :

* Manufacturers and allied "support service" providers now facing shortages of skillled labourers and process operators ~ largely because they look for "17 year olds with half a dozen relevant tickets and 3 years experience" willing to work 12 hour shifts/60 hour weeks on demand @ $10/hour ~ but no guarantee of work next week !
good for business and still not competitive in global market, so you just made the prefect case for employers voting with their wallet and taking the harder working lower expectation Millennial

* MEANWHILE they laid off all of their experienced "old school" workers last year because veya(not true I'd replace them all with robots ) took over their "hiring and firing" practices..
this simply cannot do as much

as this


* AND around the Retail precinct down the road, many low-wage-/government/Aldi's paying shop owners are blaming the Internet for the sharp dropoff in custom this year ~ pointedly ignoring the fact that their untrained 25 year old "manager" sacked all of the over-35 workers last month; and that the "so last century" principles of 'good customer service', 'the customer is always right [ven when they're wong !]] and 'try to give the customer what they want' walked out the door with them...
Yep the archaic practice of intermediary merchants is Highly inefficient and destine to replaced like the home delivery Milkman and the Door to Door Vacuum Salesman. I believe in the future retail districts will be leased by companies to display their good but they wont actually sell them there (they may have a terminal for you to order from). the supply chain currently has too many steps and most of them can be dropped, they add nothing but unnecessary expense to the product. it is literally a case of using the modern supply chain methods (like Kogan for example) you can sell the exact same product delivered to the home for LESS than the cost of the product in a old fashioned store.

And yes companies are moving away from 'the customer is always right principle' because the customer is a jackass, it is a business decision from much higher than the 25 year old store manager. Customer service cost money, research has shown that the majority of us will choose lower cost over better customer service. Their is always the market for GOOD sales people in the high end stores where people are willing to pay the price for customer service

* AND up to half of those so-called "millenials" and "Y generation dudes" have no idea of courtesy, respect, company 'loyalty', tarining and working their way up the business "ladder" ~ thinking they know it all as soon as they leave school (much like their attituds towards driving..), but thn proving that they really don't have a clue !

True, the fact that companies don't want to give loyalty to the workers any more plus promoting competition amongst employees to get the best instead of get the oldest, it is actually easier to have workers loyal to the Dollar than some make believe company ideals that get dropped as soon as the are inconvenient for the employer. Plus I think it just shows that millennials have a more realistic view of the world, why do we work? to get paid, to live...

And Driving is a pretty weird statement young drivers today have less accident than young drivers in the past. Statistically the worst drivers are those that got heir licenses in the 60's and 70's literally a young drivers is like 3 times less likely to kill themselves on the roads today than they were in the 70's. the total deaths is Lower even though there is more than double the amount of young drivers


JUST personally, I wouldn't have more than 30-40% of a work force/workplace made up of "millenials" and "X and Y generation" workers; (and, as an aside I would keep the number of female workers below 40% in many workplaces as well - in the name and cause of 'work site harmony' and reliability..).

that would basically be out of business quick smart. LOL 60% of your work force is baby boomers? what is it a shopping mall in a retirement home? and How would you find enough customers that still value the inefficiencies of 'old timey salesmen' and will pay the higher prices that having an inefficient work force and business practice entails. Yep the market wants it so bad that Grace brothers and David Jones aren't slowly dying with the baby boomers ... they Invest millions and still struggle to get new customers because they don't understand that If I want a Shirt etc than I want to pay for a Shirt, Not twice the value of the shirt to have some guy to fart around and add nothing of value to my purchase.


IT'S no wonder that so many retail/wholesale, "service" and manufacturing companies are self destructing these days ~ setting themselves up to inevitably fail as soon as they have implemented their nonsensical "ageist" staff hiring practices..      

it is time for baby boomers to hand over the reigns, they have done So much damage to the world left it 10 times worse than when they started they have been the greediest most self serving and destructive generation in Our nations history. You talk about employing them I woudl seriously be taking the vote off them, All their lives they have voted for greed and self interest and Now we need to fix stuff they are STILL voting for their own selfish interests, Its like their generation has made it their mission to destroy the planet they woudl prefer to have their grand children die than get out of the way and let us fix the god damn mess they have made. I mean Notice that it is literally Baby Boomers versus EVERYONE else not content with fucking over their parent generation they proceeded to fuck Gen X then Gen Y and now Gen I, Literally they spent the wealth of 5 generations and they are still expecting Pensions EVEN though they have already ensured they wont exist for the generations they want to pay for their Pension!!! If the War generations were the 'greatest and bravest' in history the baby boomers are the 'most selfish generation' in history.

it's really hard to care about the old guy that cant get a job when they openly say they would deny jobs to the young and women

veya_victaous wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:

THOSE employers foolish enough as to only employ "millenials" are already running into widespread problems of their own making :

* Manufacturers and allied "support service" providers now facing shortages of skillled labourers and process operators ~ largely because they look for "17 year olds with half a dozen relevant tickets and 3 years experience" willing to work 12 hour shifts/60 hour weeks on demand @ $10/hour ~ but no guarantee of work next week !

good for business and still not competitive in global market, so you just made the prefect case for employers voting with their wallet and taking the harder working lower expectation Millennial....

* MEANWHILE they laid off all of their experienced "old school" workers last year because veya (not true I'd replace them all with robots ) took over their "hiring and firing" practices..

* AND around the Retail precinct down the road, many low-wage-/government/Aldi's paying shop owners are blaming the Internet for the sharp dropoff in custom this year ~ pointedly ignoring the fact that their untrained 25 year old "manager" sacked all of the over-35 workers last month; and that the "so last century" principles of 'good customer service', 'the customer is always right [ven when they're wrong !]] and 'try to give the customer what they want' walked out the door with them...

Yep the archaic practice of intermediary merchants is Highly inefficient and destine to replaced like the home delivery Milkman and the Door to Door Vacuum Salesman. I believe in the future retail districts will be leased by companies to display their good but they wont actually sell them there (they may have a terminal for you to order from). the supply chain currently has too many steps and most of them can be dropped, they add nothing but unnecessary expense to the product. it is literally a case of using the modern supply chain....

* AND up to half of those so-called "millenials" and "Y generation dudes" have no idea of courtesy, respect, company 'loyalty', tarining and working their way up the business "ladder" ~ thinking they know it all as soon as they leave school (much like their attituds towards driving..), but thn proving that they really don't have a clue !

True, the fact that companies don't want to give loyalty to the workers any more plus promoting competition amongst employees to get the best instead of get the oldest, it is actually easier to have workers loyal to the Dollar than some make believe company ideals that get dropped as soon as the are inconvenient for the employer....

JUST personally, I wouldn't have more than 30-40% of a work force/workplace made up of "millenials" and "X and Y generation" workers; (and, as an aside I would keep the number of female workers below 40% in many workplaces as well - in the name and cause of 'work site harmony' and reliability..).

that would basically be out of business quick smart....
If I want a Shirt etc than I want to pay for a Shirt, Not twice the value of the shirt to have some guy to fart around and add nothing of value to my purchase.

IT'S no wonder that so many retail/wholesale, "service" and manufacturing companies are self destructing these days ~ setting themselves up to inevitably fail as soon as they have implemented their nonsensical "ageist" staff hiring practices..      

Old school Retailers are going out of business that is true, those that wish to keep Ye'Olden Days alive when Communications and logistics were 'primitive' and allowed intermediaries to make a profit off facilitating a sale or geographic restrictions that limited availability.....

it is time for baby boomers to hand over the reigns, they have done So much damage to the world left it 10 times worse than when they started they have been the greediest most self serving and destructive generation in Our nations history. You talk about employing them I woudl seriously be taking the vote off them......
If the War generations were the 'greatest and bravest' in history the baby boomers are the 'most selfish generation' in history........

FluffyBunny wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Hmmmm, in the UK, re the minimum wage, a person under the age of 21 is paid less than someone who is over 21. If they're under 18 they're paid even less. I would say that this is discrimination, but nobody seems to question it.

It's absurd, once you turn 18 you are an adult and should get the same wage.
Although I was under the impression wages went up when an individual turns 22 not 21.