Los Zetas cartel violence in Mexico

So ... most of the people involved in this were raised as Christians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Mexico

Los Zetas murdered busloads of migrants when they wouldn't work for them. The only reason we know that is one bullet missed the brain of one victim. They were on Highway 101, now called the "Highway of Death" for what happened to them.

"Men were beaten, hacked apart, flung from windows, hanged, and decapitated" in a cartel slaughter just two years ago that claimed 44 lives. Hey ho, it was Los Zetas again. Let's blame their religious beliefs, though.

Six years ago, Los Zetas tossed hand grenades into a crowd of 30,000 celebrating Mexican Independence Day in Morelia, Michoacán.

Let's see y'all start shitting your pants over this and claiming their faith is the problem ...

Hey, why single out Los Zetas? This guy confessed to 800 murders for the Juarez cartel. Did you know, they instituted daily murder quotas to keep up the fear among the public:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/11/cartel-hitman-testifies-to-800-murders-daily-quotas-at-kingpin-trial/

But let's just focus on Muslims. They're obviously the only people committing violence, and after all, the current Pope is just such a nice guy ...

How many of this Christian sect or people of Mexico are creating problems in how many other nations Ben with extremism?
Yes it is a major problem there, one that needs to be dealt with also.
Comparing those of religious extremism or violence elsewhere, is just further backing my view on the problem of religions, political extremism etc.
You are basically saying it is okay because two wrongs make a right, ignoring that both are wrong and need to be an issue the world deals with. At present the greater problem which affects the majority of Muslims themselves is Islamic extremism.

I'm not saying two wrongs make a right, Brasidas. Just saying you need to keep your eyes clear and recognize murderers as equally bad ...

You can't possibly think they wouldn't do the same thing in the U.S. if it weren't for the power of the U.S. government/military. As it stands, they're bold enough to do it next door, and that should be pretty fucking scary.

I do recognise them as equally bad, never claimed otherwise, what I saying it is views held in extreme that are the issue. They may well do the same in the US, but there is nothing calling on them to do this or being at odds with US citizens. With Islamic extremism, this is the case, where there view is much of the world is at war with them, whether Muslim or Non Muslim.
Again both issues need to be addressed, to use one off against the other does not solve either issue.

Right off to work, have a good day Ben

Brasidas wrote:I do recognise them as equally bad, never claimed otherwise, what I saying it is views held in extreme that are the issue. They may well do the same in the US, but there is nothing calling on them to do this or being at odds with US citizens. With Islamic extremism, this is the case, where there view is much of the world is at war with them, whether Muslim or Non Muslim.
Again both issues need to be addressed, to use one off against the other does not solve either issue.

Then maybe you'll stop accusing people here of supporting any of them just because we support the rights and dignity of non-violent people? That's all I'm asking.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Brasidas wrote:I do recognise them as equally bad, never claimed otherwise, what I saying it is views held in extreme that are the issue. They may well do the same in the US, but there is nothing calling on them to do this or being at odds with US citizens. With Islamic extremism, this is the case, where there view is much of the world is at war with them, whether Muslim or Non Muslim.
Again both issues need to be addressed, to use one off against the other does not solve either issue.

Then maybe you'll stop accusing people here of supporting any of them just because we support the rights and dignity of non-violent people? That's all I'm asking.

Oh for goodness sake, okay, you are then ignoring a problem then, a real problem that exists and basing other problems to counter a problem does not deal with a problem but proves you do not understand a problem.

I'm really not ignoring anything -- in fact, I think if you were to try to take your ego out of this, you'd see that. Anyway, I'm just trying to stand up for the peaceful people in the world, and I hope that's evident.

WTF, my ego?
So much for your PM to me then.
Wow.

Oh well at least I know that was a load of garbage.

Laters

Brasidas wrote:WTF, my ego?
So much for your PM to me then.
Wow.

Oh well at least I know that was a load of garbage.

Laters

No, it really wasn't. I wasn't trying to insult you by saying that. I just meant that if you take your personal stake out of the equation, I think you might understand where I'm coming from. Sorry if I didn't communicate that well.

Drugs and money are their religion Ben. Do the Zetas, Sinaloa and other cartels shout 'Jesús es grande' before they commit these awful murders? Nope.

And I also don't see Mexican drug cartels infiltrating all European countries and trying to implement hardline Catholic/Santa la Muerte law. Which shoots down your comparison with jihadists/islamic fundamentalists even more.

The Puzzler wrote:And I also don't see Mexican drug cartels infiltrating all European countries and trying to implement hardline Catholic/Santa la Muerte law. Which shoots down your comparison with jihadists/islamic fundamentalists even more.

They are Infiltrating the American nations, MUCH more effectively than you fear hyped invasion of Europe.
they are the Law them selves and CANT SEE ANY IN EUROPE either, I can see a bunch of RW Neo Nazis, but no European nations with Sharia
I can see the Neo Nazis Cry and wailing in the piss stain pants that the "MOOZLIMS are cumming" but not really much evidence

1 decapitation an You think that Compares to the Z's.... the Zetas and Gulf Cartels would annihilate ISIS.
they commit that sort of crime EVERY DAY at war with each other.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2166484/Mexican-drug-cartels-decapitate-rivals-disturbing-video.html

The video, issued by the Los Zetas (Spanish for “The Zs”) criminal cartel, is designed to strike fear into its opponents, government and other Mexican gangs alike.

It shows four women kneeling in a field, with hands tied behind their backs. They are surrounded by 13 masked and armed men. One of the men asks a woman about their ties to a rival gang, the Gulf Cartel—to which she admits that her brother is a member.

After a few minutes, four men suddenly cut the women’s throats, and after they fall to ground, the helpless victims are decapitated.

Los Zetas’s date back to 1999, when commandos of the Mexican Army’s elite forces deserted and took up employment with the drug-trafficking Gulf Cartel.

In February 2010, Los Zetas broke away from the Gulf Cartel to branch out on their own, and their connections with the Mexican military soon made them the pre-eminent criminal organization in their country—and, as the Mexican invasion of America has continued, into the USA as well.

Los Zetas are now Mexico’s largest drug cartel and are based in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, directly across the border from Laredo, Texas.

This then, is the true face of the Third World colonization invasion which is currently underway in America

The situation has seen over 50,000 people die in Mexico and now the country's army has become involved in the fight against the cartels

Very good points, Veya. And the cartels will be felt within Europe soon enough:

Mexican cartels are seeking to cement themselves as "key players" in Europe's drugs market, according to the European Police Office (Europol).

Europol warned that Mexican groups, now the "global market coordinators" for cocaine trafficking, were expanding to take control of different parts of the supply chain in a bid to increase profits, and moving further into Europe.

In a statement published April 12, Europol highlighted Mexican groups' involvement in human trafficking from northeast Europe to Mexico, and the trafficking of firearms from southeast Europe to South America, as well as their role in the drugs trade.

A small number of violent incidents in Europe have been attributed to Mexican groups, according to the statement.

http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/police-warning-over-mexican-cartel-presence-europe

Maybe when it's in their back yard they'll finally care

The former (incarcerated) leader of the Zetas is a sadistic, almost demonic person:

Victims were found with their hearts cut out, dismembered and hung from bridges, the letter Z carved into their bodies as a calling card. Treviño Morales himself was renowned for favouring a method known as "el guiso" (the stew) in which victims were doused with petrol and burned alive in oil barrels.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/10182371/Profile-the-brutal-cartel-boss-who-took-sadistic-killing-to-new-levels.html