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Las Vegas Anti-Government ‘Sovereign Citizens’ Couple Plotted to Kidnap and Kill Police Officers

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Post by Lurker Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:06 pm

A Las Vegas couple who plotted to kidnap and kill police officers are part of a growing movement whose adherents believe they aren’t subject to laws and follow a complex theory about the secret enslavement of American citizens, authorities say.
The couple spent hundreds of hours developing a plot to attract attention to the movement, a cause known as “sovereign citizens,” which holds that police do not have legitimate power, authorities said.
The two shopped for guns, found a vacant house and rigged it to bind captives to cross beams during interrogation, and they planned to subject officers to their form of a trial for civil rights violations, authorities said.
Authorities have linked the “sovereign citizens” movement to the killing of police officers in the past. After two deputies in Louisiana were killed in a shootout last year, police said some of the seven people arrested had ties to the movement.
And three years ago in Arkansas, a father-son team of adherents to the movement killed two police officers before they themselves were killed in a separate gun battle with authorities.
In Las Vegas, an undercover officer was with the couple and documented their plans, police told reporters Thursday. Las Vegas police Lt. James Seebock characterized it as a domestic terrorism plot.


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Post by Lurker Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:08 pm

These ‘Sovereign Citizens’ nutjobs are crazier and more dangerous than the Tea Party idiots. Fox News has manufactured some really scary subhumans.
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Post by Vintage Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:24 pm

Makes you wonder doesn't it what makes these people this way, considering that so many people in so many scenarios, growing up with so many different influences and yet remain relatively normal, is it nature or nurture or a bad combination of both.

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:13 am

I remember somebody at one of the old places (vague enough?) saying these sovereign citizen nutjobs are the Thomas Jeffersons of our times. We've got some crazy people in this country ...
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Post by veya_victaous Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:24 pm

unfortunately they are somewhat right
the Gov't is not following the consititution
the Police are Still enforcing the gov't Unconstitutional laws
therefore the police have lost all legitamacy when it comes to killing or imprisoning fellow citizens.

a Police badge or a Biker Patch or a Gang tattoo are all exactly the same,
the only thing that give the Police badge legitamacy is that it's bearers are supposed to uphold the consititution.
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Post by veya_victaous Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:31 pm

I'd add they only become the Thomas Jefferson's etc IF they win. if Thomas had lost you may never have heard of him and possibly he would be remembered as a terrorist.

I'd suggest History will say anyone fighting Current US gov't/Corporate Oligarcy is a freedom fighter. OR all freedom will be gone cause the corporate oligarcy won.
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