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Best of luck JD It's never easy being the boss just remember you can please some of the people some of the time but you'll never please all of the people all of the time x

[Guest]

As he feels the same of you an I remember very well the bile you used to say to him and Dean and hugh so do not come across as all squeaky and clean as that is bull, you were all as bad as each other, again what was stated to Durham makes the points to you childs plays

That is an out and out lie but as you are known to tell lies anyway your views don't count for much. And if you can find anyone to support what you say then they will be lying as well.
I've given an example of what was posted at me so jog your memory and give me an example of bile that I have posted at them or anyone else.

It is no lie at all, you gave an example of exactly what one moderator has said to another poster here, again what was said to you is small fry compared to what was stated to him. You have always had some beef with Durham, mainly as he is that much smarter than you on economics and Politics, jealousy does not fit you well Irn. I have no reason to lie as he was once in spats with me years ago, we moved on past this, which is telling that you never did

[Irn Bru]

Ah yes but who's reality ?

The reality is in showing a bit of balance in that if someone is claiming to be a victim then they should make sure that they have not done to someone else what they claim has been done to them.

In Quill's own words...People in Glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

You would agree with that, surely?

Why does a spat between Stephen and Quill that doesn't involve you in any way knot your knickers so much?

People in glass houses? Im sure you agree that to fight fire with fire is most effective?

This started about Quill stating that Sassy was stalking him and I merely added that the same words could be written about Stephen. You were quick to add that what Quill said was sinister so can I ask you why you are getting involved in a spat between Sassy and Quill and also whether you think that Quill's actions were sinister?

Remember it's all about balance so an honest answer please.

[Irn Bru]

As he feels the same of you an I remember very well the bile you used to say to him and Dean and hugh so do not come across as all squeaky and clean as that is bull, you were all as bad as each other, again what was stated to Durham makes the points to you childs plays

That is an out and out lie but as you are known to tell lies anyway your views don't count for much. And if you can find anyone to support what you say then they will be lying as well.
I've given an example of what was posted at me so jog your memory and give me an example of bile that I have posted at them or anyone else.

It is no lie at all, you gave an example of exactly what one moderator has said to another poster here, again what was said to you is small fry compared to what was stated to him. You have always had some beef with Durham, mainly as he is that much smarter than you on economics and Politics, jealousy does not fit you well Irn. I have no reason to lie as he was once in spats with me years ago, we moved on past this, which is telling that you never did

An example of bile I have posted at them Didge. That's all I'm asking for.

Spit it out then.

[Guest]

Why does a spat between Stephen and Quill that doesn't involve you in any way knot your knickers so much?

People in glass houses? Im sure you agree that to fight fire with fire is most effective?

This started about Quill stating that Sassy was stalking him and I merely added that the same words could be written about Stephen. You were quick to add that what Quill said was sinister so can I ask you why you are getting involved in a spat between Sassy and Quill and also whether you think that Quill's actions were sinister?

Remember it's all about balance so an honest answer please.

So you just jumped into something that did not involve you to defend sassy again as per usual.
Clearly she must have been stalking him to be searching his real identity, yet you think Quill is sinister yet say nothing about Sassy.
Talk about keeping a load of crap going for no reason

[Irn Bru]

Why does a spat between Stephen and Quill that doesn't involve you in any way knot your knickers so much?

People in glass houses? Im sure you agree that to fight fire with fire is most effective?

This started about Quill stating that Sassy was stalking him and I merely added that the same words could be written about Stephen. You were quick to add that what Quill said was sinister so can I ask you why you are getting involved in a spat between Sassy and Quill and also whether you think that Quill's actions were sinister?

Remember it's all about balance so an honest answer please.

So you just jumped into something that did not involve you to defend sassy again as per usual.
Clearly she must have been stalking him to be searching his real identity, yet you think Quill is sinister yet say nothing about Sassy.
Talk about keeping a load of crap going for no reason

Where did she reveal his real identity?

And why are you involved?

[Guest]

It is no lie at all, you gave an example of exactly what one moderator has said to another poster here, again what was said to you is small fry compared to what was stated to him. You have always had some beef with Durham, mainly as he is that much smarter than you on economics and Politics, jealousy does not fit you well Irn. I have no reason to lie as he was once in spats with me years ago, we moved on past this, which is telling that you never did

An example of bile I have posted at them Didge. That's all I'm asking for.

Spit it out then.

You can ask away all you like, I remember every well the spats you all had, how you wish to keep denying this is your issue not mine, but it further backs my view up of you

[Guest]

So you just jumped into something that did not involve you to defend sassy again as per usual.
Clearly she must have been stalking him to be searching his real identity, yet you think Quill is sinister yet say nothing about Sassy.
Talk about keeping a load of crap going for no reason

Where did she reveal his real identity?

And why are you involved?

Well where you butt into something which does not involve you I am making my business to do the same.
Are you now denying she was not trying to find out his identity and did find out and then got egg on her face?

[Irn Bru]

It is no lie at all, you gave an example of exactly what one moderator has said to another poster here, again what was said to you is small fry compared to what was stated to him. You have always had some beef with Durham, mainly as he is that much smarter than you on economics and Politics, jealousy does not fit you well Irn. I have no reason to lie as he was once in spats with me years ago, we moved on past this, which is telling that you never did

An example of bile I have posted at them Didge. That's all I'm asking for.

Spit it out then.

You can ask away all you like, I remember every well the spats you all had, how you wish to keep denying this is your issue not mine, but it further backs my view up of you

No examples then? Thought so just a pack of lies.

So if you can't think of any find me someone else that can. Go on.....you'll struggle.

[Irn Bru]

So you just jumped into something that did not involve you to defend sassy again as per usual.
Clearly she must have been stalking him to be searching his real identity, yet you think Quill is sinister yet say nothing about Sassy.
Talk about keeping a load of crap going for no reason

Where did she reveal his real identity?

And why are you involved?

Well where you butt into something which does not involve you I am making my business to do the same.
Are you now denying she was not trying to find out his identity and did find out and then got egg on her face?

Just show me where she revealed his real identity. Quill involves me all the time as part of this posse nonsense or haven't you noticed so I'm not butting in?

[Guest]

Well where you butt into something which does not involve you I am making my business to do the same.
Are you now denying she was not trying to find out his identity and did find out and then got egg on her face?

Just show me where she revealed his real identity. Quill involves me all the time as part of this posse nonsense or haven't you noticed so I'm not butting in?

How can i show you something when the forum does not exist anymore which you know also, showing again how absurd you are, where again, you gloss over the fact she was trying to find out his real identity and again you avoid this, which again is telling proving your poor defense of a liar as she was exposed of being

[Guest]

You can ask away all you like, I remember every well the spats you all had, how you wish to keep denying this is your issue not mine, but it further backs my view up of you

No examples then? Thought so just a pack of lies.

So if you can't think of any find me someone else that can. Go on.....you'll struggle.

It is no lies wee Jock, which again proves the fact you cannot admit to your own failings, I have done when I have been out of order, you though think you are some saint, a poor lefty trait, when they are normally the cause behind many problems

[Irn Bru]

Well where you butt into something which does not involve you I am making my business to do the same.
Are you now denying she was not trying to find out his identity and did find out and then got egg on her face?

Just show me where she revealed his real identity. Quill involves me all the time as part of this posse nonsense or haven't you noticed so I'm not butting in?

How can i show you something when the forum does not exist anymore which you know also, showing again how absurd you are, where again, you gloss over the fact she was trying to find out his real identity and again you avoid this, which again is telling proving your poor defense of a liar as she was exposed of being

You do have a memory don't you so surely you can come up with something or even someone else to support what you say in that I have posted bile and abuse at anyone.

So where did she reveal his true identity. Simple question really.

And do you find Quill's actions in posting information about Stephenmarra to be a bit sinister?

[Guest]

How can i show you something when the forum does not exist anymore which you know also, showing again how absurd you are, where again, you gloss over the fact she was trying to find out his real identity and again you avoid this, which again is telling proving your poor defense of a liar as she was exposed of being

You do have a memory don't you so surely you can come up with something or even someone else to support what you say in that I have posted bile and abuse at anyone.

So where did she reveal his true identity. Simple question really.


And do you find Quill's actions in posting information about Stephenmarra to be a bit sinister?

I am remember you calling him plenty, from cock to wanker, Tory scum etc.

Was she trying to find out his true identity?

Simple question

[Guest]

As to Stephen, how can it be sinister, when Stephen stated it was not his details countless times on here?

[Irn Bru]

How can i show you something when the forum does not exist anymore which you know also, showing again how absurd you are, where again, you gloss over the fact she was trying to find out his real identity and again you avoid this, which again is telling proving your poor defense of a liar as she was exposed of being

You do have a memory don't you so surely you can come up with something or even someone else to support what you say in that I have posted bile and abuse at anyone.

So where did she reveal his true identity. Simple question really.


And do you find Quill's actions in posting information about Stephenmarra to be a bit sinister?

I am remember you calling him plenty, from cock to wanker, Tory scum etc.

Was she trying to find out his true identity?

Simple question

No, you're mistaken. Using the word Cock to describe someone was one of Durham's favourite descriptions of someone. You just got mixed up. So go and find me someone that will support your views that I have hurled abuse and bile at anyone.

Well if she was did she reveal his identity on line? And you didn't answer regarding my question whether you thought Quill's actions were a bit sinister in trying to reveal Stephenmarra's identity?

Remember it's all about balance.

[Irn Bru]

As to Stephen, how can it be sinister, when Stephen stated it was not his details countless times on here?

But Quill is still claiming that he is right or haven't you noticed? It's all a bit sinister isn't it?

[Guest]

I am remember you calling him plenty, from cock to wanker, Tory scum etc.

Was she trying to find out his true identity?

Simple question

No, you're mistaken. Using the word Cock to describe someone was one of Durham's  favourite descriptions of someone. You just got mixed up. So go and find me someone that will support your views that I have hurled abuse and bile at anyone.

Well if she was did she reveal his identity on line? And you didn't answer regarding my question whether you thought Quill's actions were a bit sinister in trying to reveal Stephenmarra's identity?

Remember it's all about balance.

It was yours also and have no need to get anyone else to back this up, I know the facts, if you wish to deny them is your issue not mine, just furthers proves my points about you Irn.
You seem to forget the suicide thread here just one of many where you were complicit with sassy to try to make claims about Quill untill a few posters including me saw through this charade.
You did not answer my question on sassy trying to find out his real identity and I answered yours on stephen, try going to spec savers it may help


So are you denying sassy tried to search his real identity?

[Guest]

As to Stephen, how can it be sinister, when Stephen stated it was not his details countless times on here?

But Quill is still claiming that he is right or haven't you noticed? It's all a bit sinister isn't it?

That is up to him what he believes, where again Stephen denies this, so if the poster denies that this is his identity, how can it be sinister.
Which proves again your claim to not defending sassy is a complete lie, as you have claimed here, because as seen I have asked you to answer why she was trying to reveal his identity and you deflect away from this onto Quill. You see I easily expose you every time Irn

I will ask again, are you denying sassy was trying to find out Quill's identity?

[Irn Bru]

I am remember you calling him plenty, from cock to wanker, Tory scum etc.

Was she trying to find out his true identity?

Simple question

No, you're mistaken. Using the word Cock to describe someone was one of Durham's  favourite descriptions of someone. You just got mixed up. So go and find me someone that will support your views that I have hurled abuse and bile at anyone.

Well if she was did she reveal his identity on line? And you didn't answer regarding my question whether you thought Quill's actions were a bit sinister in trying to reveal Stephenmarra's identity?

Remember it's all about balance.

It was yours also and have no need to get anyone else to back this up, I know the facts, if you wish to deny them is your issue not mine, just furthers proves my points about you Irn.
You seem to forget the suicide thread here just one of many where you were complicit with sassy to try to make claims about Quill untill a few posters including me saw through this charade.
You did not answer my question on sassy trying to find out his real identity and I answered yours on stephen, try going to spec savers it may help


So are you denying sassy tried to search his real identity?

You made a claim and can't back it up that I have hurled abuse at anyone. Proving it is easy as all you have to do is find someone that I have hurled abuse at. You can't can you?

Well if she knew his real identity did she reveal it on line as Quill tried to do with Stephenmarra?

What claims were made about Quill on the suicide thread? And is that the one where the expert that you introduced to support your point of view actually supported the net being installed - as did Quill? Sure it was.

[Guest]

It was yours also and have no need to get anyone else to back this up, I know the facts, if you wish to deny them is your issue not mine, just furthers proves my points about you Irn.
You seem to forget the suicide thread here just one of many where you were complicit with sassy to try to make claims about Quill untill a few posters including me saw through this charade.
You did not answer my question on sassy trying to find out his real identity and I answered yours on stephen, try going to spec savers it may help


So are you denying sassy tried to search his real identity?

You made a claim and can't back it up that I have hurled abuse at anyone. Proving it is easy as all you have to do is find someone that I have hurled abuse at. You can't can you?

Well if she knew his real identity did she reveal it on line as Quill tried to do with Stephenmarra?

What claims were made about Quill on the suicide thread? And is that the one where the expert that you introduced to support your point of view actually supported the net being installed - as did Quill? Sure it was.

It is no claim but a fact, you can keep denying all you like

The suicide thread is still there for all to see where you were both exposed, where you both used suicide victims to start a thread about Quill, how sick and vile is that.

One last chance to answer my question you have avoided in each post as you are getting rather tiresome now, how you avoid this at all costs?

[Irn Bru]

As to Stephen, how can it be sinister, when Stephen stated it was not his details countless times on here?

But Quill is still claiming that he is right or haven't you noticed? It's all a bit sinister isn't it?

That is up to him what he believes, where again Stephen denies this, so if the poster denies that this is his identity, how can it be sinister.
Which proves again your claim to not defending sassy is a complete lie, as you have claimed here, because as seen I have asked you to answer why she was trying to reveal his identity and you deflect away from this onto Quill. You see I easily expose you every time Irn

I will ask again, are you denying sassy was trying to find out Quill's identity?

It's sinister when Quill keeps claiming it's true don't you think?

Well if she did, did she reveal his true identity? That would be the proof that she was wouldn't it?

[Guest]

That is up to him what he believes, where again Stephen denies this, so if the poster denies that this is his identity, how can it be sinister.
Which proves again your claim to not defending sassy is a complete lie, as you have claimed here, because as seen I have asked you to answer why she was trying to reveal his identity and you deflect away from this onto Quill. You see I easily expose you every time Irn

I will ask again, are you denying sassy was trying to find out Quill's identity?

It's sinister when Quill keeps claiming it's true don't you think?

Well if she did, did she reveal his true identity? That would be the proof that she was wouldn't it?

Ha ha, you avoided answering again.

Unbelievable and proves my views on you.

Thanks, you can carry on all by yourself

[Irn Bru]

It was yours also and have no need to get anyone else to back this up, I know the facts, if you wish to deny them is your issue not mine, just furthers proves my points about you Irn.
You seem to forget the suicide thread here just one of many where you were complicit with sassy to try to make claims about Quill untill a few posters including me saw through this charade.
You did not answer my question on sassy trying to find out his real identity and I answered yours on stephen, try going to spec savers it may help


So are you denying sassy tried to search his real identity?

You made a claim and can't back it up that I have hurled abuse at anyone. Proving it is easy as all you have to do is find someone that I have hurled abuse at. You can't can you?

Well if she knew his real identity did she reveal it on line as Quill tried to do with Stephenmarra?

What claims were made about Quill on the suicide thread? And is that the one where the expert that you introduced to support your point of view actually supported the net being installed - as did Quill? Sure it was.

It is no claim but a fact, you can keep denying all you like

The suicide thread is still there for all to see where you were both exposed.

One last chance to answer my question you have avoided in each post as you are getting rather tiresome now, how you avoid this at all costs?

I've answered your questions. And it's true that the suicide thread is still there. Which part would you like to discuss? The part where you introduced your expert or where Quill agreed that the net was the right thing to do.

[Irn Bru]

That is up to him what he believes, where again Stephen denies this, so if the poster denies that this is his identity, how can it be sinister.
Which proves again your claim to not defending sassy is a complete lie, as you have claimed here, because as seen I have asked you to answer why she was trying to reveal his identity and you deflect away from this onto Quill. You see I easily expose you every time Irn

I will ask again, are you denying sassy was trying to find out Quill's identity?

It's sinister when Quill keeps claiming it's true don't you think?

Well if she did, did she reveal his true identity? That would be the proof that she was wouldn't it?

Ha ha, you avoided answering again.

Unbelievable and proves my views on you.

Thanks, you can carry on all by yourself

I answered. So where is the post that his real identity was revealed?

[Guest]

It is no claim but a fact, you can keep denying all you like

The suicide thread is still there for all to see where you were both exposed.

One last chance to answer my question you have avoided in each post as you are getting rather tiresome now, how you avoid this at all costs?

I've answered your questions. And it's true that the suicide thread is still there. Which part would you like to discuss? The part where you introduced your expert or where Quill agreed that the net was the right thing to do.

Incorrect you have avoided them, you say "if she" not she did.

Exposed for lying again!

As to me bashing your knowledge on that thread, which I enjoyed tremendously, and I have great debates with Quill and we can happily disagree, something you could learn from

[Guest]

Ha ha, you avoided answering again.

Unbelievable and proves my views on you.

Thanks, you can carry on all by yourself

I answered. So where is the post that his real identity was revealed?

Lying again, saying if she, is not the same as saying she did, that is avoiding the question, poorly.

As I say, I have exposed you again as seen.

Laters Jock

[Irn Bru]

Ha ha, you avoided answering again.

Unbelievable and proves my views on you.

Thanks, you can carry on all by yourself

I answered. So where is the post that his real identity was revealed?

Lying again, saying if she, is not the same as saying she did, that is avoiding the question, poorly.

As I say, I have exposed you again as seen.

Laters Jock

Nothing confusing about this...


Well if she was did she reveal his identity on line?

Is this going to be another long goodbye?

[Irn Bru]

This has got to be a first in that you actually left when you said you would'

[Original Quill]

Yes, Stephen started it with a personal attack on my background.

God, just to respond I have to correct so much of your post, Irn: Stephen doesn't have a drinking problem; he merely mentioned he changed from beer to wine.  His wife was always posting with Carrot girl.  She had the business, which she talked about constantly.  If it's a crime to mention what someone said of a non inflamatory nature, on a public forum, we are all in trouble...and I'm not even a member of Flap.

Me a victim?  I won...as far as Stephen.  The point it that it was a complete non-issue, which sassy tried to trump up into some wrongdoing.  You are attempting to carry on her torch.  But look how strained your argument is to even do that.  Stephen...drinking problem...pfffft.

Yep, carrot girl and helfer.  Bee...what did he call himself...boss helfer??  Something like that.

Good griefs Quill, you still don’t get do you? Stephenmarra was a member of SF but for some reason you saw fit to try and expose him as someone who had been after you for years so you posted data and information about a person and his family on-line stating that the information related to him. So if you had information that it really was him how did you get that information? What did you do and what methods did you use to investigate him to make the connection that they were indeed the same person? Remember, you were claiming that you were an experienced criminal investigator so mind how you go.

Wow, that's quite a script.  But it's all bad guessing.  I've known Stephen for many more years than you have, but it has nothing to do with why we were both on SpeakFree.  It was coincidence we met on speakFree...but a British site, derived from a big site like Sky, and a guy from Wigan...not exactly long odds.  One reason why I know he is Stephen is I know him much better than anyone from Sky.

How did I come across the information about Stephen...he posted it.  Just chatting.  Like, I know you come from Musselburgh...we chatted about it a couple of months back.  I once had a gf from Musselburgh, remember?  Casual chat...and I listen.  Now, that's a far cry from the massive criminal conspiracy you and sassy have cooked up, eh?  Remember back on October 19th, when SpeakFree started to come apart?  Doesn't your rant sound a lot like sassy back then?

You keep making stuff up, Irn.  Believe me, I have never been a criminal investigator.  I have been a state prosecutor.  I even corrected you about this a few days ago; are you sure you're not just being disingenuous about all this?

And even though Stehenmarra is not here at the moment he is still a current member of this forum yet you still see fit to repeat these claims on here and all the time you are claiming you are nothing other than a victim. You’re more than that – a lot more.
And your previous statement was ‘he started a thread about his drinking habits’ but now it’s suddenly downgraded to merely just mentioning it. Quite different isn’t it?

You are really reaching Irn.  Yes, he started a thread about his drinking habits; he switched his habit from beer to wine.  I can tell you, as a lawyer you have to learn to listen.  You project too much of your own thoughts into what you hear.  You assume too much and jump to too many conclusions.

But if all this still rankles with you after 10 years or so and you are a victim then the best thing you can do is to go through due legal process by arranging for an extradition request to be submitted through the proper channels to our Home Secretary, Theresa May, giving her all the evidence you have. Include all the details about the Female First forum, SF and Newsfix as well as all the information you have about both Stephens’, Sassy and possible potential witnesses naming in particular Carrotgirl, Helfer, Judge, Lovedust, Beekeeper and any others you can think of. Include all your evidence from the Drinking Habit thread and the one LD mentioned about the 'girly girls in peru' thread because that will help a lot.

I’m sure that once the Home Secretary reviews the extradition request and all the damning evidence that you have collected  she will immediately rubber stamp it and order that Sassy (a woman near 70 years old and a British old age pensioner in merry old  England)  be arrested and removed from her place of abode by force if necessary under the order of the Home Office by British police. She will then be taken to LHR airport where she will be surrendered to US federal agents who will ‘cuff her’ and escort her aboard an American Airlines transatlantic flight and for security reasons be seated separately in the rear row between two agents for the long flight to the US where she will be incarcerated awaiting trial.

You’ll be famous Quill, you really, really will be famous - even world famous. And your fellow directors and colleagues in the legal profession on these committees that you sit on will applaud you for uncovering and bringing to justice this network of people who have been out to get you.

Lol.  Did you write all that on one beer?

It’s in the past, Irn.  I won, remember?  You keep dredging up old sheit from foreign websites, you can’t even remember what was said, and all for carrying on this sassy-inspired nonsense.  We all miss sassy, but she’s no longer here Irn.  Leave her arguments in the gutter, where they belong.

This is NewsFix…come join us.

[Original Quill]

Well where you butt into something which does not involve you I am making my business to do the same.
Are you now denying she was not trying to find out his identity and did find out and then got egg on her face?

Just show me where she revealed his real identity. Quill involves me all the time as part of this posse nonsense or haven't you noticed so I'm not butting in?

Well, what are you doing right now, posse member? You've carried this nonsense on for three pages.

You want an example where sassy revealed my identity? It was last November...you never saw it because Vic and TTS were quick enough to remove it...bless their souls. So don't call Didge out just because you weren't quick enough.

What do you think the big spat was about that closed down SpeakFree? Sassy found a photo with my name on it, and tried to publicly post it and dox me. From there on, it was all PM so you never heard about the argument. But it was there.

[Original Quill]

Wow...I only just fully read the last few posts on this thread.

You are really drunk, aren't you Irn Bru?  Your phrasing is just like someone drunk...short phrases, uttered with the clarity of someone pushing with the diaphragm, but failing to engage that oh-so-thick tip of the tongue.    I can practically feel the slurring and spitting.

Don't worry.  You're among friends.  Get to bed and sleep it off.  

[Lone Wolf]

A COUPLE of overriding facts here, folks :

DURING attacks on Nems and FTL at various times this year, after sassy's nastiness and poor character was ably pointed out in return, sassy had repeatedly confirmed that she had been attempting to find out both mine and Quill's true identities, addresses and any compromising rumours, starting only a few weeks after our joining SF.

AFTER sassy's messes were cleaned up in timely fashion on SF, let's not forget Stephen' jumping ship in quick order, soon after..

SUSPECT and guilt-ridden behaviours on both their parts...

[Raggamuffin]

I don't often agree with Sassy, and I've had plenty of arguments with her, but it's not really fair to accuse her when she's no longer a member.

[Andy]

All this talk about Durham, does he still post on IAF, and is his partner in crime Hugh still banned.? Just before my ban, it seemed the only 2 posters spamming the place were Kaka with endless anti Muslim threads and BA9. Even Moletrousers Drinky and Sawyer had all but vanished.

[Lone Wolf]

I don't often agree with Sassy, and I've had plenty of arguments with her, but it's not really fair to accuse her when she's no longer a member.

  SUCH niceties never stopped Sassy and Stephen from attacking, harassing and stalikng their foes on here, no provocation or reasons ever considered necessary on their part...

AND THEN they had the bold-faced audacity as to attempt and portray their targets as the aggressors ~ claiming that we had picked on them, despite the fact that they couldn't point to any evidence against us ~ on the contrary, the evidence against them is still on here !

AND THEN there's Sassy's true racist and conservative leanings as expressed through her attack threads centered on such subjects as Australian Aborigines, Israel, San Francisco ~ some people here still like to portray Sassy as some kind of "left-leaning social activist"; but if she were to ever visit the likes of Oz or the US West Coast the total falseness of her continual lies would be exposed.

SASSY simply doesn't have what it takes "to cut the mustard" in that direction..  

[Original Quill]

I don't often agree with Sassy, and I've had plenty of arguments with her, but it's not really fair to accuse her when she's no longer a member.

Yes, I think the only person who is carrying on the 'good fight' on sassy's behalf is Irn.  Anytime you see someone raise Stephen, you know sassy has just lit the fire...and she's right back in the wings waiting to see what happens.  

But I see Irn has stopped today, so let's hope that fire has burned out.

[Irn Bru]

Wow, that's quite a script.  But it's all bad guessing.  I've known Stephen for many more years than you have, but it has nothing to do with why we were both on SpeakFree.  It was coincidence we met on speakFree...but a British site, derived from a big site like Sky, and a guy from Wigan...not exactly long odds.  One reason why I know he is Stephen is I know him much better than anyone from Sky.

How did I come across the information about Stephen...he posted it.  Just chatting.  Like, I know you come from Musselburgh...we chatted about it a couple of months back.  I once had a gf from Musselburgh, remember?  Casual chat...and I listen.  Now, that's a far cry from the massive criminal conspiracy you and sassy have cooked up, eh?  Remember back on October 19th, when SpeakFree started to come apart?  Doesn't your rant sound a lot like sassy back then?

You keep making stuff up, Irn.  Believe me, I have never been a criminal investigator.  I have been a state prosecutor.  I even corrected you about this a few days ago; are you sure you're not just being disingenuous about all this?

You obviously made a mistake with him just like you have made with me, Stephen said he was Cumbria (check his profile) and Wigan is nowhere near Cumbria.  All the discussions you were having on Google maps obviously didn’t add to your knowledge of the geography of the UK then did it?  Barry Gibb had a gf from Musselburgh as well. He married her but I suppose you never met either of them.

Pay attention Quill. I’m not from Musselburgh and never have been. Musselburgh is in East Lothian and almost everyone on here probably knows I’m from Midlothian because I’ve said it often enough

And if you were just chatting what was it that he did to you that got you all worked up that you have been going on about it for years?

I think the massive criminal conspiracy is down to you Quill and it shows. lol

You are really reaching Irn.  Yes, he started a thread about his drinking habits; he switched his habit from beer to wine.  I can tell you, as a lawyer you have to learn to listen.  You project too much of your own thoughts into what you hear.  You assume too much and jump to too many conclusions.

Well given that I’m not from Musselburgh and Stephen is not from Wigan then I think that assuming too much and jumping to conclusions is very much more part of your make up than it is of mine.

And first it was starting a thread about his drinking habits later downgraded to merely mentioning his drinking habits and now upgraded again to starting a thread about his drinking habits it’s all a bit of a mystery why it concerns you enough to even mention it in the first place.

Lol.  Did you write all that on one beer?

It’s in the past, Irn.  I won, remember?  You keep dredging up old sheit from foreign websites, you can’t even remember what was said, and all for carrying on this sassy-inspired nonsense.  We all miss sassy, but she’s no longer here Irn.  Leave her arguments in the gutter, where they belong.

This is NewsFix…come join us.

Well given all your talk about criminal activities and banging on about it all endlessly I was just taking you through a light-hearted commentary on how it could all pan out if you followed it through to its ultimate conclusion but you have taken it badly and got very angry. It’s not good to answer when you are angry because the response is usually uncontrolled keyboard banging producing nothing much really.

And what did you win and which foreign websites did I dredge stuff up from??
And if it’s in the past and you want it left there then don’t keep bringing it up because if you look back this thread never got beyond page 1 before you brought it all up. Yes, it was you Quill. You brought it up on page 1 so pay  attention by taking your own advice and not do it.

[Irn Bru]

Well where you butt into something which does not involve you I am making my business to do the same.
Are you now denying she was not trying to find out his identity and did find out and then got egg on her face?

Just show me where she revealed his real identity. Quill involves me all the time as part of this posse nonsense or haven't you noticed so I'm not butting in?

Well, what are you doing right now, posse member?  You've carried this nonsense on for three pages.

You want an example where sassy revealed my identity?  It was last November...you never saw it because Vic and TTS were quick enough to remove it...bless their souls.  So don't call Didge out just because you weren't quick enough.

What do you think the big spat was about that closed down SpeakFree?  Sassy found a photo with my name on it, and tried to publicly post it and dox me.  From there on, it was all PM so you never heard about the argument.  But it was there.

No, you brought it up to start with on page one and I’m responding to that but you just keep adding more and more as you go along. If you object to it being discussed then don’t start discussing it.
And she never posted a photo with your name on it on SF. I have asked TTS about that claim and his answer confirms that she didn’t.

[Irn Bru]

Wow...I only just fully read the last few posts on this thread.

You are really drunk, aren't you Irn Bru?  Your phrasing is just like someone drunk...short phrases, uttered with the clarity of someone pushing with the diaphragm, but failing to engage that oh-so-thick tip of the tongue.    I can practically feel the slurring and spitting.

Don't worry.  You're among friends.  Get to bed and sleep it off.  

You're obviously concerned about drinking habits and I can assure you I have no problem in that respect.

And remember what I said earlier about responding when angry? Well what you have just written is an example of what can come out when anger grips.. The result is that you have just set the bar down to a level that is more suited to you than it is to me so I can assure you that I won’t be taking the bait by responding in kind – I’m not that low.

[Irn Bru]

I don't often agree with Sassy, and I've had plenty of arguments with her, but it's not really fair to accuse her when she's no longer a member.

Yes, I think the only person who is carrying on the 'good fight' on sassy's behalf is Irn.  Anytime you see someone raise Stephen, you know sassy has just lit the fire...and she's right back in the wings waiting to see what happens.  

But I see Irn has stopped today, so let's hope that fire has burned out.

Quill, see here you go again. You want this dropped but on your terms where you are just a victim and you are trying to convince people that you have done nothing wrong when the record shows that you have when you were trying to reveal the identity of another member on SF and if that wasn’t enough here you are doing it here on NF as well.

And just so that you know, I was actually out over the weekend at the football on Saturday followed in the evening with the missus at the wonderful Mellville Castle Hotel where we had a really nice time. I’m sorry if I kept you waiting but I got back here as soon as I could so I apologies if you waited up for me.

http://melvillecastle.com/

[Original Quill]

Yes, I think the only person who is carrying on the 'good fight' on sassy's behalf is Irn.  Anytime you see someone raise Stephen, you know sassy has just lit the fire...and she's right back in the wings waiting to see what happens.  

But I see Irn has stopped today, so let's hope that fire has burned out.

Quill, see here you go again. You want this dropped but on your terms where you are just a victim and you are trying to convince people that you have done nothing wrong when the record shows that you have when you were trying to reveal the identity of another member on SF and if that wasn’t enough here you are doing it here on NF as well.  

And just so that you know, I was actually out over the weekend at the football on Saturday followed in the evening with the missus at the wonderful Mellville Castle Hotel where we had a really nice time. I’m sorry if I kept you waiting but I got back here as soon as I could so I apologies if you waited up for me.

http://melvillecastle.com/

So drop it, Irn.  I think by now most people have made up their own minds about the matter.

Nothing you say can add or detract at this point.

Melville Castle Hotel looks wonderful. I would stay there if I had the opportunity, myself. No worries...you didn't inconvenience me in any way.

[Miffs]

Well, what are you doing right now, posse member?  You've carried this nonsense on for three pages.

You want an example where sassy revealed my identity?  It was last November...you never saw it because Vic and TTS were quick enough to remove it...bless their souls.  So don't call Didge out just because you weren't quick enough.

What do you think the big spat was about that closed down SpeakFree?  Sassy found a photo with my name on it, and tried to publicly post it and dox me.  From there on, it was all PM so you never heard about the argument.  But it was there.

No, you brought it up to start with on page one and I’m responding to that but you just keep adding more and more as you go along. If you object to it being discussed then don’t start discussing it.
And she never posted a photo with your name on it on SF. I have asked TTS about that claim and his answer confirms that she didn’t.

Go and have a look what she has posted about Quill on JDs forum and stop making an exhibition of yourself.
In answer to your question, no I don't find Quills actions in repeating back what been posted (as he said was the case with Stephens info) sinister.

Straight question

Do you find trying to trace people in reality, to the extent of emailing previous employers and associations they belong to, for instance the Australian Bee Keepers Association, sinister?


Also I have told Quill I think he is wrong about Stephenmarra and he was wrong to post what he did.
Have you ever told Sassy her conduct is wrong? Ever ? On any subject?
She did post a picture on SF of a man with the same name as Quill trying to infer its him just as she is doing now.
We all await your unequivocal condemnation of that, I suspect we shall get the usual pedantry and spin.

[David]

Hmmm indeed Miffs indeed.

I also find bizarre is that JD and VOD have patched up lol

[Lone Wolf]

BETTING Pool is still open, re: how long ago (or recently) sassy's latest OH/boyfriend walked out on her...

ANY takers ?  

[Cass]

lone wolf that is just downright nasty. wind your neck in.

all of you need to stop. this crap happened on other forums not here. stop dragging it up or take it to PM, or join other forums and have at it.

thanks

[veya_victaous]

lone wolf that is just downright nasty. wind your neck in.

all of you need to stop. this crap happened on other forums not here. stop dragging it up or take it to PM, or join other forums and have at it.

thanks

+1000000000

[Lone Wolf]

lone wolf that is just downright nasty. wind your neck in.

all of you need to stop. this crap happened on other forums not here. stop dragging it up or take it to PM, or join other forums and have at it.

thanks

I'LL put you down for February then shall I, Cass ?

Next..

[Raggamuffin]

lone wolf that is just downright nasty. wind your neck in.

all of you need to stop. this crap happened on other forums not here. stop dragging it up or take it to PM, or join other forums and have at it.

thanks

+1000000000

You're admin so why didn't you stop it?

[Irn Bru]

Well, what are you doing right now, posse member?  You've carried this nonsense on for three pages.

You want an example where sassy revealed my identity?  It was last November...you never saw it because Vic and TTS were quick enough to remove it...bless their souls.  So don't call Didge out just because you weren't quick enough.

What do you think the big spat was about that closed down SpeakFree?  Sassy found a photo with my name on it, and tried to publicly post it and dox me.  From there on, it was all PM so you never heard about the argument.  But it was there.

No, you brought it up to start with on page one and I’m responding to that but you just keep adding more and more as you go along. If you object to it being discussed then don’t start discussing it.
And she never posted a photo with your name on it on SF. I have asked TTS about that claim and his answer confirms that she didn’t.

Go and have a look what she has posted about Quill on JDs forum and stop making an exhibition of yourself.
In answer to your question, no I don't find Quills actions in repeating back what been posted (as he said was the case with Stephens info) sinister.

Straight question

Do you find trying to trace people in reality, to the extent of emailing previous employers and associations they belong to, for instance the Australian Bee Keepers Association,  sinister?


Also I have told Quill I think he is wrong about Stephenmarra and he was wrong to post what he did.
Have you ever told Sassy her conduct is wrong? Ever ? On any subject?
She did post a picture on SF of a man with the same name as Quill trying to infer its him just as she is doing now.
We all await your unequivocal condemnation of that, I suspect we shall get the usual pedantry and spin.

Well it might have been a good idea to introduce yourself and state what your interests are in all this and how you know so much about what went on back on SF. Never mind though, I’ve worked it out.

And if you don’t believe his actions were sinister then I guess you have worked out how he managed to make the connection that Stephenmarra was this other guy named Stephen and the reason why he saw fit to publish details of who he really was, who his wife was and where they lived then? Go on then – tell us why he did that.

I don’t know anything about emailing former employers or any associations in an attempt to trace who someone really was. Were you a recipient of these emails or copied in on any of them? What did they actually say?

You say Quill is wrong but I never saw any of that up until now. And you say it only a few posts after giving him the nod on his post bringing all this back up again. I really would expect to see a bit of balance in all this in that if someone is going to hounded all over the place for allegedly revealing the details of someone’s identity then I would expect anyone else who has done worse to be pursued with equal vigour but did I see that? Not one bit did I see it. Not one mention of it being wrong only encouragement to keep it going just like what has happened here on this very thread.

I read on Saturday what was posted elsewhere before I went out and what I read was pretty much a rerun what’s been said before and no personal details of a person, their family or where they actually lived were posted anywhere. What I read was obviously a reaction to what was being said on here and the recent post by Lone Wolf is just another lurid example of what’s been going on for a long time now. Have you ever condemned any of that?

All this stuff about Stephen and the video happened on SF and that’s where it should have been left to die and not be continually brought up on here time and time again.

And if you had noticed in the post immediately prior to yours Quill has asked for it to be dropped but you ignored that presumably just to keep it all going. I am quite happy that we both see that it should be dropped and I wouldn’t have posted on here again after that and I would suggest you should consider doing the same.
Quill wants it dropped and I agree that all this should be consigned to history and not be brought up time and time again so I’m going to ask Ben to lock this thread but not before you have been back on line so it might be a good idea to take the chance and get your response in quickly before he does.

[Miffs]

Ahh pedantry
You worked it out ? You is well clever.
Irn you left the remains of your credibility on the golden gate thread
::dedhrs::

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