Israel and Hamas said to be 'seriously considering' Egyptian cease-fire plan

Egypt presented a cease-fire plan Monday to end a week of heavy fighting between Israel and Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip that has left at least 185 people dead, and both sides said they were seriously considering the proposal.

The late-night offer by Egypt marked the first sign of a breakthrough in international efforts to end the conflict.

Hamas' top leader in Gaza confirmed there was "diplomatic movement," while Israel's policy-making Security Cabinet was set to discuss the proposal early Tuesday. Arab foreign ministers discussed the plan Monday night at an emergency meeting in Cairo, and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry was expected in the region Tuesday.

Egypt's Foreign Ministry announced the three-step plan starting at 9 a.m. (0600 GMT, 2 a.m. EDT) with a cease-fire to go into effect within 12 hours of "unconditional acceptance" by the two sides. That would be followed by the opening of Gaza's border crossings and talks in Cairo between the sides within two days, according to the statement.

smelly_bandit wrote:yes didge i know he is educated, me and mentor educated him

he even admits it was our superior knowledge of Islam that FORCED him to study his own religion

smelly_bandit wrote:yes didge thats precisely the point

he needed to "look further into his own religion" in order to prepare an argument

if he knew more than we did why did he need to "look further into his own religion"

i see the smilies are out in force already

smelly_bandit wrote:how has that become the point??

fuzzmuck as you say needed to investigate his own religion in reaction to what me and mentor were saying

when you need to investigate what another person is saying about a topic you're supposed to be knowledgeable about,, it shows a level of obliviousness and ignorance on YOUR behalf

lol

i bet its like a big cock in your arse, knowing that a non Muslim knows more about islam than you do

Phildidge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:For Didge's education:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Tuesday that Hamas' rejection of the cease fire "gives Israel full legitimacy to expand the operation to protect our people."

"We agreed to the Egyptian proposal in order to give an opportunity for the demilitarization of the (Gaza) Strip - from missiles, from rockets and from tunnels - through diplomatic means," he told reporters during an earlier press conference with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

(How can Hamas expect Gaza to be left un-defended?)

"But if Hamas does not accept the ceasefire proposal, as would now seem to be the case, Israel would have all international legitimacy to broaden the military operation to achieve the required quiet."

(I.e. If they don't accept demilitarisation,  Israel has an excuse to invade Gaza)

Hamas rejected the Egyptian proposal, saying Cairo did not consult the group over the deal. The organization's armed wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, rejected the offer completely, saying it was "a surrender" and "wasn't worth the ink it was written with."


Hamas spokesman Fauzi Barhum said that the Egyptian ceasefire offer was unacceptable. "A ceasefire without an agreement is out of the question. During a war, you don't hold your fire and only then start negotiating," he said.

Hamas official Osama Hamdan added the Egyptian initiative was a "joke."

"We did not receive this declared paper from the Egyptians ... which means it's an initiative for the media. It's not a political initiative," he told CNN.

The initiative was meant to "push the Palestinians into a corner and aid the Israelis."

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This wasn't a ceasefire, it was a surrender.

Now if that isn't enough, I 'll try to find video clips of Israeli officials admitting Hamas wasn't directly consulted.

Where is your link?


Again you fail to answer my questions, and now claim it is a surrender, that is comical, what it was about was a ceasefire, not a surrender, as there is loads of war of words going on, all for the media. Then once there is a ceasefire there is then negotiations, which as seen Hamas did not wish to comply to as stated, that are extremists like some Zionists,which clearly you thus back extremists then.


As seem already Hamas are telling porkies pies as seen by some of their other officials, who you I guess ignored from my last post showing clearly they have been in talks as why is there conditions on their part and conditions being asked of Israel? Proving Hamas does not give one shit about the Palestinian people, it cares more about its own pride and keeping its power at the cost of many lives,


The armed wing of Hamas, the Izz al-Din Qassam Brigades, dismissed the initiative, saying its battle with Israel would "increase in ferocity and intensity".

Under the terms of the Egyptian initiative, the ceasefire should have been followed by a series of meetings in Cairo with high-level delegations from the two sides.

One of the key desires of Hamas would be the easing of a blockade enforced by Israel since 2007, causing severe economic hardship.

Moussa Abu Marzouk, a top Hamas official, said no final decision had been taken on the Egyptian initiative.

But he told Lebanese TV: "The siege on Gaza must be broken and the people of Gaza should live freely like other people of the world."

Another Hamas leader in Gaza, Mushir al-Masri, told Associated Press that mediators and international guarantees would be needed for any deal to work.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28320901

DOH

Try again

smelly_bandit wrote:lol didge lol

spanked me many times??? like the time on sky when you said that islam taught polytheism and had a pantheon of gods as part of its doctrine?? and then made a public apology about being wrong??

dont deny it now

or was it the time you spanked me when you got confused between the sunni Muslims and the sunnah of muhhamad and started going on about "sunnah Muslims" and then blames it on a typo

with every other sentence of yours being "im spanking you smelly"i get confused about exactly which time are you talking about??

Phildidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:didge asking for a link??

that's rich

Lol I provide links and not spam the site with C&P as you do because you cannot speak for yourself, you have to have others do it for you ha ha

The funniest here is as seen my point is right you on one side, others on the other arguing the same crap as has been argued for decades with no solution, which is why your argument and Zack's both fall flat and always will!

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Phildidge wrote:


Lol I provide links and not spam the site with C&P as you do because you cannot speak for yourself, you have to have others do it for you ha ha

The funniest here is as seen my point is right you on one side, others on the other arguing the same crap as has been argued for decades with no solution, which is why your argument and Zack's both fall flat and always will!

Bit of a hypocrite then, are you lumping in me in wth Smelly? Lol. Like I said, calm down.  

smelly_bandit wrote:

Phildidge wrote:


Lol I provide links and not spam the site with C&P as you do because you cannot speak for yourself, you have to have others do it for you ha ha

The funniest here is as seen my point is right you on one side, others on the other arguing the same crap as has been argued for decades with no solution, which is why your argument and Zack's both fall flat and always will!

"The funniest here is as seen my point is right you on one side, others on the other arguing the same crap as has been argued for decades with no solution, which is why your argument and Zack's both fall flat and always will!"

@fuzzmuck

do you have any idea what this retard is trying to say??? you speaky mong quite well, care to translate this pigeon english

smelly_bandit wrote:im the only one who thinks allah exists??

you haven't read a thing ive ever said have you sweety??
 :/pwn://: 

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Phildidge wrote:


Lol I provide links and not spam the site with C&P as you do because you cannot speak for yourself, you have to have others do it for you ha ha

The funniest here is as seen my point is right you on one side, others on the other arguing the same crap as has been argued for decades with no solution, which is why your argument and Zack's both fall flat and always will!

Bit of a hypocrite then, are you lumping in me in wth Smelly? Lol. Like I said, calm down.  

Phildidge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Bit of a hypocrite then, are you lumping in me in wth Smelly? Lol. Like I said, calm down.  

I am a hypocrite at times and have no problem with that buddy, it shows I am honest, but you are backing an extremist organisation, where i denounce both Hamas and the Zionist extremists.
lol never mind chap your deflection attempts are getting worse by the minute!

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

"The funniest here is as seen my point is right you on one side, others on the other arguing the same crap as has been argued for decades with no solution, which is why your argument and Zack's both fall flat and always will!"

@fuzzmuck

do you have any idea what this retard is trying to say??? you speaky mong quite well, care to translate this pigeon english

He's trying a childish tactic. If you read the earlier posts, I inadvertently said you and Phil agree on the same point. And said both of you should start a marriage guidance business.

He got pissed of and lost his temper. I actually said sorry but I guess he thinks lumping me in with you is a good debating tactic. You should feel flattered.  

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Phildidge wrote:



I am a hypocrite at times and have no problem with that buddy, it shows I am honest, but you are backing an extremist organisation, where i denounce both Hamas and the Zionist extremists.
lol never mind chap your deflection attempts are getting worse by the minute!

A hypocrite is someone who says one thing but does another. These are the people you can never trust. And I despise.

Hypocrites by definition are not honest.

Phildidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:im the only one who thinks allah exists??

you haven't read a thing ive ever said have you sweety??
 :/pwn://: 

Oh hun, you are so wound up ha ha, you as a Christian once told me you thought he existed, which was hilarious, given the fact you follow a monotheistic faith yourself!

smelly_bandit wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Bit of a hypocrite then, are you lumping in me in wth Smelly? Lol. Like I said, calm down.  

fuzzmuck

although we dont agree on much i think we can agree that your biggest fan is a complete fuckwit

have you been watching how he fawns all over you??

if you aren't careful he will have your trousers down and cock in mouth before you can say "allahu akbar"

smelly_bandit wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Bit of a hypocrite then, are you lumping in me in wth Smelly? Lol. Like I said, calm down.  

fuzzmuck

although we dont agree on much i think we can agree that your biggest fan is a complete fuckwit

have you been watching how he fawns all over you??

if you aren't careful he will have your trousers down and cock in mouth before you can say "allahu akbar"

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

"The funniest here is as seen my point is right you on one side, others on the other arguing the same crap as has been argued for decades with no solution, which is why your argument and Zack's both fall flat and always will!"

@fuzzmuck

do you have any idea what this retard is trying to say??? you speaky mong quite well, care to translate this pigeon english

He's trying a childish tactic. If you read the earlier posts, I inadvertently said you and Phil agree on the same point. And said both of you should start a marriage guidance business.

He got pissed of and lost his temper. I actually said sorry but I guess he thinks lumping me in with you is a good debating tactic. You should feel flattered.  

smelly_bandit wrote:

Phildidge wrote:


Oh hun, you are so wound up ha ha, you as a Christian once told me you thought he existed, which was hilarious, given the fact you follow a monotheistic faith yourself!

didge i think you are confused

my views on allah not existing are well published and documented, perhaps you were confusing my beliefs with someone else s

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

fuzzmuck

although we dont agree on much i think we can agree that your biggest fan is a complete fuckwit

have you been watching how he fawns all over you??

if you aren't careful he will have your trousers down and cock in mouth before you can say "allahu akbar"

Don't be jealous.

Phildidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

fuzzmuck

although we dont agree on much i think we can agree that your biggest fan is a complete fuckwit

have you been watching how he fawns all over you??

if you aren't careful he will have your trousers down and cock in mouth before you can say "allahu akbar"

lol we may have a a cure for extremism, one Hamas supporter and one Zionist joining ranks, because I have them running scared, how good am I?

lol

Phildidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

didge i think you are confused

my views on allah not existing are well published and documented, perhaps you were confusing my beliefs with someone else s

Hilarious, so you thus are not a Christian then, being as it is a belief of one deity. lol
So what is this faith you follow that has multiple deities?

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Phildidge wrote:



lol we may have a a cure for extremism, one Hamas supporter and one Zionist joining ranks, because I have them running scared, how good am I?

lol

Lol! I told you Smelly.

You're pathetic Didge. I even apologised to you. Which proves what kind of person you truly are.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Phildidge wrote:



lol we may have a a cure for extremism, one Hamas supporter and one Zionist joining ranks, because I have them running scared, how good am I?

lol

Lol! I told you Smelly.

You're pathetic Didge. I even apologised to you. Which proves what kind of person you truly are.

smelly_bandit wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Lol! I told you Smelly.

You're pathetic Didge. I even apologised to you. Which proves what kind of person you truly are.

i dont think didge understands that he cannot argue against a "Zionist" and a "hamas supporter" using the same argument

Phildidge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Lol! I told you Smelly.

You're pathetic Didge. I even apologised to you. Which proves what kind of person you truly are.

I am many things, I am also very honest, as humans are not perfect hence why you run away from difficult questions like if you have ever been hypocritical.

So you can call me all you like, it just keeps showing how cowardly you act on the debate! 

To me this is just banter and fun with you, never knew you took it so serious  ha ha!

smelly_bandit wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Lol! I told you Smelly.

You're pathetic Didge. I even apologised to you. Which proves what kind of person you truly are.

i dont think didge understands that he cannot argue against a "Zionist" and a "hamas supporter" using the same argument

Phildidge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Lol! I told you Smelly.

You're pathetic Didge. I even apologised to you. Which proves what kind of person you truly are.

I am many things, I am also very honest, as humans are not perfect hence why you run away from difficult questions like if you have ever been hypocritical.

So you can call me all you like, it just keeps showing how cowardly you act on the debate! 

To me this is just banter and fun with you, never knew you took it so serious  ha ha!

Phildidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

i dont think didge understands that he cannot argue against a "Zionist" and a "hamas supporter" using the same argument

He can and has proven he can, you just never listen, because you both use the same argument of rights, and blame, here mine is peace and reconciliation!

Shame you both fail to understand that, you are both driven by hate arguments, mainly as you are both religious, it speaks volumes!

smelly_bandit wrote:

Phildidge wrote:



I am many things, I am also very honest, as humans are not perfect hence why you run away from difficult questions like if you have ever been hypocritical.

So you can call me all you like, it just keeps showing how cowardly you act on the debate! 

To me this is just banter and fun with you, never knew you took it so serious  ha ha!

hey honest john

did you or did you not confuse the sunnis with the sunnah??

lets see how honest you are

smelly_bandit wrote:

Phildidge wrote:


He can and has proven he can, you just never listen, because you both use the same argument of rights, and blame, here mine is peace and reconciliation!

Shame you both fail to understand that, you are both driven by hate arguments, mainly as you are both religious, it speaks volumes!

its not a case of not listening its a case of me not understanding your pigeon English didge

smelly_bandit wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Lol! I told you Smelly.

You're pathetic Didge. I even apologised to you. Which proves what kind of person you truly are.

i dont think didge understands that he cannot argue against a "Zionist" and a "hamas supporter" using the same argument

SEXY MAMA wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

i dont think didge understands that he cannot argue against a "Zionist" and a "hamas supporter" using the same argument

Im glad you are so upfront about your hatred Smelly

She must have broken your heart pretty badly!

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Phildidge wrote:



I am many things, I am also very honest, as humans are not perfect hence why you run away from difficult questions like if you have ever been hypocritical.

So you can call me all you like, it just keeps showing how cowardly you act on the debate! 

To me this is just banter and fun with you, never knew you took it so serious  ha ha!

Lol! You're the own who got upset bruv. Let's not forget that.

and since when are hypocrites honest? Lol!

SEXY MAMA wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

i dont think didge understands that he cannot argue against a "Zionist" and a "hamas supporter" using the same argument

Im glad you are so upfront about your hatred Smelly

She must have broken your heart pretty badly!

Phildidge wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

its not a case of not listening its a case of me not understanding your pigeon English didge

You me when you say thinks like "me and Mentor" lol

Not "Mentor and !"

Hey I am not the one who needs spell check hun

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

i dont think didge understands that he cannot argue against a "Zionist" and a "hamas supporter" using the same argument

The first smart thing I've heard you say.   

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

smelly_bandit wrote:

i dont think didge understands that he cannot argue against a "Zionist" and a "hamas supporter" using the same argument

The first smart thing I've heard you say.   

Phildidge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

The first smart thing I've heard you say.   

Thank you for proving my point, both of you need to feed each others cause with disagreement to keep the the conflict going, as has been the case with Hamas and Israel, which is why you both are clueless on why it will continue if you both keep seeking to blame one side.
That is how extremism and hate are fueled

Phildidge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Lol! You're the own who got upset bruv. Let's not forget that.

and since when are hypocrites honest? Lol!

Well answer the question, have you ever been hypocritical?

Everyone has been hypocritical at some point, are you even denying this?

For example I as once homophobic, now I am not homophobic, thus I was hypocritical on homosexuality.

Can you understand this or do you need me to break it down to a mentality of a 5 year old for you? lol

smelly_bandit wrote:

Phildidge wrote:



Thank you for proving my point, both of you need to feed each others cause with disagreement to keep the the conflict going, as has been the case with Hamas and Israel, which is why you both are clueless on why it will continue if you both keep seeking to blame one side.
That is how extremism and hate are fueled

we were actually agreeing with each other mongo

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Phildidge wrote:



Well answer the question, have you ever been hypocritical?

Everyone has been hypocritical at some point, are you even denying this?

For example I as once homophobic, now I am not homophobic, thus I was hypocritical on homosexuality.

Can you understand this or do you need me to break it down to a mentality of a 5 year old for you? lol

No that's not hypocrisy. Lol. You just changed your mind.

I don't say one thing and do/say another.  

Just as you said yesterday that you didn't like childish tactics but then do exactly that - like your last sentence above.

I don't mind. But then don't get upset and cry like a little baby when I so the same to you.

Phildidge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

The first smart thing I've heard you say.   

Thank you for proving my point, both of you need to feed each others cause with disagreement to keep the the conflict going, as has been the case with Hamas and Israel, which is why you both are clueless on why it will continue if you both keep seeking to blame one side.
That is how extremism and hate are fueled

Phildidge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

No that's not hypocrisy. Lol. You just changed your mind.

I don't say one thing and do/say another.  

Just as you said yesterday that you didn't like childish tactics but then do exactly that - like your last sentence above.

I don't mind. But then don't get upset and cry like a little baby when I so the same to you.

You do not mind but keep pointing it out thus proving you are hypothetical, lol

Thanks that was easy for me to prove ha ha

You walked right into it was well

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Phildidge wrote:



Thank you for proving my point, both of you need to feed each others cause with disagreement to keep the the conflict going, as has been the case with Hamas and Israel, which is why you both are clueless on why it will continue if you both keep seeking to blame one side.
That is how extremism and hate are fueled

Lol! You're cheap.

Play your little childish games. See ya.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Im glad you are so upfront about your hatred Smelly

She must have broken your heart pretty badly!

I know. It explains so much.