We were wrong, all cultures are not equal
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We were wrong, all cultures are not equal
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For years, we all turned a blind eye to the segregation of Muslim pupils. Now it is time to stand up to propagators of barbarism and ignorance.
If I have learnt one thing working with children as a teacher, a volunteer and, more recently, a parent, it’s that what children want above all else is to fit in... Integrating children into a new society, then, should not present too much of a problem... common interests for youngsters are not hard to find. So how have we ended up with a situation where so many Muslims are adrift from the mainstream? Why this scandal in Birmingham where five overwhelmingly Muslim schools, some until recently judged to be outstanding, are to be put into special measures because they have sought to inculcate ideas that are repellent to this country?
Let me quote Myriam Francois-Cerrah, a writer and Muslim convert, who told Channel 4 News on Tuesday that she rejected calls by the Prime Minister and Michael Gove, the Education Secretary, for schools to promote British values. “In many ways, the problem is creating a hierarchy of cultures when you say you need to promote British values,” she objected. “What does that say to children in a classroom whose heritage harks from outside the British Isles? It says this country has superior moral values and you are coming from some backward culture whose values you … must not consider equal to our own.” Funnily enough, that’s exactly what we are saying, Myriam. Spot on! A Muslim girl who winds up in Bolton or Luton should thank her lucky stars she doesn’t live in Sudan – or Pakistan, where, only last month, a woman was stoned to death by her family for the crime of marrying a man of whom they disapproved. Are British values superior to Mr Parveen’s? I do hope so...
Unfortunately, the great lie underpinning the creed of multiculturalism, as spouted by Francois‑Cerrah and her ilk, is that all cultures are “equally valid”. Well, patently, they’re not. The reason irate Pakistani patriarchs are not chucking bricks at their errant daughters in the Birmingham Bull Ring is because Britain has a basically uncorrupt police force, a robust judiciary and an enlightened, hard-won system of liberal values that regards women and girls as equals, not third-class citizens...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10892606/Trojan-Horse-debate-We-were-wrong-all-cultures-are-not-equal.html
For years, we all turned a blind eye to the segregation of Muslim pupils. Now it is time to stand up to propagators of barbarism and ignorance.
If I have learnt one thing working with children as a teacher, a volunteer and, more recently, a parent, it’s that what children want above all else is to fit in... Integrating children into a new society, then, should not present too much of a problem... common interests for youngsters are not hard to find. So how have we ended up with a situation where so many Muslims are adrift from the mainstream? Why this scandal in Birmingham where five overwhelmingly Muslim schools, some until recently judged to be outstanding, are to be put into special measures because they have sought to inculcate ideas that are repellent to this country?
Let me quote Myriam Francois-Cerrah, a writer and Muslim convert, who told Channel 4 News on Tuesday that she rejected calls by the Prime Minister and Michael Gove, the Education Secretary, for schools to promote British values. “In many ways, the problem is creating a hierarchy of cultures when you say you need to promote British values,” she objected. “What does that say to children in a classroom whose heritage harks from outside the British Isles? It says this country has superior moral values and you are coming from some backward culture whose values you … must not consider equal to our own.” Funnily enough, that’s exactly what we are saying, Myriam. Spot on! A Muslim girl who winds up in Bolton or Luton should thank her lucky stars she doesn’t live in Sudan – or Pakistan, where, only last month, a woman was stoned to death by her family for the crime of marrying a man of whom they disapproved. Are British values superior to Mr Parveen’s? I do hope so...
Unfortunately, the great lie underpinning the creed of multiculturalism, as spouted by Francois‑Cerrah and her ilk, is that all cultures are “equally valid”. Well, patently, they’re not. The reason irate Pakistani patriarchs are not chucking bricks at their errant daughters in the Birmingham Bull Ring is because Britain has a basically uncorrupt police force, a robust judiciary and an enlightened, hard-won system of liberal values that regards women and girls as equals, not third-class citizens...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10892606/Trojan-Horse-debate-We-were-wrong-all-cultures-are-not-equal.html
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Because MOST of the world is still feeling the effect of those Bastard Brits and.....Tommy Monk wrote:veya_victaous wrote:It is True, All Cultures Are Inferior to the Glorious Convict Nation
Part of the Problem is you say British Values like they are anything to be proud of, you guys didn't stop being asshole to MOST of the world in to after WW2 why would anyone think ohh British Values are something to Aspire to. Their greatest Heroes are literally Men that Fought AGAINST Secular Democracy (Nelson , Wellington etc)
Maybe If you Said Modern Secular Values, People could go yeah that are something to aspire to, But a nation that Completely owes it current position to oppression if inflicted on others in the Past can rightful told to STFU, you have NO moral high ground.
Why do you always go on about the few bastards who were in charge and forget about the millions of British people who were also subjugated...???
Have you ever been to Britain?
Why do you always go on about a few fundamentalist and forget about all the Muslims they oppress?
No, but I know plenty of people that have Got no interest personally.
ALSO if you are talking about modern UK then culture is secularist, which is my point British values are something old and not good, the modern values currently in Brittan are not British they are Secular They are all over the western world, and really USA and France can honestly take the credit.
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stardesk wrote:Just a brief note. Islamic extremism is on the increase. The Russians didn't defeat the Taliban, and despite what's been said, our forces and the Americans haven't eliminated them in Afghanistan. Now they're rising up in Iraq, so that was a waste of our soldiers time and lives.
Where ever Islam exists, there are the extremists, and the fear is their agenda and practices will/are spreading. Do you want to see another Lee Rigby, another tube and bus atrocities? More plane bombings? Of course not, but the longer we ignore these people, many of whom are already here, then beware.
you are wasting your breath stardesk
the left will never do anything to combat Islamic terrorism, for 3 reasons
A - they are ignorant, willfully or otherwise, of what islam is , what its message is, how its structured and its doctrine and dogma
B - they are unwilling to learn what islam is , what its message is, how its structured and what its doctrine and dogma are
C -they are unwilling to associate Islam with terrorism
for gods sake one of them created a thread that listed climate change as the motivation and reason for boko harams activities,these lefties will stop at nothing to distort the truth and warp reality to protect Muslims and defend Islam
you ask if they want more acts of terror? the simple answer is that yes they do want more.
when a person is infected with a virus or disease the best treatment is to find what the virus is and then administer the appropriate medication to destroy the virus/disease
this is precisely what is NOt happening with Islamic fanaticism
the current approach is to target the symptoms of the disease, and then make excuses for those symptoms, in the case of Islam, Muslims are the symptom of the disease which is Islam
only by examining islam in an honest, historic and analytical capacity will we begin to understand why a Muslim fanatic becomes a fanatic and does what he does.
unfortunately Islam as a belief system cannot stand up to such scrutiny, forget theology and faith, if the general public knew more about what Islam was they would never stand for it,
Islam is not a religion its a totalitarian political ideology that is wrapped and packaged as a religion, it corrupts and controls the heart mind and soul of a person.
if Hitler declared Nazism as Germany only official religion, you would have a concept that resembled Islam in structure and idea if not identical in content
and this is our downfall, Islam is seen as a religion instead of what it is, and because we pride ourselves on our freedom and opposition to tyranny, even though Islam is tyrannical we are unable to combat it because of our restrictions that we place on ourselves
and that means Islam has a green light to be aggressively expanded and imposed across the board with impunity by Muslims who cannot be touched or stopped because its their "religion"
essentially until we be honest with ourselves about islam??
we be fucked
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stardesk wrote:Just a brief note. Islamic extremism is on the increase. The Russians didn't defeat the Taliban, and despite what's been said, our forces and the Americans haven't eliminated them in Afghanistan. Now they're rising up in Iraq, so that was a waste of our soldiers time and lives.
Where ever Islam exists, there are the extremists, and the fear is their agenda and practices will/are spreading. Do you want to see another Lee Rigby, another tube and bus atrocities? More plane bombings? Of course not, but the longer we ignore these people, many of whom are already here, then beware.
So what do you think we can do about it stardesk?
I have said for years the only thing we can do is separate ourselves from them. Isn't that the sensible thing? What do we tell our children - "avoid confrontation, just ignore them and stay away from them"?
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BigAndy9 wrote:stardesk wrote:Just a brief note. Islamic extremism is on the increase. The Russians didn't defeat the Taliban, and despite what's been said, our forces and the Americans haven't eliminated them in Afghanistan. Now they're rising up in Iraq, so that was a waste of our soldiers time and lives.
Where ever Islam exists, there are the extremists, and the fear is their agenda and practices will/are spreading. Do you want to see another Lee Rigby, another tube and bus atrocities? More plane bombings? Of course not, but the longer we ignore these people, many of whom are already here, then beware.
So what do you think we can do about it stardesk?
I have said for years the only thing we can do is separate ourselves from them. Isn't that the sensible thing? What do we tell our children - "avoid confrontation, just ignore them and stay away from them"?
again it wont work
we need an awakening to what Islam is in order for there to be a desire to separate from it
as it stands the left are pushing hard that Islam is wonderful and it enriches us,im sure there has even been several attempts to show how we would still be in the stone age without Islams "contributions"
and there are still to many, especially amongst the younger generation who have been indoctrinated to believe this bollox
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smelly_bandit wrote:BigAndy9 wrote:
So what do you think we can do about it stardesk?
I have said for years the only thing we can do is separate ourselves from them. Isn't that the sensible thing? What do we tell our children - "avoid confrontation, just ignore them and stay away from them"?
again it wont work
we need an awakening to what Islam is in order for there to be a desire to separate from it
as it stands the left are pushing hard that Islam is wonderful and it enriches us,im sure there has even been several attempts to show how we would still be in the stone age without Islams "contributions"
and there are still to many, especially amongst the younger generation who have been indoctrinated to believe this bollox
Actually most rational people see the problem is religion per say, because throughout the last 1800 years, the Bible, the Torah and then later the Quran as well as other religious books all have been used to justify crimes.
It is why you could not answer my points before, as when religious elites rule and take the religious works as the word of their God as you do see less so with Christians, but many still in the US, is because more and more in the west they have access to question the works, this is happening within Muslim countries and in time many will be like the West, Muslims in name only.
But to claim Islam is evil, means also the same applies to the biblical deity and yet you follow something as evil as that. So basically your logic on Islam would mean any religion in a present climate would be evil, even though may have violent histories and extremist followers themselves
This is why atheists don't have to follow man made babble as you do.
The reality is those who receive the vast majority of persecution at the hands of Islamic extremist is Muslims themselves which is odd, if we were to apply your illogical views to the situation and Islam itself.
The point as always smelly is that you seek the same as the Islamic extremist, to promote an atmosphere of fear and hate, which if allowed to go unchecked with have seen the repercussion before.
We had many religious elite idiots in this nation for centuries dictating the lives of people, over a long time people stood up to them and challenged their seats in Government. Thus you wish to seek divide groups of people, to encourage a rise of hate of a religion that sends this nation into yet another of countless other religious wars this nation has faced. Which is of course exactly what the Islamic extremists want and why it is completely daft.Things rarely change over night but they will if people are in unity to tackle all extremism.
Hate solves fuck all except make it very profitable to become an undertaker. Your illogical views would bring about warm global war, we have notr seen since the 1940.s. This would mean millions of deaths, unwanted violence and destruction that the world has not seen since the
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smelly_bandit wrote:my name is didge ::attn:: or ill bore you to death with :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-:
If common sense is boredom to you, then it may explain why being as you are a Christian yourself ,you must therefore back the view of Christianity as being evil, as Jesus is meant to be the same God as the Jews. All 3 religions instill fear in order to gather converts. They all have vastly cruel punishments. Thus applying the same logic you use on Muslims. and Islam, based upon religious books, hey would all be evil.
Your argument is just based on a time scale, where the only difference here again is how groups of people are becoming less religiously inclined due mainly to science, which is great news. The reality is all these faiths if in power and as seen from before are the same, there is few difference between them, something you fail to always see.
You negate when Christian religious elites ruled, they dd the same as we see in some countries like Saudi and Iran.
The deities in all 3 are bullies and even Jesus as stated is claimed to a return by Jesus, at the head of army, with a sword coming out of his mouth to lay waste to the those of the world
You want disunity, hate etc leading to a global war, the, same as Islamic extremists ant, that will become a yet again another west against east conflict that will take the lives of millions, and all because you and other various extremists all think that being hateful, is the way forward, odd that in that you are very similar goals to Islamic extremist, spread hate, create disunity etc hoping it will lea to a global conflict, where both you and the Islamic extremists want to seek the destruction of each side, not bothering to think about the vast majority of people into this,
As I say you do not have an answer, as those fueled and led by hate, have little reasoning abilities.
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You see an absurd argument, so using the logic of smelly
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Breivik was an evil ---- but he didn't commit that atrocity in the name of God, unlike the millions of muslims worldwide out fighting and blowing shit up to satisfy Allah's bloodlust. Fail Didge.
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The Puzzler wrote:Breivik was an evil ---- but he didn't commit that atrocity in the name of God, unlike the millions of muslims worldwide out fighting and blowing shit up to satisfy Allah's bloodlust. Fail Didge.
I will answer this before I go out.
First you really cannot follow context.
Smelly is a follower of far right ideology
Breviks ideology was far right politics, thus the point was not being made on religion, even though his ideology was based around him being Christian and defending the Christian faith, from Islam.
He killed and murdered non-Muslim children to advocate his point.
The second part of your post is even more absurd, that now Islam advocates killing many innocent people, which it does not, it states clearly to only fight if transgressed against, it is not a pacifist faith, that seeks to engage in war.,Islamic extremists believe hey can kill anyone, which conflicts vastly with the majority of Muslims, Where again the Islamic extremists reasons are political and to what they see and view as revenge from what they claim is wrongs done to Muslims. Yes their justification is absurd also and the same where you in fact are endorsing the extremist view on Islam, and then placing the label what Islam is based on the extremist actions. and not the vast majority who believe it is wrong to kill innocents
Sorry that is illogical . You might want to research a tad more what drives people to terrorism and extremism, as it is not their faith that has made them turn to terrorism, they never believed before to so as Muslims, thus it is events that happen, that are played upon by the extremists to recruit others, claiming a fear the west is out to destroy Islam.
You see the Islamic extremists use the same fear and hate arguments as the far right do, they both play and use those killed hurt or raped within their nation or of that faith. Both extremism fuel each other and unless both are addressed, then you will have a whirlwind of shit. People being united no matter if Muslims or Non Muslims, no matter the country, stand in unity against all extremist and terrorist groups, they will lose their ability to both play off the individual victims
All the 3 Abrahamic faiths are the same, they all have harsh barbaric hate and punishment, and deities that are bullies.
Right, have to go, time for the build up to the England game, so all of you enjoy.
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Would someone like to point out what islam has contributed to the world in the last 100 yrs,. A few hundred yrs ago they were credited with what we call "modern thinking" since then they have descended into barbarity.SOME of them.
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nicko wrote:Would someone like to point out what islam has contributed to the world in the last 100 yrs,. A few hundred yrs ago they were credited with what we call "modern thinking" since then they have descended into barbarity.SOME of them.
Nicko, I like what you done there....SOME of them
I often try to cover myself too , as it's east to forget that and just say ' they' as in all of them.
I don't honesty know what Islam and or Muslims have contributed in the last 100 years, but some sites online will make out they have done nothing or have invented nothing, apart from have some camels and sand or kebab shops!
But as time goes on I guess all that's changing and if ever I'm at the hospital for appointments ,i very often see hound doctors, surgeons etc...
It's amazing how some press hype and exaggerations can as well as society's did views can get in the way..
Of course there will always be some undesirable Muslims Nicko, but more than equally there will be some very nice Muslims too.
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Joy Division wrote:nicko wrote:Would someone like to point out what islam has contributed to the world in the last 100 yrs,. A few hundred yrs ago they were credited with what we call "modern thinking" since then they have descended into barbarity.SOME of them.
Nicko, I like what you done there....SOME of them
I often try to cover myself too , as it's east to forget that and just say ' they' as in all of them.
I don't honesty know what Islam and or Muslims have contributed in the last 100 years, but some sites online will make out they have done nothing or have invented nothing, apart from have some camels and sand or kebab shops!
But as time goes on I guess all that's changing and if ever I'm at the hospital for appointments ,i very often see hound doctors, surgeons etc...
It's amazing how some press hype and exaggerations can as well as society's did views can get in the way..
Of course there will always be some undesirable Muslims Nicko, but more than equally there will be some very nice Muslims too.
I like how you refer to investigative journalism and factual reporting as "press hype and exaggeration"
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smelly_bandit wrote:Joy Division wrote:nicko wrote:Would someone like to point out what islam has contributed to the world in the last 100 yrs,. A few hundred yrs ago they were credited with what we call "modern thinking" since then they have descended into barbarity.SOME of them.
Nicko, I like what you done there....SOME of them
I often try to cover myself too , as it's east to forget that and just say ' they' as in all of them.
I don't honesty know what Islam and or Muslims have contributed in the last 100 years, but some sites online will make out they have done nothing or have invented nothing, apart from have some camels and sand or kebab shops!
But as time goes on I guess all that's changing and if ever I'm at the hospital for appointments ,i very often see hound doctors, surgeons etc...
It's amazing how some press hype and exaggerations can as well as society's did views can get in the way..
Of course there will always be some undesirable Muslims Nicko, but more than equally there will be some very nice Muslims too.
I like how you refer to investigative journalism and factual reporting as "press hype and exaggeration"
I like how you refer to press hype and exaggeration as "investigative journalism"
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smelly_bandit wrote:Joy Division wrote:
Nicko, I like what you done there....SOME of them
I often try to cover myself too , as it's east to forget that and just say ' they' as in all of them.
I don't honesty know what Islam and or Muslims have contributed in the last 100 years, but some sites online will make out they have done nothing or have invented nothing, apart from have some camels and sand or kebab shops!
But as time goes on I guess all that's changing and if ever I'm at the hospital for appointments ,i very often see hound doctors, surgeons etc...
It's amazing how some press hype and exaggerations can as well as society's did views can get in the way..
Of course there will always be some undesirable Muslims Nicko, but more than equally there will be some very nice Muslims too.
I like how you refer to investigative journalism and factual reporting as "press hype and exaggeration"
Well as pointed out, is teaching the bible on violent passages the same, that they should condemn to them the word of God? I mean the claim is of verses that teach barbaric commands and violence as stated, is to be condemn to prevent extremism. I mean sure you will no doubt go on about that there are less Christians who are extremists today and there are far more Muslim extremists, which on every level would show such verses do not turn people to extremism, as extremists are always led by fear, hate and political discourse., so, whether Christian, Jew and Muslim alike, the problem is the same. Throughout history this apparent west against the east, people have backed to what they see as he word of God. The only difference we see today,but in the West the vast majority of Christians, through teaching of science, butyet many still believe and be Christian, but in name only. They condemn such commands, unless they are a Christian apologists like William Laid Craig, who seeks to excuse the barbarity in the bible through his claim to God is just.
Thus we can see other factors play a major part in extremism, not really the religion that is always used to justify their cause. As seen through a history, of many religions, we see the same pattern. believers who advocate their religious works as the word of God who are the ones who fall prey to religious extremism, You do not see any Christian or Jew who believes the Bible and Quran are the word of God condemn the actions or commands they do, that we would see as wrong. That is the problem of religion, where people who take a man made myth and use it to base a view of a moral society. Our society is more free today because less people take the bible as the word of God, they still may believe in God and an after life etc, but they also realise all these religious books were written by men, where reading these books only men could print such barbarity, not any supreme intelligence.
Thus if your argument is over a religion as being the problem, then agreed they all are, Thus if we advocate a ruling here, it should be on all, I do not see thousands of Christian Faith schools condemn biblical passages from the bible. Does this mean they are also guilt of not doing enough education against extremism? What this is really saying is that religion should be banned from running schools. The problem is not the religion per say itself, the problem is idiots who take these books as the word of God, or led to believe that such commands are right. It shows the fatal flaws in religion, how people of faith can blind themselves. It took many years and many battles to overcome the views who held Christianity as the word of God. It will also take a long time to achieve the same in Muslims countries, which will happen in time, but all this shows is that religious scripture that is classed as barbaric, should be pointed out as such and condemned as ghastly evil. I mean why are we indoctrinating children, when they do not have the mental capacity to decide on such matters until they are older?
So what ever way you look at it smelly, the 3 Abrahamic faiths are based around he same principles, fear.
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Am busy today, so will add the main point here.
Religion is a problem if taken in the literal sense that it is the word of God. You want to know why we have far more Islamic extremists today?
It is simple, more Muslims today take their religious works as the word of their deity than Christians do today, though even here Muslims are starting to do the same. We know full well that when the vast majority of Christians believed the Bible as the word of their God, we had countless of he same problems.
If ever there was a rational logical argument against any religion, there you have it, If people take religion literally as divinely inspired or spoken, it thus points to the fact all religions are bad and are evil, because people who hold a literal belief of these works as divine, or even worse interpret an even worse interpretation of these views.
I have no issue that people want their lives to be led by fear and follow religion, but none should have any influence in how we teach our children in schools.
You see smelly your hate arguments, end up actually proving atheism holds for a much better rational moral society, than any religion one does, when hey are taken literally..
You see Atheism does not have any dogma, commands etc, it only has sound logical reasoning based upon science, where as religion, where people take it literally, well then you start to have problems, as sen throughout in history.
Religion is a problem if taken in the literal sense that it is the word of God. You want to know why we have far more Islamic extremists today?
It is simple, more Muslims today take their religious works as the word of their deity than Christians do today, though even here Muslims are starting to do the same. We know full well that when the vast majority of Christians believed the Bible as the word of their God, we had countless of he same problems.
If ever there was a rational logical argument against any religion, there you have it, If people take religion literally as divinely inspired or spoken, it thus points to the fact all religions are bad and are evil, because people who hold a literal belief of these works as divine, or even worse interpret an even worse interpretation of these views.
I have no issue that people want their lives to be led by fear and follow religion, but none should have any influence in how we teach our children in schools.
You see smelly your hate arguments, end up actually proving atheism holds for a much better rational moral society, than any religion one does, when hey are taken literally..
You see Atheism does not have any dogma, commands etc, it only has sound logical reasoning based upon science, where as religion, where people take it literally, well then you start to have problems, as sen throughout in history.
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BigAndy9 wrote:stardesk wrote:Just a brief note. Islamic extremism is on the increase. The Russians didn't defeat the Taliban, and despite what's been said, our forces and the Americans haven't eliminated them in Afghanistan. Now they're rising up in Iraq, so that was a waste of our soldiers time and lives.
Where ever Islam exists, there are the extremists, and the fear is their agenda and practices will/are spreading. Do you want to see another Lee Rigby, another tube and bus atrocities? More plane bombings? Of course not, but the longer we ignore these people, many of whom are already here, then beware.
So what do you think we can do about it stardesk?
I have said for years the only thing we can do is separate ourselves from them. Isn't that the sensible thing? What do we tell our children - "avoid confrontation, just ignore them and stay away from them"?
I think you miss an important point, andy. You don't have to do anything at all about them. The bad ones are criminals so let the criminal justice system deal with them. As far as Muslim extremism is concerned, let the Muslim community deal with them. Like most people, the mainstream just want peace and stability and they will soon quell the extremists. Y'all have made such a mess of the Irish question by your remedial 'measures,' and added a hundred years more to the hostilities. So cool it and let society wash its own.
In America we have had a lot more experience with immigration than y'all will ever have. The Dutch, Irish, Italians, Swedes, Hungarians, Germans, Puerto Ricans...and all fit the same pattern. At first they are outcasts, don't speak the language, don't know how to find jobs. So they are poor. Then they form gangs and turn to crime. Some even corrupt the system. There is a constant tug of war between the law and the gangs, until eventually their own community closes it down. People in their community want to move into the mainstream--we call it the 'melting pot' thesis--and so they put the kabosh on their own. If you are worried about the Muslim extremists, I see no reason for concern. They will melt in soon enough.
Reactionary measures are never successful. Remember in the film, Tombstone, Sheriff John Behan introduced himself as the Chairman of the Nonpartisan Anti-Chinese League? Reactionary measures are as silly now as they were then. Allow people to be their own remedy.
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Lone Wolf wrote:smelly_bandit wrote:................................
the left will never do anything to combat Islamic terrorism, for 3 reasons
A - they are ignorant, willfully or otherwise, of what islam is , what its message is, how its structured and its doctrine and dogma
B - they are unwilling to learn what islam is , what its message is, how its structured and what its doctrine and dogma are
C -they are unwilling to associate Islam with terrorism
............................. we be fucked
THIS latest bullshit rant by the brainless little smellybum' shows just what a total little oxygen thief and general waste of space, he is...
IT completely escapes him how his lies about lefties/liberals as a group makes his perverse outlook just as senseless and witless as those Islamist terrorists groups that he's so terrified of..
IF the boy had even half a brain, he'd be dangerous.
His only thought and reasoning process is centered around hate, he then looks to blame something, by using hate, then when challenged his brain has a complete melt down and cannot formulate these new processes. Sadly some humans are born individually deficient and what you have to do is pat smelly on the head and say "there, there, mummy will kiss it all better"
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