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Post by scrat Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:23 am

"It's not fair to punish millions of families with children for an economic crisis caused by the banks."

You'll get some posters on here bile spouting about muslamic ray guns, immigrants and the IMF congratulating the tories on austerity measures.

And nothing about the effects.

£225bn deeper in debt, AAA credit rating shot to fuck, having to work longer and harder for less, and with no plans whatsoever to address child poverty.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27734513

3.5 million British children, in poverty, and nothing, not even a dickie bird,,,,,fucking disgrace
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:31 am

What are they missing scrat, these children in question?

What do my children have that they don't?

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Post by scrat Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:41 am

BigAndy9 wrote:What are they missing scrat, these children in question?

What do my children have that they don't?
A life, an opportunity to realise their full potential Andy.

While you slide up to the tories, mouth agape, fluttering you eyelids and flirtatiously bleating,,,,"just put it in my mouth, sir", the reality of poverty continues.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:49 am

scrat wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:What are they missing scrat, these children in question?

What do my children have that they don't?
A life, an opportunity to realise their full potential Andy.

While you slide up to the tories, mouth agape, fluttering you eyelids and flirtatiously bleating,,,,"just put it in my mouth, sir", the reality of poverty continues.


But i was homeless, along with my mum, sister and two brothers in 1986.

The one thing i had was aspirations.

Opportunities? You make those yourself scrat.


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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:50 am

scrat wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:What are they missing scrat, these children in question?

What do my children have that they don't?
A life, an opportunity to realise their full potential Andy.

While you slide up to the tories, mouth agape, fluttering you eyelids and flirtatiously bleating,,,,"just put it in my mouth, sir", the reality of poverty continues.


We all get the same opportunities.

We are all clothed and fed.

The only other thing you need is ambition, drive and discipline scrat.

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Post by scrat Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:58 am

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A life, an opportunity to realise their full potential Andy.

While you slide up to the tories, mouth agape, fluttering you eyelids and flirtatiously bleating,,,,"just put it in my mouth, sir", the reality of poverty continues.


But i was homeless, along with my mum, sister and two brothers in 1986.

The one thing i had was aspirations.  

Opportunities?  You make those yourself scrat.

So you tell us Andy, 1986 was deep in the era of the milk snatch, society was in perpetual decline and decay, and yet you don't see the irony in that,,,,,and TBH we've all heard many RWhinge anecdotes on how they've struggled with poverty and succeeded.

Perhaps you can enlighten a future generation of poverty stricken children on how you managed to overcome your homeless without any support from the government, because thats the reality and it's coming our way.
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Post by nicko Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:14 am

Scrat, NO child in "poverty" as you put it.If any are in poverty blame the parents who must have money for bingo, fags,beer,holidays abroad ect. If you see any in "poverty" report it to Social Services, they will check up [if your lucky]Sick of these left wing idiots shouting about poverty,if you want to see real poverty go to parts of Africa,India ect. In the meanwhile shut the fuck up with your bullshit posts trying to make out we would be better off under Labour.  Evil or Very Mad 
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Post by gerber Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:17 am

Hansdsome

I have to agree with Nicko on this ( In the main ) my language would be different..... Smile 
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:18 am

scrat wrote:
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But i was homeless, along with my mum, sister and two brothers in 1986.

The one thing i had was aspirations.  

Opportunities?  You make those yourself scrat.

So you tell us Andy, 1986 was deep in the era of the milk snatch, society was in perpetual decline and decay, and yet you don't see the irony in that,,,,,and TBH we've all heard many RWhinge anecdotes on how they've struggled with poverty and succeeded.

Perhaps you can enlighten a future generation of poverty stricken children on how you managed to overcome your homeless without any support from the government, because thats the reality and it's coming our way.


I already have - ambition, drive, discipline.

You yourself have highlighted the big no-no - relying on the support of the government - do that and you will never ever succeed!

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Post by scrat Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:26 am

nicko wrote:Scrat, NO child in "poverty" as you put it.If any are in poverty blame the parents who must have money for bingo, fags,beer,holidays abroad ect. If you see any in "poverty" report it to Social Services, they will check up [if your lucky]Sick of these left wing idiots  shouting about poverty,if you want to see real poverty go to parts of Africa,India ect. In the meanwhile shut the fuck up with your bullshit posts trying to make out we would be better off under Labour.   Evil or Very Mad 
It never ceases to amaze me how the RWhinge aim for the lowest level possible, and I've lived in Africa and still travel to Africa Penfold and yes you're quite correct the poverty there is awful, is this the kind of poverty you're aiming for,,,,for British People?

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:28 am

scrat wrote:"It's not fair to punish millions of families with children for an economic crisis caused by the banks."

You'll get some posters on here bile spouting about muslamic ray guns, immigrants and the IMF congratulating the tories on austerity measures.

And nothing about the effects.

£225bn deeper in debt, AAA credit rating shot to fuck, having to work longer and harder for less, and with no plans whatsoever to address child poverty.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27734513

3.5 million British children, in poverty, and nothing, not even a dickie bird,,,,,fucking disgrace

This is what happens when you put left wing scum like labour in charge for over A decade

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Post by scrat Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:35 am

BigAndy9 wrote:
scrat wrote:
So you tell us Andy, 1986 was deep in the era of the milk snatch, society was in perpetual decline and decay, and yet you don't see the irony in that,,,,,and TBH we've all heard many RWhinge anecdotes on how they've struggled with poverty and succeeded.

Perhaps you can enlighten a future generation of poverty stricken children on how you managed to overcome your homeless without any support from the government, because thats the reality and it's coming our way.


I already have - ambition, drive, discipline.

You yourself have highlighted the big no-no - relying on the support of the government - do that and you will never ever succeed!
Youre not answering the question Andy, you've told us you managed to save your family from the homelessness and destitution inflicted on you and your family by the policies of the milk snatch, please tell us how you overcame such adversity.
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Post by nicko Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:49 am

Scrat, why do you keep on about Thatcher being the "milk snatcher" you'v be shown time and again that it was Harold Wilson who started it.D o you think that if you repeat things ad-nauseum that people will believe it? Bye the way I spent over 10 years in Africa,that is real poverty.
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Post by nicko Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:52 am

Scrat,your last post is totally ridiculous,
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:54 am

Wilson stopped Government spending on milk for children over 11, after it had been shown most of them were not drinking it and their bones were already formed. He gave Councils the option to pay for it if they thought it necessary. Thatcher stopped it for children in primary school, who were drinking it, and who still had bones forming, so it was good for them, and also stopped Councils from funding it. Rather a difference Nicko.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:09 pm

How many times has this milk snatcher argument to be played out?......


Nicko...Thatcher did stop out for primary schools and made it illegal for any council to supply free milk for them...

Wilson stopped it for secondary schools, but did not make it illegal for councils to supply then if they asked for it...the uptake for secondary school milk was so low anyway.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:11 pm

I'm glad successive left wing governments have sorted the milk and "poverty" problem out then.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:24 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:I'm glad successive left wing governments have sorted the milk and "poverty" problem out then.

 Wink 


It's nothing new having to fix the wrongs of the rights if bet what I'm saying Andy!

The rot had to stop, hopefully Labour can have the opportunity to stop the most vulnerable being picked on again by the RW led coalition by way of ditching the bedroom tax and being the cause of people starving to death while waiting on benefits coming through to which they should be entitled to from the date they apply.

We must stop this RW madness and cruelty right now...picking on the poor, disabled, elderly and most vulnerable people...(yes, benefit scroungers in your eyes Andy).

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Post by Raggamuffin Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:59 pm

What are the pictures in the article supposed to convey?

I'd also like to know how "poverty" is defined.
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Post by nicko Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:21 pm

Sassy, you are correct,but you can't get around Wilson started it.
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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:10 pm

scrat wrote:"It's not fair to punish millions of families with children for an economic crisis caused by the banks."

You'll get some posters on here bile spouting about muslamic ray guns, immigrants and the IMF congratulating the tories on austerity measures.

And nothing about the effects.

£225bn deeper in debt, AAA credit rating shot to fuck, having to work longer and harder for less, and with no plans whatsoever to address child poverty.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27734513

3.5 million British children, in poverty, and nothing, not even a dickie bird,,,,,fucking disgrace

Define poverty in the UK. Having no mobile phone? No Wii? Having to wear second hand clothes, or God forbid, Primark? No takeaways? No Sky? Or is it a case of parents spending more on fags, booze and drugs rather than food? With the UK benefits system, no child should be in poverty. If they are, it's the fault of the parents not the state. If you can't afford kids, don't have them. The problem with the UK is that there is a general sense of entitlement that stinks the whole country up. I've seen massive poverty in my travels. Massive. Living in the UK is a walk in the fucking park by comparison.
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Post by scrat Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:35 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
scrat wrote:"It's not fair to punish millions of families with children for an economic crisis caused by the banks."

You'll get some posters on here bile spouting about muslamic ray guns, immigrants and the IMF congratulating the tories on austerity measures.

And nothing about the effects.

£225bn deeper in debt, AAA credit rating shot to fuck, having to work longer and harder for less, and with no plans whatsoever to address child poverty.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27734513

3.5 million British children, in poverty, and nothing, not even a dickie bird,,,,,fucking disgrace

Define poverty in the UK.  Having no mobile phone?   No Wii?   Having to wear second hand clothes, or God forbid, Primark?   No takeaways?   No Sky?    Or is it a case of parents spending more on fags, booze and drugs rather than food?   With the UK benefits system, no child should be in poverty. If they are, it's the fault of the parents not the state.   If you can't afford kids, don't have them.    The problem with the UK is that there is a general sense of entitlement that stinks the whole country up.   I've seen massive poverty in my travels.   Massive.  Living in the UK is a walk in the fucking park by comparison.


Define poverty in the UK.

Individuals, families and groups in the population can be said to be in poverty when they lack resources to obtain the type of diet, participate in the activities and have the living conditions and amenities which are customary, or at least widely encouraged and approved, in the societies in which they belong.

Benefit

What it shows is that the Department for Welfare and Pensions is the biggest spending department in the UK - spending £166.98bn in 2011-12, which is Of that huge sum, £159bn was spent on benefits - an increase of 1.1% on the previous year. That is 23% of all public spending.

Ask people where that money goes and the assumptions might be on unemployment or incapacity benefit. In fact, 47% of UK benefit spending goes on state pensions of £74.22bn a year, more than the £48.2bn the UK spends on servicing its debt.

Tax avoidance and evasion.

The cost of tax avoidance and evasion to the UK economy is estimated @ £260 million,,,,,,a day!!!

The only benefit system I can see is the £70bn being swindled out of the British tax payer by tax eVaders and £25bn by tax avoiders, and then there's the £1.3 TRILLION stashed away in tax havens.

"No child should be in poverty" was bleated by this particular RWhinge cretin, and yet the Victorian illness "rickets" has returned.

Who does this particular RWhinge cretin blame, the parents,,, for bringing them forth into this world.

Wake the fuck up.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:39 pm

That's a great post Scrat, with research on facts and figures...

The fact is there IS definitely child poverty in the UK..but not on the scale of Africa, but many kids go without proper meals ever day...

And I think free school meals is and has been the saviour for many children.

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:19 pm

Scrat you are deluded.


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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:20 pm

Free school meals for poorer families is not a new thing either JD.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:27 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Free school meals for poorer families is not a new thing either JD.



...I not saying it is Tommy, I'm only highlighting how crucial these free school meals are to the poorest of kids.

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Post by scrat Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:38 am

smelly_bandit wrote:
scrat wrote:"It's not fair to punish millions of families with children for an economic crisis caused by the banks."

You'll get some posters on here bile spouting about muslamic ray guns, immigrants and the IMF congratulating the tories on austerity measures.

And nothing about the effects.

£225bn deeper in debt, AAA credit rating shot to fuck, having to work longer and harder for less, and with no plans whatsoever to address child poverty.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27734513

3.5 million British children, in poverty, and nothing, not even a dickie bird,,,,,fucking disgrace

This is what happens when you put left wing scum like labour in charge for over A decade
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:49 am

Britain's child poverty plans are "doomed" to fail as 3.5 million children will be in poverty by 2020, says a watchdog chaired by former labour minister and health secretary Alan Milburn.


A labour twat making up lies and spin......


What a surprise!!!



This from the labour party who were happy to pay benefit claimants up to £100,000 a year.....


That'll stop poverty won't it Scrat?


At least for The dole busters, shame about all The hard working people who were paying for it eh?
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Post by scrat Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:24 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Britain's child poverty plans are "doomed" to fail as 3.5 million children will be in poverty by 2020, says a watchdog chaired by former labour minister and health secretary Alan Milburn.


A labour twat making up lies and spin......


What a surprise!!!



This from the labour party who were happy to pay benefit claimants up to £100,000 a year.....


That'll stop poverty won't it Scrat?


At least for The dole busters, shame about all The hard working people who were paying for it eh?
Heimat chap, It is the duty of every Briton to make this life as best it can be for everyone, we have the capacity to achieve this and to do this better than any other nation on the face of this globe,,,,,what else can possibly be more worthy and achieveable?
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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:17 am

scrat wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

Define poverty in the UK.  Having no mobile phone?   No Wii?   Having to wear second hand clothes, or God forbid, Primark?   No takeaways?   No Sky?    Or is it a case of parents spending more on fags, booze and drugs rather than food?   With the UK benefits system, no child should be in poverty. If they are, it's the fault of the parents not the state.   If you can't afford kids, don't have them.    The problem with the UK is that there is a general sense of entitlement that stinks the whole country up.   I've seen massive poverty in my travels.   Massive.  Living in the UK is a walk in the fucking park by comparison.


Define poverty in the UK.

Individuals, families and groups in the population can be said to be in poverty when they lack resources to obtain the type of diet, participate in the activities and have the living conditions and amenities which are customary, or at least widely encouraged and approved, in the societies in which they belong.

Benefit

What it shows is that the Department for Welfare and Pensions is the biggest spending department in the UK - spending £166.98bn in 2011-12, which is Of that huge sum, £159bn was spent on benefits - an increase of 1.1% on the previous year. That is 23% of all public spending.

Ask people where that money goes and the assumptions might be on unemployment or incapacity benefit. In fact, 47% of UK benefit spending goes on state pensions of £74.22bn a year, more than the £48.2bn the UK spends on servicing its debt.

Tax avoidance and evasion.

The cost of tax avoidance and evasion to the UK economy is estimated @ £260 million,,,,,,a day!!!

The only benefit system I can see is the £70bn being swindled out of the British tax payer by tax eVaders and £25bn by tax avoiders, and then there's the £1.3 TRILLION stashed away in tax havens.

"No child should be in poverty" was bleated by this particular RWhinge cretin, and yet the Victorian illness "rickets" has returned.

Who does this particular RWhinge cretin blame, the parents,,, for bringing them forth into this world.

Wake the fuck up.

Individuals, families and groups in the population can be said to be in poverty when they lack resources to obtain the type of diet, participate in the activities and have the living conditions and amenities which are customary, or at least widely encouraged and approved, in the societies in which they belong.


That definition is a bit vague because many things are now customary, and things which were once luxuries are now considered to be essential. Could you be more specific as to what you mean by poverty?

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Individuals, families and groups in the population can be said to be in poverty when they lack resources to obtain the type of diet, participate in the activities and have the living conditions and amenities which are customary, or at least widely encouraged and approved, in the societies in which they belong.



Now then now then.

Here is the problem for BigAndy9 - this is quite obviously a modern, Western description of poverty to get more money out of the workers to dish out to the lazy non-workers.

If this is the real description of poverty then nobody in most of Africa is living in poverty, are they? It is the norm to have nothing, therefore none of them are in poverty.

Come on scrat... in fact, forget it, i won't ask you again, i'll tell you:

Poverty is not having shelter and clothing to protect you from the elements and food to keep you properly nourished.

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:01 am

BigAndy9 wrote:Individuals, families and groups in the population can be said to be in poverty when they lack resources to obtain the type of diet, participate in the activities and have the living conditions and amenities which are customary, or at least widely encouraged and approved, in the societies in which they belong.



Now then now then.

Here is the problem for BigAndy9 - this is quite obviously a modern, Western description of poverty to get more money out of the workers to dish out to the lazy non-workers.

If this is the real description of poverty then nobody in most of Africa is living in poverty, are they?  It is the norm to have nothing, therefore none of them are in poverty.

Come on scrat... in fact, forget it, i won't ask you again, i'll tell you:

Poverty is not having shelter and clothing to protect you from the elements and food to keep you properly nourished.

It seems to me that it's all to do with where you happen to be born. If you're born in the UK, you should be entitled to a TV, car, mobile phone, new trainers, etc, just because a lot of people have those things. I don't think that going without those things could be considered to be living in poverty really.
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Post by Guest Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:05 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:Individuals, families and groups in the population can be said to be in poverty when they lack resources to obtain the type of diet, participate in the activities and have the living conditions and amenities which are customary, or at least widely encouraged and approved, in the societies in which they belong.



Now then now then.

Here is the problem for BigAndy9 - this is quite obviously a modern, Western description of poverty to get more money out of the workers to dish out to the lazy non-workers.

If this is the real description of poverty then nobody in most of Africa is living in poverty, are they?  It is the norm to have nothing, therefore none of them are in poverty.

Come on scrat... in fact, forget it, i won't ask you again, i'll tell you:

Poverty is not having shelter and clothing to protect you from the elements and food to keep you properly nourished.

It seems to me that it's all to do with where you happen to be born. If you're born in the UK, you should be entitled to a TV, car, mobile phone, new trainers, etc, just because a lot of people have those things. I don't think that going without those things could be considered to be living in poverty really.



Your ignoring the facts and looking at this form a mor RW view, there are kids who go hungry on a daily basis here, ony eating a bare minimum to to survive each day, perjphaps only school dinners and maybe a piece to toast for tea....

And it's not beaches every unemployed or low earning parent blow it on fags , booze etc...the majority of poverty in this country is simply the cost of living dwarfs income. Helped on by the scumbag bedroom tax this Tory led coalition introduced.

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Post by scrat Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:37 am

The definition of poverty is relative to the society we live in.

Diet

In Africa any nutrition available because this can be a life or death situation.

In Europe, society is aware that a healthy lifestyle is less of a drain on the public purse.

It promotes healthy living, whilst at the very same time promoting greed, obesity, and gluttony.

The RWhinge want the poorest and most vulnerable British people to foot the bill for city vultures and parasites "fuck everyone else" greed. The RWhinge want poor people to stand out from the rest so that they might point the finger and mock them, "it woz them wot did it" is the cwy, "we took away their money and they couldn't keep up with the bills",,,, they want to see the poor form orderly queues at food banks, and make them wear armbands to disassociate them from the rest.

Who gains from poverty?
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scrat wrote:The definition of poverty is relative to the society we live in.

Diet

In Africa any nutrition available because this can be a life or death situation.

In Europe, society is aware that a healthy lifestyle is less of a drain on the public purse.

It promotes healthy living, whilst at the very same time promoting greed, obesity, and gluttony.

The RWhinge want the poorest and most vulnerable British people to foot the bill for city vultures and parasites "fuck everyone else" greed. The RWhinge want poor people to stand out from the rest so that they might point the finger and mock them, "it woz them wot did it" is the cwy, "we took away their money and they couldn't keep up with the bills",,,, they want to see the poor form orderly queues at food banks, and make them wear armbands to disassociate them from the rest.

Who gains from poverty?

What is your definition of poverty in the UK? The official one is too vague.

How are poor people footing the bill? Do you mean people who pay tax? Of course they pay tax because they benefit from public services.
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Post by scrat Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:01 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
scrat wrote:The definition of poverty is relative to the society we live in.

Diet

In Africa any nutrition available because this can be a life or death situation.

In Europe, society is aware that a healthy lifestyle is less of a drain on the public purse.

It promotes healthy living, whilst at the very same time promoting greed, obesity, and gluttony.

The RWhinge want the poorest and most vulnerable British people to foot the bill for city vultures and parasites "fuck everyone else" greed. The RWhinge want poor people to stand out from the rest so that they might point the finger and mock them, "it woz them wot did it" is the cwy, "we took away their money and they couldn't keep up with the bills",,,, they want to see the poor form orderly queues at food banks, and make them wear armbands to disassociate them from the rest.

Who gains from poverty?

What is your definition of poverty in the UK? The official one is too vague.

How are poor people footing the bill? Do you mean people who pay tax? Of course they pay tax because they benefit from public services.
My definition of poverty is the official one.

Poor people have been forced by the tories to work harder and longer for less, that's footing the bill.

Taxation is the price of democracy, I'm not worried about those that pay their taxes I'm more concerned at those citizens who do not,,,,£260 MILLION,,,,,a day!!!

Why do you wish to treat British people so badly, don't you want the best for your own people?
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Post by Guest Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:12 am

scrat wrote:The definition of poverty is relative to the society we live in.

Diet

In Africa any nutrition available because this can be a life or death situation.

In Europe, society is aware that a healthy lifestyle is less of a drain on the public purse.

It promotes healthy living, whilst at the very same time promoting greed, obesity, and gluttony.b

The RWhinge want the poorest and most vulnerable British people to foot the bill for city vultures and parasites "fuck everyone else" greed. The RWhinge want poor people to stand out from the rest so that they might point the finger and mock them, "it woz them wot did it" is the cwy, "we took away their money and they couldn't keep up with the bills",,,, they want to see the poor form orderly queues at food banks, and make them wear armbands to disassociate them from the rest.

Who gains from poverty?


Most correct Scrat..,there is just no way everyone can follow the governments advice by eating healthy and five a day and so on, the price of veg and fruit has rocketed, not to mention those living in rural areas with less choice of shops to choose from...

There is just no way poor folk could afford to eat healthy as well as the upkeep of a house and bills to pay..

Rags just bleats the same nonsense as he friends Andy, VOD, Favva, Kaka etc.

Deny deny deny.

And pretend everything is Rosy.

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Pull in the scummy tax dodgers!!!

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:17 pm

scrat wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

What is your definition of poverty in the UK? The official one is too vague.

How are poor people footing the bill? Do you mean people who pay tax? Of course they pay tax because they benefit from public services.
My definition of poverty is the official one.

Poor people have been forced by the tories to work harder and longer for less, that's footing the bill.

Taxation is the price of democracy, I'm not worried about those that pay their taxes I'm more concerned at those citizens who do not,,,,£260 MILLION,,,,,a day!!!

Why do you wish to treat British people so badly, don't you want the best for your own people?

Well could you expand on that definition? Give examples?

I asked you before how people were working harder and longer for less? Do you mean that they can't get the State pension until they're older than before? I know all about that - mine has been put back six years!  Laughing 
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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:18 pm

Joy Division wrote:
scrat wrote:The definition of poverty is relative to the society we live in.

Diet

In Africa any nutrition available because this can be a life or death situation.

In Europe, society is aware that a healthy lifestyle is less of a drain on the public purse.

It promotes healthy living, whilst at the very same time promoting greed, obesity, and gluttony.b

The RWhinge want the poorest and most vulnerable British people to foot the bill for city vultures and parasites "fuck everyone else" greed. The RWhinge want poor people to stand out from the rest so that they might point the finger and mock them, "it woz them wot did it" is the cwy, "we took away their money and they couldn't keep up with the bills",,,, they want to see the poor form orderly queues at food banks, and make them wear armbands to disassociate them from the rest.

Who gains from poverty?


Most correct Scrat..,there is just no way everyone can follow the governments advice by eating healthy and five a day and so on,  the price of veg and fruit has rocketed, not to mention those living in rural areas with less choice of shops to choose from...

There is just no way poor  folk could afford to eat healthy as well as the upkeep of a house and bills to pay..

Rags just bleats the same nonsense as he friends Andy, VOD, Favva, Kaka etc.

Deny deny deny.

And pretend everything is Rosy.

Well actually, I agree with you about the five a day thing. It's absurd when you think how much fruit and veg one family would have to buy. I think it's rubbish anyway, and it's just making people paranoid. Besides, I thought it had gone up to ten a day now.  Razz 
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Post by Guest Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:22 pm

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Joy Division wrote:


Most correct Scrat..,there is just no way everyone can follow the governments advice by eating healthy and five a day and so on,  the price of veg and fruit has rocketed, not to mention those living in rural areas with less choice of shops to choose from...

There is just no way poor  folk could afford to eat healthy as well as the upkeep of a house and bills to pay..

Rags just bleats the same nonsense as he friends Andy, VOD, Favva, Kaka etc.

Deny deny deny.

And pretend everything is Rosy.

Well actually, I agree with you about the five a day thing. It's absurd when you think how much fruit and veg one family would have to buy. I think it's rubbish anyway, and it's just making people paranoid. Besides, I thought it had gone up to ten a day now.  Razz 


ffs is it ten a day now?!!! Laughing 

That's me fcuked then!!

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Post by nicko Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:36 pm

JD,i urge you to ignore scrat's posts, scrat is a fanatical labour supporter who will post the most outrages lies about Tories. THERE are things the tories have done wrong,all parties make mistakes. Scrat has been telling lies about the Tories for years mostly on flap,posters on flap have rubbished him many times so he is trying his luck here.Honestly jd we are not as bad as he makes out.
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Post by Guest Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:48 pm

nicko wrote:JD,i urge you to ignore scrat's posts, scrat is a fanatical labour supporter who will post the most outrages lies about Tories. THERE are things the tories have done wrong,all parties make mistakes. Scrat has been telling lies about the Tories for years mostly on flap,posters on flap have rubbished him many times so he is trying his luck here.Honestly jd we are not as bad as he makes out.


Ah Nicko...I've always known Scrat to be a most honourable and honest gentleman chief, with manners to suit, he has a good nose for the liars and stands for equality and fairness...

He can more than dish it out if given it too, but Scrat never picks a fight, but he often does finish many mate.

The same Scrat I have known for almost five years or so now Smile cheers 


Scrat is a pillar of forum life and we are lucky to have him here standing up to racism, hatred, picking on the poor etc..


Like Gordon Brown, Scrat is a national treasure!


Not to mention a wealth of information!Smile

His posts are more fantastic, not fanatical...

He stands up to and sniffs out RW lies and spin  cheers 

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Post by nicko Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:02 pm

JD,i thought you were a intelligent poster,some of the time,but if you think scrat is a"good poster" there's no hope for you pal.
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:14 pm

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Tommy Monk wrote:Britain's child poverty plans are "doomed" to fail as 3.5 million children will be in poverty by 2020, says a watchdog chaired by former labour minister and health secretary Alan Milburn.
A labour twat making up lies and spin......
What a surprise!!!
This from the labour party who were happy to pay benefit claimants up to £100,000 a year.....
That'll stop poverty won't it Scrat?
At least for The dole busters, shame about all The hard working people who were paying for it eh?
Heimat chap, It is the duty of every Briton to make this life as best it can be for everyone, we have the capacity to achieve this and to do this better than any other nation on the face of this globe,,,,,what else can possibly be more worthy and achieveable?


So you approve of just handing out massive sums of money to those who refuse to get off their arses and go to work and make their own money?


Alan Milburn is a lying labour twat.


Enough money is dished out through child benefit and tax credits for every child in this country already.


It is cheaper to buy fresh And healthy foods and cook yourself to feed a family than it is to eat junk and take aways.


The problem lays with the parents.


And it costs nothing to go for a walk or run or for kids to exercise by playing any number of other games.

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:14 pm

scrat wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Britain's child poverty plans are "doomed" to fail as 3.5 million children will be in poverty by 2020, says a watchdog chaired by former labour minister and health secretary Alan Milburn.
A labour twat making up lies and spin......
What a surprise!!!
This from the labour party who were happy to pay benefit claimants up to £100,000 a year.....
That'll stop poverty won't it Scrat?
At least for The dole busters, shame about all The hard working people who were paying for it eh?
Heimat chap, It is the duty of every Briton to make this life as best it can be for everyone, we have the capacity to achieve this and to do this better than any other nation on the face of this globe,,,,,what else can possibly be more worthy and achieveable?
So you approve of just handing out massive sums of money to those who refuse to get off their arses and go to work and make their own money?
Alan Milburn is a lying labour twat.
Enough money is dished out through child benefit and tax credits for every child in this country already.
It is cheaper to buy fresh And healthy foods and cook yourself to feed a family than it is to eat junk and take aways.
The problem lays with the parents.
And it costs nothing to go for a walk or run or for kids to exercise by playing any number of other games.
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Post by Irn Bru Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:33 am

nicko wrote:JD,i urge you to ignore scrat's posts, scrat is a fanatical labour supporter who will post the most outrages lies about Tories. THERE are things the tories have done wrong,all parties make mistakes. Scrat has been telling lies about the Tories for years mostly on flap,posters on flap have rubbished him many times so he is trying his luck here.Honestly jd we are not as bad as he makes out.

Not a chance nicko. Scrat has rinsed these guys over there so many times that I would think he's just got bored with them - it does get boring after a while. But you have to keep going and go after the 'it's all Labour's fault' brigade that spout out so much nonsense and they can't get away with that.



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Post by Guest Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:52 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
scrat wrote:
Heimat chap, It is the duty of every Briton to make this life as best it can be for everyone, we have the capacity to achieve this and to do this better than any other nation on the face of this globe,,,,,what else can possibly be more worthy and achieveable?
So you approve of just handing out massive sums of money to those who refuse to get off their arses and go to work and make their own money?
Alan Milburn is a lying labour twat.
Enough money is dished out through child benefit and tax credits for every child in this country already.
It is cheaper to buy fresh And healthy foods and cook yourself to feed a family than it is to eat junk and take aways.
The problem lays with the parents.
And it costs nothing to go for a walk or run or for kids to exercise by playing any number of other games.



If it's wasting money we're talking about then maybe we should look at MP's , who for years have been enjoying a second purchased home, courtesy of the tax payer.

You only ever blame poor people and immigrants Tommy.

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Post by veya_victaous Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:00 am

nicko wrote:JD,i thought you were a intelligent poster,some of the time,but if you think scrat is a"good poster"   there's no hope for you pal.

that's not fair nicko, Scrat is a good poster just like you, maybe of different opinions but both of you put forward coherent arguments.  ::D:: 
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Post by Irn Bru Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:02 am

Joy Division wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
scrat wrote:
Heimat chap, It is the duty of every Briton to make this life as best it can be for everyone, we have the capacity to achieve this and to do this better than any other nation on the face of this globe,,,,,what else can possibly be more worthy and achieveable?
So you approve of just handing out massive sums of money to those who refuse to get off their arses and go to work and make their own money?
Alan Milburn is a lying labour twat.
Enough money is dished out through child benefit and tax credits for every child in this country already.
It is cheaper to buy fresh And healthy foods and cook yourself to feed a family than it is to eat junk and take aways.
The problem lays with the parents.
And it costs nothing to go for a walk or run or for kids to exercise by playing any number of other games.



If it's wasting money we're talking about then maybe we should look at MP's , who for years have been enjoying a second purchased home, courtesy   of the tax payer.

You only ever blame poor people and immigrants Tommy.

That's the Tory way JD. The immigrants, the poor, the disabled, the unemployed and the sick are all to blame for the state the country is in. It's their way and they say it because it's hard wired into them.
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