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Post by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:14 pm

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Christians shepherded into a church by armed men apparently for their safety died when those soldiers turned out to be Boko Haram fighters in disguise, who opened fire on the cowering crowd in their latest attack.

It was one of at least six different raids across northern Nigeria on Monday and Tuesday, when as many as 30 people died.

The attacks again illustrate the militants’ supremacy over Nigeria’s state security forces, who have made little progress in freeing more than 200 schoolgirls kidnapped close to two months ago.

Boko Haram's latest offensive came as it was reported Nigerian army officers have been convicted by courts martial for colluding with the al-Qaeda allied group, including providing them with weapons and secret intelligence.

Ten generals and five other senior officers were found guilty in the first of what were said to be several ongoing prosecutions of corrupt soldiers, Nigerian media reported.



The country's military, whose fighters are underpaid and often outgunned, has repeatedly faced allegations that both rank-and-file soldiers and officers were working with the enemy.

Key allegations include that they provided Boko Haram with weapons, or that telephone calls were made to the Islamists allowing them to prepare ambushes as military convoys drove past.

Some reports alleged that soldiers deserted their posts to fight alongside the militants before returning to their army bases in the evening. This could not be confirmed.

Maj. Gen. Chris Olukolade, the defense ministry spokesman, reissued an earlier statement, saying: "once again categorically that there is no truth whatsoever in the report".

Britain is among several nations offering assistance to the Nigerian government and its military to help find the missing schoolgirls.

Privately, Western security sector sources in the country report exasperation among those coming to help over the slow pace of the Nigerians' reactions to the kidnap crisis.

The girls are understood now to have been separated into several groups, making armed rescue of all the girls at the same time far more complicated and dangerous.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/10874389/Boko-Haram-attack-church-dressed-as-Nigeria-soldiers-as-dozens-are-killed-in-fresh-raids.html

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:06 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:


Illogical argument because it has one fatal flaw.

It is irrelevant if little such events happen by Christians today, it has a vast history of this happening for one simple reason. When this did happen, it was the religious and political elite that ruled society, which today now Christianity has little or no say in how a country is run. It still is though the religious and political elite that rules in most Muslim countries, which is why you still have problems, which over time will change like Christianity losing its influence.
So your point is utterly moot, both have a history of both followers using their religious books as justification to kill, non-believers, apostates, homosexuals, you ignore that fact and ignore the fact hardly any  religious or political elite have power anymore.

So again you should hate your own bible as it is little different to the punishments, commands and actual events of all this happening, in both books, both have had the same problem with followers.


Try again


lol the bible stated what it did for a time and a place, that is the biggest difference, the new testament shows peace, grace and mercy....

that is why you see Christians being peaceful... and why you could argue anyone who would kill is not following the bible..

the koran on the other hand remains exactly where it was written in barbaric times, it's example was a murdering peado, so it is hardly surprising still today and every day we see atrocities caused by the koran as it commands it's followers to kill non muslims, to kill apostates, to kill gays... Smile Smile 


No the bible does not state for a time and place, the Laws of Moses are seen as the laws of God, and Jesus even states not to change them, in fact never states any of them to be changed, thus it is you trying to deny biblical law. Again when religious and political elites of Christianity held power history shows they enacted this and even today with have many Christian Americans advocating Biblical Law for the US, the same people that like you believe in Creationism.

So your argument is utterly moot and by your own logic you thus should see your faith as evil, and disgusting based on your views of Islam, with them having the same commands

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:30 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:


lol the bible stated what it did for a time and a place, that is the biggest difference, the new testament shows peace, grace and mercy....

that is why you see Christians being peaceful... and why you could argue anyone who would kill is not following the bible..

the koran on the other hand remains exactly where it was written in barbaric times, it's example was a murdering peado, so it is hardly surprising still today and every day we see atrocities caused by the koran as it commands it's followers to kill non muslims, to kill apostates, to kill gays... Smile Smile 


No the bible does not state for a time and place, the Laws of Moses are seen as the laws of God, and Jesus even states not to change them, in fact never states any of them to be changed, thus it is you trying to deny biblical law. Again when religious and political elites of Christianity held power history shows they enacted this and even today with have many Christian Americans advocating Biblical Law for the US, the same people that like you believe in Creationism.

So your argument is utterly moot and by your own logic you thus should see your faith as evil, and disgusting based on your views of Islam, with them having the same commands

the law of moses, you mean thou shalt not kill one, lol so you claim that the law of moses is what make Christians kill people...


have you read your post didge...

but islam on the other hand does say kill apostates, kill non believers, and we see it every day .. Smile 

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:37 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:


No the bible does not state for a time and place, the Laws of Moses are seen as the laws of God, and Jesus even states not to change them, in fact never states any of them to be changed, thus it is you trying to deny biblical law. Again when religious and political elites of Christianity held power history shows they enacted this and even today with have many Christian Americans advocating Biblical Law for the US, the same people that like you believe in Creationism.

So your argument is utterly moot and by your own logic you thus should see your faith as evil, and disgusting based on your views of Islam, with them having the same commands

the law of moses, you mean thou shalt not kill one, lol so you claim that the law of moses is what make Christians kill people...


have you read your post didge...

but islam on the other hand does say kill apostates, kill non believers, and we see it every day .. Smile 


More laws than that, and yes it is part of what makes Christians kill as seen by history and proven by history.

An the bible does say say kill apostates, kill non believers, so again you must believe the bible is evil, unless now you are also claiming the bible is not the word of God, that Moses was not a prophet of your God and that Jesus is not God.

Try again

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:41 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

the law of moses, you mean thou shalt not kill one, lol so you claim that the law of moses is what make Christians kill people...


have you read your post didge...

but islam on the other hand does say kill apostates, kill non believers, and we see it every day .. Smile 


More laws than that, and yes it is part of what makes Christians kill as seen by history and proven by history.

An the bible does say say kill apostates, kill non believers, so again you must believe the bible is evil, unless now you are also claiming the bible is not the word of God, that Moses was not a prophet of your God and that Jesus is not God.

Try again

so you think laws from God like thou shalt not kill make them kill...lol how does that work out.... Smile 

why don't we see all Christians today killing people have we given up on the bible or something lol

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:42 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:


More laws than that, and yes it is part of what makes Christians kill as seen by history and proven by history.

An the bible does say say kill apostates, kill non believers, so again you must believe the bible is evil, unless now you are also claiming the bible is not the word of God, that Moses was not a prophet of your God and that Jesus is not God.

Try again

so you think laws from God like thou shalt not kill make them kill...lol how does that work out.... Smile 

why don't we see all Christians today killing people have we given up on the bible or something lol

With God contradicting himself to say it is okay to kill people as punishments, commanding them to do so.

The reason you see far less Christians kill today is many are in name only, of those who are still religious many believe in biblical law

So you need to try again

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:44 pm

Also it is irrelevant what you believe is true about the bible, what is relevant of those who do believe religiously in Christianity, many advocate biblical law, thus you cannot refute that people do.


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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:45 pm

PRINCETON, NJ -- Twenty-eight percent of Americans believe the Bible is the actual word of God and that it should be taken literally. This is somewhat below the 38% to 40% seen in the late 1970s, and near the all-time low of 27% reached in 2001 and 2009. But about half of Americans continue to say the Bible is the inspired word of God, not to be taken literally -- meaning a combined 75% believe the Bible is in some way connected to God. About one in five Americans view the Bible in purely secular terms -- as ancient fables, legends, history, and precepts written by man -- which is up from 13% in 1976.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/170834/three-four-bible-word-god.aspx

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:57 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

so you think laws from God like thou shalt not kill make them kill...lol how does that work out.... Smile 

why don't we see all Christians today killing people have we given up on the bible or something lol

With God contradicting himself to say it is okay to kill people as punishments, commanding them to do so.

The reason you see far less Christians kill today is many are in name only, of those who are still religious many believe in biblical law

So you need to try again

lol God does not contradict himself, he speaks to specific people for a specific time within the bible such as during the exodus and finding the promise land ...

people who believe int he bible do not kill because they are commanded not to, it is about peace. Grace and mercy.

the koran on the other hand is just a command to kill gays, non believers, apostates and that is what we see every day...

sad for the muslims but very true xx

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:02 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:

With God contradicting himself to say it is okay to kill people as punishments, commanding them to do so.

The reason you see far less Christians kill today is many are in name only, of those who are still religious many believe in biblical law

So you need to try again

lol God does not contradict himself, he speaks to specific people for a specific time within the bible such as during the exodus and finding the promise land ...

people who believe int he bible do not kill because they are commanded not to, it is about peace. Grace and mercy.

the koran on the other hand is just a command to kill gays, non believers, apostates and that is what we see every day...

sad for the muslims but very true xx


You see you are in way over your head on this because you are just giving me your view on what you think the bible says, as seen many Americans disagree with you and take what is said in the bible literally, do you know what that word means?
So thus again, what is good is many Christians today are mainly not religious anymore, but of those who still are, if in power,t hey would advocate biblical law, and even this is backed by many of them actually saying they want this.

So you can give your views all day long, but to other Christians they see the bible as being right to kill gays.

So you need to try again

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:08 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

lol God does not contradict himself, he speaks to specific people for a specific time within the bible such as during the exodus and finding the promise land ...

people who believe int he bible do not kill because they are commanded not to, it is about peace. Grace and mercy.

the koran on the other hand is just a command to kill gays, non believers, apostates and that is what we see every day...

sad for the muslims but very true xx


You see you are in way over your head on this because you are just giving me your view on what you think the bible says, as seen many Americans disagree with you and take what is said in the bible literally, do you know what that word means?
So thus again, what is good is many Christians today are mainly not religious anymore, but of those who still are, if in power,t hey would advocate biblical law, and even this is backed by many of them actually saying they want this.

So you can give your views all day long, but to other Christians they see the bible as being right to kill gays.

So you need to try again

lol but it simple can't be just me who sees it that way can it because you don't see Christians killing anyone all the time and you don't see Christians killing gays or apostates.. so perhaps you have it wrong..

but to use your point we do see muslims all the time killing non believers, killing apostates, killing gays, so what do you think they are reading to get their ideas??

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:12 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:


You see you are in way over your head on this because you are just giving me your view on what you think the bible says, as seen many Americans disagree with you and take what is said in the bible literally, do you know what that word means?
So thus again, what is good is many Christians today are mainly not religious anymore, but of those who still are, if in power,t hey would advocate biblical law, and even this is backed by many of them actually saying they want this.

So you can give your views all day long, but to other Christians they see the bible as being right to kill gays.

So you need to try again

lol but it simple can't be just me who sees it that way can it because you don't see Christians killing anyone all the time and you don't see Christians killing gays or apostates.. so perhaps you have it wrong..

but to use your point we do see muslims all the time killing non believers, killing apostates, killing gays, so what do you think they are reading to get their ideas??


Yes because as stated you do not see so much anymore, because for vastly mainy are not as religious anymore, many in name only, and of the ones that still are, not only do they advocate the the biblical laws, but we see some of those acting out on them.
So again you have a moot point and if as you believe in regards to your views on Islam, even though like you people have different interpretations, that we then use the logic you have to condemn a religion based on the actions and views of its followers throughout both their history and today. Then your religion is to you evil, because I am using the same exact logic you are using on Islam.

So you need to try again

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:17 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

lol but it simple can't be just me who sees it that way can it because you don't see Christians killing anyone all the time and you don't see Christians killing gays or apostates.. so perhaps you have it wrong..

but to use your point we do see muslims all the time killing non believers, killing apostates, killing gays, so what do you think they are reading to get their ideas??


Yes because as stated you do not see so much anymore, because for vastly mainy are not as religious anymore, many in name only, and of the ones that still are, not only do they advocate the the biblical laws, but we see some of those acting out on them.
So again you have a moot point and if as you believe in regards to your views on Islam, even though like you people have different interpretations, that we then use the logic you have to condemn a religion based on the actions and views of its followers throughout both their history and today. Then your religion is to you evil, because I am using the same exact logic you are using on Islam.

So you need to try again

you don't see Christians killing at all any that do are not following the bible, you said yourself the laws say don't kill, we know we see muslims killing all the time so we can only assume that it must be their teaching which causes them to want to kill infidels, gays, apostates that sort of thing...

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:23 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Didge wrote:


Yes because as stated you do not see so much anymore, because for vastly mainy are not as religious anymore, many in name only, and of the ones that still are, not only do they advocate the the biblical laws, but we see some of those acting out on them.
So again you have a moot point and if as you believe in regards to your views on Islam, even though like you people have different interpretations, that we then use the logic you have to condemn a religion based on the actions and views of its followers throughout both their history and today. Then your religion is to you evil, because I am using the same exact logic you are using on Islam.

So you need to try again

you don't see Christians killing at all any that do are not following the bible, you said yourself the laws say don't kill, we know we see muslims killing all the time so we can only assume that it must be their teaching which causes them to want to kill infidels, gays, apostates that sort of thing...


I stated the laws show contradictions and that Christians view such laws to kill as punishments, you disagree giving your interpretation just as Muslims give their interpretation on their book, which has no validity to the logic you are proposing on Islam being evil because with this logic yours is too. The books both have commands to kill and both have history and even today of people acting out these commands and wanting this religious commands. The only difference today being vastly many more Christians are not very religious.
Thus your point is moot unless you now believe religions have different interpretations and would only be based upon how an individual views and not on the views of how some view that religion, otherwise by your own logic your religion is evil too you.

I do love this because you are trapped and cannot get out of the poor argument you have presented because it backfires on your own faith, is amusing watching mind.

Try again

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:52 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Did Jesus ever kill anyone or advocate the killing of anyone...?
Not at all.
Did Mohammed ever kill anyone or advocate the killing of anyone?
Completely at every opportunity and commanded to others as a requirement of achieving Islamic domination.
Now the question remains.... what is an example of a proper Muslim?
I asked dodge months ago to tell me what Islamic country is a good example of 'right' or 'proper' Islam.....
And after weeks of asking without any reply....... he came back with..........
SENEGAL!!!!!!
Now how the fuck do you work that out..!!!???
Not any of the main and founding countries of Islam, Or the most religious of followers known to this world, not anywhere where the 'religion'originated or where the oldest mosques and Muslim scriptures are held, but a tiny war torn west African state about as far away as possible!!!
Maybe Ben, YOU can tell us what Islamic country YOU think is a good example of 'right' or 'proper' Islam....????
That this example of 'right' Islam that we might be able to judge all other Muslims by????
lol!
Laughing
In your own time......
And I'm sure it will be a while before you dare to reply, if at all it fact....!!!!
You lefties are quick to tell us what Islam is not, maybe you can clarify this point to let us know what Islam actually is....!!!????
lol!
.......????
DID Jesus's Disciples ever advocate killing
YES they most certainly DID
And NO Mohamed DID not Advocate killing and More than Jesus Possibly did
NO ONE HAS A SINGLE WORD WRITTEN BY JESUS!!!!
Simon Advocated Armed Resistance and the killing of non Christians, Christians were still murdering Shaman and other native spiritual leaders until about 130 years ago!!!!!
When Soldiers came to take Mohammed away (or kill him) did he fight? NO he converted them to Islam,
When With said Soldiers he approached Mecca Did he lay Siege..... No he walked a circle about the City and left and did the same 3 years in a row before Mecca submitted and proclaimed him the Prophet of God.
Same Question to you!!! Name A Christian Country that is Actually Christian and Not Secular that isn't completely evil?
I'll think you will find before secularism Christians Were Murdering Assholes that Burnt people alive for disagreeing with them.
Again there is no GOOD country that is Islamic just like there has NEVER been a GOOD country that is Christian!!!!
AND you are as Stupid as VOD and HF, it is Obvious that you have NEVER read a Koran or A BIBLE as no one that has would ever suggest the Koran has more killing, torture and brutality than the Bible Because it doesn't!!!! Just like the Old testament is more brutal than the new testament the Koran (3rd testament) is less brutal Again!!!!!
READ THE FUCKING THING IF YOU WANT TO GO MAKE CLAIMS!!!!!! I'm seriously getting sick of people that say Such and such say this with out providing any evidenced and one that has read will Disagree with. Why the Fuck are you debating something you haven't even made and effort to  read?????



Oooohh!!!!


Looks like I touched a nerve there!!!!



LOads of venom and waffle but no answer to the question!!!




We know that there are loads of Islamic countries who follow their guide book 'religiously' throughout the whole of their society and systems, but you cannot name a single one that is a good example of 'right' or 'proper' Islam...????


Why is that????


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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:54 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
DID Jesus's Disciples ever advocate killing
YES they most certainly DID
And NO Mohamed DID not Advocate killing and More than Jesus Possibly did
NO ONE HAS A SINGLE WORD WRITTEN BY JESUS!!!!
Simon Advocated Armed Resistance and the killing of non Christians, Christians were still murdering Shaman and other native spiritual leaders until about 130 years ago!!!!!
When Soldiers came to take Mohammed away (or kill him) did he fight? NO he converted them to Islam,
When With said Soldiers he approached Mecca Did he lay Siege..... No he walked a circle about the City and left and did the same 3 years in a row before Mecca submitted and proclaimed him the Prophet of God.
Same Question to you!!! Name A Christian Country that is Actually Christian and Not Secular that isn't completely evil?
I'll think you will find before secularism Christians Were Murdering Assholes that Burnt people alive for disagreeing with them.
Again there is no GOOD country that is Islamic just like there has NEVER been a GOOD country that is Christian!!!!
AND you are as Stupid as VOD and HF, it is Obvious that you have NEVER read a Koran or A BIBLE as no one that has would ever suggest the Koran has more killing, torture and brutality than the Bible Because it doesn't!!!! Just like the Old testament is more brutal than the new testament the Koran (3rd testament) is less brutal Again!!!!!
READ THE FUCKING THING IF YOU WANT TO GO MAKE CLAIMS!!!!!! I'm seriously getting sick of people that say Such and such say this with out providing any evidenced and one that has read will Disagree with. Why the Fuck are you debating something you haven't even made and effort to  read?????



Oooohh!!!!


Looks like I touched a nerve there!!!!



LOads of venom and waffle but no answer to the question!!!




We know that there are loads of Islamic countries who follow their guide book 'religiously' throughout the whole of their society and systems, but you cannot name a single one that is a good example of 'right' or 'proper' Islam...????


Why is that????




Nerve?
More like he just proved you are an idiot on religion.

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:16 pm

We have had your answer already..........




SENEGAL!!!!


lol!




Why you didn't name any of the main Muslim countries, or the place where Islam originated, I'll never know!!!!!




Or maybe I do know...... and so do you!!!!



lol!


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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:18 pm

No you have failed to answer my points here, which is why you now deflect and why it is so amusing to once laugh again at how badly you are so ignorant of religion and walk yourself into making yourself look so utterly stupid!

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:29 pm

Didge wrote:No you have failed to answer my points here, which is why you now deflect and why it is so amusing to once laugh again at how badly you are so ignorant of religion and walk yourself into making yourself look so utterly stupid!

I think you are the stupid one didge , just answer him  ::D:: 

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:31 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Didge wrote:No you have failed to answer my points here, which is why you now deflect and why it is so amusing to once laugh again at how badly you are so ignorant of religion and walk yourself into making yourself look so utterly stupid!

I think you are the stupid one didge , just answer him  ::D:: 

He needs to answer mine which will give him his answer, quite simply really Dibs, I know you like to avoid so many points as well as Matti, but this is what he always does.


My points still stand, you need to refute them

Good luck

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:34 pm

You do an awful lot of sticking up for Islam considering you claim to be a non practicing Christian.....



We already have Didge's answer.......



SENEGAL!!!!!


lol!


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Tommy Monk wrote:You do an awful lot of sticking up for Islam considering you claim to be a non practicing Christian.....



We already have Didge's answer.......



SENEGAL!!!!!


lol!




Once again yet more deflection with no attempt to take on my points and now thinks I am Christian when I am an atheist, proving he never reads anyone's posts.

Like I said very amusing and how he always walks into making himself look so utterly stupid.

Great entertainment

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:46 pm

lol i've answered you time and time again, you said the bible laws say do not kill, you said that is what makes Christians kill..lol no sense at all in there...

people who follow the bible do not kill because it says do not kill, if they do they are not following the bible so they are not Christians at all..

the muslims as we know do kill, we see it every day, why do they kill because the koran tells them to...

it is quite simple xx

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:50 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lol i've answered you time and time again, you said the bible laws say do not kill, you said that is what makes Christians kill..lol no sense at all in there...

people who follow the bible do not kill because it says do not kill, if they do they are not following the bible so they are not Christians at all..

the muslims as we know do kill, we see it every day, why do they kill because the koran tells them to...

it is quite simple xx

No all you have done is proven that the bible is evil also using the same logic you have applied onto the Quran, the point is you know you have been proven yourself that the bibles is evil, because you cannot and are unable to counter that, why your replies are taking longer and longer, as if you are seeking advice.
So based on your logic any extremists are not Muslims, because in the Quran it instructs not to kill innocents, using your logic then on who is and who is not a Christian.

You need to try again

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:55 pm

Dodge, you have said numerous times that you were born and raised a Christian but now no longer practice this.
And you have no points.
I have asked Ben and veya to name an Islamic country that is a good example of 'right' or 'proper' Islam.
Still waiting....
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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:03 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge, you have said numerous times that you were born and raised a Christian but now no longer practice this.
And you have no points.
I have asked Ben and veya to name an Islamic country that is a good example of 'right' or 'proper' Islam.
Still waiting....

Yes i was once a Christian and now am Atheist, that does not mean I am a Christian in name only, fucking hell that is hilarious, you thought that still made me a Christian.

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You can ask about countries all you like, it further goes onto my point on where religious and Political beliefs hold sway of power, and how the same was the case with Christianity, where now they do not have the religious and political elites have power, one of the many points you are unable to answer.
BY your logic a good example of Christianity would be when it was ruled by religious and political elites showing what happens when religion is control, thus mooting your point, because thus all religions are the same when religious elites hold sway. The reality is people have moved away from being so religious in the west which is starting to happen with Muslims, even more so in the west, all we see then is one point, about how long will it take for this to happen in Muslim majority countries, as it is not a case of if, but when.

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Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge, you have said numerous times that you were born and raised a Christian but now no longer practice this.
And you have no points.
I have asked Ben and veya to name an Islamic country that is a good example of 'right' or 'proper' Islam.
Still waiting....



Tommy, you often say this...' I'm still waiting' but when you do get an answer all you do is close your eyes and ears and continue on with unfounded claims.

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:19 pm

Didge wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lol i've answered you time and time again, you said the bible laws say do not kill, you said that is what makes Christians kill..lol no sense at all in there...

people who follow the bible do not kill because it says do not kill, if they do they are not following the bible so they are not Christians at all..

the muslims as we know do kill, we see it every day, why do they kill because the koran tells them to...

it is quite simple xx

No all you have done is proven that the bible is evil also using the same logic you have applied onto the Quran, the point is you know you have been proven yourself that the bibles is evil, because you cannot and are unable to counter that, why your replies are taking longer and longer, as if you are seeking advice.
So based on your logic any extremists are not Muslims, because in the Quran it instructs not to kill innocents, using your logic then on who is and who is not a Christian.

You need to try again

so i have proved and you agreed that the bible says don't kill, so you think not killing makes you evil... Smile 

so how evil does that make the koran that does say kill... Smile 

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:21 pm

So you are a Christian who no longer practices the religion.
That is what I said.
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Tommy Monk wrote:So you are a Christian who no longer practices the religion.
That is what I said.
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:24 pm

JD, can you see anywhere here where anyone has named a Muslim country that is a good example of 'right' or 'proper' Islam????
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Dodge, you were born and raised a Christian?



But now no longer practice the religion.




This is what you constantly say.



Is it not?
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Hilarious, so tell me Matti, how can an atheist be a Christian?

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:29 pm

So Matti still uses deflection to get away from taking on the points.

How many more poor posts will we see before he tries.


Getting boring now, may have to let you keep posting looking even more silly

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:41 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:JD, can you see anywhere here where anyone has named a Muslim country that is a good example of 'right' or 'proper' Islam????


..that's because nearly or every country has halfwits , big time criminals and terrorists Tommy, things also become distorted too.


You can't deny though,,,every Islamic country has a large proportion of good Muslims.

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What points?
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:46 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:Westbro church don't blow people up or fly planes into tower blocks, yes they picket funerals and target homosexuals, they even tell me i am going to hell because i don't hold their views .
but islam is violent compared to the Westbro church .

Christians in the U.S. have committed bombings and murders in the name of Christ.
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lovedust wrote:
And Christians in the Lord's Resistance Army have committed murders, abductions and muilations in the "name" of Christ.

LRA are not Christians -Christians do not kill = FACT
you can try and make islam look good all you like but the fact is islam is a disgusting evil religion with daily honour killings, murders of infidels sentencing pregnant women to death for not being a muslim . You can never convince us who can see the religion for it is (evil) that it has anything good because it does not .


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lovedust wrote:
And Christians in the Lord's Resistance Army have committed murders, abductions and muilations in the "name" of Christ.

lol and you think they are Christians .... is that the best you can do... Smile 

and does that balance against the daily reports of the evil of islam...

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Vicar of Dibley wrote:
lovedust wrote:
And Christians in the Lord's Resistance Army have committed murders, abductions and muilations in the "name" of Christ.

you can try and make islam look good all you like but the fact is islam is a disgusting evil religion with daily honour killings, murders of infidels sentencing pregnant women to death for not being a muslim . You can never convince us who can see the religion for it is (evil) that it has anything good because it does not .

... You didn't address my point?

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:12 pm

lovedust wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

you can try and make islam look good all you like but the fact is islam is a disgusting evil religion with daily honour killings, murders of infidels sentencing pregnant women to death for not being a muslim . You can never convince us who can see the religion for it is (evil) that it has anything good because it does not .

... You didn't address my point?

you didn't make a point you tried to compare the LRA with islam , LRA are not Christians -Christians do not kill = FACT

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:16 pm

Guys , your missing the point here...there is no race, belief, colour or any other of people who are better than anyone else!!

There is no superior or inferior.

Christians have killed too as LD already said.

Obviously killing from both ends is wrong.


And many countries have bad individuals, but that never means all people in that country are bad.

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Joy Division wrote:Guys , your missing the point here...there is no race, belief, colour or any other of people who are better than anyone else!!

There is no superior or inferior.

Christians have killed too as LD already said.

Obviously killing from both ends is wrong.

islam are in the news daily with more atrocities which proves the point that islam is not a religion of peace ....simples  Wink 

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:20 pm

Joy Division wrote:Guys , your missing the point here...there is no race, belief, colour or any other of people who are better than anyone else!!

There is no superior or inferior.

Christians have killed too as LD already said.

Obviously killing from both ends is wrong.

you miss the biggest difference, the bible says don't kill so are anyone that kills following the bible, if they are not following the bible are they even Christians..

the koran says kill, we know it says this because every day we see muslims kill...so muslims actually follow what their book says by killing ...

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:20 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
lovedust wrote:

... You didn't address my point?

you didn't make a point you tried to compare the LRA with islam , LRA are not Christians -Christians do not kill = FACT

Anders Breivik was a Christian who killed. The crusaders were Christians who killed. Abortion clinic bombers in the US are Christians who kill...

I'm sure you know all this already?

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:22 pm

LRA is nothing to do with Jesus.
http://www.warchild.org.uk/issues/the-lords-resistance-army
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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:22 pm

lovedust wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

you didn't make a point you tried to compare the LRA with islam , LRA are not Christians -Christians do not kill = FACT

Anders Breivik was a Christian who killed. The crusaders were Christians who killed. Abortion clinic bombers in the US are Christians who kill...

I'm sure you know all this already?

they claimed to be Christians but then they did what the bible says don't do, so where they really Christians at all..

but we know the koran says to kill and we see the actions of muslims every day...

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I'm sure Anders Breivik is a freemason

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:28 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:LRA is nothing to do with Jesus.
http://www.warchild.org.uk/issues/the-lords-resistance-army

correct , but any mention of Jesus, and those who will go to any lengths to defend islam just assume they are Christians  Razz 

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