CHAV ALERT!!!!!!!!!

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Look at this stupid little racist fool trying the cheek up and throw racks it insult to the two Rastas ...he was lucky they were so forgiving...


https://youtu.be/3BZk8zP5g7w


Chav Britain are the two keywords here.

Ben_Reilly wrote:"Thug" is being used as the new n-word by American racists:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/richard-sherman-is-right-thug-is-the-new-n-world.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/01/25/maher_racism_has_gone_underground_in_this_country_thug_is_the_new_n-word.html

http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2014/feb/19/thug-new-n-word/

Plenty more links where that came from.

Funny thing is, when BA first used it and asked him not to and explained the situation to him, he was just like, "Oh, sorry, didn't know that was the case" and seemed fine with it. Just now do I learn he's been seething inside for months about it ...

Americans need to stop ruining words  :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-: 






Thug is a semi complement in Blacktown.  ://?roflmao?/: ::resmahauth:: ::resmahauth:: 

Da KL Boys : THUG LIFE

They're ignoring my memos, Veya!

Veya, no comparison between the two.


Australia is empty of people compared to geographic area, completely based on immigration to it, and wanting more.



Britain is full, doesn't want any more.



And Ben, a thug is a thug.


Not distinguished by race colour or religion, but by actions as defined.


The word originates in India, to describe certain people by their behaviour.



Not to describe ALL Indian people or any Indian people who are not behaving within the given definition.



And I'm sure that here the label is used the same, applying to those who behave within the description of definition.


In America, you will have people of all backgrounds who behave in the same way and are rightly labeled as such.


It is therefore a label of behaviour, not of race.



Although, checking your crime figures/prison population by race will clearly show that a disproportionate amount of a certain racial group behave like thugs and are quite rightly labeled as such.



You cannot lance a boil on the arse by tickling feet with feathers......!!!



How many more elephants can you fit in your room.....???












Anybody who

Ignore the 'anybody who' bit, typo, can't be bothered to edit.....

@TM




LIVE with out water!!!!!!! why do you English men find it so hard to understand you need more than Just SPACE to live and you have plenty of Space (you have only urbanised 7%) and water.

Irrelevant waffle.



Answer the points.



We have plenty of land, arable farm land and water through our climate of rain, so = some of the best natural farm land on the planet....


This needs preserving so we can provide crops and food for our people and for others.


Common sense.



We have limited resources, as we are a tiny island.



We have enough people here already, we don't want or need any more.



Enough is enough.



People can go elsewhere or stay in their own vast countries.



There is no reason for any more of them to be coming here.

@TM
you don't get that choice any more than you let the native Americans or Aboriginals make that choice. The World is Moving, you either move with it or be crushed.

THEN why don't you farm properly? Why do you get such shit yields? you are right you have really good farm land but Shit people and tech working it so it is pointless you having it. You sort of just prove WHY you need immigrants and dramatic change, YOUR traditions are shit, slow inefficient unprofitable complete archaic rubbish. You would not even have any agriculture if your gov't didn't protect your farmers with tariffs. That they way England(and Europe) has been doing it for 40 years, Some one is more efficient? slap a tax on their goods and let the farmer keep doing 'traditionally' aka 'slow and inefficient'

you have MORE resources than Japan that is twice your population density in fact there are 52 nations that have put more people in the same amount of space.

And you seem to forget English People still migrate everywhere, ohh typical Anglo NIMBY (not in my back yard) yet happy to fuck up everyone else's. Time ENGLAND actually did something and repay the world for all the wealth it stole. (and has pissed away)

Racist!!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:Racist!!!!

Left Winger         

It wasn't just British people who moved to America, and then the people there said bollocks to Britain and did their own thing.


So the people responsible for anything that happened since and those there themselves.

And similar happened in Australia.




While here in UK, the majority of people, my family and ancestors included, were subjugated by the ruling classes too.


We fought hard for our freedoms and rights, and value our self rule by democratic process, and don't want to be subjugated again by an unwanted and undemocratic EU dictatorship.



That is our choice, and our right to decide.



Anyone denying us this fundamental principle is a traitor to this country and our people.

England fought against Democracy for most of History! You do realise that is why you still have royals.. and France has the guillotine   

And Aussies.. who were sentenced to Australia or death???? yeah pretty sure that was still the British fault.
and until ww2 almost everything here was owned by BRITISH lords, meaning all the profit was getting sent to England !!!!

You are confusing the ruling elite with everybody else here who was subjugated and fought for the freedoms and democracy we have (or should I say had until it was given away to EU by our treacherous politicians)......

TM, my whole point about my "memo" was that I don't control the use of language in the U.S. Of course, people of all races can act like thugs. They can also go on to fucking grow up and become productive members of society, but the more we "crack down" on them and give them no second chances, the more likely they are to stay the way they are.

Fact is, here in the U.S., a lot of racists have taken to using the word "thug" where they used to use the n-word in referring to people like Trayvon Martin, who was given until the ripe old age of 17 to figure out how he should conduct himself.

I think you are like me in that you would like to see the world be a better place, so let me ask you this -- what historical examples can you name of minorities being denigrated and stigmatized within societies that led to those societies improving? That sort of thing leads to revolts and war, not improvement.

A thug is a thug by actions, not by race.



And are you seriously suggesting that thugs are people who have not yet grown up......???




And it is somehow everybody else's fault that they behave like thugs and continue behaving like thugs?





Thug behaviour results in Being labelled as 'a thug', and if blacks are massively disproportionately more responsible for thug like behaviour, then a higher proportion of them will be labelled as such.



Simple cause and effect.



It is not racist to label certain behaviour with a descriptive noun.



If people are acting like thugs then they will be labelled as such.



Don't behave like a thug and you won't be called a thug.

1) Yes, I think people get up to all sorts of bad behavior and then grow up.

2) I never said it was the fault of anything besides human nature itself. We're a young species in which males are still mostly selected to be warriors, but with fewer and fewer wars to fight and a value system that no longer values dominance and strength.

3) No race of people is disproportionately responsible for bad behavior if you consider the human population as a whole.

4) Racists have indeed used the word "thug" almost exclusively to describe young black people they don't like in the U.S. Some of those people deserve the label; all of them certainly do not.

Ben_Reilly wrote:TM, my whole point about my "memo" was that I don't control the use of language in the U.S. Of course, people of all races can act like thugs. They can also go on to fucking grow up and become productive members of society, but the more we "crack down" on them and give them no second chances, the more likely they are to stay the way they are.

Fact is, here in the U.S., a lot of racists have taken to using the word "thug" where they used to use the n-word in referring to people like Trayvon Martin, who was given until the ripe old age of 17 to figure out how he should conduct himself.

I think you are like me in that you would like to see the world be a better place, so let me ask you this -- what historical examples can you name of minorities being denigrated and stigmatized within societies that led to those societies improving? That sort of thing leads to revolts and war, not improvement.

They used that word for Trayvon because he was black? I thought it was because of him hitting George Zimmerman or whatever. There's going to be a lot of confusion if the word "thug" now means different things. To me it's a perfectly normal word with no racist meaning whatsoever. I don't think people can tread on any more eggshells really.

If (some) blacks are behaving like thugs then they are quite rightly described as such.




Just like anyone else of any colour/race was behaving like a thug then they would quite rightly be labelled as such too.



If more blacks are being labelled as 'thug', then maybe it is because more blacks are behaving like thugs.



And trying to prevent a thug being called a thug to hide the truth and protect the sensitivities of thugs doesn't help anything.

veya_victaous wrote:England fought against Democracy for most of History!  You do realise that is why you still have royals.. and France has the guillotine   

And Aussies.. who were sentenced to Australia or death???? yeah pretty sure that was still the British fault.
and until ww2 almost everything here was owned by BRITISH lords, meaning all the profit was getting sent to England !!!!

She is your Queenie too

You don't like the English very much do you Veya, it comes across in a lot of your posts,i wonder why?

nicko wrote:You don't like the English very much do you Veya, it comes across in a lot of your posts,i wonder why?

what are you talking about     i love the British     
Without them we'd only have New Zealanders to pick on      

Tommy Monk wrote:You are confusing the ruling elite with everybody else here who was subjugated and fought for the freedoms and democracy we have (or should I say had until it was given away to EU by our treacherous politicians)......

OHHH RIGHT       

Roll on then


         

@TM
More seriously on that you are probably right but it is a Europe wide problem (almost world wide really, but hitting Europe hard).
 :::grouch::  :::grouch::  :::grouch:: 
Too Much Wealth in too few hands (and in Europe's case not enough of those hands are connected to Entrepreneurs)

You should band together  ::D:: 
VIVA LA REVOLUTION
 :asbluras: 

Ben_Reilly wrote:TM, my whole point about my "memo" was that I don't control the use of language in the U.S. Of course, people of all races can act like thugs. They can also go on to fucking grow up and become productive members of society, but the more we "crack down" on them and give them no second chances, the more likely they are to stay the way they are.

Fact is, here in the U.S., a lot of racists have taken to using the word "thug" where they used to use the n-word in referring to people like Trayvon Martin, who was given until the ripe old age of 17 to figure out how he should conduct himself.

I think you are like me in that you would like to see the world be a better place, so let me ask you this -- what historical examples can you name of minorities being denigrated and stigmatized within societies that led to those societies improving? That sort of thing leads to revolts and war, not improvement.

I got it    ben    Don't worry   

Tommy Monk wrote:If (some) blacks are behaving like thugs then they are quite rightly described as such.




Just like anyone else of any colour/race was behaving like a thug then they would quite rightly be labelled as such too.



If more blacks are being labelled as 'thug', then maybe it is because more blacks are behaving like thugs.



And trying to prevent a thug being called a thug to hide the truth and protect the sensitivities of thugs doesn't help anything.

Correct    in the CIVILIZED world       

Ben is talking about in America   

Ben_Reilly wrote:"Thug" is being used as the new n-word by American racists:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/richard-sherman-is-right-thug-is-the-new-n-world.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/01/25/maher_racism_has_gone_underground_in_this_country_thug_is_the_new_n-word.html

http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2014/feb/19/thug-new-n-word/

Plenty more links where that came from.

Funny thing is, when BA first used it and asked him not to and explained the situation to him, he was just like, "Oh, sorry, didn't know that was the case" and seemed fine with it. Just now do I learn he's been seething inside for months about it ...

Oh sorry,I didn't know that. I won't use the word if it has aquired a racist connotation.  

In the UK a thug just means a nasty bloke who gets physical and fights,regardless of colour.

veya_victaous wrote:

nicko wrote:You don't like the English very much do you Veya, it comes across in a lot of your posts,i wonder why?

what are you talking about     i love the British     
Without them we'd only have New Zealanders to pick on      

Veya,do you dislike the British or the English?

Us Celts are very different to the English you see,I shall not have us all lumped together   

FluffyBunny wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

what are you talking about     i love the British     
Without them we'd only have New Zealanders to pick on      

Veya,do you dislike the British or the English?

Us Celts are very different to the English you see,I shall not have us all lumped together   

Absolutely Fluffy!  

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
what a complete load of bollocks you just wrote JD, look around you and see that everything English is being slowly taken away .

 ::D:: 

AND the delusional and vacuous UnChristian dog DVo yaps on...

Lone Wolf wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
what a complete load of bollocks you just wrote JD, look around you and see that everything English is being slowly taken away .

 ::D:: 

AND the delusional and vacuous UnChristian dog DVo yaps on...

  

I just love when your around Bee!  

Joy Division wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:
 ::D:: 

AND the delusional and vacuous UnChristian dog DVo yaps on...

  

I just love when your around Bee!  

yes you do because all idiots attract each other have fun you goons      

Lone Wolf wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
what a complete load of bollocks you just wrote JD, look around you and see that everything English is being slowly taken away .

 ::D:: 

AND the delusional and vacuous UnChristian dog DVo yaps on...

the village idiot just keeps on entertaining us      

Joy Division wrote:

FluffyBunny wrote:
Veya,do you dislike the British or the English?
Us Celts are very different to the English you see,I shall not have us all lumped together   

Absolutely Fluffy!  

But you lefties keep banging on about how we're all the same.... so that makes you a racist against English and a hypocrite!!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Joy Division wrote:
Absolutely Fluffy!  

But you lefties keep banging on about how we're all the same.... so that makes you a racist against English and a hypocrite!!!!

Ffs Tommy, this is getting desperate!..racist against English?  

I like to swap minor banter and wind ups with some English now and again, but definitely nothing more man!!

Our soldiers have fought and died together in past wars Tommy, your well off the mark chief, honest!


But I'm Scottish and British Tommy, just like you are English and British..

Tommy Monk wrote:

Joy Division wrote:
Absolutely Fluffy!  

But you lefties keep banging on about how we're all the same.... so that makes you a racist against English and a hypocrite!!!!

I wasn't being serious! I DO think we are all the same and equal really.All I will say truthfully is that when I lived in England they seemed a bit stuck up in general.

I see everyone as equal regardless of gender,colour etc.

FluffyBunny wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:




But you lefties keep banging on about how we're all the same.... so that makes you a racist against English and a hypocrite!!!!

I wasn't being serious! I DO think we are all the same and equal really.All I will say truthfully is that when I lived in England they seemed a bit stuck up in general.

I see everyone as equal regardless of gender,colour etc.

We are lovely, honest.

 

TOMMY has to keep on proving just how ignorant, stupid and clueless he is, doesn't he !?!

THE English are not a "race"..

SO how can one be "racist" against English people ? Caucasian or "White" people, yes - but the English people.. NO...

 

English is an ethnicity in its own right.

Lone Wolf wrote: 

TOMMY has to keep on proving just how ignorant, stupid and clueless he is, doesn't he !?!

THE English are not a "race"..

SO how can one be "racist" against English people ?  Caucasian or "White" people, yes - but the English people..  NO...

 

  

I understand perfectly well.


I am using the same logic to define racism as the lefties, who claim that being opposed to white European open door immigration, and flood of eastern Europeans is 'racist'.



So it follows that Scottish and Welsh defining themselves as different to English and their dislike of English (although we are all white British), is racism by the same logic.