UKIP founder says party has become a 'Frankenstein's monster'
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UKIP founder says party has become a 'Frankenstein's monster'
The founder of Ukip is trying to prove to me that, when he was in charge, the party wasn't racist. He's also trying to demonstrate that his Ukip wouldn't have had its snout in the European parliament's expenses trough, unlike its 2014 incarnation. "I had one here not so long ago," says Alan Sked, professor of international history at the London School of Economics, as he searches for a membership application form as evidence.
It's a tough task: his office, the LSE's Room E503, is a stranger to the declutterer's art – it's not so much overwhelmed with books and papers as booby-trapped by them.
Room E503 is historically significant for modern British politics. It was here that Sked formed the Anti-Federalist League in 1991; here, in 1993, that the Anti-Federalist League became the UK Independence Party. It is here, too, that Sked is dreaming up his third British political party. Called New Deal, its aim is to do to Labour what Ukip did to the Tories – embarrass it electorally and whip up latent euroscepticism. He's considering standing against Ed Miliband in Doncaster in next year's general election.
But, first, where is that piece of paper? "You see," Sked says as he hunts, "up until 1997 I managed to keep Ukip a liberal – with a small 'l' – centre, moderate party. Our membership application form from the time – ah, here it is! – shows how much it has changed."
He hands me the form. It makes for fascinating reading. In 1993, along with backing British withdrawal from the EU, prospective members had to be sympathetic to the following: "It is a non-sectarian, non-racist party with no prejudices against foreigners or lawful minorities of any kind. It does not recognise the legitimacy of the European parliament and will send representatives only to the British parliament in Westminster."
"They got rid of all that after I left," says Sked, who resigned the leadership shortly after the 1997 general election. He claims that the tolerant, liberal and democratic party he founded was taken over by rightwingers and that, outgunned and outmanoeuvred by Farage and other leading figures after that election, he had no alternative but to quit.
"They took out the bit about no prejudices against lawful minorities and, as soon as I disappeared, they all decided they wanted to go to the European parliament and take their expenses."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/26/ukip-founder-alan-sked-party-become-frankensteins-monster
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Ben_Reilly wrote:The founder of Ukip is trying to prove to me that, when he was in charge, the party wasn't racist. He's also trying to demonstrate that his Ukip wouldn't have had its snout in the European parliament's expenses trough, unlike its 2014 incarnation. "I had one here not so long ago," says Alan Sked, professor of international history at the London School of Economics, as he searches for a membership application form as evidence.
It's a tough task: his office, the LSE's Room E503, is a stranger to the declutterer's art – it's not so much overwhelmed with books and papers as booby-trapped by them.
Room E503 is historically significant for modern British politics. It was here that Sked formed the Anti-Federalist League in 1991; here, in 1993, that the Anti-Federalist League became the UK Independence Party. It is here, too, that Sked is dreaming up his third British political party. Called New Deal, its aim is to do to Labour what Ukip did to the Tories – embarrass it electorally and whip up latent euroscepticism. He's considering standing against Ed Miliband in Doncaster in next year's general election.
But, first, where is that piece of paper? "You see," Sked says as he hunts, "up until 1997 I managed to keep Ukip a liberal – with a small 'l' – centre, moderate party. Our membership application form from the time – ah, here it is! – shows how much it has changed."
He hands me the form. It makes for fascinating reading. In 1993, along with backing British withdrawal from the EU, prospective members had to be sympathetic to the following: "It is a non-sectarian, non-racist party with no prejudices against foreigners or lawful minorities of any kind. It does not recognise the legitimacy of the European parliament and will send representatives only to the British parliament in Westminster."
"They got rid of all that after I left," says Sked, who resigned the leadership shortly after the 1997 general election. He claims that the tolerant, liberal and democratic party he founded was taken over by rightwingers and that, outgunned and outmanoeuvred by Farage and other leading figures after that election, he had no alternative but to quit.
"They took out the bit about no prejudices against lawful minorities and, as soon as I disappeared, they all decided they wanted to go to the European parliament and take their expenses."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/26/ukip-founder-alan-sked-party-become-frankensteins-monster
I certainly hadn't heard before that the UKIP founder refused to recognise the European Parliament.
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Shady wrote:Sour grapes.
Over what? From what I gathered, Sked doesn't have a party he likes right now.
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It is strange that the EU gravy train is frequented at the trough by UKIP, Nasty Nick will collect EU revenue for the next six months, then I guess it'll become the Benefit Nick Party.
I hope UKIP remain powerful enough to lead Labour into victory, I appreciate the irony in that.
I hope UKIP remain powerful enough to lead Labour into victory, I appreciate the irony in that.
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scrat wrote:It is strange that the EU gravy train is frequented at the trough by UKIP, Nasty Nick will collect EU revenue for the next six months, then I guess it'll become the Benefit Nick Party.
I hope UKIP remain powerful enough to lead Labour into victory, I appreciate the irony in that.
Isn't it just divine Scrat,,but I've a feeling some will go back to Tory next GE?...
Others will prove loyalty to Nigel Raceage.
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UKIP is by its very nature full of disparate members some of whom will be outright racist. Many Labour voters especially in poorer working class communities are out and out racist. You are either delusional or worse if you think otherwise.
The key point about that is ensuring UKIPS current claim to fame is that the elite in the main parties have completely ignored them over their reasonable concerns over the EU.
You lefties have no understanding of that because you have defended time and time again Labour reneging on the last treaty by refusing to honour its pledge to a referendum before signing it.
Democracy and lefties are strangers.
The key point about that is ensuring UKIPS current claim to fame is that the elite in the main parties have completely ignored them over their reasonable concerns over the EU.
You lefties have no understanding of that because you have defended time and time again Labour reneging on the last treaty by refusing to honour its pledge to a referendum before signing it.
Democracy and lefties are strangers.
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lol what ridiculous generalisation...
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Alright said Fred wrote:UKIP is by its very nature full of disparate members some of whom will be outright racist. Many Labour voters especially in poorer working class communities are out and out racist. You are either delusional or worse if you think otherwise.
The key point about that is ensuring UKIPS current claim to fame is that the elite in the main parties have completely ignored them over their reasonable concerns over the EU.
You lefties have no understanding of that because you have defended time and time again Labour reneging on the last treaty by refusing to honour its pledge to a referendum before signing it.
Democracy and lefties are strangers.
But Dinky...wasn't it Thatcher who dragged us Into the EU, starting around when I was a wee lad?, Irn had mentioned this last week...
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