MALE HOMOSEXUALS COMMIT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CHILD SEX ABUSE CASES

22nd May 2014

My interest was sparked by another thread - after looking in to this i found it quite astonishing.

Please discuss.

Many parents have become concerned that children may be molested, encouraged to become sexually active, or even "recruited" into adopting a homosexual identity and lifestyle. Gay activists dismiss such concerns--in part, by strenuously insisting that there is no connection between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of children.

However, despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners. In this paper we will consider the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia:

Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men.

Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls).

The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population.

Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.

Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of "boy-lovers" to be a legitimate gay rights issue.

Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote "intergenerational intimacy."

MALE HOMOSEXUALS COMMIT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CHILD SEX ABUSE CASES
Homosexual apologists admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offenses. After all, they argue, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.

The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse: 1) men are almost always the perpetrator; 2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys; 3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.


http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

2002?

From a anti homosexual site as well


Wow, your ignorance is astounding Andy

Oh my...WHAT is the point of this exactly??

If you read everything at the link, every study confirms the fact that homosexuals commit a disproportionate number of child sex abuse cases.

I've looked all over the net - every study!

BigAndy9 wrote:If you read everything at the link, every study confirms the fact that homosexuals commit a disproportionate number of child sex abuse cases.

I've looked all over the net - every study!

No it does not, I have been down this road before with this Christian web site

No this why you are a fuckwit, that has not seen every study, for example:

https://www.ipce.info/host/howitt/2c.htm

We know that the overwhelming majority of child sex abusers are men, around 99.9%.

(Govt figures showing less than 150 women in jail or otherwise being monitored, and most of these will be lesbians targeting only girls)


And we know that around a third of of abusers target ONLY boys in a homosexual way.

(This can be found on the NSPCC web site)


And we know that homosexuals only make up about 1% of general population.

(This is a rough estimate, impossible to really know exact figure, although probably over estimating the true number, but gives us a number to work with in comparing with other data)


The figures are staggering and point to an undeniable trend.

How sad that Matti still is poor at maths and the use of stats.

Didge, I am trained in engineering, physics and I'm MCSE, all requiring a high level of maths to achieve.



I have no problem understanding basic figures, stats and arithmetic.

How sad that Matti and BA don't realise that the men that target boys are probably NOT turned on by men. Paedo's like the power they have over children and the fact the child is 'untouched'. They can't handle adult sex normally.

So why do about a third target ONLY boys.....???

Tommy Monk wrote:Didge, I am trained in engineering, physics and I'm MCSE, all requiring a high level of maths to achieve.



I have no problem understanding basic figures, stats and arithmetic.

 ://?roflmao?/:  ://?roflmao?/: 


That makes it even worse then how poor your hypothesis is, because as seen from the many reasons given, for example, an offender can have multiple victims, females, etc, the list is endless you take none into account and go off the number of victims which in itself is a range from 22%-30%

More like you are a labourer, as that would make more sense, as you would not make such bad mathematical errors

Tommy Monk wrote:So why do about a third target ONLY boys.....???

So why to two thirds target only girls?

You obviously know nothing about psychology. They don't target children for a sexual relationship, they target them because they are weak and can be manipulated. Whether it be boys or girls, it has nowt to do with adult sex.

The NSPCC site says about a third of ABUSERS TARGET ONLY BOYS.



It also Says about 10% target any children, and the rest target girls only.




The ones who target any child either girl or boy are The truest peados because they don't care what gender the child is but are after the child.


The others are obviously motivated by their underlying preference of gender.




ie homosexual/heterosexual.

Oh dear, still repeating himself, after being shown his concept is flawed.

night

Tommy Monk wrote:The NSPCC site says about a third of ABUSERS TARGET ONLY BOYS.



It also Says about 10% target any children, and the rest target girls only.




The ones who target any child either girl or boy are The truest peados because they don't care what gender the child is but are after the child.


The others are obviously motivated by their underlying preference of gender.




ie homosexual/heterosexual.

 :asboredas: 

Still no real facts or figures from anyone to disprove this I see......




Plenty of denials from some, but they obviously care more about political correctness and the sensitivities of homosexual peados than the innocent children who become victims and have their lives ruined.


The truth must be wrong because the truth is not politically correct........ all in the name of equality mind!!!!

:asboredas: 

Nope, just fucking bored dealing with a total nobhead!

Tommy Monk wrote:The NSPCC site says about a third of ABUSERS TARGET ONLY BOYS.



It also Says about 10% target any children, and the rest target girls only.




The ones who target any child either girl or boy are The truest peados because they don't care what gender the child is but are after the child.


The others are obviously motivated by their underlying preference of gender.




ie homosexual/heterosexual.

Then they would seek relationships with adults you absolute tool....

Whatever it is that drives adult men to children is not the same as what drives them to adults, since the whole physicality and mentality of a child is totally undesirable on that level to any person gay or straight; unless they are a paedophile.

The reason more victims are male may simply be a case of them being within easier access of male abusers; there is no proof whatsoever that most of those going after boys are gay; a gay man goes for men, same as a straight man goes for women.

Regardless of whether you think I'm a nobhead or not, debate the points raised and the facts and figures. If you can......

Why? Why debate with an ignorant prejudiced fool, who would say blue was pink and red was yellow because he doesn't understand the premise of how a paedo's brain works and how it has nothing to do with adult sexuality.

And you are an expert on peados now....???




If it has nothing to do with sexuality, then why so many men who target only boys?



And surely you can show us loads of homosexuals who target only girls.....????



And lesbian peados who target only boys....????




I know that as a leftie you are pre programmed to stick up for your favourite minority groups, but you're not a complete idiot, and you must realise the truth of The figures raised, and the obvious implications are at least worthy of acknowledgment as a strong possibility, and of further investigation.

I'm getting a sense of deja-vous......again......sigh

Matti why in gods name are you so obsessed with this subject? Seriously. Get a hobby or something.

I'm not obsessed by this, it's just Didge keeps bringing it up on threads as a way to try to undermine other arguments, when he's losing debate he starts going on about how all my views are rubbish cos I believe this that and the other, So I have to reaffirm the truth about what I actually said and evidence behind it.




Then he starts with his regular denial waffle again and off we go.




If he would just admit there is credibility in the arguments and say yes it does on the face of it look like figures show trend that needs further investigation then I wouldn't have to keep defending the point.

Comical, you have no credible evidence, as all can see, just poor methodology, discounting many aspects, whilst also having no understanding.
You only present skewed points, based off prejudice views, with no viable evidence, hence why you are not taken seriously.

Sassy wrote:Why?   Why debate with an ignorant prejudiced fool, who would say blue was pink and red was yellow because he doesn't understand the premise of how a paedo's brain works and how it has nothing to do with adult sexuality.

Exactly. A paedophile's brain isn't the same as a 'normal' brain.

hmm interesting how our sexuality ie hetero or homo are usually set by our preferences, yet suddenly a homosexual who's obvious and only preference is children of the same sex is not a homosexual peadophile...

why do the rules change....

eddie wrote:

Sassy wrote:Why?   Why debate with an ignorant prejudiced fool, who would say blue was pink and red was yellow because he doesn't understand the premise of how a paedo's brain works and how it has nothing to do with adult sexuality.

Exactly. A paedophile's brain isn't the same as a 'normal' brain.

Sassy and edds that is what I have tried to say on the other thread.   

David wrote:

eddie wrote:

Exactly. A paedophile's brain isn't the same as a 'normal' brain.

Sassy and edds that is what I have tried to say on the other thread.   

I'm really not getting at you David and i am not saying all homosexuals are peadophiles but it is clear some peadophiles are clearly homosexual both in their adult sexual choices and their child sexual choices.

I do think the idea that the two things are somehow separate is very dangerous, it perhaps gives somewhere for those gay peadophiles to hide and gain greater opportunity to groom ad ultimately assault their victims..

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

David wrote:

Sassy and edds that is what I have tried to say on the other thread.   

I'm really not getting at you David and i am not saying all homosexuals are peadophiles but it is clear some peadophiles are clearly homosexual both in their adult sexual choices and their child sexual choices.

I do think the idea that the two things are somehow separate is very dangerous, it perhaps gives somewhere for those gay peadophiles to hide and gain greater opportunity to groom ad ultimately assault their victims..

You have to keep the 2 things separate as the are separate. It is that simple.

David wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

I'm really not getting at you David and i am not saying all homosexuals are peadophiles but it is clear some peadophiles are clearly homosexual both in their adult sexual choices and their child sexual choices.

I do think the idea that the two things are somehow separate is very dangerous, it perhaps gives somewhere for those gay peadophiles to hide and gain greater opportunity to groom ad ultimately assault their victims..

You have to keep the 2 things separate as the are separate.  It is that simple.

But it isn't that simple, if a peadophile man constantly assaults boys, when he has equal opportunity to assault girls has made a preferential choice...that is simple..

i realise this is a very emotive subject for homosexuals but I think it is undeniable, unless you add the whole idea that homosexuality is actually a brain problem, which i am sure no one thinks it is..

BigAndy9 wrote:22nd May 2014

My interest was sparked by another thread - after looking in to this i found it quite astonishing.

Please discuss.

Many parents have become concerned that children may be molested, encouraged to become sexually active, or even "recruited" into adopting a homosexual identity and lifestyle. Gay activists dismiss such concerns--in part, by strenuously insisting that there is no connection between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of children.

However, despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners. In this paper we will consider the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia:

Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men.

Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls).

The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population.

Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.

Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of "boy-lovers" to be a legitimate gay rights issue.

Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote "intergenerational intimacy."

MALE HOMOSEXUALS COMMIT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CHILD SEX ABUSE CASES
Homosexual apologists admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offenses. After all, they argue, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.

The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse: 1) men are almost always the perpetrator; 2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys; 3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.


http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

Rubbish.

harrymuffin wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:22nd May 2014

My interest was sparked by another thread - after looking in to this i found it quite astonishing.

Please discuss.

Many parents have become concerned that children may be molested, encouraged to become sexually active, or even "recruited" into adopting a homosexual identity and lifestyle. Gay activists dismiss such concerns--in part, by strenuously insisting that there is no connection between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of children.

However, despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners. In this paper we will consider the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia:

Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men.

Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls).

The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population.

Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.

Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of "boy-lovers" to be a legitimate gay rights issue.

Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote "intergenerational intimacy."

MALE HOMOSEXUALS COMMIT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CHILD SEX ABUSE CASES
Homosexual apologists admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offenses. After all, they argue, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.

The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse: 1) men are almost always the perpetrator; 2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys; 3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.


http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

Rubbish.

well there's nothing like a well thought out, well constructed, well supported reply and that was nothing like a well thought out, well constructed, well supported reply....

    

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

David wrote:

You have to keep the 2 things separate as the are separate.  It is that simple.

But it isn't that simple, if a peadophile man constantly assaults boys, when he has equal opportunity to assault girls has made a preferential choice...that is simple..

i realise this is a very emotive subject for homosexuals but I think it is undeniable, unless you add the whole idea that homosexuality is actually a brain problem, which i am sure no one thinks it is..

But the preference is children, if that abuser is also a child, what does that define the boy who is the abuser who then grows up to get married and only have a preference for women? You see it is not as you make it out to be, because as seen it is for those who offend. 40% of offenders are actually also minors. You and others view this as if it is like a relationship, between two men, it is not it is predators who prey on children who's sexual preference is children, one where they are of the ultimate power being in control, is children are easier to scare and manipulate. Now forcing this on someone can hardly be classed as even a sexual relationship can it? It is rape and a mind set to control and abuse, hence why you easily confuse a wrong association to homosexuality.

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

David wrote:

Sassy and edds that is what I have tried to say on the other thread.   

I'm really not getting at you David and i am not saying all homosexuals are peadophiles but it is clear some peadophiles are clearly homosexual both in their adult sexual choices and their child sexual choices.

I do think the idea that the two things are somehow separate is very dangerous, it perhaps gives somewhere for those gay peadophiles to hide and gain greater opportunity to groom ad ultimately assault their victims..

But many paedophiles can be heterosexual in the adult sexual choices; but target boys or girls in their abusive sexuality. Which is the point.

Andy, this thread is poor man, it implies that gay people are paedophiles, that link means nothing , this thread just comes across as badness.

Do the decent thing and ditch it Andy...

Good man.

What is conical is the excuses we are hearing.



Many of those who target only boys are women.(shown as bullshit, less than 150 women are either in jail or being monitored for child sex abuse, and most of these will be lesbians who target ONLY girls,. Still nobody has had a problem with me saying lesbians who target ONLY girls, but up in arms when I say gays targeting only boys! Funny that, it's like the obvious is accepted one way but bend over backwards to deny the obvious the other way!)

They're all heterosexual in adult relationships.(again quick to tarnish heterosexuals with this but oh no, of course there aren't any homosexuals involve no no no)

They don't have adult relationships and only target boys cos they're just into children (but not girls, and previously adamant that they were All heterosexual in their adult relationships)

They're not proper homosexuals.

It's only a few.



Anything to avoid the inconvenient truth, that they are homosexuals, most will have adult homosexual relationships, and they just like young boys too!!!
We only have to remember that the overwhelming majority of cases we hear about involve a man, being homosexual. There are very very few cases where it is woman involved, and this is usually a youngish woman with a 15 year old who's probably having the time of his life and very willing in a Mrs Robinson style.



Most of The homosexuals have cunningly got themselves into a position of trust where they have easy access to boys, teacher, vicar, youth worker, scout leader etc.

Bull shit; no proof; just bull shit.

Get over your hate of gay people.

Matti I don't think anyone is saying it's different for woman targeting girls...?

What we are saying is that it's just simply rubbish.

Paedophiles are not the same as homosexuals.

Homosexuals enjoy consensual relationships with other adults.

Paedophiles prey upon children - who are not consensual.

WORTH A READ

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/09/18/903178/-Gays-are-pedophiles-No-Here-s-the-proof#


In the book Mental Disorders of the New Millennium (2006), author and psychology professor Thomas Plante writes:

Although the majority of clergy abuse victims are males, homosexuality cannot be blamed. First, many of the pedophile priests report that they are not homosexual. This is also true of many non-clergy sex offenders who victimize boys. Many report that they target boys for a variety of reasons  that include easier access to boys ... pregnancy fears with female victims ... homosexuals in general have not been found to be more likely to commit sexual crimes against minors compared to heterosexuals. Sexual orientation is not predictive of sex crimes



Even Pope Benedict XVI, not exactly a liberal gay rights activist, has said the same thing:

Perhaps this is why Pope Benedict XVI himself, en route to the United States for his visit in 2008, responded this way to a question about the abuse crisis: "I do not wish to talk about homosexuality, but about pedophilia, which is a different thing." ~ Rev James Martin, SJ, It's Not About Homosexuality: Blaming the Wrong People for the Sexual Abuse Crisis, Huffington Post

All homosexuals have adult male relationships, and many like young boys too.
That is the point.

Eddie, come off it, weak at best and from huff and puff.....

eddie wrote:Matti I don't think anyone is saying it's different for woman targeting girls...?

What we are saying is that it's just simply rubbish.

Paedophiles are not the same as homosexuals.

Homosexuals enjoy consensual  relationships with other adults.

Paedophiles prey upon children - who are not consensual.

Absolutely correct Eds, matti..she's only telling the truth, to imply that homosexuals also have paedophile tendencies is just nonsense.

Actually unlike your assertions and nonesense it clearly breaks down your own ideas and points out the fact most abuses are against boys because men typically have more access to boys.

A gay man is no more likely to be attracted to a boy than a straight man is a girl, for the simple fact there is nothing sexually attractive about children.

Your sentence above it ridiculous, I could just as easily say, "all heterosexual men have adult female relationships, and many like young girls too". That is just as absurd and just as wrong.

I don't know if you are just being vindictive or are actually as stupid as you are coming across with your utter lack of understanding.

Reply to JD

But it's ok to say heterosexuals have peado tendencies????


But not the sacred homosexuals!?

Tommy Monk wrote:But it's ok to say heterosexuals have peado tendencies????
But not the sacred homosexuals!?

No no one is saying that; calm down dear (so many punctuation marks hahahaha)   

We are simply saying you can't make assertions one way or the other when there is no evidence, which only you are doing.

Les, it's not about access, it's about who they deliberately target, the NSPCC web site says about a third target ONLY boys.
That is a deliberate choice of preference.

Tommy Monk wrote:Les, it's  not about access, it's about who they deliberately target, the NSPCC web site says about a third target ONLY boys.
That is a deliberate choice of preference.

As the article says (and is obvious) that may be to do with the ease at which men can get access to those boys.

And even still; how can you compare the attraction to an adult to the attraction to a child? That is as I have said like you understanding how a straight man can be attracted to a girl.

You are showing a clear uncertainty to be honest, you can't even respond to eddie's report on this.

Tommy Monk wrote:But it's ok to say heterosexuals have peado tendencies????
But not the sacred homosexuals!?

Ah come on Mat!!,mis that what this is coming down to?...because some heterosexual men are paedophiles,that shouldn't be focused on...but we should instead turn to homosexual men and blame them for being paedos?

Matty, it just sounds like pure hatred of gay people.

Yet your such a decent lad in other ways, Matt...there are ways I which gay guys ripped to shreds from people...even disliked, but to say that gay men are paedophiles is awful mate.

Two totally different things,,,eds said already that gay men are attracted first and foremost to other gay men, not kids man ffs.