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'I know it’s easy to take benefits in England’: Gipsies who move to Britain reveal how they claim thousands of pounds every month as part of their bundle of benefits even though they do not work

Documentary features a mother of 11 who receives almost £2,000 in benefits

Also follows immigrant who wants to earn £40,000 in benefits in two years

Gipsies have revealed how they are claiming thousands of pounds every month in benefits after moving to Britain and milking the generous state benefit system. 
The admissions were made in a damning new Channel 5 documentary which follows the lives of Roma gipsies in Britain.
One of the gipsies featured in Gypsies On Benefits And Proud is Katarina Cisarova, 43,who brought her eleven children and eleven grand-children with her to an estate in Rotherham.

The Slovakian Roma receives almost £2,000 in benefits programmes and boasts: 'We have a good life here. We have everything that we want here. It is very nice.'

In the seven years she has been in Britain, Katarina has worked a handful of days.
She lives with her husband Peter and their four youngest children – all teenagers.
Peter, who has not had a job for two years says: 'My country, I no had a job, no food, nothing. No going back, never. Thank you so much England.'

Most of their grown up children also rely on the welfare state.
The documentary which will air April 11, also features Ion Lazar, 36, who came to the Britain with five other immigrants when the work restrictions on Romanians were lifted in January.
He admits he is just planning to stash his benefits to take home to his family in Romania.
'I need maybe forty thousand from
benefits.... four zero thousand pounds for my family and I think this
money I can make in one years maybe two,' he said.
He says on the show: 'I know it’s very, very easy to take benefits in England… She’s give me home free, she’s give me money free, she’s give me everything.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595815/I-know-s-easy-benefits-England-Gipsies-Britain-reveal-claim-thousands-pounds-month-bundle-benefits-not-workxxx.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490



But the lefties tell us it's only the highly skilled, hard working and well needed immigrants coming here to do all the jobs that we don't want to do!


While in the EU we have no control on our borders.


Haven't we got better things to be spending our tax money on?

They come just to take the benefits.

Straight from the horses mouth!

The tax payers should revolt!

What no defence from the lefties!

And meanwhile our own GENUINE needy get more and more cuts and increases in council tax....

but thats equity for you...

Where have all the lefties gone?

They will deny seeing this thread or any other evidence, then they can continue denying that this is happening!

Tommy Monk wrote:Where have all the lefties gone?

They will deny seeing this thread or any other evidence, then they can continue denying that this is happening!

They spend years denying then when faced with overwhelming evidence they are wrong they simply go in denial. I was just reading in the Telegraph that Osborne is sending out a Pie Chart with tax statements showing just how much is spent on welfare. It is the biggest number for all depts. over 20% well ahead of pensions at 15%

Thought we'd let you spout your nonsense and stir each other up, it's what you would do however many facts are put in front of you.

Sassy wrote:Thought we'd let you spout your nonsense and stir each other up, it's what you would do however many facts are put in front of you.  

We? How do you know what others are thinking?

Check oot Rags pretending she doesnae ken what a Giro looks like!! ::smthg::

Alright said Fred wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Where have all the lefties gone?

They will deny seeing this thread or any other evidence, then they can continue denying that this is happening!

They spend years denying then when faced with overwhelming evidence they are wrong they simply go in denial. I was just reading in the Telegraph that Osborne is sending out a Pie Chart with tax statements showing just how much is spent on welfare. It is the biggest number for all depts. over 20% well ahead of pensions at 15%

AND fred.....pie charts are the best way to lie honestly....how many of those benefits are "working support" benefits..like tax credits.
dont forget those working support benefits are ONLY there because government is engaged in subsiding industry, by allowing unjustifiably low wages...

Joy Division wrote:Check oot Rags pretending she doesnae ken what a Giro looks like!! ::smthg::

What?

The lefties work as a collective sharing the same brain cell, unable to think for themselves.
Nothing to say about the OP ?

Welfare Bill 2013

Pensions 139.1 Billion
Unemployment 5.9 Billion
Housing 4.2 Billion

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/year_spending_2013UKbn_13bc1n_40#ukgs302

Sassy wrote:Welfare Bill 2013

Pensions 139.1 Billion
Unemployment 5.9 Billion
Housing 4.2 Billion

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/year_spending_2013UKbn_13bc1n_40#ukgs302

That's a lot of pension!!!!   
Didnt realise we had so many oldies

Anything to say about the foreign benefits scroungers in the OP?

I'm sure there are old foreigners here claiming too.

I'm not sure it's healthy to dwell too much on the benefits people get. I never used to think about it - I just did my job, which I loved, paid tax because I had to, and didn't think about what anyone else was doing with my money. Do we hear more about this kind of thing than we used to?

Raggamuffin wrote:I'm not sure it's healthy to dwell too much on the benefits people get. I never used to think about it - I just did my job, which I loved, paid tax because I had to, and didn't think about what anyone else was doing with my money. Do we hear more about this kind of thing than we used to?

We certainly do here in the U.S., which has recently been described by some as the only country in the world where the well-off feel they should be envious of the poor. I'm not sure I'd agree that we're the only one, though ...

Thing is, benefits are supposed to be there for everyone when needed, and most people (at least speaking for the U.S.) are never either in great financial shape their entire lives or totally broke their entire lives. We should be far more concerned with governments spending billions on warfare rather than when they spend to help people.

We should be far more concerned with governments spending billions on warfare rather than when they spend to help people.


Ain't that the truth!

Well I think how public money is spent is most important.

Tommy Monk wrote:Well I think how public money is spent is most important.

Of course it's important. It's not just the money per se, it's making sure that nobody is taken advantage of because they are forced to pay tax from their earnings.

Who do you think the people in the OP are taking advantage of?

Tommy Monk wrote:Who do you think the people in the OP are taking advantage of?

The tax payers of course. The Government has to look out for everyone, and that includes the tax payers. In fact, without them, there would be no benefits.

Raggamuffin wrote:I'm not sure it's healthy to dwell too much on the benefits people get. I never used to think about it - I just did my job, which I loved, paid tax because I had to, and didn't think about what anyone else was doing with my money. Do we hear more about this kind of thing than we used to?

....And now Stooo keeps you FFS!   

Raggamuffin wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Who do you think the people in the OP are taking advantage of?

The tax payers of course. The Government has to look out for everyone, and that includes the tax payers. In fact, without them, there would be no benefits.

....Not everyone, has a partner that they can live off Rags!   

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:I'm not sure it's healthy to dwell too much on the benefits people get. I never used to think about it - I just did my job, which I loved, paid tax because I had to, and didn't think about what anyone else was doing with my money. Do we hear more about this kind of thing than we used to?

....And now Stooo keeps you FFS!   

No he doesn't - stop lying, and stop harassing me all the time - scrounger.

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

The tax payers of course. The Government has to look out for everyone, and that includes the tax payers. In fact, without them, there would be no benefits.

....Not everyone, has a partner that they can live off Rags!   

Well you certainly do - he must be very lucrative for you.

No pussyboy, but it seems that every fucker can live off benefits,regardless of whether they are British or not!


Nothing to say about OP?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Catman wrote:

....Not everyone, has a partner that they can live off Rags!   

Well you certainly do - he must be very lucrative for you.

What is VAT?



  

I see Catman's drunk again. That booze will kill him one day ...

Raggamuffin wrote:

Catman wrote:

....And now Stooo keeps you FFS!   

No he doesn't - stop lying, and stop harassing me all the time - scrounger.

....He said quite recently, that you have never paid an electric bill!

Raggamuffin wrote:I see Catman's drunk again. That booze will kill him one day ...

Stop trying to be so moral over others, when you don't pay your own fucking way!   

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

No he doesn't - stop lying, and stop harassing me all the time - scrounger.

....He said quite recently, that you have never paid an electric bill!

No he didn't. Anyway, that doesn't mean he "keeps" me.

When did you last pay a bill out of your own money that you earned rather than money you scrounged off the State?

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:I see Catman's drunk again. That booze will kill him one day ...

Stop trying to be so moral over others, when you don't pay your own fucking way!   

I hope my tax doesn't go towards scroungers like you, and I hope that you get found out and made to pay it all back.  ://?roflmao?/:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Catman wrote:

....He said quite recently, that you have never paid an electric bill!

No he didn't. Anyway, that doesn't mean he "keeps" me.

When did you last pay a bill out of your own money that you earned rather than money you scrounged off the State?

WE never scrounged anything off the state, only gained money that we were entitled to as a unit, of course, what really pisses stupid RWhingers like you off, is that some people have families that can help out from time to time!  ::D:: 

Raggamuffin wrote:I'm not sure it's healthy to dwell too much on the benefits people get. I never used to think about it - I just did my job, which I loved, paid tax because I had to, and didn't think about what anyone else was doing with my money. Do we hear more about this kind of thing than we used to?

Why isn't it healthy ?, The Inland revenue dwell on how much me and OH get........ The mere fact that one is given and the other has to be earnt should ring alarm bells.

Why should the earners have to pay an X amount just to support the non earners who deride a discussion on how much is handed out.

That my friend no matter which way you put it is our problem in the Uk.

There is no rule against families helping each other out....Just ask Duncan Smith!   

gerber wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:I'm not sure it's healthy to dwell too much on the benefits people get. I never used to think about it - I just did my job, which I loved, paid tax because I had to, and didn't think about what anyone else was doing with my money. Do we hear more about this kind of thing than we used to?

Why isn't it healthy ?, The Inland revenue dwell on how much me and OH get........   The mere fact that one is given and the other has to be earnt should ring alarm bells.

Why should the earners have to pay an X amount just to support the non earners who deride a discussion on how much is handed out.

That my friend no matter which way you put it is our problem in the Uk.

It's not healthy because nobody can do anything about it. You can't say to the Government - I don't want my tax to go to people who sit around all day.

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

No he didn't. Anyway, that doesn't mean he "keeps" me.

When did you last pay a bill out of your own money that you earned rather than money you scrounged off the State?

WE never scrounged anything off the state, only gained money that we were entitled to as a unit, of course, what really pisses stupid RWhingers like you off, is that some people have families that can help out from time to time!  ::D:: 

I hope you're declaring this money your family give you to the benefits people ...

Hey Rags....

Did you know that you are allowed to have £6,000 worth of savings, whilst being on benefits?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Catman wrote:

WE never scrounged anything off the state, only gained money that we were entitled to as a unit, of course, what really pisses stupid RWhingers like you off, is that some people have families that can help out from time to time!  ::D:: 

I hope you're declaring this money your family give you to the benefits people ...

Don't need to, we work within the law.

...Why involve my MP in recent cases, if i had anything to hide at all!   

Give it a rest Catsick. You always get personal on debating threads.

This is about benefits in general.

Why do some some rich people hide money in off shore accounts?

.......Then????

Catman wrote:Hey Rags....

Did you know that you are allowed to have £6,000 worth of savings, whilst being on benefits?

IMO if you have earnt it, saved it, received through means of said work or inheritance, it should not be means tested.

The careful Grandparents or parents who were frugal purely to pass on the benefits to their offspring, and who btw had already paid tax on all monies earnt, received or declared.

£6000 is a paltry sum and should be revised as is rhe inheritance tax being looked into........ Difference someone please explain....

Catman wrote:Why do some some rich people hide money in off shore accounts?

Ah, well maybe they're tired of working hard to pay for people to sit around on benefits. I can understand why some people get involved in tax avoidance tbh.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Catman wrote:Why do some some rich people hide money in off shore accounts?

Ah, well maybe they're tired of working hard to pay for people to sit around on benefits. I can understand why some people get involved in tax avoidance tbh.

.....And VAT fraud?

Why would someone want to get involved in tax evasion, when they had plenty of money anyway?

Is that because they are very greedy?

Catman wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ah, well maybe they're tired of working hard to pay for people to sit around on benefits. I can understand why some people get involved in tax avoidance tbh.

.....And VAT fraud?

Why would someone want to get involved in tax evasion, when they had plenty of money anyway?

Is that because they are very greedy?

You're so boring. This is about benefits, not VAT fraud.

I just told you - maybe some people are sick of having to bail out those who live off benefits for no good reason - people like you.

Noticed, just a small point of order, either you guys are so entwined with each other or will not answer my question. I am not one for asking a question if I already know the answer.............

Hence my question........