Would you rather each race stayed in their homeland?

by eddie Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:15 am

First topic message reminder :

I am asking this question as I want to know WHY each poster who is against multiculturalism, would prefer England to stay English.

Would you prefer 100% ALL English?
Perhaps a ratio of 20/80? 95/5?

Is it a certain race or all races?

Lastly, WHY would it make your world a better place?

(Can we keep away from boring and long-arse C&P's and have OPINIONS please?)

I like a little mix, bit of this and a bit of that. I'm not into plain boiled rice and a little seasoning is best.
However, IMO i think the borders should've been closed years ago (though how do you deny entry to a really needy family with children?) because we are very, very overcrowded!
I would prefer more Englishness than not and I would hate to lose it altogether.
I do love a piece of culture but I don't want to drown in other cultures because I like my rice to taste like rice and not be so heavily spiced and seasoned that I can't taste that it was rice in the first place.

I love all cultures and I like peace. But I love my country too.
Peace out.
Rice is nice finely spiced Cool

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:51 pm

Eilzel wrote:Closing borders is unrealistic. What if a person would be killed where they are from? What if you marry s foreigner and want them and their family to come live with you? What if you are multimillionaire wanting to come and live in the UK bringing business and cash into the country? As for the EU- it is a two way street, want to go move to Italy? No problem

Truth is we cannot just close borders. We aren't a fortress. If situations were better in other countries some wouldn't leave in the first place; and surely that is one purpose of the UN and the idea of a gl

Good post Eilzel, amd neither do we want to be a fortress cut off from the rest of the world...

It's very worrying the growing bad attitudes and hostility towards people from other countries, I think if it was a vice versa and a British person wished to move to another country, they would be the first to greet if they were refused entry or met with such hostility.

We really must look like a spiteful little nation full of hate in they eyes of other countries.

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:52 pm

Eli:

But as I say I see both sides and understand and agree with aspects of both. But the hostility to multiculturalism is disproportionate for sure; especially in cities I see nothing but the success of multiculturalism, and it is a wonderful thing Smile

What do you see in the cities that tells you multiculturalism is a success?

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:54 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Closing borders is unrealistic. What if a person would be killed where they are from? What if you marry s foreigner and want them and their family to come live with you? What if you are multimillionaire wanting to come and live in the UK bringing business and cash into the country? As for the EU- it is a two way street, want to go move to Italy? No problem

Truth is we cannot just close borders. We aren't a fortress. If situations were better in other countries some wouldn't leave in the first place; and surely that is one purpose of the UN and the idea of a gl

Good post Eilzel, amd neither do we want to be a fortress cut off from the rest of the world...

It's very worrying the growing bad attitudes and hostility towards people from other countries, I think if it was a vice versa and a British person wished to move to another country, they would be the first to greet if they were refused entry or met with such hostility.

We really must look like a spiteful little nation full of hate in they eyes of other countries.

What people want is to choose who comes here and for what reasons.

People see the past 20 years as a failure.

It has been a failure - mass uncontrolled immigration hasn't worked, it has brought incredible hardship for the English and has made them feel alienated and discriminated against in what was their own country.

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:56 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:Eli:

But as I say I see both sides and understand and agree with aspects of both. But the hostility to multiculturalism is disproportionate for sure; especially in cities I see nothing but the success of multiculturalism, and it is a wonderful thing Smile

What do you see in the cities that tells you multiculturalism is a success?

People of all different races and cultures etc, living side by side with each other in peace and harmony, certainly that's what it's like where i'm living. Rolling Eyes

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:03 pm

Catman wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:Eli:

But as I say I see both sides and understand and agree with aspects of both. But the hostility to multiculturalism is disproportionate for sure; especially in cities I see nothing but the success of multiculturalism, and it is a wonderful thing Smile

What do you see in the cities that tells you multiculturalism is a success?

People of all different races and cultures etc, living side by side with each other in peace and harmony, certainly that's what it's like where i'm living.

That sounds lovely Mr Catman.

And where is it you live?

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:07 pm

Catman wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:Eli:

But as I say I see both sides and understand and agree with aspects of both. But the hostility to multiculturalism is disproportionate for sure; especially in cities I see nothing but the success of multiculturalism, and it is a wonderful thing Smile

What do you see in the cities that tells you multiculturalism is a success?

People of all different races and cultures etc, living side by side with each other in peace and harmony, certainly that's what it's like where i'm living.

LEWISHAM: Gang boasted on YouTube after slashing man's neck

EIGHT teenagers have been found guilty of slashing a man's neck and then bragging about it on YouTube.

The youngsters, aged 16 to 18, punched a 26-year-old man at a birthday party in Ottenden Street, Lewisham, before hitting him with a brick and slicing his neck.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/8202331.LEWISHAM__Gang_boasted_on_YouTube_after_slashing_man_s_neck/

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:08 pm

Dear me

Listening to the likes of Victor is like some child in nursery not wanting to share a toy that belongs to the nursery, that is the reality of his anger arguments and would make a wonderful Poster boy for the UKIP party. All the arguments are absurd as in reality we are all humans, yes some have differences in cultures and religions, of which again differ vastly within individuals themselves.

The reality is most of the arguments here are like being back in primary school again, "She cannot play with us because she is ginger" "err go away from me, you pick your nose" These are things children say to others when they form a dislike of them which are irrational views that children, form yet as adults they are far worse and based again not taking a person at face value but from what ethnic group he belongs to, which is again absurd.

If people think they are being forced to get along with people,when the reality is there is no reason for them not to get along shows they will at all cost argue unsubstantiated views on people as an excuse not to and all based on what exactly? That we as humans being on the highest pecking order decide who can and who cannot reside on a piece of land on this planet, it is utterly pathetic. These arguments are not just found in the west but world over, the reality being the world population is getting out of control and only together can the world face this problem, otherwise our children's children will all suffer, as with such disharmony promoted between people will lead to further wars and conflict which nobody gains from and only people will suffer. The reality is this country alone cannot resource itself on its own, in fact it is very much reliant on food and energy sources from outside the Uk, yet if all nations were to take the view lets look after our own, many except the States would very quickly descend into anarchy, as many nations are very reliant on what they can trade with.

As seen our nation is something to be proud of, though it does not mean somebody cannot become part of that nation no matter their ethnic group, as seen the Birth of the English nation was formed from small minority and yet the people became known as the English, yet little are actually descended from any of the Angles. So what is it people fear? Well they fear the future of actually working together with humanity for the greater good of all humans, they fear this and would rather play off poor stereotypes and guilt by associations, sitting back unconcerned as it will not affect them in their lifetime, so they do not care about the next generations, only for themselves.

Humanity has always had the capacity to get along and will need to get along in the future, but nobody has the right to deny anyone a place in the world to live. Yes we need to control migration levels, but the reality is also we here have an ageing population which by 2050 one if four will be over 65, which will bring further problems unless will balance out the age groups in this nation which immigration does, being as many are of the younger group. We need to at some point control population growths, but only after we balance out the age levels.

Yes we can think about the future of our children and their jobs etc, but the reality is the world has to be in this together, as if not, we are all headed for complete disaster. Those who wish to argue idiotic claims to guilt by association have the mentality of children, because they argue and use the same childish prejudice against others.

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:08 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
Catman wrote:

People of all different races and cultures etc, living side by side with each other in peace and harmony, certainly that's what it's like where i'm living.

That sounds lovely Mr Catman.

And where is it you live?

In SE London, there aint no racism or homophobia around here, or they wouldn't dare show it, anyway. cheers

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:11 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
Catman wrote:

People of all different races and cultures etc, living side by side with each other in peace and harmony, certainly that's what it's like where i'm living.

LEWISHAM: Gang boasted on YouTube after slashing man's neck

EIGHT teenagers have been found guilty of slashing a man's neck and then bragging about it on YouTube.

The youngsters, aged 16 to 18, punched a 26-year-old man at a birthday party in Ottenden Street, Lewisham, before hitting him with a brick and slicing his neck.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/8202331.LEWISHAM__Gang_boasted_on_YouTube_after_slashing_man_s_neck/

In most big towns and cities etc.. there are going to be instances of violence you stupid cow. Rolling Eyes

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:20 pm

Catman wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:

That sounds lovely Mr Catman.

And where is it you live?

In SE London, there aint no racism or homophobia around here, or they wouldn't dare show it, anyway.

Is this a joke?

You should drop by for a cuppa some time.

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:21 pm

Catman wrote:
Tesstacious wrote:

LEWISHAM: Gang boasted on YouTube after slashing man's neck

EIGHT teenagers have been found guilty of slashing a man's neck and then bragging about it on YouTube.

The youngsters, aged 16 to 18, punched a 26-year-old man at a birthday party in Ottenden Street, Lewisham, before hitting him with a brick and slicing his neck.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/8202331.LEWISHAM__Gang_boasted_on_YouTube_after_slashing_man_s_neck/

In most big towns and cities etc.. there are going to be instances of violence you stupid cow.

From your local paper:

A Bromley woman who is “god of an alien race” claims she was engaged to Arsene Wenger in the 15th century, when she was Joan of Arc and he was the heir to the French throne. Stephany Cohen, 53, supposedly a deity among the Cat People from the Canis Major system, also revealed Labour will win next year's general election. She added aliens believe UKIP members are "misguided". She said Cat People have close ties with the Labour party, standing for "fairness, honesty and hard work", while Reptilians, who are "interested in money and wealth", have been a guiding hand for the Conservatives.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/bromley/11094828.Bromley_woman_who_is__god_of_alien_race__was__engaged_to_Arsene_Wenger_in_the_15th_century_/?ref=ec

::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg::

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:28 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
Catman wrote:

In most big towns and cities etc.. there are going to be instances of violence you stupid cow.

From your local paper:

A Bromley woman who is “god of an alien race” claims she was engaged to Arsene Wenger in the 15th century, when she was Joan of Arc and he was the heir to the French throne. Stephany Cohen, 53, supposedly a deity among the Cat People from the Canis Major system, also revealed Labour will win next year's general election. She added aliens believe UKIP members are "misguided". She said Cat People have close ties with the Labour party, standing for "fairness, honesty and hard work", while Reptilians, who are "interested in money and wealth", have been a guiding hand for the Conservatives.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/bromley/11094828.Bromley_woman_who_is__god_of_alien_race__was__engaged_to_Arsene_Wenger_in_the_15th_century_/?ref=ec

::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg::

Yeah.....and... :\\:[: :\\:[: :\\:[:

Bromley isn't Lewisham either, it's a completely separate borough. Rolling Eyes

by eddie Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:32 pm

Eilzel wrote:Eds I disagree catagorically with what you say about the young being unconcerned. I mean seriously, who else has the best in your face experience of the difficulty of getting a job, getting on the housing ladder etc, than the young? It is pretty patronizing in a way really, I know loads of people my age and younger, who go through these things, the young have the MOST reason to be concerned in fact, since the future for them is now.

And in any case, immigration and cultural diversity are hardly damaging. You speak to most young people and they are far more positive about different cultures than older generations. People have problems and always will, saying it is do with immigrants is blame culture and a fallacy.

You're right les, you're having problems NOW. You said it.
How much worse will they get by the time my children grow up???

The reason the are less houses and jobs Les is to do with being overcrowded.
I'd still,be saying this if England were totally English but we'd had a massively massive child book and had become overcrowded les x

by Eilzel Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:29 pm

eddie wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Eds I disagree catagorically with what you say about the young being unconcerned. I mean seriously, who else has the best in your face experience of the difficulty of getting a job, getting on the housing ladder etc, than the young? It is pretty patronizing in a way really, I know loads of people my age and younger, who go through these things, the young have the MOST reason to be concerned in fact, since the future for them is now.

And in any case, immigration and cultural diversity are hardly damaging. You speak to most young people and they are far more positive about different cultures than older generations. People have problems and always will, saying it is do with immigrants is blame culture and a fallacy.

You're right les, you're having problems NOW. You said it.
How much worse will they get by the time my children grow up???

The reason the are less houses and jobs Les is to do with being overcrowded.
I'd still,be saying this if England were totally English but we'd had a massively massive child book and had become overcrowded les x

But I also made it clear the problems were not all to do with immigration.

Worse? Why assume it will get worse? Economies have ups and downs. We were down in the 70s, the early 90s, and now we are down again. But for all I hate the Tories there are signs the economic situations is improving- in SPITE of immigration.

The reason there isn't enough houses is because supply didn't keep up with demand. The population, in spite of immigration, is actually around the number it was predicted to be at now back in the 80s. The reason there is a lack of jobs is because we had a major economic downturn- as the economy grows so will jobs, again in spite of immigration.

Stopping immigration will not create jobs. Arguments to stop immigration are wholly to do with a reaction against bad times and nothing to do with solving problems. As the economy grows, we build more houses and there are more jobs. Stopping immigration fixes nothing.

Over crowded; South Korea is the size of Scotland with over 50 million people; Japan is a little bigger than the UK with over 120 million people- a country can have as big a population as it likes so long as it creates the means to support them- the problem is there seems a gross conservative minded reluctance to do so here- people are far more interested in complaining about everything and preferring stagnation to progression.

by Lone Wolf Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:44 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:the leftist dream
....................................... a world where any discussion is drowned by waffle, diversion, dodge the question, refusal to answer ANY direct question....

THATS THE PROBLEM........progressives.......

wow another brilliant post victor... spot on..

Two braindead and substance abusing, hatemongering and non-thinking xenophobess pissing in each other's racist pockets...

(And Victor sounding more and more like Drinky with each passing day !).

What a surprise.. ::drnkpst::

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:47 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

wow another brilliant post victor... spot on..

Two braindead and substance abusing, hatemongering and non-thinking xenophobess pissing in each other's racist pockets...

(And Victor sounding more and more like Drinky with each passing day !).

What a surprise.. ::drnkpst::

Well that's added a lot of substance to the debate. As usual. Rolling Eyes

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:48 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

wow another brilliant post victor... spot on..

Two braindead and substance abusing, hatemongering and non-thinking xenophobess pissing in each other's racist pockets...

(And Victor sounding more and more like Drinky with each passing day !).

What a surprise.. ::drnkpst::

The problem is Victor has no answers to my points hence his poor replies, he thinks we should be selfish and not share out the world

by Lone Wolf Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:49 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
eddie wrote:
I am asking this question as I want to know WHY each poster who is against multiculturalism, would prefer England to stay English.

Would you prefer 100% ALL English?
Perhaps a ratio of 20/80? 95/5?

Is it a certain race or all races?

Lastly, WHY would it make your world a better place?

I love all cultures and I like peace. But I love my country too...

THE HEADLINE cannot be properly answered as you have worded it, in all honesty eddie !!!

AS YOU have posed it on a false premise from the very beginning ~

"RACES" are NOT defined by which country, continent or region they have originated from !

by Lone Wolf Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:56 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
Lone Wolf wrote:

Two braindead and substance abusing, hatemongering and non-thinking xenophobess pissing in each other's racist pockets...

(And Victor sounding more and more like Drinky with each passing day !).
What a surprise.. ::drnkpst::

Well that's added a lot of substance to the debate. As usual.

WHY are you always so stupidly thick ???

WERE you born that way ?

confused

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:01 pm

Catman wrote:
eddie wrote:

Benjy, I'm not getting into too many hard facts and figures, but it depends where you live.

Well, i live in a very multicultural area, and there is lots of social cohesion here, and always has been.

yeah thats why you were shitting yourself the night all that lovely social cohesion broken down and London burned

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:02 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Catman wrote:

Well, i live in a very multicultural area, and there is lots of social cohesion here, and always has been.

yeah thats why you were shitting yourself the night all that lovely social cohesion broken down and London burned

lmao

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:11 pm

the sad thing is that all these bleeding heart liberal idiots love something that they know nothing about

they want more cultural diversity

they want more foreigners

but the reality is that what they ACTUALLY get is not what they wanted, because what they want doesn't exist anywhere except in their minds

they have some delusion than a Pakistani Muslim will come skipping along with a big smile on his face and in a warm voice say "i love you Britain let me share my culture with you"

and they will all think "ooooo im about to be culturally enriched,this is great"

and it is great until that Muslim opens his trench coat and around his waist is a belt of explosives with the words "Muslim culture" written on it

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:14 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:the sad thing is that all these bleeding heart liberal idiots love something that they know nothing about

they want more cultural diversity

they want more foreigners

but the reality is that what they ACTUALLY get is not what they wanted, because what they want doesn't exist anywhere except in their minds

they have some delusion than a Pakistani Muslim will come skipping along with a big smile on his face and in a warm voice say "i love you Britain let me share my culture with you"

and they will all think "ooooo im about to be culturally enriched,this is great"

and it is great until that Muslim opens his trench coat and around his waist is a belt of explosives with the words "Muslim culture" written on it

Well we have accepted you, so clearly your view is that we should not have accepted you being as you are a foreigner, but being as most people are kind we even accept someone arguing against himself being here.
I mean you are a down and out utter racist, but we still accept you with all your faults

by Eilzel Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:15 pm

Oh smelly you are so full of bull crap your posts make the forum stink (maybe where you get your name?)

No one is actively asking for more people, immigration however is a part of life, always has been. Now if you don't not polluting the board with your inane drivel eh chap Wink

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:19 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Catman wrote:

Well, i live in a very multicultural area, and there is lots of social cohesion here, and always has been.

yeah thats why you were shitting yourself the night all that lovely social cohesion broken down and London burned

There were riots up and down the country, you racist and homophobic ----, how many riots have there been over the last few decades anyway....DOH!

by Lone Wolf Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:24 pm

Didge wrote:
Lone Wolf wrote:

Two braindead and substance abusing, hatemongering and non-thinking xenophobess pissing in each other's racist pockets...

(And Victor sounding more and more like Drinky with each passing day !).

What a surprise.. ::drnkpst::

The problem is Victor has no answers to my points hence his poor replies, he thinks we should be selfish and not share out the world

THAT has pretty well become the standard way of their "thinking" and replying among most of the racist and xenophobe brigade these days, hasn't it...

THEY'RE sounding so much alike, and repeating their rubbish and nonsense ad infinitum, that I no longer read 99% of what they post..

by Raggamuffin Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:45 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So do you want to get rid of fair hair, blue eyes and light skin? That's what would happen in the end because darker pigment is more dominant.

Nobody is suggesting anything of the sort man, for goodness sake.

Well that's what would happen. Don't call me "man".

by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:14 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:the sad thing is that all these bleeding heart liberal idiots love something that they know nothing about

they want more cultural diversity

they want more foreigners

but the reality is that what they ACTUALLY get is not what they wanted, because what they want doesn't exist anywhere except in their minds

they have some delusion than a Pakistani Muslim will come skipping along with a big smile on his face and in a warm voice say "i love you Britain let me share my culture with you"

and they will all think "ooooo im about to be culturally enriched,this is great"

and it is great until that Muslim opens his trench coat and around his waist is a belt of explosives with the words "Muslim culture" written on it

I've always hoped we'd make FSTDT, although this would probably be better suited for RSTDT Smile

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:28 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

wow another brilliant post victor... spot on..

Two braindead and substance abusing, hatemongering and non-thinking xenophobess pissing in each other's racist pockets...

(And Victor sounding more and more like Drinky with each passing day !).

What a surprise.. ::drnkpst::

drop dead you idiotic uneducated moron....when you have something of substance to add I'll look...untill then go boil your head

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:31 pm

Didge wrote:
Lone Wolf wrote:

Two braindead and substance abusing, hatemongering and non-thinking xenophobess pissing in each other's racist pockets...

(And Victor sounding more and more like Drinky with each passing day !).

What a surprise.. ::drnkpst::

The problem is Victor has no answers to my points hence his poor replies, he thinks we should be selfish and not share out the world

The problem is YOU have no answers to your points...you talk the talk, but you dont walk the walk....

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:38 pm

I easily answer your racism against Arabs, you use illogical stereotype view points, so we now know you are racist of course, swinging more to the far right daily

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:17 pm

Didge wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:the sad thing is that all these bleeding heart liberal idiots love something that they know nothing about

they want more cultural diversity

they want more foreigners

but the reality is that what they ACTUALLY get is not what they wanted, because what they want doesn't exist anywhere except in their minds

they have some delusion than a Pakistani Muslim will come skipping along with a big smile on his face and in a warm voice say "i love you Britain let me share my culture with you"

and they will all think "ooooo im about to be culturally enriched,this is great"

and it is great until that Muslim opens his trench coat and around his waist is a belt of explosives with the words "Muslim culture" written on it

Well we have accepted you, so clearly your view is that we should not have accepted you being as you are a foreigner, but being as most people are kind we even accept someone arguing against himself being here.
I mean you are a down and out utter racist, but we still accept you with all your faults

so im a foreigner now am i??

earlier you were saying i was British

any danger of you making up your mind

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:19 pm

Eilzel wrote:Oh smelly you are so full of bull crap your posts make the forum stink (maybe where you get your name?)

No one is actively asking for more people, immigration however is a part of life, always has been. Now if you don't not polluting the board with your inane drivel eh chap

if the truth is too heavy for you there is always the ignore feature

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:21 pm

Catman wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

yeah thats why you were shitting yourself the night all that lovely social cohesion broken down and London burned

There were riots up and down the country, you racist and homophobic ----, how many riots have there been over the last few decades anyway....DOH!

there were no riots in my part of the country,but then again i don't live in a culturally enriched area the way you do

from the way you were talking about the riots they sounded loads of fun

guess im missing out on the cultural enrichment you enjoyed that night

by Eilzel Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:23 pm

I could ignore you Smelly but you are far too much fun for that Wink

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:39 pm

no you cant, you can argue semantics and whether it makes a difference of fact if 1 or 10 or 10,000 changes that point...

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:44 pm

Eilzel wrote:I could ignore you Smelly but you are far too much fun for that

so i guess your outrage at my homophobia is purely manufactured

thought so

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:05 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

Nobody is suggesting anything of the sort man, for goodness sake.

Well that's what would happen. Don't call me "man".

..ok, just settle down

by eddie Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:16 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:the sad thing is that all these bleeding heart liberal idiots love something that they know nothing about

they want more cultural diversity

they want more foreigners

but the reality is that what they ACTUALLY get is not what they wanted, because what they want doesn't exist anywhere except in their minds

they have some delusion than a Pakistani Muslim will come skipping along with a big smile on his face and in a warm voice say "i love you Britain let me share my culture with you"

and they will all think "ooooo im about to be culturally enriched,this is great"

and it is great until that Muslim opens his trench coat and around his waist is a belt of explosives with the words "Muslim culture" written on it

That's only if you assume that every Muslim is a suicide bomber Rolling Eyes

by veya_victaous Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:27 pm

Simple answer to OP
NO
as a half caste I would never be born.
Also
it is stupid, everyone stayed where exactly? Is everyone allowed to move until Anglo get to England than everyone stays? there is a fair bit of evidence that the Celts took over a previous Race before the Saxons came. So what we go back and let this now extinct (or out bred race) have England?

Time moves forward :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch::

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:30 pm

No.... History consists of perpetual transmigration.

by Eilzel Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:37 pm

veya_victaous wrote:Simple answer to OP
NO
as a half caste I would never be born.
Also
it is stupid, everyone stayed where exactly? Is everyone allowed to move until Anglo get to England than everyone stays? there is a fair bit of evidence that the Celts took over a previous Race before the Saxons came. So what we go back and let this now extinct (or out bred race) have England?

Time moves forward :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch::

Great answer Veya Smile

The idea is grotesque, I have a partner who is of a different race; so for me the idea 'we' (as in a historically, culturally and racially defined group); shut our borders; don't mix with people of different colour, culture or creed, and defend our traditions against a world we want nothing to do with, is something that I shudder to think about.

by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:40 pm

I've always felt weird in situations where I was in a group of people and they were all the same ethnicity -- it's contrary to how I've grown up and just feels unnatural.

by Eilzel Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:43 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:I've always felt weird in situations where I was in a group of people and they were all the same ethnicity -- it's contrary to how I've grown up and just feels unnatural.

At this point in my life I can honestly say I feel totally cool with a bunch of black guys; oriental Asians or white Brits, or a mix haha Smile

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:48 pm

Probably because my earliest memories are living with all races and going to all kinds of festivals etc (earliest is probably at a Chinese New Year celebration when I was under 5 and it stayed in my memory). I had a Malay boyfriend when I was 17 etc etc. I couldn't stand just living with one type of people, it would be so damn boring. According to Smelly it's because we know nothing about diversity that we feel like this, actually, as the last few posts have shown, it's because we have experienced REAL diversity.

by eddie Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:52 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:I've always felt weird in situations where I was in a group of people and they were all the same ethnicity -- it's contrary to how I've grown up and just feels unnatural.

At this point in my life I can honestly say I feel totally cool with a bunch of black guys; oriental Asians or white Brits, or a mix haha

I have never known any different les, I was born and bred in London.
My first few boyfriends were black, mixed race and one Portuguese (boy was he hot!)

I still would like to tighten the borders though. We are becoming overcrowded and I do worry for my children's future.

Ben: As for feeling weird if I was with a bunch of people who,were the same ethnicity as me..... Erm no? Why would I?
That's just plain stupid and sounds like a bit of over-egging the pudding to me lol

by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:55 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:I've always felt weird in situations where I was in a group of people and they were all the same ethnicity -- it's contrary to how I've grown up and just feels unnatural.

At this point in my life I can honestly say I feel totally cool with a bunch of black guys; oriental Asians or white Brits, or a mix haha

I just think back to my best friends in high school -- my very best friend was of mixed white and Hispanic ancestry, two good friends were Vietnamese (they were brothers), a guy whose parents came from Mexico, a black guy, of course several white people ... that was just normal, we didn't even think about it at the time. We'd sometimes go to richer or poorer schools and they weren't as diverse as us, but we were all working class and got along with everyone, at least in terms of racial stuff.

In the lunch room, there were different races at the popular table, different races at the nerd table, different races at the scary-kid table -- people were in cliques based on their personality and interests more than anything else. Diversity is how I was raised and it feels way more normal and natural to me than people of the same skin color flocking together Smile

by Eilzel Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:56 pm

eddie wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

At this point in my life I can honestly say I feel totally cool with a bunch of black guys; oriental Asians or white Brits, or a mix haha

I have never known any different les, I was born and bred in London.
My first few boyfriends were black, mixed race and one Portuguese (boy was he hot!)

I still would like to tighten the borders though. We are becoming overcrowded and I do worry for my children's future.

As for feeling weird if I was with a bunch of people who,were the same ethnicity as me..... Erm no? Why would I?
That's just plain stupid and sounds like a bit of over-egging the pudding to me lol

To be fair that last part was Ben, and in his defense if that is how it is for him in Texas who are we to question; for me though of course I feel totally normal among all white people too Smile

I addressed the over crowding myth above, if we solved the real economic problems in this country over crowding would no more be even considered a problem any more than it is(n't) in South Korea and Japan.

To be fair though Eds your OP lays out a pretty direct and abrupt question Wink

by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:57 pm

eddie wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:I've always felt weird in situations where I was in a group of people and they were all the same ethnicity -- it's contrary to how I've grown up and just feels unnatural.

At this point in my life I can honestly say I feel totally cool with a bunch of black guys; oriental Asians or white Brits, or a mix haha

I have never known any different les, I was born and bred in London.
My first few boyfriends were black, mixed race and one Portuguese (boy was he hot!)

I still would like to tighten the borders though. We are becoming overcrowded and I do worry for my children's future.

Ben: As for feeling weird if I was with a bunch of people who,were the same ethnicity as me..... Erm no? Why would I?
That's just plain stupid and sounds like a bit of over-egging the pudding to me lol

To be fair, I wasn't asking if you felt natural in those situations, I was just saying how I feel Smile

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:58 pm

Do you know where we were on the list of the top populations by density last year? 53rd

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

It's absolutely rubbish to say we are overcrowded. We have some areas that are overcrowded, but that is because we are stupid enough not to plan where industry, jobs and housing for the population goes and how it is planned. And we don't give those problems enough resources.

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