Would you rather each race stayed in their homeland?

by eddie Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:15 am

First topic message reminder :

I am asking this question as I want to know WHY each poster who is against multiculturalism, would prefer England to stay English.

Would you prefer 100% ALL English?
Perhaps a ratio of 20/80? 95/5?

Is it a certain race or all races?

Lastly, WHY would it make your world a better place?

(Can we keep away from boring and long-arse C&P's and have OPINIONS please?)

I like a little mix, bit of this and a bit of that. I'm not into plain boiled rice and a little seasoning is best.
However, IMO i think the borders should've been closed years ago (though how do you deny entry to a really needy family with children?) because we are very, very overcrowded!
I would prefer more Englishness than not and I would hate to lose it altogether.
I do love a piece of culture but I don't want to drown in other cultures because I like my rice to taste like rice and not be so heavily spiced and seasoned that I can't taste that it was rice in the first place.

I love all cultures and I like peace. But I love my country too.
Peace out.
Rice is nice finely spiced Cool

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:00 am

victorisnotamused wrote:sound like a plan to me......

says the druid lol!

by Eilzel Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:19 am

Smelly is white S'African Eds, so he tells us Wink

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:42 pm

eddie wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:the sad thing is that all these bleeding heart liberal idiots love something that they know nothing about

they want more cultural diversity

they want more foreigners

but the reality is that what they ACTUALLY get is not what they wanted, because what they want doesn't exist anywhere except in their minds

they have some delusion than a Pakistani Muslim will come skipping along with a big smile on his face and in a warm voice say "i love you Britain let me share my culture with you"

and they will all think "ooooo im about to be culturally enriched,this is great"

and it is great until that Muslim opens his trench coat and around his waist is a belt of explosives with the words "Muslim culture" written on it

That's only if you assume that every Muslim is a suicide bomber

this is price of tolerance

this is price for you to say "i don't judge all Muslims"

Would you rather each race stayed in their homeland? - Page 4 7-8lon11

are you willing to pay it??

or are you just willing to makes others pay it for you

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:09 pm

eddie wrote:I thought smelly was white?

But not born here or raised here, he's an immigrant same as the others, a Boer Bore.

by eddie Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:04 pm

Oh yeah I remember now.....

Do you live here, and how long then smelly?

by Eilzel Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:42 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
eddie wrote:

That's only if you assume that every Muslim is a suicide bomber

this is price of tolerance

this is price for you to say "i don't judge all Muslims"

are you willing to pay it??

or are you just willing to makes others pay it for you

A single successful terrorist attack, an admittedly horrific and heartbreaking one, 9 years ago- and you cite that a reason we should be intolerant of Muslims in general? Rolling Eyes

by eddie Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:42 pm

That's why I didn't bother answering that post Les Cool

by David Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:49 pm

eddie wrote:That's why I didn't bother answering that post Les

Hi Twin on other threads I have asked him for his age, his community in SA, when he came here?

The answer is: NADA

He avoids... study

by eddie Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:51 pm

David wrote:
eddie wrote:That's why I didn't bother answering that post Les

Hi Twin on other threads I have asked him for his age, his community in SA, when he came here?

The answer is: NADA

He avoids...

Hi Twin,
I do vaguely remember something of this when he said he was from SA before....can't remember which forum..ADO?
Anyway, he obviously doesn't know of your origins lol x

by Ben Reilly Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:53 pm

eddie wrote:That's why I didn't bother answering that post Les

But if I know smelly's type, and I think I do, he thinks he's won if nobody responds.

This was done by Christian Conservatives in Oklahoma City:

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Would you rather each race stayed in their homeland? - Page 4 Oklahoma-city-bombing-4

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Are we willing to pay the price of having another Oklahoma City because of our tolerance of right-wing Christians?

by David Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:55 pm

eddie wrote:
David wrote:

Hi Twin on other threads I have asked him for his age, his community in SA, when he came here?

The answer is: NADA

He avoids...

Hi Twin,
I do vaguely remember something of this when he said he was from SA before....can't remember which forum..ADO?
Anyway, he obviously doesn't know of your origins lol x

He is from SA. Yes ADO and Inaflap as well. He tries to ignore me because indeed of my origins lol

by eddie Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:02 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:That's why I didn't bother answering that post Les

But if I know smelly's type, and I think I do, he thinks he's won if nobody responds.

This was done by Christian Conservatives in Oklahoma City:

Are we willing to pay the price of having another Oklahoma City because of our tolerance of right-wing Christians?

There is bad in all religions and races.
I have no idea why someone couldn't see that.

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:07 pm

Eilzel wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

this is price of tolerance

this is price for you to say "i don't judge all Muslims"

are you willing to pay it??

or are you just willing to makes others pay it for you

A single successful terrorist attack, an admittedly horrific and heartbreaking one, 9 years ago- and you cite that a reason we should be intolerant of Muslims in general?

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how many more reasons do you want????

by Ben Reilly Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:08 pm

I realized why you call yourself smelly, you're full of shit! ::D::

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:12 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:That's why I didn't bother answering that post Les

But if I know smelly's type, and I think I do, he thinks he's won if nobody responds.

This was done by Christian Conservatives in Oklahoma City:

Are we willing to pay the price of having another Oklahoma City because of our tolerance of right-wing Christians?

what was the motivating factor??

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:14 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

But if I know smelly's type, and I think I do, he thinks he's won if nobody responds.

This was done by Christian Conservatives in Oklahoma City:

Are we willing to pay the price of having another Oklahoma City because of our tolerance of right-wing Christians?

what was the motivating factor??

There should not be one , Killing and maiming people...babies and all.

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:16 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

But if I know smelly's type, and I think I do, he thinks he's won if nobody responds.

This was done by Christian Conservatives in Oklahoma City:

Are we willing to pay the price of having another Oklahoma City because of our tolerance of right-wing Christians?

what was the motivating factor??

The lure of terror
For years, psychologists examined terrorists' individual characteristics, mining for clues that could explain their willingness to engage in violence. While researchers now agree that most terrorists are not "pathological" in any traditional sense, several important insights have been gleaned though interviews with some 60 former terrorists conducted by psychologist John Horgan, PhD, who directs the Pennsylvania State University's International Center for the Study of Terrorism.
Horgan found that people who are more open to terrorist recruitment and radicalization tend to:
Feel angry, alienated or disenfranchised. Believe that their current political involvement does not give them the power to effect real change. Identify with perceived victims of the social injustice they are fighting. Feel the need to take action rather than just talking about the problem. Believe that engaging in violence against the state is not immoral. Have friends or family sympathetic to the cause. Believe that joining a movement offers social and psychological rewards such as adventure, camaraderie and a heightened sense of identity.
Beyond the individual characteristics of terrorists, Horgan has learned that it's more fruitful to investigate how people change as a result of terrorist involvement than to simply ask why they enter in the first place. That's because asking why tends to yield pat, ideological responses, while asking how reveals important information about the processes of entry, involvement and leaving organizations, he has found. Potential areas to tap include examining the myriad ways people join organizations, whether via recruitment or personal decision; how leaders influence people's decision to adopt certain roles, for example by glorifying the role of suicide bomber; and factors that motivate people to leave.
In turn, such data could help to create plausible interventions, he says. For instance, based on what he's gleaned about why people leave organizations, a particularly promising strategy may be highlighting how the promised glamorous lifestyle never comes to pass—an experience poignantly recounted by a former terrorist now in hiding. The man told Horgan he was lured into a movement as a teen when recruiters romanticized the cause. But he soon discovered his comrades held sectarian values, not the idealistic ones he had, and he was horrified when he killed his first victim at point-blank range.
"The reality of involvement is not what these kids are led to believe," says Horgan. "Speaking with repentant former terrorists, many with blood on their hands, offers an extraordinary opportunity to use the terrorists' own words and deeds against them."
Some psychologists believe terrorism is most accurately viewed through a political lens. Psychologist Clark McCauley, PhD, a co-investigator at START and director of the Solomon Asch Center for Study of Ethnopolitical Conflict at Bryn Mawr College, has come to see terrorism as "the warfare of the weak"—the means by which groups that lack material or political power fight what they see as oppressive forces. As such, he believes that terrorist actions and government reactions to them represent a dynamic interplay, with the moves of one group influencing those of the other. As one example, if terrorists commit an attack and a state uses extreme force to send a punishing message back, the terrorists may use that action to drum up greater anti-state sentiment among citizens, lending justification to their next actions. Yet research focuses almost solely on terrorist actions and neglects the important other side of the equation, he contends. "If you can't keep track of what we're doing in response, how can you ever hope to figure out what works better or worse?" McCauley says.

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:07 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:sound like a plan to me......
says the druid

we have prior claim i believe????? Including 90% of church and other "holy sites"

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:11 pm

hmmm...very nasty folks these "abrahamist fundamentalists" ..christian muslim jewish fundamentalists

along with other high profile religions.....

you dont get wiccans and druids doing THAT sort of thing do we??? at least...not in the name of their belief.

by Raggamuffin Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:05 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:hmmm...very nasty folks these "abrahamist fundamentalists" ..christian muslim jewish fundamentalists

along with other high profile religions.....

you dont get wiccans and druids doing THAT sort of thing do we??? at least...not in the name of their belief.

Do you not get wiccan and druid fundamentalists then? Surprised

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:26 pm

Not as far as I'm aware, since wicca and druidism are innately peaceful, unlike wiccans however(who are pacifists in general) , Druids will willingly fight in defence. There is No NEED for "fundamentalism" since neither wicca or druidry seek "converts", and aknowledge equity for all beliefs, considering that eventually ALL paths lead to the truth....
NOR do wiccans or druids proselytize NOR do we discriminate (and have not for far more years than even the govt)
against gays (for which Catsick is so grateful) or women....

by veya_victaous Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:45 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:hmmm...very nasty folks these "abrahamist fundamentalists" ..christian muslim jewish fundamentalists

along with other high profile religions.....

you dont get wiccans and druids doing THAT sort of thing do we??? at least...not in the name of their belief.

Do you not get wiccan and druid fundamentalists then?

Not really Neutral

the church BURNED THEM ALL Evil or Very Mad

by Guest Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:57 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Do you not get wiccan and druid fundamentalists then?

Not really the church BURNED THEM ALL

which really says more about the "church" than anything else

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:29 am

Joy Division wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

what was the motivating factor??

There should not be one , Killing and maiming people...babies and all.

but there is one or several ones

what were they

by veya_victaous Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:53 am

@smelly
Are you talking about all those abortion clinic bombing by those Terrorist Christians?

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:54 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Do you not get wiccan and druid fundamentalists then?

Not really the church BURNED THEM ALL

are you a wiccan ?

by veya_victaous Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:08 am

@VOD
No, I am still searching for enlightenment but quite admire 'the Dreaming' which is sort of Neolithic pagan scratch

I don't think they had Wiccan 40,000 years ago.

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by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:23 am

@veya it is beautiful i have to admit i love the colours

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:30 pm

Sassy wrote:Do you know where we were on the list of the top populations by density last year? 53rd

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

It's absolutely rubbish to say we are overcrowded. We have some areas that are overcrowded, but that is because we are stupid enough not to plan where industry, jobs and housing for the population goes and how it is planned. And we don't give those problems enough resources.

Yeah great idea sassy...lets invite everyone over here....we could concrete over what little bit of green we have left save a few small areas of species depleted "countryside theme parks" specially conditioned for the townies......who of course would be too ignorant about what species depleted means to realise that a dozen crows, a few ex landfill site gulls and a couple of mangy foxes DOES NOT constitute "countryside" .

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:08 pm

Nobody is suggesting inviting everyone here, and I am all for keeping immigration down. But the way people get their knickers in a twist about the number of people we have here is simply ridiculous. Are you say Guernsey and Jersey have no countryside and no wildlife? Because the are 14th and 13th on the list. Malta is 8th. China is obviously top of the list, but you know who is 2nd - somewhere that people go because it is beautiful - Monaco!

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

Perspective is everything.

Go over Britain in a plane and it is still a very green and pleasant land.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:20 pm

yeah? 10 years ago, (had I stayed where I was at that time living) I could walk to the end of my road....and out into open country side...If I was living there now....i'd have to drive to walk my dog.....

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:27 pm

And 10 years ago if I had stayed were I was, they built office buildings between me and the M5 in an area I used to walk my dogs. Is the world ever going to stand still - no. Is the vast majority of the country overcrowded in any way - no. Do we have pockets of overcrowding - yes. Are we better off than many - yes. Are we going to get overrun with no countryside - most definitely not.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:30 pm

Sassy wrote:And 10 years ago if I had stayed were I was, they built office buildings between me and the M5 in an area I used to walk my dogs. Is the world ever going to stand still - no. Is the vast majority of the country overcrowded in any way - no. Do we have pockets of overcrowding - yes. Are we better off than many - yes. Are we going to get overrun with no countryside - most definitely not.

Have you ever been on a flight, that gets held in a holding patern to land at Gatwick airport?

It's all mostly green!

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:32 pm

Catman wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:

That sounds lovely Mr Catman.

And where is it you live?

In SE London, there aint no racism or homophobia around here, or they wouldn't dare show it, anyway.

You posted that the other day a youth made a gun shooting sign at you.

You have also posted about your neighbours, there didnt seem to be much harmony there?

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:35 pm

Catman wrote:
Sassy wrote:And 10 years ago if I had stayed were I was, they built office buildings between me and the M5 in an area I used to walk my dogs. Is the world ever going to stand still - no. Is the vast majority of the country overcrowded in any way - no. Do we have pockets of overcrowding - yes. Are we better off than many - yes. Are we going to get overrun with no countryside - most definitely not.

Have you ever been on a flight, that gets held in a holding patern to land at Gatwick airport?

It's all mostly green!

It is indeed, in fact the thing that grabs your attention as you fly back over England is how green it is.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:39 pm

This thread is quite interesting. I think most would agree that immigration has been uncontrolled and not been of benefit to England or at least to the majority of the population. If you live in some areas of the affluent south where the population is majority elderly white there isnt an immigration problem. Try to get your child into an English speaking school in some parts of our Northern citiies and you will see there very definitely is a problem. We are all influenced by what affects us.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:47 pm

Sassy wrote:
Catman wrote:

Have you ever been on a flight, that gets held in a holding patern to land at Gatwick airport?

It's all mostly green!

It is indeed, in fact the thing that grabs your attention as you fly back over England is how green it is.

So....There is still enough land to be building housing on, without spoiling the countryside IMO.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:49 pm

Sassy wrote:And 10 years ago if I had stayed were I was, they built office buildings between me and the M5 in an area I used to walk my dogs. Is the world ever going to stand still - no. Is the vast majority of the country overcrowded in any way - no.

Over crowded/open countryside.....not the same argument

Do we have pockets of overcrowding - yes. Are we better off than many - yes.

funny how THAT argument can be applied here....yet if someone was to use the same argument to say to our disadvantaged poor there would be holy hell to pay??? being the best turd in the potty is hardly the best of all situations

Are we going to get overrun with no countryside - most definitely not.

Are we going to get overrun with no accessible countryside.....almost certainly

by eddie Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:50 pm

Nems wrote:This thread is quite interesting. I think most would agree that immigration has been uncontrolled and not been of benefit to England or at least to the majority of the population. If you live in some areas of the affluent south where the population is majority elderly white there isnt an immigration problem. Try to get your child into an English speaking school in some parts of our Northern citiies and you will see there very definitely is a problem. We are all influenced by what affects us.

That's exactly it nems, it all depends on where you live.
Its very easy to say its all lovely when you live in an area that doesn't have housing problems or there are only a few people that pepper your area with their interesting ethnicity.
Just upmthe road from me i am in the minority.
If i get on a bus there's a chance i wont hear any spoken English at all.

Is that a problem? It is when youmconsider that ten years ago when i moved here that really wasnt the case.

(excuse my poor grammar and spelling on OH ipad and its shite)

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:50 pm

Nems wrote:This thread is quite interesting. I think most would agree that immigration has been uncontrolled and not been of benefit to England or at least to the majority of the population. If you live in some areas of the affluent south where the population is majority elderly white there isnt an immigration problem. Try to get your child into an English speaking school in some parts of our Northern citiies and you will see there very definitely is a problem. We are all influenced by what affects us.

We would? Who says most would agree. Many people living in built up areas love the fact is cosmopolitan, it's what draws them there. I'd like proof that it hasn't benfited the majority of the population, in fact a programme on tv last night showed that it had. Neither is it true that older people live in the south and younger in the north, in fact that quite a ridiculous statement to make. All schools are english speaking.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:52 pm

eddie wrote:
Nems wrote:This thread is quite interesting. I think most would agree that immigration has been uncontrolled and not been of benefit to England or at least to the majority of the population. If you live in some areas of the affluent south where the population is majority elderly white there isnt an immigration problem. Try to get your child into an English speaking school in some parts of our Northern citiies and you will see there very definitely is a problem. We are all influenced by what affects us.

That's exactly it nems, it all depends on where you live.
Its very easy to say its all lovely when you live in an area that doesn't have housing problems or there are only a few people that pepper your area with their interesting ethnicity.
Just upmthe road from me i am in the minority.
If i get on a bus there's a chance i wont hear any spoken English at all.

Is that a problem? It is when youmconsider that ten years ago when i moved here that really wasnt the case.

(excuse my poor grammar and spelling on OH ipad and its shite)

And yet at the same time there are villages that are dying because rich people are buying second homes and never using them.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:53 pm

Catman wrote:
Sassy wrote:

It is indeed, in fact the thing that grabs your attention as you fly back over England is how green it is.

So....There is still enough land to be building housing on, without spoiling the countryside IMO.

yes actually, there is.....start confiscating brownfield land in the cities ...and build on that ....10's of 1000's of acres available....

MAKE the cities upgrade and USE the 10's of 1000's of "shuttered up houses that you see when driving around.....

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:53 pm

Catman wrote:
Sassy wrote:

It is indeed, in fact the thing that grabs your attention as you fly back over England is how green it is.

So....There is still enough land to be building housing on, without spoiling the countryside IMO.

yes actually, there is.....start confiscating brownfield land in the cities ...and build on that ....10's of 1000's of acres available....

MAKE the cities upgrade and USE the 10's of 1000's of "shuttered up houses that you see when driving around.....

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:57 pm

Sassy wrote:
eddie wrote:

That's exactly it nems, it all depends on where you live.
Its very easy to say its all lovely when you live in an area that doesn't have housing problems or there are only a few people that pepper your area with their interesting ethnicity.
Just upmthe road from me i am in the minority.
If i get on a bus there's a chance i wont hear any spoken English at all.

Is that a problem? It is when youmconsider that ten years ago when i moved here that really wasnt the case.

(excuse my poor grammar and spelling on OH ipad and its shite)

And yet at the same time there are villages that are dying because rich people are buying second homes and never using them.

yep and I've had a comment or two to say about that too....NO-ONE should have a "second home" so all second homes subject to double council tax

subject to 100% stamp duty

plus a 500% purchase tax....

or just outlaw it full stop.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:57 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Sassy wrote:And 10 years ago if I had stayed were I was, they built office buildings between me and the M5 in an area I used to walk my dogs. Is the world ever going to stand still - no. Is the vast majority of the country overcrowded in any way - no.

Over crowded/open countryside.....not the same argument

Do we have pockets of overcrowding - yes. Are we better off than many - yes.

funny how THAT argument can be applied here....yet if someone was to use the same argument to say to our disadvantaged poor there would be holy hell to pay??? being the best turd in the potty is hardly the best of all situations

Are we going to get overrun with no countryside - most definitely not.

Are we going to get overrun with no accessible countryside.....almost certainly

Of course we are not, nowhere near, not even an option.

Honestly, do you think the world is going to stand still and we are going to go back to Victorian times - Lord help us if we did.

I've moved out of Colchester, to get away from memories, but I really miss the buzz on occasions, with so many different cultures etc. We have a few here, Thai, Indian, Pakistani.

by eddie Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:58 pm

Sassy wrote:
eddie wrote:

That's exactly it nems, it all depends on where you live.
Its very easy to say its all lovely when you live in an area that doesn't have housing problems or there are only a few people that pepper your area with their interesting ethnicity.
Just upmthe road from me i am in the minority.
If i get on a bus there's a chance i wont hear any spoken English at all.

Is that a problem? It is when youmconsider that ten years ago when i moved here that really wasnt the case.

(excuse my poor grammar and spelling on OH ipad and its shite)

And yet at the same time there are villages that are dying because rich people are buying second homes and never using them.

Im not sure what that has to do with my post lol

I yhink the point is, if one hasnt been affected by immigration then one will not see the problems?
I have, and i do.

Jeez even my close friend who's Bulgarian but been here nearly eleven years now, agrees that it's becoming a problem!

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:58 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Catman wrote:

So....There is still enough land to be building housing on, without spoiling the countryside IMO.

yes actually, there is.....start confiscating brownfield land in the cities ...and build on that ....10's of 1000's of acres available....

MAKE the cities upgrade and USE the 10's of 1000's of "shuttered up houses that you see when driving around.....

Absolutely! As I said, it's the way it's being managed and the will to do it.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:00 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Catman wrote:

So....There is still enough land to be building housing on, without spoiling the countryside IMO.

yes actually, there is.....start confiscating brownfield land in the cities ...and build on that ....10's of 1000's of acres available....

MAKE the cities upgrade and USE the 10's of 1000's of "shuttered up houses that you see when driving around.....

Why not build new housing in countryside locations though as well, what do you have against that idea?

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:01 pm

eddie wrote:
Sassy wrote:

And yet at the same time there are villages that are dying because rich people are buying second homes and never using them.

Im not sure what that has to do with my post lol

I yhink the point is, if one hasnt been affected by immigration then one will not see the problems?
I have, and i do.

Jeez even my close friend who's Bulgarian but been here nearly eleven years now, agrees that it's becoming a problem!

Only because, once people get here they become one of 'us' and start to see other people as outsiders. I'm sure the people she is talking about will say the same thing 10 years down the line. As Victor said, use the land in cities that's going to waste to build on.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:11 pm

Catman wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:

yes actually, there is.....start confiscating brownfield land in the cities ...and build on that ....10's of 1000's of acres available....

MAKE the cities upgrade and USE the 10's of 1000's of "shuttered up houses that you see when driving around.....

Why not build new housing in countryside locations though as well, what do you have against that idea?

generally the people that move in.

Townies with NO understanding of rural matters, Dont know follow or have any desire to learn and follow the country code.
chuck litter everywhere in the rural location
Complain to the council about the farm's free range cockerel crowing at 4 am ..UHMMMM...the cockerel was there FIRST.......
complain to the council about the smell when the farmers start muckspreading....
want everything for miles around "tidied".. to suit their "concept" of the countryside...(despite their penchant for throwing their mcD's wrappers everywhere.....)
so all footpaths suddennly get a stone dressed surface and the brush either side cut back for yards..in case they get their little leggies nettled I've seen it all over time catman...here and there....what was open and natural countryside "tidied" to suit the delicate souls and thus ruined.....

NOW there IS a way round it of course....a simple legally binding agreement for everyone to sign when buying rural property...

thatb you cant complain about rural noise
rural smells
and that you "take it as you find it"

thats not to mention of course the collateral damage of increased traffic on the rural roads....that quiet country lane you bought the house on suddenly becomes a race track for the BMW's so your reasonably cat safe home suddenly becomes a cat splat zone.....

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