Arlington Texas school shooting

by Original Quill Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:28 pm

Timberview High School, Mansfield, TX, has been the site of another school shooting. Just breaking, so no details are available. A fight between two students resulted in shootings. This High School is right in the middle of the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, so several police departments have responded.

Four victims...a teacher and 3 students. Two are presently in surgery. High School is evacuated. Timothy George Simpson is the suspect...he is on the loose.

by Maddog Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:17 pm

He won't be on the run long. They have has plates, car make and model.

No doubt they are tracking his phone.

Dumb kid fucked up his life over a stupid fight.

Of course knowing that he was carrying, he was already well on his way to fucking up his life.

by Maddog Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:41 pm

For what they are worth, comments on the Arlington PD Facebook page indicate he got beat up. Went home and retrieved a gun, and came back for some vengeance.

Could be a bullying issue.

Kids driving a pretty nice car. Either mom or dad have a decent income, or he's found a way to make a good living in high school.

by Maddog Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:48 pm

Well, he's captured.

by Original Quill Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:10 pm

Maddog wrote:For what they are worth, comments on the Arlington PD Facebook page indicate he got beat up. Went home and retrieved a gun, and came back for some vengeance.

Could be a bullying issue.

Didn't see the Facebook page, but that same thing occurred to me.

by Original Quill Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:13 pm

Maddog wrote:Kids driving a pretty nice car. Either mom or dad have a decent income, or he's found a way to make a good living in high school.

Right. A silver, 2018 Dodge Charger. I'd like to know how he came across that, too. Could be spoilt...perhaps over-protected.

by Maddog Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:52 pm

From a friend of mine who lives in the area..........

He turned himself in with an attorney. I talked to a kid who was in class with him this morning. The shooter lived with his grandma on the street over from us. He’s apparently been bullied a lot by the same kid that was beating him up in the video and ended up resorting to the gun in his backpack, which he didn’t know how to shoot and thus shot multiple people including his teacher. The parents/grandma had gone to the school to tell them about the bullying on numerous occasions and apparently nothing was done about it. Such a sad and scary situation. The boy I talked to said that fights like that are common in classes and that kids carry guns and knives in their backpacks frequently.

by Original Quill Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:06 pm

Poor kid. You just know that he's never going to get a good shake in life...not after this.

by Original Quill Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:33 pm

The Dallas Morning News wrote:Family of Arlington school shooting suspect says he was robbed, bullied

Police identified 18-year-old Timothy George Simpkins, a student, as a suspect in the shooting.

The motivations of the alleged attacker in Wednesday’s Arlington school shooting remain unknown, but he apparently acted after a fight, and family members said he had been bullied.

Police arrested Timothy George Simpkins, 18, in the morning shooting at Timberview High School in the Mansfield Independent School District.

A woman who identified herself as Simpkins’ mother said he was bullied. But she declined to comment Wednesday afternoon outside Simpkins’ grandmother’s home in Arlington as law enforcement searched the residence.

Cint Wheat, his cousin, wrote in a Facebook post, “At the end of the day my lil cousin was bullied. I don’t know to feel about this he not no bad kid.”

Later in the evening, Carol Harrison Lafayette, who said she’s a family member speaking for the family, said at the house that Simpkins was robbed before the attack happened.

“He was robbed,” she said. “It was recorded. It happened not just once, it happened twice. He was scared, he was afraid.”

“There is no justification of anybody … being hurt,” she said, adding, “We have to take a look at the fact that bullying is real. And it takes us all. And I do apologize. We ask as a family for forgiveness of any type of hurt.”

When asked at a news conference about bullying concerns some parents have voiced, Donald Williams, Mansfield ISD’s associate superintendent of communications, said that the district is conducting a full investigation of the shooting and its cause.

“What I will say to that is we take the safety and security of our students in our faculty and staff seriously,” he said.

Four people were injured — including a 15-year-old boy who was critically wounded, during the morning shooting. Simpkins was taken into custody hours later after surrendering with the help of an attorney.

Here’s what we know about Simpkins and the shooting so far:

He is an 18-year-old student at Timberview High School in Arlington.

A fight reportedly broke out in a second-story classroom at the school, followed by the shooting. The suspect fled the scene after the shooting.

Police began to look for the car Simpkins drives, a 2018 silver Dodge Charger. The vehicle was found at an apartment complex in Grand Prairie.

Simpkins turned himself in to authorities at about 1:15 p.m., and with an attorney, was speaking to detectives.
Timothy George Simpkins

Timothy George Simpkins (Uncredited / ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Police said they would seek three charges of aggravated assault against Simpkins. He was booked into the Arlington jail just before 2 p.m., and his bail was set at $75,000.

A social media video circulating appears to show someone who looks like Simpkins in a fight at the school, but police said they can’t verify that it is from the school yet.

Police don’t know how the shooter got a gun into the school. Grand Prairie police recovered a .45-caliber handgun on England Parkway and federal authorities are seeking to determine whether it was used in the shooting.

About 2:30 p.m., a SWAT team executed a search warrant at the home where he lives with his grandmother. The Edgefield neighborhood is a relatively new development with limestone and brick facades.

Simpkins’ social media accounts appear to have been active early Wednesday but the accounts are no longer available.

Lafayette said Simpkins is an outgoing, well-liked, loving person.

“He was looking forward to graduating and doing something with his life,” she said.

by Maddog Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:53 pm

Original Quill wrote:Poor kid. You just know that he's never going to get a good shake in life...not after this.

Nope, he's 18, not a juvi, and has made a decision that will impact his life for ever.

Let's hope the kid he shot survives. If he dies, two lives will end up being wasted.

by Original Quill Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:18 pm

18 is just an arbitrary number. Southern society can be overly cruel, especially when it singles out a lone, black kid.

by Maddog Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:20 pm

Original Quill wrote:18 is just an arbitrary number. Southern society can be overly cruel, especially when it singles out a lone, black kid.

It's 18 everywhere in the US.

He's an adult.

by Original Quill Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:00 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:18 is just an arbitrary number. Southern society can be overly cruel, especially when it singles out a lone, black kid.

It's 18 everywhere in the US.

He's an adult.

18 or 80, you know how southern society treats blacks. I know how vulnerable my siblings and I were at age 18...imagine being black, in a racist culture, as well. Confused and broken by bullying, having no one to turn to, this kid was just handed a bad deal.

He's not in a pristine role, like George Floyd was, nor in an untainted environment, like Minnesota. He's a black kid, who pulled a gun - for whatever reason - in a southern state. Left or right...he'll receive the criticism from all sides, and get the book thrown at him.

by Maddog Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:20 am

Every fucking thread.

by eddie Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:11 pm

Guns. Another story about people being shot up unnecessarily.

by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:20 pm

Original Quill wrote:18 is just an arbitrary number. Southern society can be overly cruel, especially when it singles out a lone, black kid.

I've been to Mansfield Timberview High School many times when I covered high school sports, and let me promise you, that school has a large black population, so chances are that the kids picking on him were also black, at least some of them.

Mansfield itself is 19 percent black, compared to the 5.5 percent of San Franciscans who are black, for example.

Also, Mansfield is very much its own city and very much not Arlington.

by Maddog Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:28 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Original Quill wrote:18 is just an arbitrary number. Southern society can be overly cruel, especially when it singles out a lone, black kid.

I've been to Mansfield Timberview High School many times when I covered high school sports, and let me promise you, that school has a large black population, so chances are that the kids picking on him were also black, at least some of them.

Mansfield itself is 19 percent black, compared to the 5.5 percent of San Franciscans who are black, for example.

Also, Mansfield is very much its own city and very much not Arlington.

The kid beating the hell out of him was black.

Timberview is actually in the city of Arlington and serves kids in the Mansfield school district. Those kids live in Mansfield, Grand Prairie and Arlington.

Confusing eh?

I'm surprised that the city of Mansfield is 19% black. I would not be surprised at all that the Mansfield ISD is 19% black.

by Maddog Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:45 pm

Ben does bring up a good point about many progressives that talk shit. They often do it from very white, exclusive enclaves where they don't have to mix with the commoners they often claim to support. .

by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:54 pm

Maddog wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
Original Quill wrote:18 is just an arbitrary number. Southern society can be overly cruel, especially when it singles out a lone, black kid.

I've been to Mansfield Timberview High School many times when I covered high school sports, and let me promise you, that school has a large black population, so chances are that the kids picking on him were also black, at least some of them.

Mansfield itself is 19 percent black, compared to the 5.5 percent of San Franciscans who are black, for example.

Also, Mansfield is very much its own city and very much not Arlington.

The kid beating the hell out of him was black.

Timberview is actually in the city of Arlington and serves kids in the Mansfield school district. Those kids live in Mansfield, Grand Prairie and Arlington.

Confusing eh?

I'm surprised that the city of Mansfield is 19% black. I would not be surprised at all that the Mansfield ISD is 19% black.

Thanks for clarifying; that was something I once knew but had forgotten about.

by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:56 pm

Maddog wrote:Ben does bring up a good point about many progressives that talk shit. They often do it from very white, exclusive enclaves where they don't have to mix with the commoners they often claim to support. .

The problem with that is that progressives like that end up becoming the mirror image of right-wing racists in that they have to make everything about race, which is also racism.

The solution to racism isn't to bash one group or another, but to recognise that race has nothing to do with the character of an individual.

by Maddog Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:00 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Maddog wrote:

The kid beating the hell out of him was black.

Timberview is actually in the city of Arlington and serves kids in the Mansfield school district. Those kids live in Mansfield, Grand Prairie and Arlington.

Confusing eh?

I'm surprised that the city of Mansfield is 19% black. I would not be surprised at all that the Mansfield ISD is 19% black.

Thanks for clarifying; that was something I once knew but had forgotten about.

School district boundaries are weird out in the burbs because cities aren't constrained by them when they annex land.

I'll bet the city of Ft Worth has students in a dozen different school districts..

by eddie Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:00 pm

Don’t take Quill’s fun away! It was a story about a BLACK kid and he got excited when he thought it was WHITES being bad to BLACKS!

by Maddog Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:04 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Maddog wrote:Ben does bring up a good point about many progressives that talk shit. They often do it from very white, exclusive enclaves where they don't have to mix with the commoners they often claim to support. .

The problem with that is that progressives like that end up becoming the mirror image of right-wing racists in that they have to make everything about race, which is also racism.

The solution to racism isn't to bash one group or another, but to recognise that race has nothing to do with the character of an individual.

Exactly. This story being a case in point.

Race had nothing to do with this, unless someone wants to make the claim that black bullies beating on black victims are ignored amd and not punished.

As for bullying, I do think we are more cognizant of it in schools, although I'm not sure we know what to do about it when we see it, regardless of the ethnicity of the folks involved.

by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:17 pm

Bullying is a huge problem, more of a problem than most people realise, I think. And yeah, nobody really knows what to do yet.

Just to embarassingly bare my soul a bit, I got bullied quite a lot when I was in school, and I am still, at the age of nearly 47, grappling with problems stemming from it.

by Maddog Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:26 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Bullying is a huge problem, more of a problem than most people realise, I think. And yeah, nobody really knows what to do yet.

Just to embarassingly bare my soul a bit, I got bullied quite a lot when I was in school, and I am still, at the age of nearly 47, grappling with problems stemming from it.

Yeah, kids can be assholes..

Heck, so can their parents.

by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:39 pm

Maddog wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:Bullying is a huge problem, more of a problem than most people realise, I think. And yeah, nobody really knows what to do yet.

Just to embarassingly bare my soul a bit, I got bullied quite a lot when I was in school, and I am still, at the age of nearly 47, grappling with problems stemming from it.

Yeah, kids can be assholes..

Heck, so can their parents.

I think if people fully realised how much shit they pass on to their children in terms of bad behavior, etc., the human race would probably go extinct, because everyone would be too horrified to procreate Smile

by Original Quill Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:14 pm

eddie wrote:Don’t take Quill’s fun away! It was a story about a BLACK kid and he got excited when he thought it was WHITES being bad to BLACKS!

Originally, this was a story about a shooting, where one kid was bullying another. I've only added to the original story that in the south, a black kid is lost in the system.

To the authorities there, a black kid is part of those "OTHER" people, and dropped off in the abyss of nothingness.

Black or white, a bullied kid would still get my sympathy. It's just the plain truth...but a truth that we've grown scar tissue over to cover it up. Twisted Evil

by Maddog Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:36 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Don’t take Quill’s fun away! It was a story about a BLACK kid and he got excited when he thought it was WHITES being bad to BLACKS!

Originally, this was a story about a shooting, where one kid was bullying another. I've only added to the original story that in the south, a black kid is lost in the system.

To the authorities there, a black kid is part of those "OTHER" people, and dropped off in the abyss of nothingness.

Black or white, a bullied kid would still get my sympathy. It's just the plain truth...but a truth that we've grown scar tissue over to cover it up.

What you have done is what you always do.

Bring race and location into a conversation that it shouldn't be.

You can't help yourself. I don't know what in the fuck is wrong with you,.but surely there are some good mental health professionals in San Francisco.

by Original Quill Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:21 am

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Originally, this was a story about a shooting, where one kid was bullying another. I've only added to the original story that in the south, a black kid is lost in the system.

To the authorities there, a black kid is part of those "OTHER" people, and dropped off in the abyss of nothingness.

Black or white, a bullied kid would still get my sympathy. It's just the plain truth...but a truth that we've grown scar tissue over to cover it up.

What you have done is what you always do.

Bring race and location into a conversation that it shouldn't be.

You can't help yourself. I don't know what in the fuck is wrong with you,.but surely there are some good mental health professionals in San Francisco.

I don't understand. Every time blacks are mentioned, you guys go into 'fight' mode. If I were to mention chess or volleyball, or any other subject, it would just be business as usual. But blacks? You go bananas.

by eddie Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:06 am

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Don’t take Quill’s fun away! It was a story about a BLACK kid and he got excited when he thought it was WHITES being bad to BLACKS!

Originally, this was a story about a shooting, where one kid was bullying another. I've only added to the original story that in the south, a black kid is lost in the system.

To the authorities there, a black kid is part of those "OTHER" people, and dropped off in the abyss of nothingness.

Black or white, a bullied kid would still get my sympathy. It's just the plain truth...but a truth that we've grown scar tissue over to cover it up.

No. You mentioned colour.

Face it Quill.

by Maddog Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:51 am

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

What you have done is what you always do.

Bring race and location into a conversation that it shouldn't be.

You can't help yourself. I don't know what in the fuck is wrong with you,.but surely there are some good mental health professionals in San Francisco.

I don't understand. Every time blacks are mentioned, you guys go into 'fight' mode. If I were to mention chess or volleyball, or any other subject, it would just be business as usual. But blacks? You go bananas.

No, I don't approve of you bringing up race or location when it's irrelevant.

It ruins threads amd makes this place boring as fuck. You're a fucking cancer...

by Original Quill Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:34 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I don't understand. Every time blacks are mentioned, you guys go into 'fight' mode. If I were to mention chess or volleyball, or any other subject, it would just be business as usual. But blacks? You go bananas.

No, I don't approve of you bringing up race or location when it's irrelevant.

It ruins threads amd makes this place boring as fuck. You're a fucking cancer...

It's only irrelevant to the deniers. SLAVERY DID HAPPEN, in case you are still in doubt. And so too did peonage happen…and separate but equal…and segregation...and the Jim Crow laws to keep the racial prejudice going. I mean...it's a fact of life. This is Texas, fcs.

Where exactly do you think it stopped??? It's STILL happening, as evidenced by the 2021 Georgia, Alabama and Texas voting laws...that allow white officials to overturn the political choices of black voters, in black neighborhoods.

With such racist programs going on in the south - today! - do you doubt that a lone 18-year old high school kid will not be ground up in the system like Emmett Till was in 1955? What makes you believe that? What exactly has happened that makes you think that things have changed? Convince us!

Or, are you just playing another game of hide-the-pea?

by Maddog Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:07 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

No, I don't approve of you bringing up race or location when it's irrelevant.

It ruins threads amd makes this place boring as fuck. You're a fucking cancer...

It's only irrelevant to the deniers. SLAVERY DID HAPPEN, in case you are still in doubt. And so too did peonage happen…and separate but equal…and segregation...and the Jim Crow laws to keep the racial prejudice going. I mean...it's a fact of life. This is Texas, fcs.

Where exactly do you think it stopped??? It's STILL happening, as evidenced by the 2021 Georgia, Alabama and Texas voting laws...that allow white officials to overturn the political choices of black voters, in black neighborhoods.

With such racist programs going on in the south - today! - do you doubt that a lone 18-year old high school kid will not be ground up in the system like Emmett Till was in 1955? What makes you believe that? What exactly has happened that makes you think that things have changed? Convince us!

Or, are you just playing another game of hide-the-pea?

You're a cancer. Here, and no doubt in the your daily life assuming anyone still gives you the time of day.

by Original Quill Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:27 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

It's only irrelevant to the deniers. SLAVERY DID HAPPEN, in case you are still in doubt. And so too did peonage happen…and separate but equal…and segregation...and the Jim Crow laws to keep the racial prejudice going. I mean...it's a fact of life. This is Texas, fcs.

Where exactly do you think it stopped??? It's STILL happening, as evidenced by the 2021 Georgia, Alabama and Texas voting laws...that allow white officials to overturn the political choices of black voters, in black neighborhoods.

With such racist programs going on in the south - today! - do you doubt that a lone 18-year old high school kid will not be ground up in the system like Emmett Till was in 1955? What makes you believe that? What exactly has happened that makes you think that things have changed? Convince us!

Or, are you just playing another game of hide-the-pea?

You're a cancer. Here, and no doubt in the your daily life assuming anyone still gives you the time of day.

Haha...southerner on the attack. If your reasoning is any indication, you'll also need the gun. Wink

by Maddog Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:10 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

You're a cancer. Here, and no doubt in the your daily life assuming anyone still gives you the time of day.

Haha...southerner on the attack. If your reasoning is any indication, you'll also need the gun.

You're a cancer. You're prejudices, biases and lies are from a past generation. Move on old man.

by Original Quill Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:51 am

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Haha...southerner on the attack. If your reasoning is any indication, you'll also need the gun.

You're a cancer. You're prejudices, biases and lies are from a past generation. Move on old man.

Why aim all that toxin at me? This is a thread about a shooting at an Arlington High School...the perp's motives and defenses.

You are taking this far too personally. Relax, calm down, and address the topic. Wink

by Maddog Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:07 am

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

You're a cancer. You're prejudices, biases and lies are from a past generation. Move on old man.

Why aim all that toxin at me? This is a thread about a shooting at an Arlington High School...the perp's motives and defenses.

You are taking this far too personally. Relax, calm down, and address the topic.

It was about that, until you derailed it.

by Original Quill Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:16 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Why aim all that toxin at me? This is a thread about a shooting at an Arlington High School...the perp's motives and defenses.

You are taking this far too personally. Relax, calm down, and address the topic.

It was about that, until you derailed it.

Which is not really a "derailing", but a legitimate observation. In any other company, an 18-year old black being bullied in Texas would be appropriate for comment. Except, as a member of the targeted group, you don't like it. WELL, GET TEXAS TO STOP IT!

Southern racism still goes on. Sandra Bland? James Byrd Jr.? The Texas ‘Voter Exclusion Bill’ of 2021? Is it not legitimate to speak about such matters in the company of a southerner??? I don't do it to bait you, but to reveal to others (outside America) that it's a special circumstance. It’s remarkable to us, too! Racism is real...but it's not really what America is all about.

The "Ugly American" is not so much a typical American, but a typical southerner. And, it's not even all southerners. Ben has never felt it was about him. Nor does Lurker ever feel targeted. You get your hackles up quite voluntarily, because, incidentally, it's you and your ideology we're talking about. Cool

by Maddog Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:24 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

It was about that, until you derailed it.

Which is not really a "derailing", but a legitimate observation. In any other company, an 18-year old black being bullied in Texas would be appropriate for comment. Except, as a member of the targeted group, you don't like it. WELL, GET TEXAS TO STOP IT!

Southern racism still goes on. Sandra Bland? James Byrd Jr.? The Texas ‘Voter Exclusion Bill’ of 2021? Is it not legitimate to speak about such matters in the company of a southerner??? I don't do it to bait you, but to reveal to others (outside America) that it's a special circumstance. It’s remarkable to us, too! Racism is real...but it's not really what America is all about.

The "Ugly American" is not so much a typical American, but a typical southerner. And, it's not even all southerners. Ben has never felt it was about him. Nor does Lurker ever feel targeted. You get your hackles up quite voluntarily, because, incidentally, it's you and your ideology we're talking about.

You don't know if he was bullied. He did get in a fight with another black boy, 3 years his junior, and then he shot that boy.

That's really all we know, and that could happen amongst boys of any race, any where in this country

You derailed this thread, like many others, with your prejudices.

by Maddog Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:26 pm

And Ben has told you your obsession with the south and race is weird.

No doubt he should do it more.

by Original Quill Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:48 pm

Maddog wrote:And Ben has told you your obsession with the south and race is weird.

No doubt he should do it more.

No, he hasn't. You misunderstand. There's a difference between intellectual curiosity, and patent wrong-headedness. Ben has expressed intellectual curiosity.

I am one of those who blatantly says that southerners are simply “wrong”. Among the founding principles of America, is the concept of "all men are created equal". There are two reasons why I say southerners are wrong: because (1) the southerners’ roots are from formerly legalized slavery, and today they actually continue to defend inequality; and (2) their numbers (or lack thereof) perennially return to political office the evil-doers. The latter tends to ‘lock-in’ the perpetual inequality, and so southern states are permanently married to white-supremacy - as you see in the southern laws of voter exclusion of blacks.

Ben is the champion of the progressive, or leftist southerner. He has asked in good faith why the "good" southerner – the one who believes in equality, and abides progressivism - can’t be counted or included in my concept of ‘southernism’.

The answer is: because they keep opting out of good southern politics…they refuse to elect good people, and somehow return the white-supremacists to office. Hence, their good intentions are not strong enough, or somehow don’t matter. Southern politics is perennially discriminatory. This never changes. And now, in an age where minority populations are overtaking white populations, you see they are changing the goalposts via voter suppression, to make sure that they stay in office.

And I do believe in moral corrigibility, but you see how white-supremacy is now running a race with the very existence of democracy? Right now, southerners are intent on being incorrigible. Wrong direction! The bad guys might well win, unless we simply and lawfully exclude them by 'locking-in' democracy.

by Maddog Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:25 pm

Yes he has.

by Original Quill Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:46 pm

No, he hasn't...for the reasons I have stated. You have misunderstood the discussion.

"Weird" implies incomprehensible. There is nothing incomprehensible about opposing inequality.

by Maddog Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:48 pm

It implies an obsession. A disorder.

by Original Quill Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:23 am

Maddog wrote:It implies an obsession. A disorder.

What? Amexit? It is neither an obsession or a disorder. To the contrary...it's an awakening. Awakening to the fact that we face a real and palpable danger to our government and way of life.

But it certainly is a change; a necessary change. Like surgery - it is removal of a cancer that threatens the whole body if left unattended. Some people are afraid. Some are totally trusting in their surgeons. But few, if anyone, dare to say the surgery isn't necessary.

Yet, inaction is a decision...a decision not to go forward. If we take that course, we should do it consciously and knowingly - knowing that the cancer will go on.

by Maddog Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:11 am

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:It implies an obsession. A disorder.

What? Amexit? It is neither an obsession or a disorder. To the contrary...it's an awakening. Awakening to the fact that we face a real and palpable danger to our government and way of life.

But it certainly is a change; a necessary change. Like surgery - it is removal of a cancer that threatens the whole body if left unattended. Some people are afraid. Some are totally trusting in their surgeons. But few, if anyone, dare to say the surgery isn't necessary.

Yet, inaction is a decision...a decision not to go forward. If we take that course, we should do it consciously and knowingly - knowing that the cancer will go on.

Is there a cure for whatever in the fuck it is that you have?

by Original Quill Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:57 am

Maddog wrote:Is there a cure for whatever in the fuck it is that you have?

Are you suggesting that to be anti-racist needs a cure?

by Maddog Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:25 am

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:Is there a cure for whatever in the fuck it is that you have?

Are you suggesting that to be anti-racist needs a cure?

No, being an obsessive compulsive weirdo does.

You could find racism in a bucket of shit.

by Original Quill Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:47 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Are you suggesting that to be anti-racist needs a cure?

No, being an obsessive compulsive weirdo does.

You could find racism in a bucket of shit.

Sorry...I disagree that racism is that dismissive. There's never a wrong time to do the right thing, and it starts with where you find racism in abundance.

But, hey...all we're doing here is mentioning it - like it's adjectival. And you even take offense to that. It obviously bothers you to talk about it. Care to share?

by Ben Reilly Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:54 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Why aim all that toxin at me? This is a thread about a shooting at an Arlington High School...the perp's motives and defenses.

You are taking this far too personally. Relax, calm down, and address the topic.

It was about that, until you derailed it.

Which is not really a "derailing", but a legitimate observation. In any other company, an 18-year old black being bullied in Texas would be appropriate for comment. Except, as a member of the targeted group, you don't like it. WELL, GET TEXAS TO STOP IT!

Southern racism still goes on. Sandra Bland? James Byrd Jr.? The Texas ‘Voter Exclusion Bill’ of 2021? Is it not legitimate to speak about such matters in the company of a southerner??? I don't do it to bait you, but to reveal to others (outside America) that it's a special circumstance. It’s remarkable to us, too! Racism is real...but it's not really what America is all about.

The "Ugly American" is not so much a typical American, but a typical southerner. And, it's not even all southerners. Ben has never felt it was about him. Nor does Lurker ever feel targeted. You get your hackles up quite voluntarily, because, incidentally, it's you and your ideology we're talking about.

I don’t like distorting facts to fit a predetermined narrative, and you do that often. I reject the idea that stories are simple- it’s people who make stories simple by leaving out nuances.

Insisting that everything bad that happens to black people is because of racism is simplistic, and when you do that, you seem like you’re pushing an agenda.

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