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Post by eddie Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:19 am

“I didn’t start it!”
Translates into:
“I have been as bad, but the other guy started it first so it’s okay for me to act like him!”

We are never going to change anything with a tit for tat mentality. No matter how you dress it up.

Thoughts?

Shall we keep going with a tit for tat mentality or shall we rise above and say what we need to say, regardless?

To be honest, even my kids know the answer to this.
Fuck me.
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Post by eddie Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:29 am

I mean really?

“He started it!”

Does anyone else realise how stupid that sounds as an excuse to exchange childish insults?

How do we expect to change the world or the future of our children if we have grown men exchanging childish insults when trying to communicate?

Words fucking fail me.

For those of you that think it’s a winner, a game-changer, or a great way to communicate.
It is not.

I wouldn’t teach a dog to behave in the manner that some of you think is civilised.

Grow up. It’s not clever, or funny, and nor does it win you any points.

It’s just fucking boring.
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:31 am

So not singling me out you start a thread singling me out

got it

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Post by Maddog Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:53 am

To be fair, sometimes I start it.

Once I start losing respect for people, I become an asshole. But respect doesn't mean agreeing with me. I am surrounded by people who often don't agree with me, nor me with them. We have each other's back because there is more to life than agreeing on everything.

I know I'm a broken record on this but it's not about your political position. It's about you as a human. People on the receiving end of my vitriol have lost my respect. I dig in and sling shit.

Sorry, not sorry..

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Post by Syl Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:48 am

It is funny how some people can rub us up the wrong way and bring out the worst in us.
In real life they can often be avoided, if they cant, we can either refuse to let them bother us, or respond to every little irritation and make matters worse.

I do think on forums most of us retaliate sometimes...it's human nature.
It's best if we can keep personal stuff out of arguments though...no matter who started it.
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Post by Syl Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:49 am

Guest wrote:So not singling me out you start a thread singling me out

got it

Who are you?

edit...

Korben, I read another thread and see you have left.

That's a shame, I enjoyed posting with you. It didn't cross my mind that this thread was started with you in mind....More for Quill and Maddog. Razz

Forums are not for the faint hearted though, and if you choose to enter into arguments and get rough....it IS a two way street, you give it and you get it back.
If that makes you unhappy, why not stay and keep out of the insult throwing?
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Post by gelico Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:49 pm

eddie wrote:I mean really?

“He started it!”

Does anyone else realise how stupid that sounds as an excuse to exchange childish insults?  

How do we expect to change the world or the future of our children if we have grown men exchanging childish insults when trying to communicate?

Words fucking fail me.

For those of you that think it’s a winner, a game-changer, or a great way to communicate.  
It is not.

I wouldn’t teach a dog to behave in the manner that some of you think is civilised.

Grow up. It’s not clever, or funny, and nor does it win you any points.

It’s just fucking boring.


oh, i say   “I didn’t start it” 1f62f

what's got you so rattled then?

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Post by Fred Moletrousers Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:43 pm

Bloody ‘ell....what have I been missing?
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Post by Original Quill Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:50 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:Bloody ‘ell....what have I been missing?

Hahaha...donno, but eddie started it. “I didn’t start it” 3489511464

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Post by JulesV Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:32 pm

I did not know Korben very well but I liked that he was such a polite & gentle darling of a man.

Where did he go?? And why????? “I didn’t start it” 2190311264

Hopefully he will return here some day.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:55 pm

JulesV wrote:I did not know Korben very well but I liked that he was such a polite & gentle darling of a man.

Where did he go??  And why????? “I didn’t start it” 2190311264

Hopefully he will return here some day.

If Korben has vacated the site, that is a huge loss. If anyone has communication with him, please tell him of our concern and urge him to show up. Cool

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Post by Maddog Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:00 pm

Original Quill wrote:
JulesV wrote:I did not know Korben very well but I liked that he was such a polite & gentle darling of a man.

Where did he go??  And why????? “I didn’t start it” 2190311264

Hopefully he will return here some day.

If Korben has vacated the site, that is a huge loss.  If anyone has communication with him, please tell him of our concern and urge him to show up. Cool

If?

Why do you think it says "guest" next to all of his posts?
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Post by Original Quill Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:46 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

If Korben has vacated the site, that is a huge loss.  If anyone has communication with him, please tell him of our concern and urge him to show up. Cool

If?

Why do you think it says "guest" next to all of his posts?

"Guest" ordinarily means the member didn't sign in.

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Post by Syl Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:48 pm

I am still wondering how 'guests' can make posts here.
I thought you HAD to be signed in before you could post. scratch
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Post by Maddog Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:56 pm

Syl wrote:I am still wondering how 'guests' can make posts here.
I thought you HAD to be signed in before you could post. scratch

It means they deleted their account.

They weren't a guest when they made the post.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:03 pm

Syl wrote:I am still wondering how 'guests' can make posts here.
I thought you HAD to be signed in before you could post. scratch

I learned posting in this format on FF.  There is a page that appears to sign in.  If you do not sign in, and go directly to posting, your post will also appear as 'guest'.

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Post by Maddog Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:08 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:I am still wondering how 'guests' can make posts here.
I thought you HAD to be signed in before you could post. scratch

I learned posting in this format on FF.  There is a page that appears to sign in.  If you do not sign in, and go directly to posting, your post will also appear as 'guest'.

You didn't learn much.

Korben is gone. No user exists by that name.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:23 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I learned posting in this format on FF.  There is a page that appears to sign in.  If you do not sign in, and go directly to posting, your post will also appear as 'guest'.

You didn't learn much.

Korben is gone. No user exists by that name.  

That's a shame, if true. He was/is a valuable poster, with an instinct for interesting subjects and well-reasoned opinions. We seem to be chasing away people of that sort.

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Post by Andy Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:38 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

You didn't learn much.

Korben is gone. No user exists by that name.  

That's a shame, if true.  He was/is a valuable poster, with an instinct for interesting subjects and well-reasoned opinions.  We seem to be chasing away people of that sort.

Not everyone is doing the chasing away Quill. Just a few individuals.
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Post by Syl Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:38 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

You didn't learn much.

Korben is gone. No user exists by that name.  

That's a shame, if true.  He was/is a valuable poster, with an instinct for interesting subjects and well-reasoned opinions.  We seem to be chasing away people of that sort.

I think he got upset because Eddie seemed to have a go at him.
He was a good poster, as was the other one who left a while ago after Ben outed him as someone else previously (forgot his name)

We need more posters not less.
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Post by Maddog Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:49 pm

Andy wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

That's a shame, if true.  He was/is a valuable poster, with an instinct for interesting subjects and well-reasoned opinions.  We seem to be chasing away people of that sort.

Not everyone is doing the chasing away  Quill. Just a few individuals.

Reading you're whining shit has me me contemplate leaving. Cool
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Post by Maddog Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:52 pm

Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

That's a shame, if true.  He was/is a valuable poster, with an instinct for interesting subjects and well-reasoned opinions.  We seem to be chasing away people of that sort.

I think he got upset because Eddie seemed to have a go at him.
He was a good poster, as was the other one who left a while ago after Ben outed him as someone else previously (forgot his name)

We need more posters not less.

Eddie pointed out his hypocrisy while he was under the impression that he was being stunning and brave.

He got butthurt.
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Post by Syl Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:53 pm

Maddog wrote:
Andy wrote:

Not everyone is doing the chasing away  Quill. Just a few individuals.

Reading you're whining shit has me me contemplate leaving.  Cool

There does seem to be an element of whining going on lately, oddly from the posters who contribute least, Rolling Eyes
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Post by Syl Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:56 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

I think he got upset because Eddie seemed to have a go at him.
He was a good poster, as was the other one who left a while ago after Ben outed him as someone else previously (forgot his name)

We need more posters not less.

Eddie pointed out his hypocrisy while he was under the impression that he was being stunning and brave.  

He got butthurt.  

Yep, I didn't see it happen because it was late, but if you dish it out you have to expect to get it back.

I did like him though.
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Post by Andy Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:00 pm

Maddog wrote:
Andy wrote:

Not everyone is doing the chasing away  Quill. Just a few individuals.

Reading you're whining shit has me me contemplate leaving.  Cool

Is that a threat or a promise?
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Post by Andy Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:03 pm

I  have known KD for donkey's years, and still liaise from time to time privately. He helped set up my little forum.

http://openmike.freeforums.net/ plug, plug.

He is a busy guy, and has no time for fools.
More likely he got quickly bored.


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Post by Maddog Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:03 pm

Andy wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Reading you're whining shit has me me contemplate leaving.  Cool

Is that a threat or a promise?


Hur dur.
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Post by Maddog Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:04 pm

Andy wrote:I  have known KD for donkey's years, and still liaise from time to time privately. He helped set up my little forum. He is a busy guy, and has no time for fools.
More likely he got quickly bored.

Nah, he got butthurt by Eddie.
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Post by Maddog Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm

Andy wrote:I  have known KD for donkey's years, and still liaise from time to time privately. He helped set up my little forum.

http://openmike.freeforums.net/  plug, plug.

He is a busy guy, and has no time for fools.
More likely he got quickly bored.

You have your own forum?

Is Brutus a member? Do yall get along?
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Post by Andy Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:08 pm

Anyone else think that Eddie is trying to take over the mantle of NF enforcer since Vic sadly departed?.
It doesn't suit her.
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Post by Andy Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:11 pm

It's all a bit too technical for you, Maddog, you have to know which keys to press on your conputer, but also in the correct order.
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Post by Syl Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:12 pm

Andy wrote:Anyone else think that Eddie is trying to take over the mantle of NF enforcer since Vic sadly departed?.
It doesn't suit her.

I'm sure she will take your opinions on board and file them in the nearest suitable container. Wink
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Post by Maddog Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:19 pm

Andy wrote:Anyone else think that Eddie is trying to take over the mantle of NF enforcer since Vic sadly departed?.
It doesn't suit her.

No.

She is nothing like Vic either.

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Fucking
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Post by eddie Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:13 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:I am still wondering how 'guests' can make posts here.
I thought you HAD to be signed in before you could post. scratch

I learned posting in this format on FF.  There is a page that appears to sign in.  If you do not sign in, and go directly to posting, your post will also appear as 'guest'.

No. “Guest” is a post who’s account no longer exists - they deleted their account. Jeez Quill, how long have you been posting here?
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Post by eddie Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:15 pm

Maddog wrote:
Andy wrote:I  have known KD for donkey's years, and still liaise from time to time privately. He helped set up my little forum. He is a busy guy, and has no time for fools.
More likely he got quickly bored.

Nah, he got butthurt by Eddie.  

The thread wasn’t aimed at one single person, but at the childish tit-for-ta-spats between some people.
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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:19 pm

Eddie's in no way trying to become the forum enforcer; I don't see any evidence of that at all.

If something that's happened on here prompts a thought, what's wrong with starting a thread inspired by it? Has it gotten to the point where not only can we not single out members in a thread, we can't even start threads that might apply to some members?

Because this isn't the only time someone's gotten butthurt over a generic thread that they chose to take personally.

Fuck me ...
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Post by Original Quill Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:24 pm

eddie wrote:
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I learned posting in this format on FF.  There is a page that appears to sign in.  If you do not sign in, and go directly to posting, your post will also appear as 'guest'.

No. “Guest” is a post who’s account no longer exists - they deleted their account. Jeez Quill, how long have you been posting here?

It's not only here. Forumotion has lots of sites, many big one's--bigger than Newsfix--where 'Guest' is simply one who hasn't signed in.

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Post by eddie Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:52 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I learned posting in this format on FF.  There is a page that appears to sign in.  If you do not sign in, and go directly to posting, your post will also appear as 'guest'.

No. “Guest” is a post who’s account no longer exists - they deleted their account. Jeez Quill, how long have you been posting here?

It's not only here.  Forumotion has lots of sites, many big one's--bigger than Newsfix--where 'Guest' is simply one who hasn't signed in.

We don’t have that option here. You have to sign in to post
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Post by Maddog Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:05 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

It's not only here.  Forumotion has lots of sites, many big one's--bigger than Newsfix--where 'Guest' is simply one who hasn't signed in.

We don’t have that option here. You have to sign in to post

Quill knows how this forum works better than you. Cool
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Post by eddie Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:53 pm

Maddog wrote:
eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

It's not only here.  Forumotion has lots of sites, many big one's--bigger than Newsfix--where 'Guest' is simply one who hasn't signed in.

We don’t have that option here. You have to sign in to post

Quill knows how this forum works better than you.  Cool

I guess he does. scratch
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Post by Maddog Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:31 pm

eddie wrote:
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Quill knows how this forum works better than you.  Cool

I guess he does. scratch

The weird fucker would argue about haggis to a Scot.
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Post by Original Quill Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:55 pm

Maddog wrote:
eddie wrote:

We don’t have that option here. You have to sign in to post

Quill knows how this forum works better than you.  Cool

I know how Forumotion works. But, management doesn't share a look at the masterboard, so I don't know how any given site works. But you knew that, didn't you Red?

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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:13 am

Original Quill wrote:
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Quill knows how this forum works better than you.  Cool

I know how Forumotion works.  But, management doesn't share a look at the masterboard, so I don't know how any given site works.  But you knew that, didn't you Red?

I knew that when a poster shows up as "Guest" they deleted their account or were banned from this place.

I said it as soon as Korben checked out.

You can't post as guest here.



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Post by Andy Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:21 am

You can if the Admin uncheck the registration required box in the admin controls.
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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:09 pm

Andy wrote:You can if the Admin uncheck the registration required box in the admin controls.

Which hasn't been done, so if you see a guest post, it's because they were a FORMER member.
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Post by Syl Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:40 pm

Maddog wrote:
Andy wrote:You can if the Admin uncheck the registration required box in the admin controls.

Which hasn't been done, so if you see a guest post, it's because they were a FORMER  member.

I get it now...when they made the post they were a member, when they leave/are banned, the posts remain but instead of their user name 'guest' replaces it.

I didn't know Korben had left, so to see some posts credited to 'guest' confused me for a minute....it doesn't take much I know. Razz
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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:44 pm

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Which hasn't been done, so if you see a guest post, it's because they were a FORMER  member.

I get it now...when they made the post they were a member, when they leave/are banned, the posts remain but instead of their user name 'guest' replaces it.

I didn't know Korben had left, so to see some  posts credited to 'guest' confused me for a minute....it doesn't take much I know. Razz

That's what I said about a week ago when it happened. Cool
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Post by Syl Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:48 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

I get it now...when they made the post they were a member, when they leave/are banned, the posts remain but instead of their user name 'guest' replaces it.

I didn't know Korben had left, so to see some  posts credited to 'guest' confused me for a minute....it doesn't take much I know. Razz

That's what I said about a week ago when it happened. Cool

I know you did...I'm just belatedly agreeing with you. Laughing
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Post by gelico Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:49 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

I get it now...when they made the post they were a member, when they leave/are banned, the posts remain but instead of their user name 'guest' replaces it.

I didn't know Korben had left, so to see some  posts credited to 'guest' confused me for a minute....it doesn't take much I know. Razz

That's what I said about a week ago when it happened. Cool


i hope you're only referring syl's first sentence

lol!

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Post by Syl Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:54 pm

gelico wrote:
Maddog wrote:

That's what I said about a week ago when it happened. Cool


i hope you're only referring syl's first sentence

lol!

Oh yes...I didn't notice that. Wink
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