Celine Dion: anorexic or healthy?

Syl wrote:I have seen some pics of her....and of Angelina Jolie, where they both look incredibly thin.
Some of the pics could have been doctored, photoshopped, or whatever they do with them to make a story.

eddie wrote:





She looks almost skeletal. She says it’s due to her “newfound love of ballet and a new diet”

She looks close to starving, in my opinion. Is this a good look to promote to fans and susceptible young girls?

eddie wrote:

Syl wrote:I have seen some pics of her....and of Angelina Jolie, where they both look incredibly thin.
Some of the pics could have been doctored, photoshopped, or whatever they do with them to make a story.

Well, it’s been reported upon. So I’m guessing no photoshop?

Ben Reilly wrote:I think she looks terrible, way too thin. If she's not starving herself, she needs to see a doctor. Actually, she needs to see a doctor no matter what!

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:

Well, it’s been reported upon. So I’m guessing no photoshop?

Probably her tapeworm by Marc Jacobs...

eddie wrote:





She looks almost skeletal. She says it’s due to her “newfound love of ballet and a new diet”

She looks close to starving, in my opinion. Is this a good look to promote to fans and susceptible young girls?

Syl wrote:If she does have anorexia, it's an illness not an achievement.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:If she does have anorexia, it's an illness not an achievement.

But even an illness is perceived.  It is not unconscious.  You can’t intentionally vomit and not be existentially conscious of it...or at least have a memory of it.

Such behavior has a motive (attractor or detractor), in a self-aware human being.  What is the attraction or detraction that motivates this behavior?

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

But even an illness is perceived.  It is not unconscious.  You can’t intentionally vomit and not be existentially conscious of it...or at least have a memory of it.

Such behavior has a motive (attractor or detractor), in a self-aware human being.  What is the attraction or detraction that motivates this behavior?

I haven't studied psychiatry Quill, so I can't really say why some people have the need to starve themselves..
It could start off with a need to look good, control their lives, punish themselves, punish someone else....I don't suppose there is any one answer.

Syl wrote:I know a couple of women who have had eating disorders.

One suffered with bulimia for years, her parents ignored it. I know her father used to call her fat when she was young (she definitely wasn't) that could have had some effect on the way she saw herself when she became a teenager.

I think sometimes it can start off with simply wanting to lose weight, obviously it can become an addiction, maybe it depends on how happy someone is to start off with on how these things take control.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:If she does have anorexia, it's an illness not an achievement.

But even an illness is perceived.  It is not unconscious.  You can’t intentionally vomit and not be existentially conscious of it...or at least have a memory of it.

Such behavior has a motive (attractor or detractor), in a self-aware human being.  What is the attraction or detraction that motivates this behavior?

Syl wrote:If she does have anorexia, it's an illness not an achievement.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

But even an illness is perceived.  It is not unconscious.  You can’t intentionally vomit and not be existentially conscious of it...or at least have a memory of it.

Such behavior has a motive (attractor or detractor), in a self-aware human being.  What is the attraction or detraction that motivates this behavior?

Anorexics don't purge.  That's Bulimics.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Syl wrote:If she does have anorexia, it's an illness not an achievement.

She's claiming it's because she does ballet four times a week.  

Syl wrote:Without appearing callous, I really don't know how people can get that obese.
I am a chocoholic, have been all my life, but the most I ever gain is half a stone here or there, and come summer, when the weather is better and people can exercise more, it just drops off again.

If huge weight gain isn't caused by medication or illness, imo it often begins in childhood.
I see fat mothers with fat young children, and it's sad....those kids are possibly set up for a life of ill health, all because the parent cant feed the kid properly.