Meghan the bully.

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Though as these accusations came to light in 2018 I wonder why they are only being addressed (with lots of publicity) by the palace now....just days before the Oprah interview is aired both in the US and a day later in the UK?

Harry and Meghans antics are now being likened to Edward and Mrs Simpsons treachery.
A slight over exaggeration methinks.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:I haven’t had the time to read all the comments of my esteemed fellow Newsfix members on this subject, for which I apologise, but here are my views on the current controversy which, I understand,could make me very unpopular. At least here, unlike sewer media like Twitter, I am most unlikely to receive death threats!

Megan was, and is, a B-list celebrity who had aspirations to rise above the restrictions of her natural status and talents  and into the ranks of A-list celebrities. Marrying into the British Royal Family presented her with the perfect opportunity of doing so.

This damn woman is now as big a threat to the Royal family and its thousand years of history and tradition as was her fellow American Wallis Simpson who was the root cause of a constitutional crisis and the abdication of King Edward VIII.

Personally I am devastated about the impact and effect on Harry, for whom I hold the greatest of respect. Anyone, royal or commoner, who sits in the cockpit seat of an Apache combat helicopter as it flies into “hot” battle conditions possesses guts and bravery that are unimaginable to the rest of us.

My own view is that the marriage will not last. I give it two years ar the most.

Sadly, such events are hardly unknown in the royal family.

I think most of your views are shared by the majority here Fred.

I do disagree that Meghan is a huge threat to the royal family, she is certainly doing her best to embarrass them and make herself out to be the victim.

If it were Kate, married to the future king of England, who acted this way I do think it would be a disaster, but Harry is way down the royal pecking order, so it's not much of a threat imo, more a storm in a teacup.

Whether the marriage will last, who knows? IF it doesn't, I think Harry would be welcomed back. He was well liked and respected before, and when /if he gets out from under her clutches, he will be again.

As usual, you guys are all in a tizzy, while we Americans don't really care. B-list or A-list, Meghan's an American living in America...and her husband chooses to live here with her.

Time will tell whether they stay married, but my guess is that their odds are better over here...where there is not such a fuss over something that is none of our business.

If Harry ever comes back, I'm not sure it 'll be forgive and forget for the general public (those that care about or are interested in the royals), by allowing what's been said or actively agreeing to say those things he is as guilty in many peoples minds. He keeps saying he will support his grandmother and never say or do anything to embarrass her or his family - I'm wondering which family and grandmother is he talking about because he's doing a pretty good job of the exact opposite for his paternal grandmother, queen and family.

Vintage wrote:If Harry ever comes back, I'm not sure it 'll be forgive and forget for the general public (those that care about or are interested in the royals), by allowing what's been said or actively agreeing to say those things he is as guilty in many peoples minds. He keeps saying he will support his grandmother and never say or do anything to embarrass her or his family - I'm wondering which family and grandmother is he talking about because he's doing a pretty good job of the exact opposite for his paternal grandmother, queen and family.

"Those that care about or are interested in the royals" are the ones who have been obsessed about Harry's bastardy.  For decades they passed along whispered slurs, in dark corners, about Diana's transgressions, and thus Harry's sinful legacy.  It's all been to just to flatter the Queen and the "real" royals, Charles and Camilla.

Why would Harry ever want to come back?  Not to say he won't, but no reasonable person would want anything to do with it.  Even if he and Meghan don't make it, my bet he'll stay where he is wanted.

I don't hear anyone talking about it other than you! You keep banging on like a true obsessive, just because you keep saying it won't make it true, so its no excuse.

Vintage wrote:I don't hear anyone talking about it other than you! You keep banging on like a true obsessive, just because you keep saying it won't make it true, so its no excuse.

Well, it's not for me to be obsessive about this. But also, I can be insistent when it comes to the obvious truth. I think the whole stink about Charles and Camilla, and Diana's flings, underlies this whole thing.

Harry is but an innocent victim to his parent's indiscretions. And that is what Meghan is trying to put a-right. It's obvious...else why are they Royal outliers and living on another continent?

Original Quill wrote:As usual, you guys are all in a tizzy, while we Americans don't really care.  B-list or A-list, Meghan's an American living in America...and her husband chooses to live here with her.

Time will tell whether they stay married, but my guess is that their odds are better over here...where there is not such a fuss over something that is none of our business.

The royal family is our business though Quill. Maybe you dont understand because the US has never had one.
Meghan has deliberately and  continuously thrust herself into the headlines by the way she is acting.

If she and Harry had simply moved to the US, carved out their lives there, and stopped trying to use the royal family to boost their own profiles, I doubt the majority of Brits would give a toss.

Original Quill wrote:

Vintage wrote:I don't hear anyone talking about it other than you! You keep banging on like a true obsessive, just because you keep saying it won't make it true, so its no excuse.

Well, it's not for me to be obsessive about this.  But also, I can be insistent when it comes to the obvious truth.  I think the whole stink about Charles and Camilla, and Diana's flings, underlies this whole thing.

Harry is but an innocent victim to his parent's indiscretions.  And that is what Meghan is trying to put a-right.  It's obvious...else why are they Royal outliers and living on another continent?

There isn't any truth in the rumours that why, its only people like yourself that keeps banging on about it, just like the ones who reckon Charles is illegitimate and Andrew is Lord Porchester's son among so many others going back, there is even supposed to be an illegitimate son of Princess Margaret and a daughter born to Charles and Camilla. Have any of those cut and run?

I like her. I like Harry. I admire him for protecting his wife.
I’m watching it.
I’m glad she and Harry can live their lives on their own terms.

Y’all are acting like she has killed someone. You try living her life and see how quickly it would crush you. It’s the British press doing what they’re most famous for. Putting people up on pedestals and then
tearing them down, all in the name of profit, and acting scandalized when they show they are human and not robots.

How quickly people forget how other royals in the past have acted. They just didn’t live in the age of the internet 24/7 where every single thing they did or said or wore or looked is over-analyzed to the point where it fits in with someone’s agenda.

They have all done or said questionable or regrettable things, the Queen included. Meghan and Harry just happen to be this year’s targets.

If Harry and Meghan had worked something out with the Queen etc and gone  off and become producers or whatever and done their own thing separately - hardly anyone would have been offended but they wanted it all - royalty when it suited them and celebs when that was more convenient but with the added cash in on their royal connections.
If they had gone off and made their own way I reckon most people would have applauded them, taking pot shots and back talking Harry's family, queen and country, who would tolerate that, would you do so from your son to his grandparents, brothers and family, although your problem would be dealt with privately.
Its a shame because I think they could have had it all and done great things for worthy causes from the platform of being royal, others do, without shouting your mouth off and would have continued to be popular, you can support various causes you just don't obviously take sides but you can do a lot. Its a job where you, like most jobs play to the rules even if you don't particularly like all of them - for instance privately you can wear various colour nail varnish or clothes that you like - at work you wear the uniform and obey the rules.
Harry should have taken some time out and gone to Africa and worked with Sentabale for a while if he didn't want to do the work of supporting his grandmother, father and brother.

Cass wrote:I like her. I like Harry. I admire him for protecting his wife.
I’m watching it.
I’m glad she and Harry can live their lives on their own terms.

Y’all are acting like she has killed someone. You try living her life and see how quickly it would crush you. It’s the British press doing what they’re most famous for. Putting people up on pedestals and then
tearing them down, all in the name of profit, and acting scandalized when they show they are human and not robots.

How quickly people forget how other royals in the past have acted. They just didn’t live in the age of the internet 24/7 where every single thing they did or said or wore or looked is over-analyzed to the point where it fits in with someone’s agenda.

They have all done or said questionable or regrettable things, the Queen included. Meghan and Harry just happen to be this year’s targets.

From what I'm seeing on twitter, the monarchy is about to see its popularity take a beating it hasn't since Diana.

If asking about the colour or Archie's skin while Meghan was pregnant, and Charles ignoring Harry's calls, is true, then they really are utterly appalling and haven't improved nearly enough.

Eilzel wrote:

Cass wrote:I like her. I like Harry. I admire him for protecting his wife.
I’m watching it.
I’m glad she and Harry can live their lives on their own terms.

Y’all are acting like she has killed someone. You try living her life and see how quickly it would crush you. It’s the British press doing what they’re most famous for. Putting people up on pedestals and then
tearing them down, all in the name of profit, and acting scandalized when they show they are human and not robots.

How quickly people forget how other royals in the past have acted. They just didn’t live in the age of the internet 24/7 where every single thing they did or said or wore or looked is over-analyzed to the point where it fits in with someone’s agenda.

They have all done or said questionable or regrettable things, the Queen included. Meghan and Harry just happen to be this year’s targets.

From what I'm seeing on twitter, the monarchy is about to see its popularity take a beating it hasn't since Diana.

If asking about the colour or Archie's skin while Meghan was pregnant, and Charles ignoring Harry's calls, is true, then they really are utterly appalling and haven't improved nearly enough.

From what it seems so far, the palace apparatus hasn’t learned a damn thing. Those things are absolutely appalling.

She has been respectful of all the family so far, especially of the Queen.

Cass wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

Cass wrote:I like her. I like Harry. I admire him for protecting his wife.
I’m watching it.
I’m glad she and Harry can live their lives on their own terms.

Y’all are acting like she has killed someone. You try living her life and see how quickly it would crush you. It’s the British press doing what they’re most famous for. Putting people up on pedestals and then
tearing them down, all in the name of profit, and acting scandalized when they show they are human and not robots.

How quickly people forget how other royals in the past have acted. They just didn’t live in the age of the internet 24/7 where every single thing they did or said or wore or looked is over-analyzed to the point where it fits in with someone’s agenda.

They have all done or said questionable or regrettable things, the Queen included. Meghan and Harry just happen to be this year’s targets.

From what I'm seeing on twitter, the monarchy is about to see its popularity take a beating it hasn't since Diana.

If asking about the colour or Archie's skin while Meghan was pregnant, and Charles ignoring Harry's calls, is true, then they really are utterly appalling and haven't improved nearly enough.

From what it seems so far, the palace apparatus hasn’t learned a damn thing. Those things are absolutely appalling.

She has been respectful of all the family so far, especially of the Queen.

I need to find a way to watch it later, the twitter feeds are killing me with their commentary

Wonder if ITV will air it in the end

Vintage wrote:If Harry and Meghan had worked something out with the Queen etc and gone  off and become producers or whatever and done their own thing separately - hardly anyone would have been offended but they wanted it all - royalty when it suited them and celebs when that was more convenient but with the added cash in on their royal connections.
If they had gone off and made their own way I reckon most people would have applauded them, taking pot shots and back talking Harry's family, queen and country, who would tolerate that, would you do so from your son to his grandparents, brothers and family, although your problem would be dealt with privately.
Its a shame because I think they could have had it all and done great things for worthy causes from the platform of being royal, others do, without shouting your mouth off and would have continued to be popular, you can support various causes you just don't obviously take sides but you can do a lot. Its a job where you, like most jobs play to the rules even if you don't particularly like all of them - for instance privately you can wear various colour nail varnish or clothes that you like - at work you wear the uniform and obey the rules.
Harry should have taken some time out and gone to Africa and worked with Sentabale for a while if he didn't want to do the work of supporting his grandmother, father and brother.

There is certainly a clash of cultures here, one that I have gone through myself although not in the public eye being torn to shreds.

Another is a a modern vs outdated approach to life.

Some of the things she is saying about conversations within the family are appalling.

Are they blameless in all of this fiasco? No, but I certainly believe they were pushed to their limits, and after Harry saw what happened to his mother, I don’t blame him for reaching a breaking point when nothing was getting better.

Did this mysterious “member of the royal family” really “express concern” about the possible skin colour of baby Archie during Megan’s pregnancy...an unanswered allegation that was obviously the subject of heated discussion on BBC news this morning?

Or did members of the family express concern about the sheer volume and likely impact of the pretty vile and patently racist comment and trolling that was going on in the social media?

As an old hack I found it strange that Winfrey did not pursue this possibility, instead preferring to give an Oscar deserving performance of breathtakingly shocked and stunned reaction at Megan’s “revelation” leaving it virtually unchallenged.

Any journalist’s principle role, unless employed as a columnist paid specifically to express personal and usually controversial views, is to seek the truth from both sides. Without seeing the full programme I don’t know whether Winfrey made any attempt to do so.

Discuss.

We will probably never learn or know what actually happended or was said behind the closed doors of Buck Palace. He said, she said.
The truth is probably a bit of what both sides offer.
She is not blameless, neither are the royal family.
She HAS been demonized by a vitriolic and vile assault by sections of the media and (mainly) RW press, led by hacker Piers Morgan, a shameless self publicist,who courts controvery to increase ratings.

I will try to watch tonights interview with an open mind.

The questioning of the babies colour is abhorrent, and if that was said by a high ranking royal it's unforgivable. But could it have been said by a member of the royal houshold, the hundreds of people who run 'The Firm'...from the butler to the people who run the publicity machine... or the 'dark forces' as Burrell once insisted the queen had said??
A really serious accusation seems to have been made that places the Queen and all the family under suspicion...will the actual suspect be named and shamed in a follow up interview...or a money making book?

The cynic in me is also wondering whether, when Meghan talks of thinking of ending it all, she is channelling the well publicised attempts at suicide Diana suffered. If anything is going to arouse fear in Harry that history is repeating itself....there is no better path to go down.

Andy wrote:We will probably never learn or know what actually happended or was said behind the closed doors of Buck Palace. He said, she said.
The truth is probably a bit of what both sides offer.
She is not blameless, neither are the royal family.
She HAS been demonized by a vitriolic and vile assault by sections of the media and (mainly) RW press, led by hacker Piers Morgan, a shameless self publicist,who courts controvery to increase ratings.

I agree 100%. Some of the vile things that were said about her in some sections of social media were disgusting.
But....she seems to be putting the blame on the royal family, Harry's family, when in fact it was the media who were the culprits.

No doubt the royals are aloof when someone comes into their family, Diana was incredibly vocal about that, and it seems they haven't changed much.
For that, who could blame the couple for wanting to break free (though they insist that isn't what they wanted) and build a happy life elsewhere...where they can earn their own money and live their own lives.

So really, doing interviews and causing incredible upset for Harry's family, especially at this time in their lives when his grandfather is seriously ill and his 94 year old grandmother is still dutifully holding it all together, is not moving forwards, it's exactly the opposite.

If I were Harry, I would carry a sidearm when out in public with Meghan.
Diana's death was terribly convenient for the Royal family. They wanted to silence her. She was dating a Muslim, and a man of colour. she may well have been pregnant, which would have been outrageous, for a future King to have a coloured Muslim brother or sister.
She was alive and conscious when she was loaded into the ambulance.
She was taken by ambulance to a hospital 20 mins away, a journey that took 80 minutes, and died somewhere on that journey..
She was embalmed before an autopsy could be carried out (to dispose of the unborn baby?).
Weird things happened to witnesses.
Consipracy theory? Bloody well right, there is strong suspicion her death was planned by dark forces within the firm.

Meghan has put both herself and Harry in a very vulnerable place, even more so by being in America, where casual killings appear more commonplace.
Nothing would be easier and more convenient for The Firm for there to be another terrible accident involving them both, to finally shut them up.
At least there would be plenty of witnesses. It is thought that the daily Mail has around 15 papparazzi, cameramen and reporters camped outside their mansion 24/7, and following their every move.

Eilzel wrote:

Cass wrote:

From what it seems so far, the palace apparatus hasn’t learned a damn thing. Those things are absolutely appalling.

She has been respectful of all the family so far, especially of the Queen.

I need to find a way to watch it later, the twitter feeds are killing me with their commentary

Wonder if ITV will air it in the end

In the UK it's on ITV tonight, 9 till 11.

And I bet 99% of people who say they are not interested will still be glued to it.

I must be part of the 1% who is not at all interested and won't be watching any of it...

Syl wrote:I will try to watch tonights interview with an open mind.

The questioning of the babies colour is abhorrent, and if that was said by a high ranking royal it's unforgivable. But could it have been said by a member of the royal houshold, the hundreds of people who run 'The Firm'...from the butler to the people who run the publicity machine... or the 'dark forces' as Burrell once insisted the queen had said??
A really serious accusation seems to have been made that places the Queen and all the family under suspicion...will the actual suspect be named and shamed in a follow up interview...or a money making book?

The cynic in me is also wondering whether, when Meghan talks of thinking of ending it all, she is channelling the well publicised attempts at suicide Diana suffered. If anything is going to arouse fear in Harry that history is repeating itself....there is no better path to go down.

Yes, my thoughts too...a “source”, “palace insider” or “pal of...”whoever? Every royal commentator or paparazzo has at least one name and phone number of a mole in Buck House in their contacts book...and royal gossip is a valuable and saleable commodity.

A couple of interesting theories about the mystery that I heard this morning: The Grand old Duke of Edinburgh who is, at almost 100, entitled be a bit  forgetful and confused on occasions and sometimes to make one of his blunt off-the- cuff remarks that were perfectly commonplace and regarded as acceptable in his era but which could be deeply offensive now - or a disgraced Andrew who knows that he is deeply in the shit and is probably desperate for savage media opprobrium to be directed at someone else for a change.

I wouldn’t know, or even wish to speculate...but what I do know is that it’s getting dirty and unlike to end any time soon.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:Did this mysterious “member of the royal family” really “express concern” about the possible skin colour of baby Archie during Megan’s pregnancy...an unanswered allegation that was obviously the subject of heated discussion on BBC news this morning?

Or did members of the family express concern about the sheer volume and likely impact of the pretty vile and patently racist comment and trolling that was going on in the social media?

As an old hack I found it strange that Winfrey did not pursue this possibility, instead preferring to give an Oscar deserving performance of breathtakingly shocked and stunned reaction at Megan’s “revelation” leaving it virtually unchallenged.

Any journalist’s principle role, unless employed as a columnist paid specifically to express personal and usually controversial views, is to seek the truth from both sides. Without seeing the full programme I don’t know whether Winfrey made any attempt to do so.

Discuss.

Yes she did. She pressed Harry on a lot of points and he said he wasn’t going to reveal who said what, a few times in response to her questions. They said at the beginning that they didn’t know any of Oprah’s questions ahead of time and you could see that quite a few of them put them in a difficult place. They also and I cannot stress this enough, did not get paid for this.

My final thoughts on this:

It seems as if the palace hasn’t learned a damn thing going all the way back to Princess Margaret and GC Townsend. I think they were both very respectful and loving to the Queen. The relationship with Charles and William seems very broken. Which is sad, but it happens in families.

Some of the things she said were incredibly shocking and appalling. Suicidal, color of the children’s skin, no help.

Are they partially at fault? Yes. Miscommunications on both sides and also cultural and modern expectations and experiences again in both sides. But the British Press, as does the Palace machinery, has a huge part to play in all of this by perpetuating lies, rumors and innuendos and allowing the level of racism that right now is being spewed in social media pages. Also they pointed out that the negotiations started way before it was released. Charles even asked for it all in writing, including the date which they planned to make the announcement which they did. Charles then stopped taking Harry’s calls. So. I, they didn’t blindside the Queen. In fact he mentioned that he has talked more to HM more this year than practically in his whole life which I think is very telling.

It’s sad. But they seem at peace and happy and are having a girl which is wonderful. And I wish them nothing but a long happy and loving family life for them and may they continue to do good.

How do you know any of that, or anything she says, is true?

At best there are a lot of half truths in the parts I've seen reported, things said but not explained, things that people who don't understand how the monarchy works would take the wrong way..
As for Archie not having a title - he does he is traditionally able to use his father subsidiary title Earl of Dumbarton, just like Edward's son James is Viscount Severn. Once Charles is King he'll be entitled to Prince. Harry and Meghan said they didn't want a title for him so he can live a normal life.
Security - they had security while in the UK and while they were in Canada. If they aren't working royals they get to pay for their own security, just like the non working royals if they feel they need it.
They wanted to be financially independent so the family money flow stopped, Harry complains because of this they had to turn to deals with whomever - does he really expect the tax paying public to keep him (and it is all public money at the root of it).
As for the what Archie would be like, I hope it isn't what it sounds like but is speculation on who he would follow, maybe clumsy? Don't we all speculate on what a child will look like, who it will follow?
As for racism apparently there was in some papers I don't read the rag press and I don't know anyone who does the last time I did pick one up in the dentist I think its was so full of rubbish headlines its not worth cutting into squares and putting in the outside privy. The majority of people - who were interested - are not racist and welcomed Harry's girlfriend very enthusiastically and they are the people that count not the rag mags.

Fred M. wrote:I found it strange that Winfrey did not pursue this possibility, instead preferring to give an Oscar deserving performance of breathtakingly shocked and stunned reaction at Megan’s “revelation” leaving it virtually unchallenged.

I understand perfectly Oprah's incredulity in response to that answer.  Oprah has been raised in the US, which is British in origin.  Worrying over what color the babe's skin would be a very German, and decidedly non-British, thing to do.  Germans are, after all, the origin of ideas of the superiority of the Aryan race…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany  Perhaps nowhere would the gap between British and German cultures be greater.

I find it pointless to side-track the issue onto social media.  Tories and Republicans need to learn that social media, like the general media, is just the mind of the people and the thoughts that pass through it.

The fact is, the British monarchy since the Hanover’s, has been German, and German culture is different.  The Queen Mum was the first British cultural influence to penetrate the monarchy since George Louis I (Mary of Teck, wife of George V, was born in Britain, but of German stock…she was princess of the Kingdom of Württemberg).  And then Elizabeth II, snaps right back and marries a Dane.  Hey Brits…these people are not you.

Now Mum has company in Diana, and lo, the dam begins to show cracks.  Religious differences aside, y’all would have done much better sticking with the Stuarts.

Cass wrote:It’s sad. But they seem at peace and happy and are having a girl which is wonderful. And I wish them nothing but a long happy and loving family life for them and may they continue to do good.

Agreed, absolutely. They have chosen an alternative, which—were the Royals (Charles) not so stubborn—would be perfectly acceptable to both sides.

How is Charles stubborn?

There is nothing than Piers Morgan  would enjoy more than to be a mourner at Meghan's  funeral.

Cass wrote:My final thoughts on this:

It seems as if the palace hasn’t learned a damn thing going all the way back to Princess Margaret and GC Townsend. I think they were both very respectful and loving to the Queen. The relationship with Charles and William seems very broken. Which is sad, but it happens in families.

Some of the things she said were incredibly shocking and appalling. Suicidal, color of the children’s skin, no help.

Are they partially at fault? Yes. Miscommunications on both sides and also cultural and modern expectations and experiences again in both sides. But the British Press, as does the Palace machinery, has a huge part to play in all of this by perpetuating lies, rumors and innuendos and allowing the level of racism that right now is being spewed in social media pages. Also they pointed out that the negotiations started way before it was released. Charles even asked for it all in writing, including the date which they planned to make the announcement which they did. Charles then stopped taking Harry’s calls. So. I, they didn’t blindside the Queen. In fact he mentioned that he has talked more to HM more this year than practically in his whole life which I think is very telling.

It’s sad. But they seem at peace and happy and are having a girl which is wonderful. And I wish them nothing but a long happy and loving family life for them and may they continue to do good.

So do I, and I suspect the vast majority of Brits, who remember that little boy walking so stoically behind his mums coffin, wish them a happy life ahead too.
Everyone I know was  happy when he fell in love and married, I believed the majority of Brits loved her manner and her style, and most of all her ability to make a man who has obviously struggled emotionally, happy.
How times have changed.

The couple  chose to leave, and that was their choice to make, but  how much better would it have been for them and also for for the royal family, if they had not gone public numerous times with their complaints.
The queen  nor any other  senior royal will be interviewed on TV to put forward their side of the story, so when Oprah rightly pointed out to Meggan that it was "Her truth"....that's just one side of a very complicated drama.....which shouldn't really have been played out like a soap opera for all to gawp at.

Andy wrote:There is nothing than Piers Morgan  would enjoy more han to be a mourner at Meghan's  funeral.

Oh for Gods sake, what a stupid remark to make.

Why?
He loathes her
Truly detests her.
Is stalking her.
Has made 65+ anti Meghan Twitter posts today alone.
Why?
Because she spurned his advances.
And her death would give him.ever more prominence and publicity.
That is ALL he cares about .

Andy wrote:Why?
He loathes her
Truly detests her.
Is stalking her.
Has made 65+ anti Meghan Twitter  posts today alone.
Why?
Because she spurned his advances.
And her death would give him.ever more prominence and publicity.
That is ALL he cares about .

I don't watch him, but I suspect if he  talks about her a lot it's to get reactions....and it obviously works.

edit...

OK, I just randomly found this interview he did with an Aussie news channel in January, before all the furore about the Oprah interview.
Even then is only saying what many others are saying.


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=pearce+morgan+talks+about+meghan&docid=608027882191193855&mid=DD4595E08AF85D15FB2ADD4595E08AF85D15FB2A&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

No, he doesn't just talk about her.
He is totally obsessed with her. Spends 2 hours each day on tv lambasting her, and writes columns in the Mail, and has friendly correspondents in both the Sun and Express, who give him the publicity he craves.

Syl wrote:

Andy wrote:There is nothing than Piers Morgan  would enjoy more han to be a mourner at Meghan's  funeral.

Oh for Gods sake, what a stupid remark to make.

Well, consider the source.

Always two sides to a story

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/08/royals-case-defence-against-harry-meghans-claims/

How we come to know the full truth is more difficult and hence I remain neutral until more is known

Well it was certainly interesting viewing, I suspect not so easy to watch for the royal family.

I was interested in what he had to say, but he didn't get the chance to say much.
What he did say was quite telling.

I feel really sorry for Harry, he has given up everything, Meghan on the other hand has gained an enormous amount.

Syl wrote:I was interested in what he had to say, but he didn't get the chance to say much.
What he did say was quite telling.

I feel really sorry for Harry, he has given up everything, Meghan on the other hand has gained an enormous amount.

Basically she told her husband that we're going on global TV and I'm trashing your family.

She was also wrong to presume Archie was denied the title of prince because he is mixed race.

Harrys children would never automatically inherit the title prince or princess.
Only the eldest son of the prince of Wales has that privilege....which is why Williams children have the titles.

I will just say this.  After watching the programme tonight, in parts she repeated almost word for word what Diana said on camera 25 years ago.

Whether this was by design, or whether it's because the palace has learned nothing since then, who can say for sure.

I will shurrup about her now.

Andy wrote:No, he doesn't just talk about her.
He is totally obsessed with her. Spends 2 hours each day on tv lambasting her, and writes  columns in the Mail, and has friendly correspondents in both the Sun and Express, who give him the publicity he craves.

You will like what happened this morning  then

Morgan is a bully. Bullys cannot stand being challenged, as is shown, rather hilariously, here. Beresford was calm, precise and direct in what he said, and was neither nasty or offensive.
Apparently ITV bosses have called Morgan into their offices to talk about his vitriol and repeated attackes on Markle.
It would not surprise me if he was either fired, or jumped ship to Andrew Neil's news broadcasting news service.

They are both multi millionaires, given a £30 million wedding and given a lovely house to live in which had £2 million spent on doing it up... They had staff doing everything for them and they could do pretty much whatever they wanted, and all they had to do was turn up to a few all expenses paid events and smile and wave a bit...


But that was too much of a hard life for them?


And they were "trapped"...?


Bollocks to the pair of them, the ungrateful twats!

Tommy Monk wrote:Bollocks to the pair of them, the ungrateful twats!

They also have a patriarch that hates the mother of his sons, detests the child of another man's sperm in his wife's womb, who, because he is German, is concerned about the race of his daughter-in-law, and what color skin his grand-child(ren) might exhibit. And this patriarch will someday be king of the nation in which they will be locked, if they stay.

I can see Harry & Meghan putting distance between themselves and such a situation. All those baubles you mention, tommy, don't take the place of a little peace at home...with ones who truly do want you.

Money may be everything for Tories, but not the rest of us.

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Bollocks to the pair of them, the ungrateful twats!

They also have a patriarch that hates the mother of his sons, detests the child of another man's sperm in his wife's womb, who, because he is German, is concerned about the race of his daughter-in-law, and what color skin his grand-child(ren) might exhibit.  And this patriarch will someday be king of the nation in which they will be locked, if they stay.

I can see Harry & Meghan putting distance between themselves and such a situation.  All those baubles you mention, tommy, don't take the place of a little peace at home...with ones who truly do want you.

Money may be everything for Tories, but not the rest of us.

Do you have any proof about Harry not being Charles' kid?