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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:26 pm

Glaciers are flowing more quickly into the ocean in West Antarctica due to climate change, contributing to rising sea levels, a study has found.

The most detailed study to date of ice loss in the Getz region, which is so remote that humans are thought to have never set foot in most of it, reveals 14 glaciers are thinning and the speed at which they are moving towards the sea has increased by an average of 23.8 per cent in the past 25 years.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sea-rise-accelerating-as-climate-changes-causes-collapse-of-glaciers-jqs7tjnqc
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:53 am

Climate change: Sir David Attenborough's appeal to world leaders


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Post by Guest Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:57 am

And just a year later
https://news.sky.com/video/climate-change-david-attenboroughs-appeal-to-world-leaders-12226772

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:21 am

I often think the one "commodity" we have in this world that we never seem to have a shortage of is stupid people and armchair experts who think Global warming is a hoax, who's "i'm all right jack" attitude is all that matters to them until it happens to them,then they complain and whine how unfair it all is Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by Vintage Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:12 pm

Those people won't have to deal with the consequences so what do they care.
There are far too many people on the planet for the good of the the planet itself, for other species and even for the human population. Obviously we can't have a cull of humans, although we seem to try hard to do that with wars etc. we really ought to be making sure the people already here have financial and health stability so that they either only have one or two children or none at all, bringing the population down to the numbers that can live comfortably without encroaching on habitat for other species and leaving aquifers alone. Let the planet heal and we'll all benefit, well not this or the next generation or two of course.

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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:15 am




Well... We all heard very loudly about the "death of the glacier" in Iceland, and how it was proof of global warming/climate change...


But what they didn't loudly shout about was the fact that this glacier was only 700 years old... And it's 'birth' and 'death' coincide with our start and end of the 700 year long cold period known as the 'little ice age'.


Yes, the climate is always changing... Most of the last 5000 and 10000 years has been warmer or as warm as today... And there has also been cool periods... The data from the ice core studies in Greenland (GISP2) and the Antarctic (Vostok) prove this... In fact the Vostok data goes back 100s of thousands of years, and shows regular periodic dips into "ice ages", something that this data shows we may well be due for the start of another one...


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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:08 pm





Good video Maddog!


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Post by Didgee Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:09 pm

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Well... We all heard very loudly about the "death of the glacier" in Iceland, and how it was proof of global warming/climate change...


But what they didn't loudly shout about was the fact that this glacier was only 700 years old... And it's 'birth' and 'death' coincide with our start and end of the 700 year long cold period known as the 'little ice age'.


Yes, the climate is always changing... Most of the last 5000 and 10000 years has been warmer or as warm as today... And there has also been cool periods... The data from the ice core studies in Greenland (GISP2) and the Antarctic (Vostok) prove this... In fact the Vostok data goes back 100s of thousands of years, and shows regular periodic dips into "ice ages", something that this data shows we may well be due for the start of another one...



Strawman again

What does any of the above have to do with the known fact that the ocean currents are slowing?


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Post by Didgee Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:12 pm

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Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:13 pm

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Strawman again

What does any of the above have to do with the known fact that the ocean currents are slowing?

Indeed Recent research has shown that the circulation has slowed down by at least 15% since 1950. Scientists in the new study say the weakening of the current is "unprecedented in the past millennium."

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Post by Maddog Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:15 pm

No one watched that video that fast. Cool
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Post by Didgee Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:15 pm

Korben wrote:
Didgee wrote:



Strawman again

What does any of the above have to do with the known fact that the ocean currents are slowing?

Indeed Recent research has shown that the circulation has slowed down by at least 15% since 1950. Scientists in the new study say the weakening of the current is "unprecedented in the past millennium."


Indeed mate, but some here do not want to actually look at the data sadly

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Post by Didgee Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:16 pm

Maddog wrote:No one watched that video that fast.  Cool


It was only 5 minutes mate

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Post by Maddog Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:19 pm

Didgee wrote:
Maddog wrote:No one watched that video that fast.  Cool


It was only 5 minutes mate

OK, now you had time.

In any event, you can find experts to tell you to be afraid, or not to worry too much. Thats on you. But remember that politicians will use that fear to their advantage.

Does anyone really think we only have "12 more years"?
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:21 pm

Korben wrote:
Didgee wrote:



Strawman again

What does any of the above have to do with the known fact that the ocean currents are slowing?

Indeed Recent research has shown that the circulation has slowed down by at least 15% since 1950. Scientists in the new study say the weakening of the current is "unprecedented in the past millennium."



Bullshit!!!


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Post by Didgee Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:24 pm

Maddog wrote:
Didgee wrote:


It was only 5 minutes mate

OK, now you had time.

In any event, you can find experts to tell you to be afraid, or not to worry too much.  Thats on you.  But remember that politicians will use that fear to their advantage.  

Does anyone really think we only have "12 more years"?


Sorry mate, the guy is a journalist, not a scientist in your video. Why not research the date on this?

We have more than 10 years but its future generations that do matter. We should not be selfish in thinking we are okay

I am not listening to the politicians, but the scientists

Catch you later

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Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:27 pm

Didgee wrote:
Korben wrote:
Indeed Recent research has shown that the circulation has slowed down by at least 15% since 1950. Scientists in the new study say the weakening of the current is "unprecedented in the past millennium."


Indeed mate, but some here do not want to actually look at the data sadly
Look at data Tommy.....data ? yea ....no thats why i have him on ignore and am just not interested in what he repeatedly says because all he spouts is the same old little ice age crap (possible cause on another thread) and the greenland ice core data and graph from 1997 now dismissed because its more to do with local weather (not global climate) and contains errors and omissions As i have pointed out before


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Post by Maddog Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:28 pm

Didgee wrote:
Maddog wrote:

OK, now you had time.

In any event, you can find experts to tell you to be afraid, or not to worry too much.  Thats on you.  But remember that politicians will use that fear to their advantage.  

Does anyone really think we only have "12 more years"?


Sorry mate, the guy is a journalist, not a scientist in your video. Why not research the date on this?

We have more than 10 years but its future generations that do matter. We should not be selfish in thinking we are okay

I am not listening to the politicians, but the scientists

Catch you later

The journalist had scientists on his show. He's asking them questions. Some actually show up and answer.
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Post by HoratioTarr Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:04 pm

Korben wrote:Climate change: Sir David Attenborough's appeal to world leaders


The Russians and Chinese don't give a flying fuck.
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Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:24 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Korben wrote:Climate change: Sir David Attenborough's appeal to world leaders


The Russians and Chinese don't give a flying fuck.
So because the  Russians and Chinese "allegedly" don't give a flying fuck the rest of the world shouldn't is that your point ?

https://www.sustaineurope.com/climate-russia-opening-the-doors-to-green-business-in-russia.html

There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody’s job. Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn’t do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have.

no one took responsibility so nothing got accomplished.

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Post by Didgee Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:36 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Korben wrote:Climate change: Sir David Attenborough's appeal to world leaders


The Russians and Chinese don't give a flying fuck.


Lets use your methodology Horatio?

The Nazi's do not give a flying fuck?

The communists do not give a flying fuck?

Do we take Russia and china to task on climate change

Or hold your view of defeatism?

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Post by Maddog Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:05 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Korben wrote:Climate change: Sir David Attenborough's appeal to world leaders


The Russians and Chinese don't give a flying fuck.

Nor India.
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Post by Maddog Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:08 pm

Didgee wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

The Russians and Chinese don't give a flying fuck.


Lets use your methodology Horatio?

The Nazi's do not give a flying fuck?

The communists do not give a flying fuck?

Do we take Russia and china to task on climate change

Or hold your view of defeatism?

How do you take them to task? Especially China?

What we do, is calm down and keep working on renewables and nuclear energy, which will be the cheapest and cleanest, and therefore embraced by everyone.

Making these countries sign pieces of paper that they ignore in favor of growth is a waste of time, unless you're a politician wanting to give the impression you are "helping".

Or Sir David Busybody.
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:34 pm

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Didgee wrote:


Indeed mate, but some here do not want to actually look at the data sadly
Look at data Tommy.....data ? yea ....no thats why i have him on ignore and am just not interested in what he repeatedly says because all he spouts is the same old little ice age crap (possible cause on another thread) and the greenland ice core data and graph from 1997 now dismissed because its more to do with local weather (not global climate) and contains errors and omissions As i have pointed out before



Oh do fuck off with your idiotic "local not global" bullshit!


The changes in temperatures are also corroborated by the ice core study at Vostok near the south pole!!!


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Post by Original Quill Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:56 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Korben wrote:
Look at data Tommy.....data ? yea ....no thats why i have him on ignore and am just not interested in what he repeatedly says because all he spouts is the same old little ice age crap (possible cause on another thread) and the greenland ice core data and graph from 1997 now dismissed because its more to do with local weather (not global climate) and contains errors and omissions As i have pointed out before

Oh do fuck off with your idiotic "local not global" bullshit!

The changes in temperatures are also corroborated by the ice core study at Vostok near the south pole!!!

That was intelligent (that's sarcasm, tom).

I believe  Korben is ignoring you.  He is not interested in debating with somebody who spouts the same old crap ad infinitum, who doesn't read the links or information he has, and others have supplied.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:07 am




I am just repeating the facts that the idiots keep refusing to acknowledge!


They, however, will just continue repeating 'the lie'...



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