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Post by inmyopinion on Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:05 am

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is Biden done for??

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Post by Maddog on Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:49 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
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Sometimes a lack of order is a lack of justice.  

They counted long enough and every count came out than same.  

5 weeks to call an election is long enough.  


All according to... you. How authoritarian of you.

Not really me.

Legally, the electoral college has to meet on a certain date. The Florida electors needed to cast their votes and the results were needed.

The Supreme Court ruled a few days before the EC met, that the weeks of counting and recounting were over because we have a legal timeline to follow. Florida had weeks to get it right and they got it as right as they ever would have.

Bush won every official count.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:18 pm

His team also made sure that every official count was a product of corruption.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:27 pm

Maddog wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

All according to... you. How authoritarian of you.

Not really me.

Legally, the electoral college has to meet on a certain date.  The Florida electors needed to cast their votes and the results were needed.

The Supreme Court ruled a few days before the EC met, that the weeks of counting and recounting were over because we have a legal timeline to follow. Florida had weeks to get it right and they got it as right as they ever would have.

Bush won every official count.  

Who engineered the delay?  One candidate's brother was the governor of Florida.  He and his cronies (Kathrine Harris) were in charge of the very department that didn't make the deadline.  Follow the bouncing ball.

It was all a charade, and then the conservative Supreme Court swooped in and declared the (wrong) guy the winner.  That "legal timeline" that you talk about, was effectively manipulated.  All you are saying is that the causal chain was more complex, not that it wasn't rigged.

Republicans effectively hid the theft of the votes (of the third largest state) under a morass of Rube Goldberg contraptions (hanging chads, and third-party counts, vote stealing, etc.), hoping the public wouldn't follow the bouncing ball.
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/666812854/the-florida-recount-of-2000-a-nightmare-that-goes-on-haunting

Actually, complicit were Al Gore himself, and the Democrats in the Senate, who gave up without a fight.  They were the snowflakes.


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Post by Maddog on Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:29 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:His team also made sure that every official count was a product of corruption.

Then one more count wouldn't have mattered I guess.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:32 pm

Maddog wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:His team also made sure that every official count was a product of corruption.

Then one more count wouldn't have mattered I guess.  

No, but a recrafted, enlarged Supreme Court is in order.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:35 pm

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Then one more count wouldn't have mattered I guess.  

No, but a recrafted, enlarged Supreme Court is in order.

Yeah, they should have done that the second week of December, 2000. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:56 pm

Maddog wrote:
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No, but a recrafted, enlarged Supreme Court is in order.

Yeah, they should have done that the second week of December, 2000. Rolling Eyes

Right. They were fighting a good fight, until it reached the Supreme Court. On December 12, 2000 the decision on Bush v. Gore was handed down. Then they lay down and died.

That decision was the signal that the Supreme Court had gone political. It was no longer the aloof, hallowed body that people thought. On January 21, 2009, the Obama administration, with a House and Senate in their party's hands, should have expanded the Supreme Court with Obama picks upon Obama picks.

Democrats were stupid to think that the Court had returned to normal.

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Post by Maddog on Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:56 pm

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Yeah, they should have done that the second week of December, 2000. Rolling Eyes

Right.  They were fighting a good fight, until it reached the Supreme Court.  On December 12, 2000 the decision on Bush v. Gore was handed down.  Then they lay down and died.

That decision was the signal that the Supreme Court had gone political.  It was no longer the aloof, hallowed body that people thought.  On January 21, 2009, the Obama administration, with a House and Senate in their party's hands, should have expanded the Supreme Court with Obama picks upon Obama picks.

Democrats were stupid to think that the Court had returned to normal.

Yeah, the Dems should have tried to enlarge the SC on Dec 11, 2000.

What were they thinking? Rolling Eyes

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:33 am

Maddog wrote:
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Right.  They were fighting a good fight, until it reached the Supreme Court.  On December 12, 2000 the decision on Bush v. Gore was handed down.  Then they lay down and died.

That decision was the signal that the Supreme Court had gone political.  It was no longer the aloof, hallowed body that people thought.  On January 21, 2009, the Obama administration, with a House and Senate in their party's hands, should have expanded the Supreme Court with Obama picks upon Obama picks.

Democrats were stupid to think that the Court had returned to normal.

Yeah, the Dems should have tried to enlarge the SC on Dec 11, 2000.

What were they thinking? Rolling Eyes  

No, you dumb-fook, the Dems didn't have the House and Senate on Dec. 11, 2000. (I guess you skipped your American civics class in Jr. College.) But they had the whole legislature on January 21st of 2009. As soon as they had complete control, they should have enlarged the Court and appointed liberal judges.

I admit that Democrats are weak on tactics. After all, they are called snowflakes. They should also have also prosecuted Dick Cheney, and put him in prison. I think it's because they are busy problem-solving that they don't go for the jugular.

If they don't go for the slaughter this time, I'm going over to the Progressive Party.

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Post by Maddog on Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:53 am

Original Quill wrote:
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Yeah, the Dems should have tried to enlarge the SC on Dec 11, 2000.

What were they thinking? Rolling Eyes  

No, you dumb-fook, the Dems didn't have the House and Senate on Dec. 11, 2000.  (I guess you skipped your American civics class in Jr. College.)    But they had the whole legislature on January 21st of 2009.  As soon as they had complete control, they should have enlarged the Court and appointed liberal judges.

I admit that Democrats are weak on tactics.  After all, they are called snowflakes.  They should also have also prosecuted Dick Cheney, and put him in prison.  I think it's because they are busy problem-solving that they don't go for the jugular.

If they don't go for the slaughter this time, I'm going over to the Progressive Party.

No doubt you will be missed.

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