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Post by Guest Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:58 am

Seems he might.
Yet another own goal, as it is mainly moronic Republican Trump supporters who want to end the lockdown, and commit suicide.
Every vote counts, so the more redneck Republican idiots that succumb, the more likely Biden is to get elected.
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Post by Lurker Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:01 pm

The Trump administration will do anything to win the election for Trump. They are an organized crime family so morals and legalities don't exist in their world.
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Post by Maddog Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:57 pm

Brutus wrote:Seems he might.
Yet another own goal, as it is mainly moronic Republican Trump supporters who want to end the lockdown, and commit suicide.
Every vote counts, so the more redneck Republican idiots that succumb, the more likely Biden is to get elected.
Could Trump delay the 2020 US election due to coronavirus? – video explainer

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No.

Can you vote in our elections?
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Post by Original Quill Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:43 pm

Brutus wrote:Seems he might.
Yet another own goal, as it is mainly moronic Republican Trump supporters who want to end the lockdown, and commit suicide.
Every vote counts, so the more redneck Republican idiots that succumb, the more likely Biden is to get elected.
Could Trump delay the 2020 US election due to coronavirus? – video explainer

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No.  Elections are provided for in the US Constitution.  It is left to the states to hold elections, and if for some reason they cannot, it goes to the Supreme Court,

Any president might conceivably try to delay elections, but then his own status as president runs out on January 20, the next year.  Delaying the election says nothing about who will run the country in the next term.  When the 2016-2020 term runs out, without elections there will simply be no president to instate.

Nor, without an election, can Trump assume to continue indefinitely.  There is no constitutional machinery for extending a term.  A president is elected for an express term, and it has a termination point as well as a date of commencement.  If someone isn't elected by January 20, 2021, the presidency is by definition a vacant seat.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:15 pm

That only applies when your leader considers himself as a President.
I get the impression Trump regards himself more like an Emporer or a King.

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Post by Cass Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:48 am

I think he will attempt it.
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Post by Maddog Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:44 pm

Cass wrote:I think he will attempt it.

No he won't. You're smarter than that.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:16 pm

It IS amusing how so many people who were jostling for a position up Trump's  arse have now turned against him.
Case in point, his favourite bum chum Piers Morgan has now declared Trump 'batshit crazy'.

https://mol.im/a/8253467

Even Maddog seems to be wavering.

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Post by Maddog Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:26 pm

Brutus wrote:It IS amusing how so many people who were jostling for a position up Trump's  arse have now turned against him.
Case in point, his favourite bum chum Piers Morgan has now declared Trump 'batshit crazy'.

https://mol.im/a/8253467

Even Maddog seems to be wavering.

I didn't vote for him. Never been a fan. You're confused or not bright enough to understand my political positions. Or maybe both.

Do you have questions about my ideology you would like answered?
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Post by Original Quill Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:50 pm

Cass wrote:I think he will attempt it.

Well...it happened in Rome. Twisted Evil

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Post by Original Quill Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:01 pm

This is the day of the anti-normal.  Whenever you find yourself relying on the it couldn't happen/that doesn't happen here, logic, question yourself.

We have a president urging the injection of Lysol or bleach into your veins, to clean your inner body.  Next, he might appoint a pet dog as Secretary of Commerce.

He might well try to appoint himself god, or at least president for life.  Then it will be up to the military chiefs as to which way to go.

It does strike me that it would be an excellent opportunity for the Pacific States of America...which have already started forming coalitions of sorts around the CoVid-19 lockdown.  They might find that they have a much more workable nation state if they go their own way.

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Post by Original Quill Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:20 pm

Maddog wrote:
Brutus wrote:It IS amusing how so many people who were jostling for a position up Trump's  arse have now turned against him.
Case in point, his favourite bum chum Piers Morgan has now declared Trump 'batshit crazy'.

https://mol.im/a/8253467

Even Maddog seems to be wavering.

I didn't vote for him. Never been a fan. You're confused or not bright enough to understand my political positions. Or maybe both.

Do you have questions about my ideology you would like answered?

But you are a Republican.  And Republicans allowed this to happen.  The flaw that opened this gate, somehow, is in the genetic code of Republican/conservative ideology.

American politics needs to be taken into the laboratory and dissected, to determine what went wrong.  Then constitutional measures to fix it must be instated.

That is, if America is going to survive.  Trump has laid down a million wrongful, illegal, and unconstitutional precedents...and nowhere has America said NO!, this is wrong.  Ergo: it is right, and that's the logic that any child learns when NO is not conveyed.

Someone down the line is going to pick up this precedent or that, and run with it.


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Post by Guest Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:27 pm

Maddog wrote:
Brutus wrote:It IS amusing how so many people who were jostling for a position up Trump's  arse have now turned against him.
Case in point, his favourite bum chum Piers Morgan has now declared Trump 'batshit crazy'.

https://mol.im/a/8253467

Even Maddog seems to be wavering.

I didn't vote for him. Never been a fan. You're confused or not bright enough to understand my political positions. Or maybe both.

Do you have questions about my ideology you would like answered?

Your ideological position is sufficiently  clear when you neither criticise nor condemn Trump for his words, actions and deed.

US politics are far more binary than British, where you have red and blue.
We have red, blue and every rainbow colour in between.

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Post by Cass Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:57 pm

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Cass wrote:I think he will attempt it.

No he won't.  You're smarter than that.  

You don’t know that either which is why I said I THINK he will. Every day something new happens with his administration so at this point it’s a wait and see.

You do know that if he doesn’t win, he and his cult members will spend the rest of their days saying it was rigged against him. Just like the Bernie Bros who can’t let go of him. Whoever wins, we get screwed.

Nobody seems to understand that the 2016 election of this narcissist has much more reach and effect. I knew it back then.
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Post by Original Quill Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:17 pm

Cass wrote:Nobody seems to understand that the 2016 election of this narcissist has much more reach and effect. I knew it back then.

I agree that the inane part began with Trump.

But the Republicans went bad with GWB, and lying to start wars, legitimizing torture, kidnapping, rape and murder. And what is Guantanamo but a Nazi concentration camp? There were seeds of bigotry and tortious dishonesty that were planted then.

As far as the duplicity that now legitimizes a Trump, it began with the Republicans post-Clinton.

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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:53 am

Cass wrote:
Maddog wrote:

No he won't.  You're smarter than that.  

You don’t know that either which is why I said I THINK he will. Every day something new happens with his administration so at this point it’s a wait and see.

You do know that if he doesn’t win, he and his cult members will spend the rest of their days saying it was rigged against him. Just like the Bernie Bros who can’t let go of him. Whoever wins, we get screwed.

Nobody seems to understand that the 2016 election of this narcissist has much more reach and effect. I knew it back then.

If the Dems had nominated someone who knee what day it was, I guess I could see Trump being dumb enough to try.

At this point he's got the opponent he wanted. He wants to get on with it.
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Post by Cass Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:44 am

Maddog wrote:
Cass wrote:

You don’t know that either which is why I said I THINK he will. Every day something new happens with his administration so at this point it’s a wait and see.

You do know that if he doesn’t win, he and his cult members will spend the rest of their days saying it was rigged against him. Just like the Bernie Bros who can’t let go of him. Whoever wins, we get screwed.

Nobody seems to understand that the 2016 election of this narcissist has much more reach and effect. I knew it back then.

If the Dems had nominated someone who knee what day it was, I guess I could see Trump being dumb enough to try.  

At this point he's got the opponent he wanted. He wants to get on with it.  

We shall see.
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Post by Original Quill Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:33 am

I don't think anyone will vote for Trump this time. But there will be plenty who rebuff Biden. The one saving grace, given his age, is who Biden picks as his VP.

He has already said he will run as a one-term president, so who he picks will be of paramount importance. I genuinely like Cuomo.

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Post by Cass Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:41 am

Original Quill wrote:I don't think anyone will vote for Trump this time.  But there will be plenty who rebuff Biden.  The one saving grace, given his age, is who Biden picks as his VP.

He has already said he will run as a one-term president, so who he picks will be of paramount importance.  I genuinely like Cuomo.

He’s already committed to selecting a woman.
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Post by Original Quill Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:52 am

Cass wrote:
Original Quill wrote:I don't think anyone will vote for Trump this time.  But there will be plenty who rebuff Biden.  The one saving grace, given his age, is who Biden picks as his VP.

He has already said he will run as a one-term president, so who he picks will be of paramount importance.  I genuinely like Cuomo.

He’s already committed to selecting a woman.

I know. That could be a problem. If he took the die in office option, I would lov it if he chose Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris. But they have medics who look after a president. He might make it for 4-years, in which case we would have a woman running for president.

America does not elect a woman for their chief executive, any more than they would cast a woman in the role of Rhett Butler. Wrong typecasting. I would vote for either of those women in a heartbeat, and I did vote for Hilary. But middle-America doesn't like a female in the top spot, and Hilary proved it.

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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:55 am

Cass wrote:
Original Quill wrote:I don't think anyone will vote for Trump this time.  But there will be plenty who rebuff Biden.  The one saving grace, given his age, is who Biden picks as his VP.

He has already said he will run as a one-term president, so who he picks will be of paramount importance.  I genuinely like Cuomo.

He’s already committed to selecting a woman.

Surgery is always an option.
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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:49 pm

Andrea Cuomo. 😉
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Post by Lurker Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:59 pm

Trump is an organized crime boss. He thinks he's invincible and the world owes him and believes that crime pays him in his pockets.
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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:13 pm

Lurker wrote:Trump is an organized crime boss. He thinks he's invincible and the world owes him and believes that crime pays him in his pockets.

What does that have to do with the topic?
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Post by Lurker Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:41 pm

Trump thinks he is above the law and can do anything including delaying the election and rigging it for his own benefit or a dozen more possibilities. This is Trump we are talking about. The man is a criminal and a lunatic.
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Post by Cass Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:52 pm

Lurker wrote:Trump thinks he is above the law and can do anything including delaying the election and rigging it for his own benefit or a dozen more possibilities. This is Trump we are talking about. The man is a criminal and a lunatic.

Pretty much says it all.
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:35 pm

Maddog wrote:
Lurker wrote:Trump is an organized crime boss. He thinks he's invincible and the world owes him and believes that crime pays him in his pockets.

What does that have to do with the topic?

Despite all the bull, bluster and denial, Maddog still cannot condemn Trump.

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Post by Original Quill Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:24 pm

Cass wrote:
Lurker wrote:Trump thinks he is above the law and can do anything including delaying the election and rigging it for his own benefit or a dozen more possibilities. This is Trump we are talking about. The man is a criminal and a lunatic.

Pretty much says it all.

I agree. One has only to look at his dynamics with people around him: he doesn't ask, he tells...or perhaps, orders. He is not familiar with discussion, contemplation or taking advice. He went from the 'spoiled crib', to autocracy, which makes for an interesting hypothesis for political theorist out there.

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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:52 pm

is it purely urban myth, or is it true if you dont manage to elect a govt over there you by default fall back to the status of "colony" ...of the UK

if so get ready to pay $6 per gallon on petrol,
$10 per pack of 20 smokes
$3-$6 per pint of beer
20% sales tax

Not to mention imposition of human rights ....

etc etc etc

OH and Queenie will be in charge......
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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:23 pm

Brutus wrote:
Maddog wrote:

What does that have to do with the topic?

Despite all the bull, bluster and denial, Maddog still cannot condemn Trump.

What do I have to do with the topic?
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Post by Maddog Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:25 pm

Victorismyhero wrote:is it purely urban myth, or is it true if you dont manage to elect a govt over there you by default fall back to the status of "colony" ...of the UK

if so get ready to pay $6 per gallon on petrol,
$10 per pack of 20 smokes
$3-$6 per pint of beer
20% sales tax

Not to mention imposition of human rights ....

etc etc etc

OH and Queenie will be in charge......

We revert back Native American control.

Can't wait to go buffalo hunting.
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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:27 pm

Victorismyhero wrote:is it purely urban myth, or is it true if you dont manage to elect a govt over there you by default fall back to the status of "colony" ...of the UK

if so get ready to pay $6 per gallon on petrol,
$10 per pack of 20 smokes
$3-$6 per pint of beer
20% sales tax

Not to mention imposition of human rights ....

etc etc etc

OH and Queenie will be in charge......

I've never heard that before and I really doubt it's true. The U.S. declared itself sovereign and then won a war to drive the point home, and there's nothing in the U.S. constitution that says anything about returning to colonial status.

It's not possible for the U.S. to fail to elect a government, under our system of voting. Might be the one thing our system has going for it.

Going back to a colony would have a certain appeal, though, particularly if the Parliament would graciously give us the right to vote. Doing that would effectively mean American control of the UK, though -- I would think.

But we'd have free movement between the U.S. and the UK, which I would certainly be in favor of, plus the NHS would come to America.

But y'all would probably try to make us go back to spelling it as "favour," though ...
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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:39 pm

Yeah your spelling would be improved no end... Laughing
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Post by Victorismyhero Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:40 pm

and at least you would get PROPER beer
and real sausages
and jelly babies
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Post by Original Quill Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:54 pm

Victorismyhero wrote:is it purely urban myth, or is it true if you dont manage to elect a govt over there you by default fall back to the status of "colony" ...of the UK

if so get ready to pay $6 per gallon on petrol,
$10 per pack of 20 smokes
$3-$6 per pint of beer
20% sales tax

Not to mention imposition of human rights ....

etc etc etc

OH and Queenie will be in charge......

Haha...fascinating question.  More likely states rights would prevail, and the US would revert to the Articles of Confederation.

The states rights issue has gone from a conservative doctrine, to a more-or-less liberal one, under Trump.  I see an opportunity in that for the Pacific States of America. Those three western states support all the rest of the states (save for New York, Massachusetts and Illinois), and Trump keeps taking from them to give to his cronies.

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:02 pm

Victorismyhero wrote:and at least you would get PROPER beer
and real sausages
and jelly babies

Hey now, we do get proper beer and real sausages -- it's just that the companies that make them in the U.S. aren't big enough to flood the Tesco's aisles with them.

But yeah. Still pissed off about the Jelly Babies.
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