Boris admitted to hospital

Shouldn't have listened to Cummings herd theory. Should have locked down 2 weeks earlier and people should have been TOLD, not asked to stay indoors and isolate.
BBC News - Coronavirus: PM admitted to hospital over virus symptoms
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52177125

I guess now that he is no longer plugged into the Governments internet, Raab will take over as acting PM. God help us.

hind sight is a wonderful thing....

A lot of medical experts were telling him this weeks ago. He preferred to listen to his bet mate Dom.
Herd immunity is a ludicrous concept in the face of a global pandemic.
Invite EVERYONE to catch it, the weak die, the strong live and have subsequent immunity.
Until the virus modifies and that immunity is worthless.

Brutus wrote:A lot of medical experts were telling him this weeks ago. He preferred to listen to his bet mate Dom.
Herd immunity is a ludicrous concept in the face of a global pandemic.
Invite EVERYONE to catch it, the weak die, the strong live and have subsequent immunity.
Until the virus modifies and that immunity is worthless.

that applies to anyone...even if vaccinated

and your buddy Starmer is is beginning to show that nothing has changed

"5 minutes in the top job, and he is already criticising the government for how they are doing things and asking for the impossible, like a nationwide vaccination program, before there is even a vaccine??"

NOT that I agreed with the concept of "herd immunity, as it would have to apply in this case.... due to the sheer number of cases and deaths that would occur in a very short time frame.

the theory is sound, but of course has to be provided by vaccination, not exposure. Of course if it proves that no vaccine can be made, then thats how it will have to go.....no other course is possible, else we will be in permanent lock down/release/lock down cycles.....

The leader of the opposition's  job is to.point out mistakes made by the government.
He has said when things are done right, the govt. will have his full support.
If he didn't point out the errors he would be failing in his duty.
No doubt some would attack him if he kept silent over Boris's  errors.
I think the expression 'damned if he does, damned if he doesn't ' applies in this case as far as you are concerned.
It's probably more a case that you dislike anything and anyone connected with Labour.. Unlike you, I can see effective politicians whichever party they represent.
Rishi Sunak is doing a superb job, for example.

pointing out mistakes is only useful if you have a better and helpful and practical suggestion....

everyone was caught flat footed in a way, no govt anywhere in the world appreciated the speed and ferocity of this, and whilst you can argue till the cows come home that they SHOULD have....they didnt.....

I wonder how much this is going to change the world.....hopefully it will kill off globalisation and internationalism (though i hope NOT international cooperation on many things.....) but we dont need to be tied in a lovers embrace with every nation

Moreover i wonder how its going to change US......i mean, I'm an antisocial old grump anyway, so isolation per se aint a problem to me....but I'd like to be able to travel to my wood again.. (which i can do in one trip without a break and without interacting with anybody, and when there I AM isolated...thoroughly ).

but how many will take a liking to working from home etc....how many parents may well get to like the idea of actually spending time with their kids etc etc.......

Actually, herd immunity is the only way this thing ends. Either through everyone catching it, or some sort of vaccination. Isolation is just to slow down the pace that everyone gets it so that the medical community can stay caught up.

There seems to be this misconception that if everyone stays home for a few weeks it will disappear.

If only that were the case.

Victorismyhero wrote:hind sight is a wonderful thing....

It is, but he had knowledge of how serious this was before. He should have known better. This is a prime example of how too many laughed this off or didn’t think it would happen to them.
That said, I hope he is ok. Must be very scary for his family.

Maddog wrote:Actually, herd immunity is the only way this thing ends. Either through everyone catching it, or some sort of vaccination. Isolation is just to slow down the pace that everyone gets it so that the medical community can stay caught up.

There seems to be this misconception that if everyone stays home for a few weeks it will disappear.

If only that were the case.

Yes... This isn't going away any time soon...

Boris in ICU
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My thoughts are with him him, Carrie and his unborn babe for a speedy and full recovery hopefully.
It's not a great place to be, but he is in the best hands, as I was.
Just don't believe Tommy's mortality rates.

That’s awful news!

Rushed him in at about 6 pm today. He was having respiratory issues.

Fighting for your next Breath is no joke, get well soon Boris !

Boris seems to be on the mend, thank god.

nicko wrote:Fighting for your next Breath is no joke, get well soon Boris !

Yeah, no matter our individual political leanings, it’s not nice to see someone suffer.

I would never wish to see someone suffer, unless they had committed a truly horrendous crime. BoJo is far from that, of course. I think right now, the country really needs him.

Ben Reilly wrote:I would never wish to see someone suffer, unless they had committed a truly horrendous crime. BoJo is far from that, of course. I think right now, the country really needs him.

He has a good team helping him while he is recovering.

Some of the comments on social media by none Tories have been disgusting.
People who put their politics before human empathy and kindness are lacking something somewhere imo.

Syl wrote:Some of the comments on social media by none Tories have been disgusting.
People who put their politics before human empathy and kindness are lacking something somewhere imo.

I agree. Playing the political game when it’s life or death is just egotistical bullshit.

Syl wrote:Some of the comments on social media by none Tories have been disgusting.
People who put their politics before human empathy and kindness are lacking something somewhere imo.

I hope you stick around here and keep posting! That would be some good news around these here parts

A Labour coucellor has rightly been expelled for her comments.

"Sheila Oakes, who represents Heanor East on Amber Valley Borough Council in Derbyshire and is also the town's mayor, wrote a damning Facebook message last night after it emerged Boris Johnson's condition had deteriorated. The Prime Minister was admitted to the intensive care unit at St Thomas' Hospital in London on Monday night, but is said to be in a stable condition. However, instead of wishing Mr Johnson a speedy recovery, Ms Oakes said the Prime Minister "completely deserves" to have coronavirus.
Replying to a message calling for people to say a prayer for the Prime Minister, Councillor Oakes wrote: "Sorry, he completely deserves this and he is one of the worst PMs we’ve ever had."


https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1266342/Labour-Party-news-Boris-Johnson-health-coronavirus-latest-Labour-councillor

Ben Reilly wrote:

Syl wrote:Some of the comments on social media by none Tories have been disgusting.
People who put their politics before human empathy and kindness are lacking something somewhere imo.

I hope you stick around here and keep posting! That would be some good news around these here parts

That's very kind of you to say....I will post more, one good thing this self isolating lark gives is lots of free time to please oneself.

Syl wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Syl wrote:Some of the comments on social media by none Tories have been disgusting.
People who put their politics before human empathy and kindness are lacking something somewhere imo.

I hope you stick around here and keep posting! That would be some good news around these here parts

That's very kind of you to say....I will post more, one good thing this self isolating lark gives is lots of free time to please oneself.

Yes. I can concur.

Syl wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Syl wrote:Some of the comments on social media by none Tories have been disgusting.
People who put their politics before human empathy and kindness are lacking something somewhere imo.

I hope you stick around here and keep posting! That would be some good news around these here parts

That's very kind of you to say....I will post more, one good thing this self isolating lark gives is lots of free time to please oneself.

It's really weird that you would say that. I have a song running through my head that says much the same thing.

BoJo still in hospital but out of ICU. Good news!

Syl wrote:A Labour coucellor has rightly been expelled for her comments.

"Sheila Oakes, who represents Heanor East on Amber Valley Borough Council in Derbyshire and is also the town's mayor, wrote a damning Facebook message last night after it emerged Boris Johnson's condition had deteriorated. The Prime Minister was admitted to the intensive care unit at St Thomas' Hospital in London on Monday night, but is said to be in a stable condition. However, instead of wishing Mr Johnson a speedy recovery, Ms Oakes said the Prime Minister "completely deserves" to have coronavirus.
Replying to a message calling for people to say a prayer for the Prime Minister, Councillor Oakes wrote: "Sorry, he completely deserves this and he is one of the worst PMs we’ve ever had."


https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1266342/Labour-Party-news-Boris-Johnson-health-coronavirus-latest-Labour-councillor

.Under Starmer, she was hurled out the party within hours.
Under Corbyn, there would have been a committee set up to investigate whether there needed to be an inquiry into her behaviour.
And Momentum would have objected to the make up of the committee.

It's a pity stammer didn't act against Pakistani Muslim child abuser gangs while he was DPP...