Phillip Schofield

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Came out as gay live on tv.
Bigger stars than him are openly gay, not sure why it's an issue, other than he has been married (and having physical relations with his wife) for 27 years, producing 2 gorgeous daughters.
Well done to him, hope he can have a happy and contented life.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Well Didge that’s your opinion. Like I said we don’t actually know at all what went on behind closed doors. Perhaps she loves him as he is truly is and didn’t want to be with anyone else? I’ve known plenty of people who have loved someone else that on the face of it were not realistic such as gay/lesbian, married, race/religion/culture, incarcerated and back in the day out of their social class etc...

Would you class Elizabeth Morris as one of those who, in your opinion, can’t simply wake up and decide she’s a lesbian? Because in according to your train of thought, she was a straight female married to a at the time straight bloke who then turned into a woman. She loved the person no matter what his/her sexuality was. And stayed after the change. What matters is they did what made them and their children happy and I’m sure the Schofields will do the same.

I’m sure Phil will be very upset to know you don’t have any time for him now or that he has lost your respect.

I have a suspicion though that his public coming out was partly being true to himself but I also can’t help wonder if somebody else or the media were going to put him like they did with poor Garett and his family. Absolutely shocking. This obsession with knowing or feeling that people have an absolute right to know all of the ins and outs of lives of people in the public eye is quite frankly very disturbing in my opinion.

Anyway have a great day. Off to get my nails done and run a bazillion errands before we fly tomorrow. My real dilemma is whether to have a bacon and egg or sausage and egg sandwich first when we land on Friday. Decisions, decisions...I say both because calories don’t count on your birthday. It’s one of the universal laws like Newton’s relativity thingy.

Cass wrote:Well Didge that’s your opinion. Like I said we don’t actually know at all what went on behind closed doors. Perhaps she loves him as he is truly is and didn’t want to be with anyone else? I’ve known plenty of people who have loved someone else  that on the face of it were not realistic such as gay/lesbian, married, race/religion/culture, incarcerated and back in the day out of their social class etc...

Would you class Elizabeth Morris as one of those who, in your opinion, can’t simply wake up and decide she’s a lesbian? Because in according to your train of thought, she was a straight female married to a at the time straight bloke who then turned into a woman. She loved the person no matter what his/her sexuality was. And stayed after the change. What matters is they did what made them and their children happy and I’m sure the Schofields will do the same.

I’m sure Phil will be very upset to know you don’t have any time for him now or that he has lost your respect.

I have a suspicion though that his public coming out was partly being true to himself but I also can’t help wonder if somebody else or the media were going to put him like they did with poor Garett and his family. Absolutely shocking. This obsession with knowing or feeling that people have an absolute right to know all of the ins and outs of lives of people in the public eye is quite frankly very disturbing in my opinion.

Anyway have a great day. Off to get my nails done and run a bazillion errands before we fly tomorrow. My real dilemma is whether to have a bacon and egg or sausage and egg sandwich first when we land on Friday. Decisions, decisions...I say both because calories don’t count on your birthday. It’s one of the universal laws like Newton’s relativity thingy.

An egg bacon and sausage sandwich is the BEST hangover cure. Though one doesn't need the excuse of a hangover of course

Have a nice flight, Cass, say hi to Blighty for me! X

Cass wrote:Well Didge that’s your opinion. Like I said we don’t actually know at all what went on behind closed doors. Perhaps she loves him as he is truly is and didn’t want to be with anyone else? I’ve known plenty of people who have loved someone else  that on the face of it were not realistic such as gay/lesbian, married, race/religion/culture, incarcerated and back in the day out of their social class etc...

Would you class Elizabeth Morris as one of those who, in your opinion, can’t simply wake up and decide she’s a lesbian? Because in according to your train of thought, she was a straight female married to a at the time straight bloke who then turned into a woman. She loved the person no matter what his/her sexuality was. And stayed after the change. What matters is they did what made them and their children happy and I’m sure the Schofields will do the same.

I’m sure Phil will be very upset to know you don’t have any time for him now or that he has lost your respect.

I have a suspicion though that his public coming out was partly being true to himself but I also can’t help wonder if somebody else or the media were going to put him like they did with poor Garett and his family. Absolutely shocking. This obsession with knowing or feeling that people have an absolute right to know all of the ins and outs of lives of people in the public eye is quite frankly very disturbing in my opinion.

Anyway have a great day. Off to get my nails done and run a bazillion errands before we fly tomorrow. My real dilemma is whether to have a bacon and egg or sausage and egg sandwich first when we land on Friday. Decisions, decisions...I say both because calories don’t count on your birthday. It’s one of the universal laws like Newton’s relativity thingy.

1. Well they have two children Cass, how do you think they were created? By immaculate conception?
Does not matter whether they love each other in regards to being sexually excited for a male to have and maintain an erection to perform sex? You can know as many people as you like, but in regards to males. Its simple a reality that some gays will be bisexual with a preference for males.

As a male, which you are not and hence cannot understand this. We simple cannot force ourselves to become sexually excited. We simple become sexually excited, by what we are attracted to and what turns us on. So how did he become sexually excited and maintain this to produce two children? This is unlikely to have just been two times having sex either. Its going to be a number of times they will have had sex. Also he believed he was bisexual for years. Clearly with an attraction to his wife. Which people keep ignoring

I am of the view that in reality sexual orientation is more fluid that we currently understand. With far more people bisexual but with a preference for the same or opposite sex. This seems to be the case here. The claims around imagination before and during sex. Are completely irrational. Its also appalling to act this way lying to the individual they are sleeping with. I can see confusion in teens. In regards to understand what sexual orientation they are.

2. Actually many studies show in reality far more women are bisexual, again with a spectrum of more leaning to either male or female they prefer. There is no doubt some that are true lesbians. So care little in regard to Elizabeth Morris. Its again irrelevant, being as we are talking in regards to how males become sexually aroused.

3. Not concerned whether he is as I am not debating him, but people who simple fail to understand biological arousal in males

4. Personally I think he is a selfish wanker to be honest. Where again if he believes he is gay, even though he is clearly bisexual. Then he should have given a thought to his wife. To come out years earlier. This is just my opinion and I often think that of those gay who come out so late in life to me are selfish. If they have been married for years to a woman. They are leading a life of a lie.

5. Hope you have a great day too.x

Sorry but one more point and even more so why this is far removed from Eilzel's experience and many other people who came out gay

He never viewed he was gay until later in life and previously thought he was bisexual

To thus claim he was imagining sleeping with males whilst sleeping with his wife. Is not only an insult to the pair of them, but also fails to understand he clearly was for a number of years he clearly was attracted to his wife psychically and sexually. Hence the claim he imagined he was sleeping with a male. Is like I say nonsense.

Hence he has to be at least bisexual in regards to the one known woman he has slept with. His wife

He may clearly and well prefer males, but the fact is that still makes him bisexual

Eilzel wrote:

Cass wrote:Well Didge that’s your opinion. Like I said we don’t actually know at all what went on behind closed doors. Perhaps she loves him as he is truly is and didn’t want to be with anyone else? I’ve known plenty of people who have loved someone else  that on the face of it were not realistic such as gay/lesbian, married, race/religion/culture, incarcerated and back in the day out of their social class etc...

Would you class Elizabeth Morris as one of those who, in your opinion, can’t simply wake up and decide she’s a lesbian? Because in according to your train of thought, she was a straight female married to a at the time straight bloke who then turned into a woman. She loved the person no matter what his/her sexuality was. And stayed after the change. What matters is they did what made them and their children happy and I’m sure the Schofields will do the same.

I’m sure Phil will be very upset to know you don’t have any time for him now or that he has lost your respect.

I have a suspicion though that his public coming out was partly being true to himself but I also can’t help wonder if somebody else or the media were going to put him like they did with poor Garett and his family. Absolutely shocking. This obsession with knowing or feeling that people have an absolute right to know all of the ins and outs of lives of people in the public eye is quite frankly very disturbing in my opinion.

Anyway have a great day. Off to get my nails done and run a bazillion errands before we fly tomorrow. My real dilemma is whether to have a bacon and egg or sausage and egg sandwich first when we land on Friday. Decisions, decisions...I say both because calories don’t count on your birthday. It’s one of the universal laws like Newton’s relativity thingy.

An egg bacon and sausage sandwich is the BEST hangover cure. Though one doesn't need the excuse of a hangover of course

Have a nice flight, Cass, say hi to Blighty for me! X

Cheers. I’m gonna play the birthday/big anniversary card to see if we can get upgraded. Doubtful but wouldn’t it be lovely. Will do x

Bacon @egg Sandwich, don't forget the Daddies Sauce Cass. Wish you a good flight !

Agree with Nicko.
Happy landings Cass.

Nicko ketchup for me but Mr. C will take all the Daddies and HP you can throw at him.

Thanks guys. I am beyond excited. Doubt I will sleep tonight!

Eilzel wrote:

gelico wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

nicko wrote: A Man who has sexual relations with a man and a Woman is Bi-sexual, no matter what you chose to describe it . Bi------means two , doesn't it ?

If a man fucks another man in prison to release his urges, even though he has no attraction to other men, does that make him bi?

No.

Don't be so simple, nicko.

well if the desire to fuck another man is there then it does obviously.



otherwise just have a wank

Is there a desire to fuck a man there though? Or just the desire to fuck someone? It isn't uncommon in jail, and wanking is simply not the same as fucking.

I think everyone in this thread is coming at this from the pov of people with zero experience or understanding of this issue, and zero inclination to really understand it either.

Which just makes it all kind of arrogant since you all appear rather assured you are right.

I have experience here, as laid out in my long post on the previous page.

You don't understand what Schofield went through, so you 'decide' he 'must' be bi. That is arrogance I'm afraid.

I’ve read all your posts on the first page and I totally get what you’re saying and have  always understood it.

It could very well be that back in Schofield's youth, he felt there was no way people could accept his homosexuality, so he felt he'd have to try to change who he was in order to fit in. That happens in some form or fashion to nearly everyone.

That he's now come out, so long after it's become more acceptable to be gay, is probably just due to fear of how it would change his life and affect his loved ones.

Ben Reilly wrote:It could very well be that back in Schofield's youth, he felt there was no way people could accept his homosexuality, so he felt he'd have to try to change who he was in order to fit in. That happens in some form or fashion to nearly everyone.

That he's now come out, so long after it's become more acceptable to be gay, is probably just due to fear of how it would change his life and affect his loved ones.

Again for a long time he thought he was bisexual

This is clear by the fact he clearly had a loving, sexual relationship with his wife for a long time.

Like I said. Its clear to me a number of people who may not believe they are. Actually are bisexual with more a preference of one sex.

You simple cannot deny arousal

Its why there has been studies which show homophobes to have been sexually aroused by watching homosexual sex. Even though they are in heterosexual relationships. People are simple confused, at odds even at times, with what they are sexually attracted to. They want to fit into boxes

Its why some people change between bisexual and homosexuality. There is clearly a spectrum between the two

So he may come to believe he is gay now or believe he always has been, because its males that he has a preference for. That though does not detract from the fact he has been sexually aroused by his wife.

Hence bisexual

Ben Reilly wrote:It could very well be that back in Schofield's youth, he felt there was no way people could accept his homosexuality, so he felt he'd have to try to change who he was in order to fit in. That happens in some form or fashion to nearly everyone.

That he's now come out, so long after it's become more acceptable to be gay, is probably just due to fear of how it would change his life and affect his loved ones.

Great point. One fear switched to another. I genuinely believe he loves his family, and of course he'd be terrified of messing that up.

^thanks Eds, glad there are some people who get it.

Eilzel wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:It could very well be that back in Schofield's youth, he felt there was no way people could accept his homosexuality, so he felt he'd have to try to change who he was in order to fit in. That happens in some form or fashion to nearly everyone.

That he's now come out, so long after it's become more acceptable to be gay, is probably just due to fear of how it would change his life and affect his loved ones.

Great point. One fear switched to another. I genuinely believe he loves his family, and of course he'd be terrified of messing that up.

^thanks Eds, glad there are some people who get it.

As if people did not get your point?

They did, yet some disagree. Stop being so arrogantly rude Eizel. Simple because I am challenging whether the understanding of sexual orientation is more fluid than we understand,

As of yet nobody has been able to refute what I have been saying in regards to sexual arousal

He is bi-sexual, period, don't make excuses for him !