Phillip Schofield

Came out as gay live on tv.
Bigger stars than him are openly gay, not sure why it's an issue, other than he has been married (and having physical relations with his wife) for 27 years, producing 2 gorgeous daughters.
Well done to him, hope he can have a happy and contented life.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

I heard her majesty was forced to deny rumours that she was abdicating the throne to pass on to Philip Schofield. Also, when contacted for comment, Jesus Christ said that the second coming was now cancelled as there was no way he could compete with the massive revelations of Philip Schofield


Philip Schofield, Philip Schofield, Philip Schofield

For the record, I'm announcing today, that I am coming out as straight.

Maddog wrote:For the record, I'm announcing today, that I am coming out as straight.  

#stunningandbrave

I wish you happiness

gelico wrote:

Maddog wrote:For the record, I'm announcing today, that I am coming out as straight.  

#stunningandbrave

I wish you happiness

How could he live a lie for 27 years, how could he do that to his wife and bring two persons to life feeling its all a lie?

Vintage wrote:How could he live a lie for 27 years, how could he do that to his wife and bring two persons to life feeling its all a lie?

He got famous when being gay was a no no for front line TV stars. His career boomed right around the time of the rise of AIDs and Thatcher's introduction of Section 28. He lived hiding his sexuality, it is easy to get stuck in the mode of thinking you can never tell anyone.

From appearances, he also does love his wife, even if the same kind of love isn't there. He may also have always wanted a family. From what he said, they have been extremely supportive.

Having been married 27 years would also have made coming out more difficult. I expect once he had kids he didn't want to destabilise their lives by coming out any sooner.

That said, it is shocking to me he has left so late, with there being such a large number of gay celebrities in modern Britain.

I'm happy for him, of course. None of us should judge having never been in another person's shoes.

He has to be true to himself I get that but how is taking someone to be your wife and bringing two new souls into the world justified if you are truly gay? How could he have a regular relationship with a woman? He must have had so much conflict being in a relationship with a woman but how can you do that to someone that you can't possibly love in the true sense if you aren't actually sexually attracted to them. I know love can change even in heterosexual partnerships to non sexual and deep love but generally that's just a stage you go through whether due to medical problems or just both not too physically motivated all along. I'm not sure how someone can find someone of the opposite sex physically attractive enough to marry if you are attracted to the same sex.
I'm totally confused by this but have to wish him well with the rest of his life.

Vintage wrote:How could he live a lie for 27 years, how could he do that to his wife and bring two persons to life feeling its all a lie?

It's quite possible that his wife has known about his sexuality for a long time. It could well be that he told her and his close friends long ago.
Given that being gay is no big deal these days or even these last few decades,  why is he being congratulated left right and centre like he's achieved something great. Like he's found a cure for the common cold, invented time travel, or split the atom. I do wish the boring rightwing pipsqueak would shut up. Who cares?

I always found him intensely annoying. Apparently he upset some of his work colleagues too, and got himself quite a reputation for feuding, and official complaints were filed against him.

But suddenly all is forgiven now, for the cameras - it's all hugs & kumbayah.

Maddog wrote:For the record, I'm announcing today, that

I am coming out as straight.  

Oi, get back in the closet!

Why did he open his big Mouth, there was no need after all this time "in the closet" .How embarrassing for his Wife and Daughters , it's look at me , aren't I brave !

nicko wrote: Why did he open his big Mouth, there was no need after all this time "in the closet" .How embarrassing for his Wife and Daughters , it's look at me , aren't I brave !

You wouldn't have a clue, tbf.

Of course you'll be on his side ,to be expected !

Vintage wrote:He has to be true to himself I get that but how is taking someone to be your wife and bringing two new souls into the world justified if you are truly gay? How  could he have a regular relationship with a woman? He must have had so much conflict being in a relationship with a woman but how can you do that to someone that you can't possibly love in the true sense if you aren't actually sexually attracted to them. I know love can change even in heterosexual partnerships to non sexual and deep love but generally that's just a stage you go through whether due to medical problems or just both not too physically  motivated all along. I'm not sure how someone can find someone of the opposite sex  physically attractive enough to marry if you are attracted to the same sex.
I'm totally confused by this but have to wish him well with the rest of his life.

+1

I get where its difficult for people. To come out, that come from a religious or a homophobic family, but in this day and age. Especially in the west. How is coming out some how a big deal? I feel sorry for his wife. This country has for years been very inclusive towards homosexuals. So he could have come out years ago.

I have always found him a selfish prick anyway

+1

PS, Will he lead the next "pride" parade ?

So, 57 years old and has been heterosexually married for nearly 30 years with 2 children... But now he suddenly says that he has turned gay...


Looks like gays aren't born gay at all... But "turned" gay by some other means...

Tommy Monk wrote:


So, 57 years old and has been heterosexually married for nearly 30 years with 2 children... But now he suddenly says that he has turned gay...


Looks like gays aren't born gay at all... But "turned" gay by some other means...

I would say its more likely he is bisexual, with a preference for males and this is nothing more than a publicity stunt

No such thing as heterosexually married. What a really absurd thing to say

I actually thing being gay is actually far more so rare than is believed

That in reality more people are bisexual

This has been shown in many studies of late with gay women tending to be actually more bisexual

Nobody can control who they are attracted to but only act on that attraction

nicko wrote:+1

Thanks mate

Tommy Monk wrote:



Looks like gays aren't born gay at all... But "turned" gay by some other means...

Nobody turns gay

They are either attracted to the same sex or both sexes

He says that he is now homosexual... Having previously been heterosexual, married to a woman for nearly 30 years and with 2 children...


So... previously sexually interested in women... now only sexually interested in men...

Tommy Monk wrote:He says that he is now homosexual... Having previously been heterosexual, married to a woman for nearly 30 years and with 2 children...


So... previously sexually interested in women... now only sexually interested in men...

How in anyway does that dispel what I previously said?
In that he clearly is bisexual?

I think a vast number of gay men and women are bisexual but to varying degrees of attraction.
Some favour more so men over women and visa versa

Hence my view I think its far rarer to find someone who is actually gay

In that I think many people vastly cast themselves as gay and not bisexual as they should be

Its actually not fair to gay people when they do this

I think it has more to do with words how and why people assign to a group

Gay has always been seen as flamboyant, extrovert ect. Only those with same sex attraction are like this

Those not camp when they have come out. Are to me simple bisexual. With more of a leaning to the same sex with attraction. This vast majority of people are not being honest with themselves. They are not placing themselves in the correct category.

If a person is truly gay. They would never be sexually excited with the opposite sex

Hence getting a hard on would be physically impossible

As we cannot control what turns us on

Hence to me a vast number of gay people are in fact bisexual and wont admit to this. As they naturally have a preference to the same sex, but not always.

Hence bisexual

People gay are those who can never be turned on by the opposite sex

He has changed from heterosexual to homosexual...

Tommy Monk wrote:He has changed from heterosexual to homosexual...

To the public he has, but he cannot change who he can be attracted to Tommy?

Its clear PS clearly favours a male arse or willy?

No such thing as a female willy...


He used to like the fanny... Now he just wants willy...


He has turned gay... Showing that gays are not born gay but made gay...

Tommy Monk wrote:

No such thing as a female willy...


He used to like the fanny... Now he just wants willy...


He has turned gay... Showing that gays are not born gay but made gay...

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nutpicking

Not a fallacy... he was heterosexual... now he says he is no longer heterosexual and no longer interested in women... He is now only interested in men...


He has changed from heterosexual to homosexual... Therefore that is proof that gays are changed to be that way, not born that way...!

I think SOME of these men who suddenly come out as gay even tho they have wives, should more accurately describe themselves as bisexual. Unless they are saying they've had no physical relationship with their wives in decades? 

It's annoying that so much fuss is being made over the whole thing BUT when all is said and done I wish him & his wife well. Everyone deserves happiness whether gay or straight.

He has changed into a fully fledged homosexual...

Tommy Monk wrote:

Not a fallacy... he was heterosexual... now he says he is no longer heterosexual and no longer interested in women... He is now only interested in men...


He has changed from heterosexual to homosexual... Therefore that is proof that gays are changed to be that way, not born that way...!

Its nut-picking fallacy and nobody chooses their sexuality Tommy

He was clearly always bisexual

Not according to him...

If his wife is okay about you can bet she has someone lined up to fill her panties.

Just sayin’.

Tommy Monk wrote:

No such thing as a female willy...


He used to like the fanny... Now he just wants willy...


He has turned gay... Showing that gays are not born gay but made gay...

If you can't get your head around this, then you must be pretty thick tbh. Not that that comes as a surpring revelation to me, of course; you just aren't normally so blatant about it.

I suppose thinking is painful for you eh.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Not a fallacy... he was heterosexual... now he says he is no longer heterosexual and no longer interested in women... He is now only interested in men...


He has changed from heterosexual to homosexual... Therefore that is proof that gays are changed to be that way, not born that way...!

You have no real concept of humans.

What is so wrong/bad in accepting that some people just turn gay...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:What is so wrong/bad in accepting that some people just turn gay...!?

You are side-stepping the issue, are you not?  The issue is election vs. natural, not the mere result that one turns gay.

All the evidence says it is not a choice, but genetic.  Perhaps it is latent in one's genetic make-up, and at some point one 'comes out'.  But that is not "turning", but realizing, and sometimes, perhaps, revealing.

Tommy Monk wrote:

No such thing as a female willy...

Actually, there is. The homologous organ in the female is the clitoris...or, to be specific, the clitoris is the equivalent of the corpora cavernosa of the penis.

A willy is a penis...


Women don't have a penis...

Tommy Monk wrote:

A willy is a penis...

Women don't have a penis...

See ^ above, for a much more informed conclusion.

Not a penis...


Although you can often be a penis...

Tommy Monk wrote:

Not a penis...

Although you can often be a penis...

See ^ above, for a much more informed conclusion.

Yawn...

He must be bisexual as Didge said. As for his wife and family what can they say except what they have said and preserve their sanity and dignity.
As for a male and female body it all starts out the same but the bits and pieces develop along the gestation period as required for male and female.

Vintage wrote:He must be bisexual as Didge said. As for his wife and family what can they say except what they have said and preserve their sanity and dignity.
As for a male and female body it all starts out the same but the bits and pieces develop along the gestation period as required for male and female.

I'm afraid you are missing key points on human psychology combined with the impact of culture, so I have three points that should show he is almost certainly not bisexual.

Being gay, I had to come to terms with it myself in an environment which until I was in my twenties, and especially in high school, was hostile to gay people. As a result I fully denied it to myself until 18 (though it was absolutely a fact) and only accepted I wasn't bisexual at 20. I tried having girlfriends but it would never work out, despite how much they liked me and I liked their personalities, there was obviously never any attraction on my part. But denial and fear are powerful motivators - and culture plays a massive role in making 'trying to be straight' a far more compelling thing than 'trying to be gay'. In fact, there were times in my life when denial was so strong I actually thought I couldn't be gay because I thought gay sex seemed 'gross'.

Which brings me to my next point.

Our society, until very recently (last 20 years really) has treated gay people badly, uses gay words as a term of insult and been disgusted at gay sex acts. This has had the historic impact of making gay people feel deep shame and disgust at themselves, which almost certainly contributed to my own confusion as a teen. But this wasn't always the case. Gay sex acts were famously common in ancient Greece and Rome, even among straight people (as rights of passage, to build military bonds or whatever else). What I'm going to call the 'ick factor' didn't exist. Now can we really accept that as centuries passed people just naturally decided gay sex acts were just gross and wrong, or did the rise of certain religious cultures and laws cause a major cultural shift against homosexuality? I'd say the latter is far more likely.

Point being, by the 20th century the idea of even entertaining homosexual acts was abhorrent to most people, certainly straught people but also some closeted gay people brought up with years of anti-gay indoctrination. It impacted me certainly, and Schofield comes from an even more homophobic time than I do. You can, psychologically, convince yourself you are not something; but your natural desires will always be there in the end.

To be clear, I'm saying it is easier for a gay person to put himself through a straight relationship because while they might not feel anything sexually, the cultural ick factor isn't there to stop them at least trying. Meanwhile, if a straight person even for a moment considered likewise, the cultural ick factor crushes it almost immediately.

Though even this is changing. I have a straight friend who once tried gay sex; he said he didn't like it but didn't regret trying. His story is not that uncommon either. Culture is changing though, to a point where society is no longer disgusted or opposed, hence young people today have an easier time of it.

Finally, Schofield himself recently stated he considered years ago he might be bisexual, but realised that was not the case. Apparently his wife has known for years.

Anyway, I hope someone reads all this after I spent 5 minutes typing it out. I honestly think the cultural and psychological impacts are often overlooked by people who really just don't understand sexuality beyond the imposed 'norms'.

He is bisexual and its very easy to prove
Sexual orientation is about physical and sexual attraction
He is and has been attracted to sexually and psychically to both sexes.

Ergo bisexual, with a leaning far more to his own sex

I think many gay people are in denial to the reality that is is very much on a spectrum

If you can get sexually excited enough to sleep with someone of both sexes, then you are bisexual

Its as simple as that

+1

Thorin wrote:He is bisexual and its very easy to prove
Sexual orientation is about physical and sexual attraction
He is and has been attracted to sexually and psychically to both sexes.

Ergo bisexual, with a leaning far more to his own sex

I think many gay people are in denial to the reality that is is very much on a spectrum

If you can get sexually excited enough to sleep with someone of both sexes, then you are bisexual

Its as simple as that

Afraid not, for the reasons I laid out above.

I DO agree there is a spectrum, but if Schofield says he is gay, and felt the need to come out about it, thus changing his relationship status, then he is clearly not and never has been sexually attracted to his wife. If he was, he wouldn't need to bother with the revelation.

Imagination goes a long way in making it possible to have sex with someone you are not attracted to. If he is not sexually attracted to women, but he is men, then he is gay.

Simple as that.

A Man who has sexual relations with a man and a Woman is Bi-sexual, no matter what you chose to describe it . Bi------means two , doesn't it ?

nicko wrote: A Man who has sexual relations with a man and a Woman is Bi-sexual, no matter what you chose to describe it . Bi------means two , doesn't it ?

If a man fucks another man in prison to release his urges, even though he has no attraction to other men, does that make him bi?

No.

Don't be so simple, nicko.