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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:02 pm

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The country has clearly clearly stuck two fingers up to Corbyn

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Predicted 368 seats for Tories and 191 for Labour

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:50 pm

Les said...

"Yeah, I forgot rich people aren't supposed to want to help prdinary people. A politician being rich doesn't mean they can't represent working people."


If only lefties applied the same thinking for all politicians and people...



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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:51 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:Well, a word of warning from an old hand at this sort of thing...

I remember vividly Neil Kinnock strutting up and down a stage in, I think, my native Sheffield, at the close of the 1992 election chanting "we're alright! We're alright!" at the same time as a hapless minion was desperately trying to attract his attention with the news that he and his party had gone down the pipe big time.

I hope to God Corbyn has been defeated...but for a few hours yet I shall keep my fingers crossed and the Champagne on ice.

If he and his dangerous Marxist clique of Momentum economic illiterates and outright thugs have bombed, all well and good in my book. And I hope that it will result in decent and talented Labour moderates, of whom there are many, ditching the whole bunch of Commie bastards and putting in place a leadership that can act as a true Loyal Opposition, which we badly need, that will not only hold the future Government properly to account but also contribute to ensuring that our future out of Europe, as demanded by a large majority of we ordinary folk, will be a bright and prosperous one.

And I, for one, am and always have been firmly convinced that it can.
it is an exit poll but they are rarely more than 10 out either way

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:52 pm

Eilzel wrote:I agree, Corbyn was a major factor. Lacking in authority and charisma. The media contributed at least half of the hate against him though.

Regardless, he HAS to go after this and Labour need to regroup around a younger, less divisive leader.

On the plus side, since Brexit won't be an issue in 2024, a lot of those Brexit voters may not go Tory next time.
he's the magic grandpa, how come the people claiming this have not mentioned it until now. People do not like antisemites and they do not like their enablers. If you vote labour you most definatley are an enabler

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Post by gelico on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:52 pm

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les, big up

first of all, i don't read tabloids, i don't watch tv

what i do is look at comments made by certain people.  i watch interviews they give, that is how i form my opinions.  i don't need tabloid lines, thank you

and even if you insist they are just regurgitated tabloid lines, so what?  it doesn't make them any less true.

unless of course you want to refute what i've said

secondly, i wasn't comparing corbyn to millionaire moguls.  as you well know, i was comparing him to the average working person.

if you want to vote for such a man then that's your choice but at least own the truth of what he is


Yeah, I forgot rich people aren't supposed to want to help prdinary people. A politician being rich doesn't mean they can't represent working people.


meh, all of us as ''ordinary'' humans can help ''ordinary'' people, if by that you mean working class. I often do and I'm not rich

helping someone is one thing

actually understanding their position and representing them is a different matter

someone who has barely worked a job in his life isn't much of a representative of the working class, just my humble opinion.

so anyhoos,,,,,,no refuting those regurgitated tabloid lines then, i see


glad you accept the truth even if you can't bring yourself to say it

i understand

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:54 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Victorismyhero wrote:pound up 3 cents against the dollar on the exit poll

Short term gains, mate. It's still miles off 2016 level and Brexit lurking round the corner.
it was in the 1.40's in 2016

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Post by Eilzel on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:54 pm

gelico wrote:
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gelico wrote:


les, big up

first of all, i don't read tabloids, i don't watch tv

what i do is look at comments made by certain people.  i watch interviews they give, that is how i form my opinions.  i don't need tabloid lines, thank you

and even if you insist they are just regurgitated tabloid lines, so what?  it doesn't make them any less true.

unless of course you want to refute what i've said

secondly, i wasn't comparing corbyn to millionaire moguls.  as you well know, i was comparing him to the average working person.

if you want to vote for such a man then that's your choice but at least own the truth of what he is


Yeah, I forgot rich people aren't supposed to want to help prdinary people. A politician being rich doesn't mean they can't represent working people.


meh, all of us as ''ordinary'' humans can help ''ordinary'' people, if by that you  mean working class.  I often do and I'm not rich

helping someone is one thing

actually understanding their position and representing them is a different matter

someone who has barely worked a job in his life isn't much of a representative of the working class, just my humble opinion.

so anyhoos,,,,,,no refuting those regurgitated tabloid lines then, i see


glad you accept the truth even if you can't bring yourself to say it

i understand

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They've been refuted throughout the campaign. Here and on social media. It's boring now.

Better hope your man sorts this shit out.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:56 pm

Eilzel wrote:
gelico wrote:i don't understand this

labour look like they're gonna be kicked into oblivion

why though?  scratch



corbyn has allowed his party to be infested with jew hatred

that didn't work for him

he has sucked up to every terrorist group in existence

that didn't work for him

he's offered to plunge the country into trillions of debt in order to throw out freebies to all and sundry

that didn't work for him

he's allowed students to have the ability to vote twice

that didn't work for him

he's even had Diane Abbot out and about sporting odd shoes in the hope of picking up some extra votes

but even that didn't work for him

and if Diane Abbott parading around in odd shoes doesn't get the vote for them then I really don't know what will

wtf is he meant to do?




Buy the billionaire owned media, and have them report on more important things than how he referred to certain groups years ago, communist bogey men and what shoes someone wears - you know, like how the likely Prime Minister is ACTUALLY going to 'get Brexit done' Rolling Eyes
the bbc, sky and channel 4 have been all pro remain and anti tory for the last 3 years. 40 years of siding with the enemy was on show for all to see about corbyn

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:57 pm

Eilzel wrote:Looking at Newcastle, I reckon, as Farage claimed, the Brexit party has helped Tories steal it by taking Labour votes in the North.

This really was a Brexit election, not a realignment of British politics.
the bxp have already handed sunderland to labour

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:59 pm

Thorin wrote:Interesting the Brexit party cost the Conservatives Sunderland South
16,000 For Labour (down 8,000 from 2017)
13,000 for the Tories
6,000 for the Brexit Party

So far two holds for Labour but down on their votes in each
down consistent with the exit poll

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Post by Eilzel on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:00 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Looking at Newcastle, I reckon, as Farage claimed, the Brexit party has helped Tories steal it by taking Labour votes in the North.

This really was a Brexit election, not a realignment of British politics.
the bxp have already handed sunderland to labour

If Brexit party hadn't existed, many of those who voted them might never have voted Tory. Your party looks to have dominated, and you can't even acknowledge the role Farage's party have played. He said what would happen and looking at Newcastle and Sunderland it has.

The same voters moving in less urban areas are what will have gifted it to Boris.


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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:01 am

Eilzel wrote:
Thorin wrote:Interesting the Brexit party cost the Conservatives Sunderland South
16,000 For Labour (down 8,000 from 2017)
13,000 for the Tories
6,000 for the Brexit Party

So far two holds for Labour but down on their votes in each

Erm, clearly a large amount of those 8000 look to have jumped to Brexit from Labour. Brexit party might have helped the Tories if that pattern is repeated.
yes the bxp handed the seat to labour

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:02 am

was it something I said ROFL

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:06 am


But les... the brexit party does exist... because of the need for the party to exist... because of the huge public desire to leave the EU and the failure of the other party's to represent this huge public opinion!!!



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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:06 am

Thorin wrote:And just as I predicted. The extreme left are not looking to themselves as to their own failures here. They are already going after Jews on Twitter blaming them.

Even Labour supporters hope and believe they will now get their party back through such a drubbing. This proves the extent of hate they have for Corbyn. That they would rather have a Tory Government than see Corbyn in power

The Middle Class champagne socialists simple are out of touch with how the majority of this country feel with Labour under Corbyn and Momentum

Could you post some of the tweets here? That's disgraceful.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:08 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Thorin wrote:Interesting the Brexit party cost the Conservatives Sunderland South
16,000 For Labour (down 8,000 from 2017)
13,000 for the Tories
6,000 for the Brexit Party

So far two holds for Labour but down on their votes in each

Erm, clearly a large amount of those 8000 look to have jumped to Brexit from Labour. Brexit party might have helped the Tories if that pattern is repeated.
yes the bxp handed the seat to labour

Happens all the time -- two candidates perceived as left (or right) will hand the election to the one seen as right (or left).

Good to see you back, man! Where ya been?

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Post by Eilzel on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:11 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
But les... the brexit party does exist... because of the need for the party to exist... because of the huge public desire to leave the EU and the failure of the other party's to represent this huge public opinion!!!



It will diminish into the irrelevant 'Reform' party now. Depending on how the country fares now, 2024 will be interesting.

Looking at Sunderland Central. -13 for Labour, +12 for Brexit. Tories +2.

Of course Labour won there, but Brexit basically taking 10% of the Labour vote in Northern seats is OBVIOUSLY what has cost them big time where Tories and Labour had been closer in the Red Wall.

It is pure Conservative arrogance to say Brexit cost Tories any seats when it appears they've actually won them this election.

NOTE: btw, I know you didn't claim that tommy, I'm sure you are aware of the BP impact here lol

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Post by Guest on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:14 am

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
But les... the brexit party does exist... because of the need for the party to exist... because of the huge public desire to leave the EU and the failure of the other party's to represent this huge public opinion!!!



It will diminish into the irrelevant 'Reform' party now. Depending on how the country fares now, 2024 will be interesting.

Looking at Sunderland Central. -13 for Labour, +12 for Brexit. Tories +2.

Of course Labour won there, but Brexit basically taking 10% of the Labour vote in Northern seats is OBVIOUSLY what had cost them big time where Tories and Labour had been closer in the Red Wall.

It is pure Conservative arrogance to say Brexit cost Tories any seats when it appears they've actually won them this election.

Arrogant? More like you are utterly clueless to the fact the Tories would have won Sunderland, if there was no Brexit Party. It means the votes for brexit have helped Labour hold some seats.

Seriously mate get a grip

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:14 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
yes the bxp handed the seat to labour

Happens all the time -- two candidates perceived as left (or right) will hand the election to the one seen as right (or left).

Good to see you back, man! Where ya been?
they have also handed sunderland central to labour.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:16 am

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
But les... the brexit party does exist... because of the need for the party to exist... because of the huge public desire to leave the EU and the failure of the other party's to represent this huge public opinion!!!



It will diminish into the irrelevant 'Reform' party now. Depending on how the country fares now, 2024 will be interesting.

Looking at Sunderland Central. -13 for Labour, +12 for Brexit. Tories +2.

Of course Labour won there, but Brexit basically taking 10% of the Labour vote in Northern seats is OBVIOUSLY what has cost them big time where Tories and Labour had been closer in the Red Wall.

It is pure Conservative arrogance to say Brexit cost Tories any seats when it appears they've actually won them this election.

NOTE: btw, I know you didn't claim that tommy, I'm sure you are aware of the BP impact here lol
if the tories win 80+ then 2024 will be a non starter for labour, who having concluded they lost for not being left wing enough yet again will have lurched even further left. and 2029 might be out of the question. But rejoice labour have lost 4 on the trot now.

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Post by Guest on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:17 am

So labour hold Sunderland central but are down again by 7,000 votes to 18,000. The Tories had 15,000 and Brexit party had 5,000 seats

Brexit voting here allowed for Labour to hold another seat

If The Brexit party had of not had any candidates in this election

It would have been an even bigger whitewash of labour

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:17 am

where's my special friend antisemite enabler Andwew.

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where's my special friend antisemite enabler Andwew.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:21 am

stoke on trent, labour mp gareth snell on the bbc says he has lost. more joy

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Post by Eilzel on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:26 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
But les... the brexit party does exist... because of the need for the party to exist... because of the huge public desire to leave the EU and the failure of the other party's to represent this huge public opinion!!!



It will diminish into the irrelevant 'Reform' party now. Depending on how the country fares now, 2024 will be interesting.

Looking at Sunderland Central. -13 for Labour, +12 for Brexit. Tories +2.

Of course Labour won there, but Brexit basically taking 10% of the Labour vote in Northern seats is OBVIOUSLY what has cost them big time where Tories and Labour had been closer in the Red Wall.

It is pure Conservative arrogance to say Brexit cost Tories any seats when it appears they've actually won them this election.

NOTE: btw, I know you didn't claim that tommy, I'm sure you are aware of the BP impact here lol
if the tories win 80+ then 2024 will be a non starter for labour, who having concluded they lost for not being left wing enough yet again will have lurched even further left. and 2029 might be out of the question. But rejoice labour have lost 4 on the trot now.

They already lurched left 3x now. And this may be their biggest loss yet.

Last time they lost 3x in a row was in 1992. And then they shifted centre. Can you remind me what happened after that? Must've slipped my mind.

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Post by Eilzel on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:30 am

By the way, the Tory election record in ten years is shoddy. A coalition, a scrapped majority, a lost majority. Boris has their best result yet and that's thanks to Brexit.

IF (and it is IF) Labour sort their shit out, drop Corbyn and move toward the centre, the Tories are a mess long term.

And don't underestimate the impact of Brexit vote here. Thousands who voted them would never have voted Tory.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:31 am

tories up in swindon north

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Eilzel wrote:By the way, the Tory election record in ten years is shoddy. A coalition, a scrapped majority, a lost majority. Boris has their best result yet and that's thanks to Brexit.

IF (and it is IF) Labour sort their shit out, drop Corbyn and move toward the centre, the Tories are a mess long term.

And don't underestimate the impact of Brexit vote here. Thousands who voted them would never have voted Tory.
and now we have a leader who wants to lead and loves the country, and loved by the country

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Post by Eilzel on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:33 am

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Eilzel wrote:By the way, the Tory election record in ten years is shoddy. A coalition, a scrapped majority, a lost majority. Boris has their best result yet and that's thanks to Brexit.

IF (and it is IF) Labour sort their shit out, drop Corbyn and move toward the centre, the Tories are a mess long term.

And don't underestimate the impact of Brexit vote here. Thousands who voted them would never have voted Tory.
and now we have a leader who wants to lead and loves the country, and loved by the country

He is far from loved. Brexit and the Brexit party won him this election.

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and now we have a leader who wants to lead and loves the country, and loved by the country

He is far from loved. Brexit and the Brexit party won him this election.
well obvs not by people like you and the rest of the remainiac snowflakes and antisemites

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tweet of the night so far

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Post by gelico on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:40 am


saw an interview with owen jones trying to work out how they lost

he's just so cute when he's confused


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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:45 am

the bxp just handed sunderland west to labour

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:46 am

11% swing from labour to tories

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gelico wrote:
saw an interview with owen jones trying to work out how they lost

he's just so cute when he's confused


lol!
chortle. He is an antisemite enabler

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Post by gelico on Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:56 am

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1205288815910367232



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gelico wrote:https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1205288815910367232



LOL!
titania is hilarious

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workington man voted tory
lab 16312
con 20488
bxp 174
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labour since the 70's

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:28 am

snp slaughter labour in Rutherglen and Hamilton West
5.1% swing from lab to snp.

tories down as well.
looks like the tories and labour might not do well in scotland

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Broxbourne is conservative hold

isn't that Soubry's neck of the woods?




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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:31 am

snp slaughter labour in Rutherglen and Hamilton West
5.1% swing from lab to snp.

tories down as well.
looks like the tories and labour might not do well in scotland

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tories gain darlington

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Broxbourne is conservative hold

isn't that Soubry's neck of the woods?



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heidi allen spitting her dummy on bbc now. Chortle

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Post by gelico on Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:34 am




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Post by gelico on Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:35 am

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Broxbourne is conservative hold

isn't that Soubry's neck of the woods?



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ah, yes, thanks

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:43 am

what happened to all the left wing antisemite enablers on here tonight?

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A few months ago, I suggested that BJ, Nige and their money-up chums could be deliberately engineering that post-Brexit crash that will be pushing Britain into a recession over the next couple of years...

All prepared to make a few $$billions$$ on the stockmarket, via buying low, selling high, with the odd spot of 'short--selling' and market manipulation to liven things up..

 If that oft-predicted recession does hit next year,  there could be a few Tories around here "smiling on the other side of their faces".

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Post by gelico on Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:46 am





Les was on earlier.

I'm not sure but I think andy may actually be unwell right now.

I hope he's ok but he's not been here for a while now


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Post by 'Wolfie on Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:46 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:what happened to all the left wing antisemite enablers on here tonight?
scratch

Name one,  DYKhead...

You pathetic lying little piece of shit..

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