$12K A Day: How White Liberals Profit From Pushing ‘White Privilege’

White liberal academics can earn more in a day lecturing about their own “white privilege” than the median black household makes in three months, public records obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation and U.S. Census data show.

Left-wing academic Robin DiAngelo is renowned in social justice circles for crafting the “white privilege checklist” and for coining the term “white fragility.” Listening to her speak comes at a steep price.

DiAngelo, who is white, charged the University of Kentucky $12,000, not counting travel expenses, housing accommodations and meals, for a two-hour “Racial Justice Keynote and breakout session” in March, according to a copy of the speaking contract obtained by the DCNF through public records requests.


https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/28/white-liberals-profit-privilege/



lol awkward. Even funnier when you think these same very proponents of this, teaching this. Are post modern Marxist@s, who are exploiting capitliasm to the full. You cannot get better irony than this. How so absurd these ideologies are and how the proponents act against every principle they claim to stand by.

Priceless

Does the fact that she earns a lot of money mean that her theories are wrong?

Ben Reilly wrote:Does the fact that she earns a lot of money mean that her theories are wrong?

I see you failed to see the irony, but hey what is new.

https://quillette.com/2018/08/24/the-problem-with-white-fragility-theory/

https://areomagazine.com/2019/05/10/white-fragility-theory-mistakes-correlation-for-causation/

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:Does the fact that she earns a lot of money mean that her theories are wrong?

I see you failed to see the irony, but hey what is new.

https://quillette.com/2018/08/24/the-problem-with-white-fragility-theory/

https://areomagazine.com/2019/05/10/white-fragility-theory-mistakes-correlation-for-causation/

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

What I see is Al Gore all over again -- it's fine for right-wingers to make money, but don't let a left-winger do it or it's somehow ironic or hypocritical.

What it actually is, is bullshit. Money is power, and the right expects the left to cripple itself at the start of the race.

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

I see you failed to see the irony, but hey what is new.

https://quillette.com/2018/08/24/the-problem-with-white-fragility-theory/

https://areomagazine.com/2019/05/10/white-fragility-theory-mistakes-correlation-for-causation/

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

What I see is Al Gore all over again -- it's fine for right-wingers to make money, but don't let a left-winger do it or it's somehow ironic or hypocritical.

What it actually is, is bullshit. Money is power, and the right expects the left to cripple itself at the start of the race.

So its even worse than I thought. You do not even actually see what the irony here is.

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

I see you failed to see the irony, but hey what is new.

https://quillette.com/2018/08/24/the-problem-with-white-fragility-theory/

https://areomagazine.com/2019/05/10/white-fragility-theory-mistakes-correlation-for-causation/

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

What I see is Al Gore all over again -- it's fine for right-wingers to make money, but don't let a left-winger do it or it's somehow ironic or hypocritical.

What it actually is, is bullshit. Money is power, and the right expects the left to cripple itself at the start of the race.

So its even worse than I thought. You do not even actually see what the irony here is.

Maybe try to shift the debate from something other than me. If DiAngelo took a vow of poverty, would that help black people?

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

So its even worse than I thought. You do not even actually see what the irony here is.

Maybe try to shift the debate from something other than me. If DiAngelo took a vow of poverty, would that help black people?

It was you that tried to shift the debate, not me.

I see you still fail to see the irony

Nobody should be pushing White Privilege. Fuck sake.

eddie wrote:Nobody should be pushing White Privilege. Fuck sake.

Why not? I think it's a valid idea.

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

So its even worse than I thought. You do not even actually see what the irony here is.

Maybe try to shift the debate from something other than me. If DiAngelo took a vow of poverty, would that help black people?

It was you that tried to shift the debate, not me.

I see you still fail to see the irony

So she's white and she's earning a lot more money than the average black person, and she's going around saying that being white gives you certain advantages over black people in America.

Again, if she were to take a vow of poverty, would that help black people?

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

It was you that tried to shift the debate, not me.

I see you still fail to see the irony

So she's white and she's earning a lot more money than the average black person, and she's going around saying that being white gives you certain advantages over black people in America.

Again, if she were to take a vow of poverty, would that help black people?

Still failing to see the irony

The concept is racist itself

So what are these privileges that all white Americans have and all African Americans do not?

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:Nobody should be pushing White Privilege. Fuck sake.

Why not? I think it's a valid idea.

Times have moved on and this whole white privilege thing seems a bit.....outdated.

When should we stop apologising?

White privilege keeps everyone believing that this is a “big group” when really...it bloody isn’t. It’s just fluffy white people who want to make sure they’re not seen as racist. Bore off.

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

It was you that tried to shift the debate, not me.

I see you still fail to see the irony

So she's white and she's earning a lot more money than the average black person, and she's going around saying that being white gives you certain advantages over black people in America.

Again, if she were to take a vow of poverty, would that help black people?

Still failing to see the irony

The concept is racist itself

So what are these privileges that all white Americans have and all African Americans do not?

White people have a white complexion and a white-sounding name, and that means that they will often be treated better in American society than black people will be.

They will get more job interviews, they'll have an easier time getting bank loans, and they won't be followed in shops as much as black people. There are plenty more examples; I can back up all of the ones I've said.

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:


Still failing to see the irony

The concept is racist itself

So what are these privileges that all white Americans have and all African Americans do not?

White people have a white complexion and a white-sounding name, and that means that they will often be treated better in American society than black people will be.

They will get more job interviews, they'll have an easier time getting bank loans, and they won't be followed in shops as much as black people. There are plenty more examples; I can back up all of the ones I've said.

That is not white privillege. That is some people in society being racist towards Black people. Saying if some people do not suffer discrimination is now a privilege. That has to go down as one of most ridiculous things you have claimed. The problem is those in society who treat black people different. The ones who are racist. Not the people who have done nothing wrong.

I asked you whatare these privileges that all white Americans have and all African Americans do not?

You have not provided a single thing. All you have shown is that some people in society are treated poorly through racism

Try again

“What the researchers found is that among social liberals—i.e., participants who had indicated that they hold liberal beliefs about social issues—reading a text about white privilege did nothing to significantly increase their sympathy toward the plight of poor blacks. But, as Cooley told me, “it did significantly bump down their sympathy for a [hypothetical] poor white person.” (Among conservative participants, there was observed no significant change in attitudes at all.)

What accounts for this? One possibility is that social liberals are internalizing white-privilege lessons in a way that flattens the image of whites, portraying all of them as inherently privileged. So if a white person is poor, it must be his or her own fault. After all, they’ve had all sorts of advantages in life that others haven’t.

When we talk about racial inequality, it is important to understand that we’re often talking about structural or society-wide averages, not the status of all individuals at all times. It is true, for instance, that African Americans are disproportionately impacted by poverty. That means a higher percentage of African Americans live in poverty as compared to whites. But the largest number of individuals in the United States who live in poverty are white. We can’t, and we shouldn’t, assume anything about any individual’s life solely based on his or her race, or based on larger facts about racial inequality.“

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

eddie wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:Nobody should be pushing White Privilege. Fuck sake.

Why not? I think it's a valid idea.

Times have moved on and this whole white privilege thing seems a bit.....outdated.

When should we stop apologising?

White privilege keeps everyone believing that this is a “big group” when really...it bloody isn’t. It’s just fluffy white people who want to make sure they’re not seen as racist. Bore off.  

White privilege is simply about how it's easier to get ahead in America if you're white, as opposed to another race. It's been shown that people whose names sound black don't get as many call-backs for job interviews as white people, even when they have the exact same CV -- this was demonstrated when people created CVs and sent them out to employers, giving some of them white-sounding names and some of them black-sounding names.

It's not about apologizing or not wanting to be seen as racist, it's an American social phenomenon that has seen black college professors confronted by police when they struggled to unlock the front doors of their own houses.

It's a lot different in the UK, from what I've seen.

eddie wrote:“What the researchers found is that among social liberals—i.e., participants who had indicated that they hold liberal beliefs about social issues—reading a text about white privilege did nothing to significantly increase their sympathy toward the plight of poor blacks. But, as Cooley told me, “it did significantly bump down their sympathy for a [hypothetical] poor white person.” (Among conservative participants, there was observed no significant change in attitudes at all.)

What accounts for this? One possibility is that social liberals are internalizing white-privilege lessons in a way that flattens the image of whites, portraying all of them as inherently privileged. So if a white person is poor, it must be his or her own fault. After all, they’ve had all sorts of advantages in life that others haven’t.

When we talk about racial inequality, it is important to understand that we’re often talking about structural or society-wide averages, not the status of all individuals at all times. It is true, for instance, that African Americans are disproportionately impacted by poverty. That means a higher percentage of African Americans live in poverty as compared to whites. But the largest number of individuals in the United States who live in poverty are white. We can’t, and we shouldn’t, assume anything about any individual’s life solely based on his or her race, or based on larger facts about racial inequality.“

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

Black people make up about 10 percent of American society, so most Americans of any category are going to be white -- poor, rich, fat, skinny, whatever. That bolded part means nothing.

eddie wrote:“What the researchers found is that among social liberals—i.e., participants who had indicated that they hold liberal beliefs about social issues—reading a text about white privilege did nothing to significantly increase their sympathy toward the plight of poor blacks. But, as Cooley told me, “it did significantly bump down their sympathy for a [hypothetical] poor white person.” (Among conservative participants, there was observed no significant change in attitudes at all.)

What accounts for this? One possibility is that social liberals are internalizing white-privilege lessons in a way that flattens the image of whites, portraying all of them as inherently privileged. So if a white person is poor, it must be his or her own fault. After all, they’ve had all sorts of advantages in life that others haven’t.

When we talk about racial inequality, it is important to understand that we’re often talking about structural or society-wide averages, not the status of all individuals at all times. It is true, for instance, that African Americans are disproportionately impacted by poverty. That means a higher percentage of African Americans live in poverty as compared to whites. But the largest number of individuals in the United States who live in poverty are white. We can’t, and we shouldn’t, assume anything about any individual’s life solely based on his or her race, or based on larger facts about racial inequality.“

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

Indeed Eddie and also what happens?

TALKING ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE CAN REDUCE LIBERALS' SYMPATHY FOR POOR WHITE PEOPLE
New research finds that social liberals who read about the phenomenon are subsequently less forgiving toward poor whites

https://psmag.com/news/talking-about-white-privilege-can-reduce-liberal-sympathy-for-poor-white-people

Hence the co ncept of white privilege is racist and creats prejudice and discrimination.

The problem that needs to be tackled is prejudice and discrimination.
Not casting a racial group as collective to blame.
Its absurd and utter leftish claptrap

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:

Times have moved on and this whole white privilege thing seems a bit.....outdated.

When should we stop apologising?

White privilege keeps everyone believing that this is a “big group” when really...it bloody isn’t. It’s just fluffy white people who want to make sure they’re not seen as racist. Bore off.  

White privilege is simply about how it's easier to get ahead in America if you're white, as opposed to another race. It's been shown that people whose names sound black don't get as many call-backs for job interviews as white people, even when they have the exact same CV -- this was demonstrated when people created CVs and sent them out to employers, giving some of them white-sounding names and some of them black-sounding names.

It's not about apologizing or not wanting to be seen as racist, it's an American social phenomenon that has seen black college professors confronted by police when they struggled to unlock the front doors of their own houses.

It's a lot different in the UK, from what I've seen.

That is not white privillege. That is some people in society being racist towards Black people. Saying if some people do not suffer discrimination is now a privilege. That has to go down as one of most ridiculous things you have claimed. The problem is those in society who treat black people different. The ones who are racist. Not the people who have done nothing wrong.

I asked you whatare these privileges that all white Americans have and all African Americans do not?

You have not provided a single thing. All you have shown is that some people in society are treated poorly through racism

Try again

If anyone can be bothered, and considering you guys love an article...here’s a site with various articles

https://whiteprivilegeisntreal.org/amp/

phildidge wrote:

eddie wrote:“What the researchers found is that among social liberals—i.e., participants who had indicated that they hold liberal beliefs about social issues—reading a text about white privilege did nothing to significantly increase their sympathy toward the plight of poor blacks. But, as Cooley told me, “it did significantly bump down their sympathy for a [hypothetical] poor white person.” (Among conservative participants, there was observed no significant change in attitudes at all.)

What accounts for this? One possibility is that social liberals are internalizing white-privilege lessons in a way that flattens the image of whites, portraying all of them as inherently privileged. So if a white person is poor, it must be his or her own fault. After all, they’ve had all sorts of advantages in life that others haven’t.

When we talk about racial inequality, it is important to understand that we’re often talking about structural or society-wide averages, not the status of all individuals at all times. It is true, for instance, that African Americans are disproportionately impacted by poverty. That means a higher percentage of African Americans live in poverty as compared to whites. But the largest number of individuals in the United States who live in poverty are white. We can’t, and we shouldn’t, assume anything about any individual’s life solely based on his or her race, or based on larger facts about racial inequality.“

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

Indeed Eddie and also what happens?

TALKING ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE CAN REDUCE LIBERALS' SYMPATHY FOR POOR WHITE PEOPLE
New research finds that social liberals who read about the phenomenon are subsequently less forgiving toward poor whites

https://psmag.com/news/talking-about-white-privilege-can-reduce-liberal-sympathy-for-poor-white-people

Hence the co ncept of white privilege is racist and creats prejudice and discrimination.

The problem that needs to be tackled is prejudice and discrimination.
Not casting a racial group as collective to blame.
Its absurd and utter leftish claptrap

I disagree. It's always been easier to get by in America if you're white. Most people admit that.

It's just that now we call that phenomenon "white privilege," and some people don't like that term.

phildidge wrote:

eddie wrote:“What the researchers found is that among social liberals—i.e., participants who had indicated that they hold liberal beliefs about social issues—reading a text about white privilege did nothing to significantly increase their sympathy toward the plight of poor blacks. But, as Cooley told me, “it did significantly bump down their sympathy for a [hypothetical] poor white person.” (Among conservative participants, there was observed no significant change in attitudes at all.)

What accounts for this? One possibility is that social liberals are internalizing white-privilege lessons in a way that flattens the image of whites, portraying all of them as inherently privileged. So if a white person is poor, it must be his or her own fault. After all, they’ve had all sorts of advantages in life that others haven’t.

When we talk about racial inequality, it is important to understand that we’re often talking about structural or society-wide averages, not the status of all individuals at all times. It is true, for instance, that African Americans are disproportionately impacted by poverty. That means a higher percentage of African Americans live in poverty as compared to whites. But the largest number of individuals in the United States who live in poverty are white. We can’t, and we shouldn’t, assume anything about any individual’s life solely based on his or her race, or based on larger facts about racial inequality.“

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

Indeed Eddie and also what happens?

TALKING ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE CAN REDUCE LIBERALS' SYMPATHY FOR POOR WHITE PEOPLE
New research finds that social liberals who read about the phenomenon are subsequently less forgiving toward poor whites

https://psmag.com/news/talking-about-white-privilege-can-reduce-liberal-sympathy-for-poor-white-people

Hence the co ncept of white privilege is racist and creats prejudice and discrimination.

The problem that needs to be tackled is prejudice and discrimination.
Not casting a racial group as collective to blame.
Its absurd and utter leftish claptrap

It makes some white people feel better. That’s all I am willing to say.

Have a look at this:

https://whiteprivilegeisntreal.org/amp/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I60E98ivDiM

I think white privilege in America is real. Everybody knows American institutions have treated white people better than others for ages.

eddie wrote:If anyone can be bothered, and considering you guys love an article...here’s a site with various articles

https://whiteprivilegeisntreal.org/amp/

Have a look at each article.
I guess it will be called “biased”...and perhaps it is. Who knows?

For example, not getting lynched by the KKK is a long-standing white privilege.

Not being relegated to the back of the bus? Another white privilege that was in effect for a long time.

Just saying, there are other privileges enjoyed by whites in America to this very day.

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Indeed Eddie and also what happens?

TALKING ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE CAN REDUCE LIBERALS' SYMPATHY FOR POOR WHITE PEOPLE
New research finds that social liberals who read about the phenomenon are subsequently less forgiving toward poor whites

https://psmag.com/news/talking-about-white-privilege-can-reduce-liberal-sympathy-for-poor-white-people

Hence the co ncept of white privilege is racist and creats prejudice and discrimination.

The problem that needs to be tackled is prejudice and discrimination.
Not casting a racial group as collective to blame.
Its absurd and utter leftish claptrap

I disagree. It's always been easier to get by in America if you're white. Most people admit that.

It's just that now we call that phenomenon "white privilege," and some people don't like that term.

That is because you are failing to see the problem, racism itself

What you are doing is basically claiming all white people are to blame for this by saying white privilege

So the term is racist and does nothing to tackle actual racism. It actually creates a further divide, from what we actually are:

Human beings.

Ben Reilly wrote:I think white privilege in America is real. Everybody knows American institutions have treated white people better than others for ages.

Last word: if “everyone knows” then “everyone must be aware” ergo where is the privilege....really? It’s outdated and old hat.

I’ll leave you guys to thrash it out. I’ve left a link. Y’all love an article.

Ben Reilly wrote:I think white privilege in America is real. Everybody knows American institutions have treated white people better than others for ages.

Then those certain institutions or some of the people who have worked in them, that are doing wrong

That is not white privilege, that is discrimination by them

Hence your view of white privilege fails to look at the problem and instead poorly and incorrectly looks to collectivelly blame white people for this

Its absurd and does nothing to tackle racism

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Indeed Eddie and also what happens?

TALKING ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE CAN REDUCE LIBERALS' SYMPATHY FOR POOR WHITE PEOPLE
New research finds that social liberals who read about the phenomenon are subsequently less forgiving toward poor whites

https://psmag.com/news/talking-about-white-privilege-can-reduce-liberal-sympathy-for-poor-white-people

Hence the co ncept of white privilege is racist and creats prejudice and discrimination.

The problem that needs to be tackled is prejudice and discrimination.
Not casting a racial group as collective to blame.
Its absurd and utter leftish claptrap

I disagree. It's always been easier to get by in America if you're white. Most people admit that.

It's just that now we call that phenomenon "white privilege," and some people don't like that term.

That is because you are failing to see the problem, racism itself

What you are doing is basically claiming all white people are to blame for this by saying white privilege

So the term is racist and does nothing to tackle actual racism. It actually creates a further divide, from what we actually are:

Human beings.

Nowhere did I say that "all white people are to blame for this." That's not what white privilege means.

White privilege means it's easier to get by in America when you're white. Everyone knows that it is, anyway, at least in America.

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:I think white privilege in America is real. Everybody knows American institutions have treated white people better than others for ages.

Then those certain institutions or some of the people who have worked in them, that are doing wrong

That is not white privilege, that is discrimination by them

Hence your view of white privilege fails to look at the problem and instead poorly and incorrectly looks to collectivelly blame white people for this

Its absurd and does nothing to tackle racism

White privilege is the state of being free from discrimination, because you're not the one the bigots hate.

Ben Reilly wrote:For example, not getting lynched by the KKK is a long-standing white privilege.

Seriously, how is that a privilege?

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

I see you failed to see the irony, but hey what is new.

https://quillette.com/2018/08/24/the-problem-with-white-fragility-theory/

https://areomagazine.com/2019/05/10/white-fragility-theory-mistakes-correlation-for-causation/

https://quillette.com/2019/05/23/what-does-teaching-white-privilege-actually-accomplish-not-what-you-might-think-or-hope/

What I see is Al Gore all over again -- it's fine for right-wingers to make money, but don't let a left-winger do it or it's somehow ironic or hypocritical.

What it actually is, is bullshit. Money is power, and the right expects the left to cripple itself at the start of the race.

well, Ben, I could be wrong but i think maybe the issue is that she has used her white privilege to gain a position of power wherein she charges shitloads of money to preach about white privilege

gelico wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

What I see is Al Gore all over again -- it's fine for right-wingers to make money, but don't let a left-winger do it or it's somehow ironic or hypocritical.

What it actually is, is bullshit. Money is power, and the right expects the left to cripple itself at the start of the race.

well, Ben, I could be wrong but i think maybe the issue is that she has used her white privilege to gain a position of power wherein she charges shitloads of money to preach about white privilege

Bingo, we have a winner

On Tuesday, January 15, radio host David Webb interviewed civil rights attorney and CNN analyst Areva Martin on his Sirius XM show. Towards the end of their exchange, Martin accused Webb of having white privilege. Confused, Webb asked Martin to explain how he had come to have this privilege. “By virtue of being a white male,” Martin informed him irritably, “you have white privilege.” To which Webb replied, “I hate to break it to you, but I’m black.”

https://quillette.com/2019/01/24/the-white-privilege-of-being-black/

Does anyone read links? Hahahahahahahaha

No. They do not, like I always said.

eddie wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:I think white privilege in America is real. Everybody knows American institutions have treated white people better than others for ages.

Last word: if “everyone knows” then “everyone must be aware” ergo where is the privilege....really? It’s outdated and old hat.

I’ll leave you guys to thrash it out. I’ve left a link. Y’all love an article.

It happens every day, so there's nothing old hat about it. Everyone knows it happens and it just keeps happening, because the fight isn't over.

Just because an advantage is obvious doesn't mean it doesn't exist, right? It's advantageous to be white in America, and that's what white privilege is.

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:


Then those certain institutions or some of the people who have worked in them, that are doing wrong

That is not white privilege, that is discrimination by them

Hence your view of white privilege fails to look at the problem and instead poorly and incorrectly looks to collectivelly blame white people for this

Its absurd and does nothing to tackle racism

White privilege is the state of being free from discrimination, because you're not the one the bigots hate.

But not all white people are free from discrimination. Far from it, hence the flawed nature of the claim

Are Jews now free from discrimination to you?

Again you are getting this all wrong. The problem is those who are prejudice

eddie wrote:

On Tuesday, January 15, radio host David Webb interviewed civil rights attorney and CNN analyst Areva Martin on his Sirius XM show. Towards the end of their exchange, Martin accused Webb of having white privilege. Confused, Webb asked Martin to explain how he had come to have this privilege. “By virtue of being a white male,” Martin informed him irritably, “you have white privilege.” To which Webb replied, “I hate to break it to you, but I’m black.”

https://quillette.com/2019/01/24/the-white-privilege-of-being-black/

Does anyone read links? Hahahahahahahaha

No. They do not, like I always said.

Yeah that has to go down as one of the best fucks someone made over the airways

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:


Then those certain institutions or some of the people who have worked in them, that are doing wrong

That is not white privilege, that is discrimination by them

Hence your view of white privilege fails to look at the problem and instead poorly and incorrectly looks to collectivelly blame white people for this

Its absurd and does nothing to tackle racism

White privilege is the state of being free from discrimination, because you're not the one the bigots hate.

But not all white people are free from discrimination. Far from it, hence the flawed nature of the claim

Are Jews now free from discrimination to you?

Again you are getting this all wrong. The problem is those who are prejudice

Jews are targeted by a relatively small number of Jew-haters in America. Black people are systemically discriminated against by major American institutions -- finance, justice, education, employment.

No comparison.

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:


But not all white people are free from discrimination. Far from it, hence the flawed nature of the claim

Are Jews now free from discrimination to you?

Again you are getting this all wrong. The problem is those who are prejudice

Jews are targeted by a relatively small number of Jew-haters in America. Black people are systemically discriminated against by major American institutions -- finance, justice, education, employment.

No comparison.

Really? And there you have it, I show that some white people are dsciminated against showing up the flaw in this claim and Ben even worse tries to down play this. The same people who hate blacks that are white supremacists also hate Jews.

Again this is why your reasoning is so fucked up and warped

The problem is racism by people who are racist. Not the people who are not racist

This is what happens when you have a BIG LABEL.

IT BECOMES A BIG STATEMENT.

Old hat. Doesn’t happen as much anymore. We all know it.

Btw, did anyone read my links?

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:


But not all white people are free from discrimination. Far from it, hence the flawed nature of the claim

Are Jews now free from discrimination to you?

Again you are getting this all wrong. The problem is those who are prejudice

Jews are targeted by a relatively small number of Jew-haters in America. Black people are systemically discriminated against by major American institutions -- finance, justice, education, employment.

No comparison.

Really? And there you have it, I show that some white people are dsciminated against showing up the flaw in this claim and Ben even worse tries to down play this. The same people who hate blacks that are white supremacists also hate Jews.

Again this is why your reasoning is so fucked up and warped

The problem is racism by people who are racist. Not the people who are not racist

But then, you can’t wring your hands and make a big song and dance about it.


Did anyone read my lanks? Lanks because links are wank. No one reads them. That is why I rarely post them.

I’m done for now anyway. Good luck everyone!

eddie wrote:This is what happens when you have a BIG LABEL.

IT BECOMES A BIG STATEMENT.

Old hat. Doesn’t happen as much anymore. We all know it.

Btw, did anyone read my links?

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:


But not all white people are free from discrimination. Far from it, hence the flawed nature of the claim

Are Jews now free from discrimination to you?

Again you are getting this all wrong. The problem is those who are prejudice

Jews are targeted by a relatively small number of Jew-haters in America. Black people are systemically discriminated against by major American institutions -- finance, justice, education, employment.

No comparison.

Really? And there you have it, I show that some white people are dsciminated against showing up the flaw in this claim and Ben even worse tries to down play this. The same people who hate blacks that are white supremacists also hate Jews.

Again this is why your reasoning is so fucked up and warped

The problem is racism by people who are racist. Not the people who are not racist

And the concept of white privilege in no way blames non-racist white people for anything.

Like I said above, some people just don't like the term, because it tells the truth -- that in America, being born white is a privilege.

A privilege is an advantage you didn't work for, right? Nobody worked to be born whatever color they were born.

But American society rewards people for being white with more jobs, more money, lower prison sentences for the same crime, more bank loans even if you have the same credit score as a black person.

That's an unearned advantage, aka a privilege. There's no waffling around this basic fact.

eddie wrote:This is what happens when you have a BIG LABEL.

IT BECOMES A BIG STATEMENT.

Old hat. Doesn’t happen as much anymore. We all know it.

Btw, did anyone read my links?

Have started to read it Eddie

Bored trying to reason with Ben on this. People suffere prejudice in many forms. I mean what next?
Good eyesight privilege? Where people with glasses can be bullied?
How about Brown, blonde, black hair privilege? Where ginger heads are bullied
That non-Jews are privileged, as they do not suffer antisemitism
Its simple an absurd concept which nobody would apply to any other aspect of prejudice. The reality is many people suffer prejudice, no matter their race, sex, sexuality etc

Anyway have things to do

All the best

I think it’s basically a need for people to feel nice and fair and good.

It was a problem once, now...not so much, but it keeps people guilty and.....well....

Nothing more to add really. I don’t need care to bow to labels put out by groups of people.

I really think the big problem is that people don't understand what white privilege means.

They think it's about blaming people or labeling people -- it's not.

It's about a phenomenon in America where having white skin makes it easier to get by in life, in so many ways, big and small. Where being white becomes an advantage you didn't earn; you were just lucky to get.

Being born into wealth is a privilege that makes life easier, in general, and that wasn't earned. We all know this. In America, being white is similar to that.

That's all.

eddie wrote:I think it’s basically a need for people to feel nice and fair and good.

It was a problem once, now...not so much, but it keeps people guilty and.....well....

Nothing more to add really. I don’t need care to bow to labels put out by groups of people.

No worries Eddie, like I say the concept is complete garbage based around identity politics, which as seen does more harm than good. It fails to bring society together but creates more and more divides within that society. Having white skin does not mean you will automatically get by in life. That is simple horseshit of the highest order. Its also very insulting to the ones who do struggle and suffer hardship. Basically what ben is saying is their hardship is of less importance to those who are black and suffer hardship. When both are suffering hardship, in need of support and help. This is why the concept is so divisive.

Anyway night

eddie wrote:This is what happens when you have a BIG LABEL.

IT BECOMES A BIG STATEMENT.

Old hat. Doesn’t happen as much anymore. We all know it.

Btw, did anyone read my links?

i read the quillette one.

i'd seen that one anyway

lol what an epic fail that was

also people should be asked to explain their soundbites as to what they actually mean, and then to justify it