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Post by Guest Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:10 pm



https://www.newsweek.com/mini-aoc-twitter-pulled-mocking-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-1447506

I mean people rightly mock Trump all the time, in fact Saturday night live do a running comedy sketch each week. Yet the Far left are so angered, they target a little girl who in fact is really funny. Its time people started speaking out against the far left

Here she is taking the mick out of Ocasio-Cortez. Which is apt because Ocasio-Cortez. was caught out crying over an empty car park




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Post by Original Quill Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:48 pm

It's all in the game. If Russia didn't prove that, ask Russo. He works for the IRA in St. Petersburg.

If you enter the ring, you gotta be willing to take what comes.

Seems pretty funny to me.

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Original Quill wrote:It's all in the game.  If Russia didn't prove that, ask Russo.  He works for the IRA in St. Petersburg.

If you enter the ring, you gotta be willing to take what comes.

Seems pretty funny to me.

Take what it comes?

If this had of happened to the stars of staurday night lives, would yo be saying the same, when they rightly mock trump?

When this is an 8 year old girl?

Either you back satire and comedy, or you think its okay for people to commit violence against comedians?

Its Charlie Hebdo all over again. As should an 8 year old girl live in fear her life is forfiet to such extremists? Simple because you took the mick, as people already do, out of politicians?

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Post by 'Wolfie Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:55 am

Basketball

If the silly little smartarse snowflake whiner thinks she's big enough to play grownup political games on social media...

Then she should be big enough and tough enough to wear any retorts and comebacks that her right wing politicking brings her way..

Sounds more like a right-wing propaganda beatup, rather than anything to do with some mythical "leftists".

Especially considering that the Democrats still remain a centre-right party, despite their growing left-wing influence slowly dragging them back across to the middle ground..
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:21 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Basketball

If the silly little smartarse snowflake whiner thinks she's big enough to play grownup political games on social media...

Then she should be big enough and tough enough to wear any retorts and comebacks that her right wing politicking brings her way..

Sounds more like a right-wing propaganda beatup, rather than anything to do with some mythical "leftists".

Especially considering that the Democrats still remain a centre-right party, despite their growing left-wing influence slowly dragging them back across to the middle ground..


And the apologist of left wing extremist views, strikes again

Now attacking an 8 year old girl

Howq big of Wolf, I guess, this is what bullies do, thinking they can punch down, as in the adult world, they certainly cannot punch at all

Like I said the left rightly take the mick out of Trump all the time

No girl and her family should receive death threats for doing the same to anoth politician

Eiether you support satire and comedy, or as seen you defend extremist commnunist stalinist scum, who can only get their satisfation from beating up on litlle girls

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Post by Original Quill Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:57 am

phildidge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:It's all in the game.  If Russia didn't prove that, ask Russo.  He works for the IRA in St. Petersburg.

If you enter the ring, you gotta be willing to take what comes.

Seems pretty funny to me.

Take what it comes?

If this had of happened to the stars of staurday night lives, would yo be saying the same, when they rightly mock trump?

When this is an 8 year old girl?

Either you back satire and comedy, or you think its okay for people to commit violence against comedians?

Its Charlie Hebdo all over again. As should an 8 year old girl live in fear her life is forfiet to such extremists? Simple because you took the mick, as people already do, out of politicians?

Maybe she's a precocious child.  Her mother should be proud of her, carrying on and so young.  Like Coco Gauff, she can be whatever she wants to be.

You go girl!

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Post by 'Wolfie Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:14 am

Smile

Where's the actual evidence that those nasty ratbags attacking that girl are in fact "lefties"/left wingers/far left ???

Here we only have these spurious claims from one right-wing Repub' propaganda machine vlog-site -- for any of us know, those attacks could be coming from anonymous apolitical anarchist stirrers, or even from another rabid far-right faction..

Any time I hear any of those American-centric far-right political sites screaming "lefty/extreme left/socialist/commie", I have a second look at where those whining Repib' snowflakes themselves are coming from -- as they are often grossly misrepresenting those groups they're attacking.
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Post by Original Quill Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:45 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Smile

Where's the actual evidence that those nasty ratbags attacking that girl are in fact "lefties"/left wingers/far left  ???

Here we only have these spurious claims from one right-wing  Repub' propaganda machine vlog-site  --  for any of us know, those attacks could be coming from anonymous apolitical anarchist stirrers,  or even from another rabid far-right faction..

Any time I hear any of those American-centric far-right political sites screaming "lefty/extreme left/socialist/commie", I have a second look at where those whining Repib' snowflakes themselves are coming from --  as they are often grossly misrepresenting those groups they're attacking.

S'probably an 'alternate fact'...

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:31 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Smile

Where's the actual evidence that those nasty ratbags attacking that girl are in fact "lefties"/left wingers/far left  ???

Here we only have these spurious claims from one right-wing  Repub' propaganda machine vlog-site  --  for any of us know, those attacks could be coming from anonymous apolitical anarchist stirrers,  or even from another rabid far-right faction..

Any time I hear any of those American-centric far-right political sites screaming "lefty/extreme left/socialist/commie", I have a second look at where those whining Repib' snowflakes themselves are coming from --  as they are often grossly misrepresenting those groups they're attacking.

So you are claiming the family is lying after having to shut all their social media accounts down>??

The evidence is coming from the family and no surpise that you dont believe them, when I see on twitter every day the far left make countless threats.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7212723/Eight-year-old-Mini-AOC-child-actor-forced-quit-social-media-receiving-death-threats.html

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:59 pm

She's too young to be doing that kind of thing. Her parents should have stopped her before.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:06 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:She's too young to be doing that kind of thing. Her parents should have stopped her before.

For being funny>?? And making people laugh?

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:09 pm

phildidge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:She's too young to be doing that kind of thing. Her parents should have stopped her before.

For being funny>?? And making people laugh?

For being out there on the internet, mocking a politician. Then again, I don't think any kid should be posting stuff on the internet, let alone stuff about themselves.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:15 pm

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phildidge wrote:

For being funny>?? And making people laugh?

For being out there on the internet, mocking a politician. Then again, I don't think any kid should be posting stuff on the internet, let alone stuff about themselves.

So you think politicians should be protected from satire and comedy?

You miss the whole point here, that an 8 year old received death threats simple for satire

Sorry, nobody should bow down to blasphemy morality

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:17 pm

phildidge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

For being out there on the internet, mocking a politician. Then again, I don't think any kid should be posting stuff on the internet, let alone stuff about themselves.

So you think politicians should be protected from satire and comedy?

You miss the whole point here, that an 8 year old received death threats simple for satire

Sorry, nobody should bow down to blasphemy morality

I doubt the politicians care about that sort of thing.

She's a kid. There are people out there who will threaten anyone - it's just how it is. Adults are old enough to understand that and handle it - she's not.
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:22 pm

No way should the parents facilitate this girl's YouTube exploits, and let's face it -- they do facilitate them, they're not just letting her do it, because an 8-year-old can't run a YouTube channel.

Of course, it's beyond reprehensible to dox her and send her death threats. Those people are scum.

And let's not make this into a thing only the left does, for Pete's sake -- all the Parkland shooting survivors who have spoken out have been doxed and threatened, and they're not that much older than this girl.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:23 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
phildidge wrote:

So you think politicians should be protected from satire and comedy?

You miss the whole point here, that an 8 year old received death threats simple for satire

Sorry, nobody should bow down to blasphemy morality

I doubt the politicians care about that sort of thing.

She's a kid. There are people out there who will threaten anyone - it's just how it is. Adults are old enough to understand that and handle it - she's not.

She is also handling it very well and its more the parents simple concerned for her safety, as they have been getting personal death threats over the phone. Nobody should ever bow down to threats, but speak louder through comedy. The ilsmaists have trieds this many time, take Charlie Hebdo.

YIts about standing up to those with extreme views and to not tolerant such hate

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:25 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:No way should the parents facilitate this girl's YouTube exploits, and let's face it -- they do facilitate them, they're not just letting her do it, because an 8-year-old can't run a YouTube channel.

Of course, it's beyond reprehensible to dox her and send her death threats. Those people are scum.

And let's not make this into a thing only the left does, for Pete's sake -- all the Parkland shooting survivors who have spoken out have been doxed and threatened, and they're not that much older than this girl.

So you are against any child stars and that they should be banned from film, music, TV and now social media?

She loves all this, so who are you to say, what is right here?


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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:26 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:No way should the parents facilitate this girl's YouTube exploits, and let's face it -- they do facilitate them, they're not just letting her do it, because an 8-year-old can't run a YouTube channel.

Of course, it's beyond reprehensible to dox her and send her death threats. Those people are scum.

And let's not make this into a thing only the left does, for Pete's sake -- all the Parkland shooting survivors who have spoken out have been doxed and threatened, and they're not that much older than this girl.

Exactly. It doesn't matter if it's a "right" or "left" thing. There are trolls out there, and nothing is going to change that - it's the downside of the internet. She could be playing with a kitten, and someone would troll her.
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:27 pm

phildidge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I doubt the politicians care about that sort of thing.

She's a kid. There are people out there who will threaten anyone - it's just how it is. Adults are old enough to understand that and handle it - she's not.

She is also handling it very well and its more the parents simple concerned for her safety, as they have been getting personal death threats over the phone. Nobody should ever bow down to threats, but speak louder through comedy. The ilsmaists have trieds this many time, take Charlie Hebdo.

YIts about standing up to those with extreme views and to not tolerant such hate

So you disapprove of them taking down the channel and videos then?
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:28 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:No way should the parents facilitate this girl's YouTube exploits, and let's face it -- they do facilitate them, they're not just letting her do it, because an 8-year-old can't run a YouTube channel.

Of course, it's beyond reprehensible to dox her and send her death threats. Those people are scum.

And let's not make this into a thing only the left does, for Pete's sake -- all the Parkland shooting survivors who have spoken out have been doxed and threatened, and they're not that much older than this girl.

Exactly. It doesn't matter if it's a "right" or "left" thing. There are trolls out there, and nothing is going to change that - it's the downside of the internet. She could be playing with a kitten, and someone would troll her.

No, she is using her time to become a star Which she has become one, where again this is satire, which Ben is more concerned as one of his religious socialists is being ripped apart. In the most hilarious way.

Yert again people trying to force what kids can and cannoit do,.based on their own morality

I wonder if both of you are against Drag queen kids?

Its all the rave at the moment

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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:29 pm

phildidge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:No way should the parents facilitate this girl's YouTube exploits, and let's face it -- they do facilitate them, they're not just letting her do it, because an 8-year-old can't run a YouTube channel.

Of course, it's beyond reprehensible to dox her and send her death threats. Those people are scum.

And let's not make this into a thing only the left does, for Pete's sake -- all the Parkland shooting survivors who have spoken out have been doxed and threatened, and they're not that much older than this girl.

So you are against any child stars and that they should be banned from film, music, TV and now social media?

She loves all this, so who are you to say, what is right here?


Where did I say I was against ANY child star? Politics is too fraught for a kid.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:30 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
phildidge wrote:

She is also handling it very well and its more the parents simple concerned for her safety, as they have been getting personal death threats over the phone. Nobody should ever bow down to threats, but speak louder through comedy. The ilsmaists have trieds this many time, take Charlie Hebdo.

YIts about standing up to those with extreme views and to not tolerant such hate

So you disapprove of them taking down the channel and videos then?

I would love for them to keep them up, but their identity and address has been compremised and hence the parents are being safe here first.
They should start up again in the future and not bow down to threats. So yes I disaprove, but can understand them having saftey concerns

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:31 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
phildidge wrote:

So you are against any child stars and that they should be banned from film, music, TV and now social media?

She loves all this, so who are you to say, what is right here?


Where did I say I was against ANY child star? Politics is too fraught for a kid.

THIS IS SATIRE, NOT POLITICS

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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:32 pm

phildidge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
phildidge wrote:

So you are against any child stars and that they should be banned from film, music, TV and now social media?

She loves all this, so who are you to say, what is right here?


Where did I say I was against ANY child star? Politics is too fraught for a kid.

THIS IS SATIRE, NOT POLITICS

iDIOT

How in the world is satirizing a politician not politics?
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:33 pm

Guess Ben will want to ban this kid as he is to hilariously offensive



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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:35 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
phildidge wrote:

THIS IS SATIRE, NOT POLITICS

iDIOT

How in the world is satirizing a politician not politics?

So now Ben thinks Saturday Night live is now political and not satire, comedy, where they take the micky out of all politicians.

Seriously, fuck off

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:35 pm

phildidge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Exactly. It doesn't matter if it's a "right" or "left" thing. There are trolls out there, and nothing is going to change that - it's the downside of the internet. She could be playing with a kitten, and someone would troll her.

No, she is using her time to become a star Which she has become one, where again this is satire, which Ben is more concerned as one of his religious socialists is being ripped apart. In the most hilarious way.

Yert again people trying to force what kids can and cannoit do,.based on their own morality

I wonder if both of you are against Drag queen kids?

Its all the rave at the moment

If she wants to be a star, she'd do better to be original rather than try to copy someone else and mock them - and stay off the internet.
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:38 pm

phildidge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
phildidge wrote:

THIS IS SATIRE, NOT POLITICS

iDIOT

How in the world is satirizing a politician not politics?

So now Ben thinks Saturday Night live is now political and not satire, comedy, where they take the micky out of all politicians.

Seriously, fuck off

No, I think their political content is political, and the rest is comedy or satire Razz

Don't know how you can satirize political figures and claim you're work isn't political.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:38 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
phildidge wrote:

No, she is using her time to become a star Which she has become one, where again this is satire, which Ben is more concerned as one of his religious socialists is being ripped apart. In the most hilarious way.

Yert again people trying to force what kids can and cannoit do,.based on their own morality

I wonder if both of you are against Drag queen kids?

Its all the rave at the moment

If she wants to be a star, she'd do better to be original rather than try to copy someone else and mock them - and stay off the internet.

Well many think its a hilarious and rightly so. She is a comedy star in the making and at such a young age

I think people need to understand politicians are human as well and like everyone else oipn to piss take through comedy

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:39 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
phildidge wrote:

So now Ben thinks Saturday Night live is now political and not satire, comedy, where they take the micky out of all politicians.

Seriously, fuck off

No, I think their political content is political, and the rest is comedy or satire Razz

Don't know how you can satirize political figures and claim you're work isn't political.

Really so impersonations, is not a comedy act

No surprise the disciple of Cortez, jumps into defend his messiah, ha ha  Laughing

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Post by eddie Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:40 pm

She has a right to say what the fuck she likes.
Last time I looked, free speech was still welcomed.

It’s the people who got angry that are at fault.
End of ffs!
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:42 pm

eddie wrote:She has a right to say what the fuck she likes.
Last time I looked, free speech was still welcomed.

It’s the people who got angry that are at fault.
End of ffs!

cheers

At last somebody gets the point

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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:44 pm

phildidge wrote:
eddie wrote:She has a right to say what the fuck she likes.
Last time I looked, free speech was still welcomed.

It’s the people who got angry that are at fault.
End of ffs!

cheers

At last somebody gets the point

Have a thanks eddie

Do either of you think that this 8-year-old girl is studying AOC and satirizing her political positions on her own? Seriously?

Her parents got her into this, and shame on them. No child deserves doxing and death threats.
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:46 pm

eddie wrote:She has a right to say what the fuck she likes.
Last time I looked, free speech was still welcomed.

It’s the people who got angry that are at fault.
End of ffs!

Of course she can, but then other people can also say what they like - right? It's not a question of who's at fault, it's a question of getting out of the kitchen if you can't stand the heat. Her parents can't stand the heat.
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Post by eddie Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:47 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
phildidge wrote:
eddie wrote:She has a right to say what the fuck she likes.
Last time I looked, free speech was still welcomed.

It’s the people who got angry that are at fault.
End of ffs!

cheers

At last somebody gets the point

Have a thanks eddie

Do either of you think that this 8-year-old girl is studying AOC and satirizing her political positions on her own? Seriously?

Her parents got her into this, and shame on them. No child deserves doxing and death threats.

So? Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn’t.
Perhaps she showed an interest? What does it matter and at what age is one allowed to seem to be an independent thinker...12, 16, 18...?
Does free speech only start when someone is a certain age?

No child deserves doxing and death threats and no child deserves not to be heard or to have people assume she’s been browbeaten into something by her parents either.
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:48 pm

The staff at Charlie Hebdo said and did what they liked, and they ended up dead. That's how it is these days - probably not as extreme as that, but the world is full of people taking offence, nutters, and internet trolls.
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Post by eddie Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:49 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:She has a right to say what the fuck she likes.
Last time I looked, free speech was still welcomed.

It’s the people who got angry that are at fault.
End of ffs!

Of course she can, but then other people can also say what they like - right? It's not a question of who's at fault, it's a question of getting out of the kitchen if you can't stand the heat. Her parents can't stand the heat.

Yep people have a right to reply. I never said they didn’t. I think assuming a child isn’t capable of intelligent though is dumb.
I think people who send death threats over someone’s political beliefs are beyond dumb.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:49 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
phildidge wrote:

cheers

At last somebody gets the point

Have a thanks eddie

Do either of you think that this 8-year-old girl is studying AOC and satirizing her political positions on her own? Seriously?

Her parents got her into this, and shame on them. No child deserves doxing and death threats.


So her parents encouraged her, which is what most parents do, when they realise that their child can pull off a funny impression

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with that and if Cortez, had a sense of humour, she would see the funny side of this

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Post by eddie Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:57 pm

phildidge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
phildidge wrote:

cheers

At last somebody gets the point

Have a thanks eddie

Do either of you think that this 8-year-old girl is studying AOC and satirizing her political positions on her own? Seriously?

Her parents got her into this, and shame on them. No child deserves doxing and death threats.


So her parents encouraged her, which is what most parents do, when they realise that their child can pull off a funny impression

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with that and if Cortez, had a sense of humour, she would see the funny side of this

I totally agree. Perhaps she’s really interested in politics. Who knows? Humour is humour and I see nothing wrong with what she did.
I hope she tells the idiots to fuck off.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:03 pm

eddie wrote:
phildidge wrote:


So her parents encouraged her, which is what most parents do, when they realise that their child can pull off a funny impression

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with that and if Cortez, had a sense of humour, she would see the funny side of this

I totally agree. Perhaps she’s really interested in politics. Who knows? Humour is humour and I see nothing wrong with what she did.
I hope she tells the idiots to fuck off.  


This is what I do not grasp. Many impressionists started at very young ages and were clearly encouraged by their parents as its funny. She clearly looks like Cortez. So what is the harm?
Its a little girl having fun and you are right. What is wrong if she is taking an interest in politics?
Greta Thunberg has managed to encourage children world wide to make a stand against climate change. Does Ben think those 8 years and younger should not be politically interested in their future?

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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:10 pm

I see where you two are coming from. Of course she has a right to her own opinions and to speak freely; that's not really what bothers me.

I think her parents should have realized that she could end up the target of this kind of harassment and steered her away from doing a YouTube channel.

I'd hate to think of trying to explain to my stepdaughter why some people are saying they want her to die.

That's all. I would try to prevent her from being in that position at the age of 8.
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Post by eddie Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:13 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:I see where you two are coming from. Of course she has a right to her own opinions and to speak freely; that's not really what bothers me.

I think her parents should have realized that she could end up the target of this kind of harassment and steered her away from doing a YouTube channel.

I'd hate to think of trying to explain to my stepdaughter why some people are saying they want her to die.

That's all. I would try to prevent her from being in that position at the age of 8.

I wouldn’t. It’s their fault not the girl’s fault. Your post is saying “Don’t do that because people may bully you” instead of “Do it...and tell the bullies to fuck off”

Never succumb and cater to the dumb . That’s my opinion.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:16 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:I see where you two are coming from. Of course she has a right to her own opinions and to speak freely; that's not really what bothers me.

I think her parents should have realized that she could end up the target of this kind of harassment and steered her away from doing a YouTube channel.

I'd hate to think of trying to explain to my stepdaughter why some people are saying they want her to die.

That's all. I would try to prevent her from being in that position at the age of 8.

Seriously? Read the article and they did explain and that again should not be a reason to deter people

Its the whole view point yet again that we should not upset people in case it leads to violence.

Sorry that approach is wrong and is bowing down to people who make said threats.

Stop making poor apologist arguments Ben

Its like how the media was too afraid to publish cartoons of Muhammad. In case some Muslims got upset.

Christopher hitchins sums this up best




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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:17 pm

eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:I see where you two are coming from. Of course she has a right to her own opinions and to speak freely; that's not really what bothers me.

I think her parents should have realized that she could end up the target of this kind of harassment and steered her away from doing a YouTube channel.

I'd hate to think of trying to explain to my stepdaughter why some people are saying they want her to die.

That's all. I would try to prevent her from being in that position at the age of 8.

I wouldn’t. It’s their fault not the girl’s fault. Your post is saying “Don’t do that because people may bully you” instead of “Do it...and tell the bullies to fuck off”

Never succumb and cater to the dumb . That’s my opinion.

Plus a billion and hit the nail on the head


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Post by JulesV Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:19 pm

Didge, I'm going to be blunt, just to save time - I think your extreme obsession with ''the left'' ruins this forum.

You've made literally hundreds of threads with the words left , left wing , or leftist leftists in the title. A quick search easily confirms this.



I could cope better with your obsessive fixation if you were a quietish sort, but you are not.

You are prolific, you loom large and have an overbearing presence on here.

Maybe you could tone it down instead of being so annoyingly self indulgent???


I have said before that this site ticks a lot of boxes for me and that's why I visit it & participate.

Your crazy fixation with leftwing unticks a very big box. Pity really.



You drone on & on about antifada - as if they are the norm, among leftwingers. No they are not, they are an extreme fringe element and you cannot use extreme example to stereotype all LWers. ABSURD!!   When you start droning on, the people who dislike lefties get on the case and start making offensive sneering remarks.  Whish makes the atmosphere worse.


Btw I know next to nothing about intafada - apart from the fact that they believe in violence - and that puts me off  them, completely. In ancient eras violence has been very useful in the past across the entire politcal spectrum (not just LW) and produced very useful seachanges which benefit everyone today.   But in  these modern days every change should be conducted via the ballot box. There is no excuse for VIOLENCE.

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Post by JulesV Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:21 pm

Yes I went off topic there.
When I return late tonight, I will make an ontopic post.

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Post by eddie Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:25 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:The staff at Charlie Hebdo said and did what they liked, and they ended up dead. That's how it is these days - probably not as extreme as that, but the world is full of people taking offence, nutters, and internet trolls.

Ah. So stay quiet because people may not like what you say?
Cater to the nutters and extremist violent nutters...hmmmm. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:28 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:The staff at Charlie Hebdo said and did what they liked, and they ended up dead. That's how it is these days - probably not as extreme as that, but the world is full of people taking offence, nutters, and internet trolls.

Ah. So stay quiet because people may not like what you say?
Cater to the nutters and extremist violent nutters...hmmmm. Rolling Eyes

Oh well, if you want to be shot, that's up to you.

Those staff knew they were pissing people off - mockery generally does piss someone off somewhere. They took a risk, and they died.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:29 pm

Jules wrote:Didge, I'm going to be blunt, just to save time - I think your extreme obsession with ''the left'' ruins this forum.

You've made literally hundreds of threads with the words left , left wing , or leftist leftists in the title. A quick search easily confirms this.



Which shows you never read a thing I am saying.

My views are on the far left. So how about you actually start reading what I say and not wrongly as seen abopve get it wrong

What concerns me with the left and we saw this recently they made excuses when antifa, beat up people simple because they hold views different to them. You may not understand history, but we have seen this before.

Fascism rose because of this menatlity before. The Battle of cable Street is a hailed as a great defeat of fascism, when in fact it instead caused a rise in violence against Jews and a rise in support of fascism. Its how the Brownshirts through Hitler came to cast themselves as victims and won support. Antifa, is no different to the Far right. They are Marxist, intolerant and authoritarian. Little serpates them from the Far right and the more antifa simple beats up people for no reason. They inadvertantly gain support for the Far right

So maybe before you jump in with some rea#;lly poor views, not even understanding how I really know and understand history better than many here. In how I see the same rise of facism and the left are making this happen, through identity politics. That just maybe you might want to starty listening to me 

It seems only people liberal and I mean truely liberal. As Antifa is illiberal and so is the Far right illiberal. See and understand what is going on

Now if you take offense at me seeing the core problems and take offense becausde you are left. Sorry, that is your own problem. My aims are to prevent a future war, which is clearly edging closer to happening because people alike yourself are simple naive to the signs


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Post by Guest Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:30 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Ah. So stay quiet because people may not like what you say?
Cater to the nutters and extremist violent nutters...hmmmm. Rolling Eyes

Oh well, if you want to be shot, that's up to you.

Those staff knew they were pissing people off - mockery generally does piss someone off somewhere. They took a risk, and they died.

We all are a target already to extremists. Has this stopped you living your life?

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